1src Forums - ZL No War Skin

Banshee

03-28-2003, 02:53 AM

There's a nice skin over at the french site Palmspirit called ZL_No_War. Very simple, but looks nice on my NX...

It's at http://www.palmspirit.com/phpmalogitheque/description.php3?id=490

davidrgeorge

03-28-2003, 05:10 AM

I'm sorry, it took me a couple seconds, but then I saw the connection between this so-called NO WAR thing being located on a FRENCH website.

It's sad and selfish. Some people just don't appreciate the freedoms their forefathers died for. Very characteristic of the french though.

pigburger

03-28-2003, 06:38 AM

I agree with you Dave. Peace, what sick, pathetic coward would want that?

Mr Sheen

03-28-2003, 06:43 AM

French crap

Sheen

It was a silly skin deep reaction, should have waited before posting. (March 30)

pigburger

03-28-2003, 07:01 AM

Awful lot of animosity towards our oldest ally, after all, before there was Normandy, there was the American Revolution.

ndokiman

03-28-2003, 07:02 AM

What is wrong with you people?! It's a picture of a dove - a peace symbol. And that's "french crap"?

How sad...

Narniahopper

03-28-2003, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by pigburger
Awful lot of animosity towards our oldest ally, after all, before there was Normandy, there was the American Revolution.

They've had a big turnover in management since then.

Beavis

03-28-2003, 07:31 AM

Don't knock the French People. They fought valiantly in WWII......For 10 seconds.

hogs

03-28-2003, 09:09 AM

if you do not like it, nobody force you to download it.
Everybody should be free to express his opinion without being judged ...

rhart00

03-28-2003, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by Beavis
Don't knock the French People. They fought valiantly in WWII......For 10 seconds.

lol

tsuribito

03-28-2003, 10:03 AM

Nice Skin *downloading*

If you like war so much, why are you not in "somecountryyouneverheardofbefore" and fight a war.

Mankind must set an end to war, before war sets an end to mankind.

Banshee

03-28-2003, 01:00 PM

Er...

whatever your opinions on the current conflict, I hope most of us want a speedy resolution, and a return to peace? No?

I just like the skin is all; I didn't think posting it would get political...:o

Tixx

03-28-2003, 01:50 PM

Peace:)

davidrgeorge

03-28-2003, 01:56 PM

Believe me I want peace too, but I support the current war effort in Iraq to oust humaritarian criminals like Saddam (and his sons) out of power. You will never have peace in a world that allows leaders like them to remain in power. He has had plenty of time to get his act together.

You can only send a child to 'time-out' so many times, then you must take matters further.

LaStigmata

03-28-2003, 02:01 PM

Uhm..............Hello...........................Clie Site.............................not a war site..........................................lets try to keep it that way.

Please?

LSAlford

03-28-2003, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by hogs
if you do not like it, nobody force you to download it.
Everybody should be free to express his opinion without being judged ...

 

"Everybody should be free to express his opinion"  ABSOLUTELY!

"...without being judged" ABSOLUTELY A LOAD OF CRAP!

hogs

03-28-2003, 03:38 PM

I've better to do than reading this thread... as you mention so clearly, it's a load of crap

OcellNuri

03-28-2003, 04:02 PM

Despite your views on the war, it is a very nice looking skin! I'd love to see more skins that go in this direction. So elegant :D

I don't see any reason to attack someone because they make something with a message behind it. I wish more people would put meaning behind what they create. That's something we should all respect, whether we agree or not.

MarieC

03-29-2003, 09:02 AM

I'm very sad that a post concerning a skin might turn into an insult of other people's beliefs and ways of thinking.

Our thoughts are with the people that are suffering. Every time there is a war - people suffer.

I don't think it's a stupid thing to wish peace, and that there may be no war.

That was our thought with this skin. That's it.

hansschmucker

03-29-2003, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by Mr Sheen
French crap

Sheen

Freedom of speech is limited to the US I guess. Otherwise you wouldn't feel that way about Europeans, only because they have a different oppinion.

Still, it's a nice skin, and what has the fact that a Fench guy did it to do with that???

HazarD

03-29-2003, 09:25 AM

This skin is called "No War" and it is clearly not meant as an attack agains Americans. It just expresses a personal wish... therefore, I'm extremely disappointed to read such racist and insulting comments. When I posted this skin I had asked for no comments on this theme in order not to pollute the forum with political discussions. If I read such reactions again in the future I regret to say I will not post anymore on ClieSource. And BandiT's skins will stay on Palmspirit where they are appreciated for what they are, without any political sidekicks.

PS: LSAlford; davidrgeorge et Mr Sheen - thanks for your stupidity...

timw_de

03-29-2003, 09:27 AM

chill out
No War - remember
this is how they start .....

hansschmucker

03-29-2003, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by Beavis
Don't knock the French People. They fought valiantly in WWII......For 10 seconds.

I'm going to make one more political comment, then I will be quiet, I promise!

It's 2003 now, not 1942 anymore. Stop living in the past. Or do you still think all Germans are Nazis? About France. You weren't Nazi-Germany's neighbours, were you? You were safe on the other side of the Atlantic. So please don't try to compare what connot be compared. Bye

Tixx

03-29-2003, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by HazarD
This skin is called "No War" and it is clearly not meant as an attack agains Americans. It just expresses a personal wish... therefore, I'm extremely disappointed to read such racist and insulting comments. When I posted this skin I had asked for no comments on this theme in order not to pollute the forum with political discussions. If I read such reactions again in the future I regret to say I will not post anymore on ClieSource. And BandiT's skins will stay on Palmspirit where they are appreciated for what they are, without any political sidekicks.

PS: LSAlford; davidrgeorge et Mr Sheen - thanks for your stupidity...

Continue posting please as there are the progressive and open minded people here that do appreciate your work and talent. You've contributed much to this community, it would be a shame to lose you.:)

Mr Sheen

03-29-2003, 05:07 PM

My remark, which I should have kept to myself, was about the name not the skin.

Sheen

antonio.L

04-03-2003, 12:19 AM

This is a GREAT and well-timed skin.

No more war, no more dead children! Peace forever.

You guys don't imagine how awful it is to see whole cities full of fire and to know that few months ago there was normal life there!

GANZ

04-03-2003, 10:51 AM

First let me say that HazarD makes some of THE BEST skins available, I have several of them on my Clie, they are truly works of art. I also hope that this thread does not keep HazarD from posting here in the future.

Secondly, I think that coming to a site hosted in America and frequented by mostly Americans and posting a a theme called No War in a time of war where Americans are dieing is clearly asking for trouble.....especially if your country was the biggest opponent of said war. It doesn't make it right but the result should have been obvious.

Lastly, as Georg Christoph Lichtenberg said "Nothing is more conducive to peace of mind than not having any opinions at all."
So I am going to go back to minding my own business now with the hopes that people will stop discussing politics on a PDA message board.

~Regards

Banshee

04-03-2003, 02:56 PM

HazarD, BandiT et Marie,

Je m'excuse si ce que j'ai fait a crée des problèmes. J'ai simplement trouvé ce skin vraiment beau (la construction et le sentiment), alors j'ai voulu le partager avec des gens ici. En futur, je vais reflechir deux fois avant de agir...

(Je m'excuse pour mon français écrit - ça fais long temps que je l'ai pas écrit!)

 

MarieC

04-03-2003, 05:38 PM

I'm just answering on my behalf (Hazard will certainly do it on his own)...

I think that coming to a site hosted in America and frequented by mostly Americans and posting a a theme called No War in a time of war where Americans are dieing is clearly asking for trouble.....especially if your country was the biggest opponent of said war. It doesn't make it right but the result should have been obvious. Well, since so many Americans like others are dying in this war, I think a skin called "No War", calling for the hope that this horrible thing might stop as soon as possible... well it's not asking for trouble, but expressing a sincere wish that the suffering might be over.

Secondly, it's not because a country's governments thinks and acts in a certain direction that all nationals of this country agree with it. In my case, I'm against any war because of the suffering involved - for all people: in this case, Americans, British, Iraquis, especially the civil population and the children.

Originally posted by Banshee
HazarD, BandiT et Marie,

Je m'excuse si ce que j'ai fait a crée des problèmes. J'ai simplement trouvé ce skin vraiment beau (la construction et le sentiment), alors j'ai voulu le partager avec des gens ici. En futur, je vais reflechir deux fois avant de agir...

(Je m'excuse pour mon français écrit - ça fais long temps que je l'ai pas écrit!)
Merci Steve ;) that's very kind of you.

Well, I really do hope you guys will all just enjoy the skins and backgrounds. Peace :D

GANZ

04-03-2003, 06:20 PM

I agree. I meant no offense with my comment......I myself am a lover not a fighter :cool:

Tixx

04-03-2003, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by MarieC
I'm just answering on my behalf (Hazard will certainly do it on his own)...

Well, since so many Americans like others are dying in this war, I think a skin called "No War", calling for the hope that this horrible thing might stop as soon as possible... well it's not asking for trouble, but expressing a sincere wish that the suffering might be over.

Secondly, it's not because a country's governments thinks and acts in a certain direction that all nationals of this country agree with it. In my case, I'm against any war because of the suffering involved - for all people: in this case, Americans, British, Iraquis, especially the civil population and the children.

Merci Steve ;) that's very kind of you.

Well, I really do hope you guys will all just enjoy the skins and backgrounds. Peace :D

What did Steve say:confused:

Peace:)

Burdie

04-03-2003, 08:05 PM

Tixx:

A rough translation of Steve's message: "I'm sorry if what I have done has created problems. I simply found this skin truly beautiful (the construction and the sentiment), thus I wanted to share it with the folks here. In the future I will think twice before doing so."

("Please excuse my written French - it is a long time since I wrote anything").

Perhaps I can add one other thought, given that tensions over the war are high. It may be just semantic, but perhaps calling the skin "Peace" (as opposed to "No War") might not have ruffled feathers? Just a thought.

Either way, HazarD, your work is excellent, and, like others, I hope that you will continue.

Burdie

Tixx

04-04-2003, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Burdie
Tixx:

A rough translation of Steve's message: "I'm sorry if what I have done has created problems. I simply found this skin truly beautiful (the construction and the sentiment), thus I wanted to share it with the folks here. In the future I will think twice before doing so."

("Please excuse my written French - it is a long time since I wrote anything").

Perhaps I can add one other thought, given that tensions over the war are high. It may be just semantic, but perhaps calling the skin "Peace" (as opposed to "No War") might not have ruffled feathers? Just a thought.

Either way, HazarD, your work is excellent, and, like others, I hope that you will continue.

Burdie

Thanks:)

Tixx

04-04-2003, 02:24 PM