Backing-up RAW files

[Reggie]

If you are an avid photographer and would like a backup device that supports RAW, just get this instead:

http://images.tigerdirect.com/skuimages/large/V290-1086.jpg

http://www.smartdisk.com/eWeb/smartdiskus/www/staticpages/FlashtraxXT.asp

[tonyreynolds]

If you are an avid photographer and would like a backup device that supports RAW, just get this instead:

http://images.tigerdirect.com/skuimages/large/V290-1086.jpg

http://www.smartdisk.com/eWeb/smartdiskus/www/staticpages/FlashtraxXT.asp

Reggie:

OT, how do you load images into the body of the post?

Tony

[tonyreynolds]

Forget it, I figured it out...

TR :rolleyes:

[Reggie]

OT:

Tony,

I'm still deciding if I should get the 40GB version. ;) I shoot all RAW using a Canon 20D. I would like to off-load CF's 2GB at a time to a backup device (you know how big those RAW files are). :D

[tonyreynolds]

OT:

Tony,

I'm still deciding if I should get the 40GB version. ;) I shoot all RAW using a Canon 20D. I would like to off-load CF's 2GB at a time to a backup device (you know how big those RAW files are). :D

It looks like the P2000 accepts Canon RAW files, but there is something regarding and 8MB limit on RAW file size, so perhaps it may not work for either of us. I think the KonicaMinolta DiMAGE A2 RAW files are 13-14MB. I would like to get into RAW. The after-the-fact control over the image parameters is amazing.

Tony

[tonyreynolds]

Drool...

http://www.epson.com/cmc_upload/0/000/054/485/R1800AngleCD_216x144.jpg

Epson R1800

:)

[Reggie]

It looks like the P2000 accepts Canon RAW files, but there is something regarding and 8MB limit on RAW file size, so perhaps it may not work for either of us. I think the KonicaMinolta DiMAGE A2 RAW files are 13-14MB. I would like to get into RAW. The after-the-fact control over the image parameters is amazing.

Tony


I never saw any RAW file on the 20D that's greater than 8MB. It's usually 7MB. I don't think it will have problems copying the 14MB files since it's a straight copy. Displaying them might be a problem though. But here's an FAQ on the product regarding RAW files:

Can FlashTrax XT display RAW format images on its LCD?

Yes, FlashTrax XT can display RAW format images from selected camera models from Canon (.CRW,.CR2), FujiFilm (.RAF), Minolta (.MRW + .THM), Nikon (.NEF), Olympus (.ORF), Sony (.SRF), Sigma (.X3F) and Pentax (.PEF). FlashTrax XT displays RAW files using the JPEG image embedded in most RAW files, so display time is quite fast. The resolution of the displayed RAW file (and therefore the extent of zooming possible) depends on the resolution of the JPEG information stored in the RAW file by the particular camera manufacturer.

I'm splitting this thread and move them to OT: Digital Cameras.

[Reggie]

Drool...

http://www.epson.com/cmc_upload/0/000/054/485/R1800AngleCD_216x144.jpg

Epson R1800

:)

This one is the one I like: hehe

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/WideFormat/WideFormatDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Overview&oid=-12801&category=Wide+Format+Printers

[tonyreynolds]

This one is the one I like: hehe

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/WideFormat/WideFormatDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Overview&oid=-12801&category=Wide+Format+Printers

I think I'd have to add an extra room on my house to fit that one in... :cool:

[SamuraiCatJB]

This one is the one I like: hehe

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/WideFormat/WideFormatDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Overview&oid=-12801&category=Wide+Format+Printers

hehehe, where'd you say you lived? ;) ;)

[Vidge]

If you are an avid photographer and would like a backup device that supports RAW, just get this instead:

http://images.tigerdirect.com/skuimages/large/V290-1086.jpg

http://www.smartdisk.com/eWeb/smartdiskus/www/staticpages/FlashtraxXT.asp

Thanks for the heads up on this. I ordered one last night :D

[tonyreynolds]

I never saw any RAW file on the 20D that's greater than 8MB. It's usually 7MB. I don't think it will have problems copying the 14MB files since it's a straight copy. Displaying them might be a problem though. But here's an FAQ on the product regarding RAW files:

My KM DiMAGE A2 MRW files are 11.8MB. I just checked...


:)

[Reggie]

Here's another from Epson:

http://www.epson.com/cmc_upload/0/000/051/004/P2000_216x144.jpg

Review from dpreview: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/epsonp2000/

[clicclic]

until they get rid of their stupid 8.3 file naming scheme i would seriously wait. When you upload any file with a name longer than 8 characters it gets truncated and replaced with a tilde ~


this seems to be the only thing holding back the epson. it can play some types of video but not all. another drawback but not as important.

[SamuraiCatJB]

until they get rid of their stupid 8.3 file naming scheme i would seriously wait. When you upload any file with a name longer than 8 characters it gets truncated and replaced with a tilde ~


this seems to be the only thing holding back the epson. it can play some types of video but not all. another drawback but not as important.

most cameras do the same, if you are using it as a photo-wallet while taking multiple sets of pictures with a single flash-card, this seems to work well. I use my iPod like that. Then when I get back the windows camera wizard allows me to copy all my card dumps to the computer and rename at the same time.

If you are thinking backup from camera to take more pictures, 8 char is fine, if you are thinking backup from your computer, probably not so fine as you pointed out.

[zackepceo]

Until you have more than 8^255 pictures, the 8+3 naming system isn't really a worry. :D

[tomlouie]

Until you have more than 8^255 pictures, the 8+3 naming system isn't really a worry. :D

Folders, my friend, folders. My camera dumps photos into different folders beyond a certain number, so the limit is much higher. :)

And as for shooting in RAW versus JPG, I can't imagine not using RAW. Highlight & shadow recovery, no worries about getting the right white balance at the time of the shot, and 16 bits of data. Woot.

Tom

[tonyreynolds]

Folders, my friend, folders. My camera dumps photos into different folders beyond a certain number, so the limit is much higher. :)

And as for shooting in RAW versus JPG, I can't imagine not using RAW. Highlight & shadow recovery, no worries about getting the right white balance at the time of the shot, and 16 bits of data. Woot.

Tom

I just returned from a week on Kaua'i. Of the nearly 600 images I shot, only a fraction of them were RAW. The reason?

RAW is USELESS for any situation where shot to shot speed is needed. The buffer of the A2 loads up after three images and then needs to process before another shot can be taken.

Examples???

1. Shooting dolphins from a rocking boat. RAW? Forget it! I need lotsa shots fast!

2. Handheld panoramas. Need 8 vertical shots for 180 degrees? Be prepared to wait after 3, then 6, etc.

For all of the vaunted advantages of camera RAW, I get by most of the time just fine with fine JPEG. YMMV... ;)

Tony

[Gizmo]

I just returned from a week on Kaua'i. Of the nearly 600 images I shot, only a fraction of them were RAW. The reason?

RAW is USELESS for any situation where shot to shot speed is needed. The buffer of the A2 loads up after three images and then needs to process before another shot can be taken.

Examples???

1. Shooting dolphins from a rocking boat. RAW? Forget it! I need lotsa shots fast!

2. Handheld panoramas. Need 8 vertical shots for 180 degrees? Be prepared to wait after 3, then 6, etc.

For all of the vaunted advantages of camera RAW, I get by most of the time just fine with fine JPEG. YMMV... ;)

Tony
Great examples Tony.

And here's another one. You shot 600 pictures on vacation. How would you like to have to sit in front of your computer and process each one of those?

RAW definitely has it's place, and I like using it for portraits and landscapes or other limited shooting situations. But I wouldn't recommend using it full time for those reasons mentioned above.

~Happy shooting. :)