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Sharkk717
05-05-2005, 06:05 AM
TH users: turn on/off your Palm using the Capture button like TheGoGo. Difference in speed: huge (you can see the difference with PalmInternals).
Now PowerCapture lets you use the Capture button normally in Clie Camera and Movie Rec, and lets you change the Power On/off button to: Hardkeys 1-4, Capture button, VR button on T3
http://www.ludustech.com/files/PowerCapture.prc
regards, sharky
jjesusfreak01
05-05-2005, 06:22 AM
about 1/4 of the time the device immediately turns back on after turning off, just to let you know
Sharkk717
05-05-2005, 06:25 AM
strange. it's only a few lines of very basic C so i don't see why it has reason to do this. even clicking it fast on my TH doesn't ever let thru errors.
regards, sharky
jjesusfreak01
05-05-2005, 07:05 AM
strange. it's only a few lines of very basic C so i don't see why it has reason to do this. even clicking it fast on my TH doesn't ever let thru errors.
regards, sharky
Maybe it only does this in certain programs?
blackcarrera
05-05-2005, 11:07 AM
Hey sharkboy, can you make so I can you use any one of the four hard buttons as well?
blackcarrera
05-05-2005, 11:09 AM
Clie launcher is another way I test for performance and I don't see any performance problems at all.
blackcarrera
05-05-2005, 12:13 PM
jjesusfreak01, what apps are you in when it turns on? My Clie doesn't turn on by it's self.
bh77a
05-05-2005, 01:54 PM
Does this work on TJ series as well, with its capture button?
Can it be mapped to one of the four hard buttons, such as it is in SharkButton? I love that app and would like to see it developed further...
Sharkk717
05-05-2005, 02:01 PM
i don't have a TJ series to test on, but you can try it. it certainly won't crash your system! as long as it turns out that the problem with JJF is unreproducable, i will continue to add some more things, that is:
1) capture button will function normally in Camera app
2) there will be a choice of buttons (capture, and hard buttons 1-4)
3) anything else?
regards, sharky
blackcarrera
05-05-2005, 02:13 PM
The ability to popup the on screen keyborad is pretty usefull when in landscape.
I did this with FlexButton. 3rd hard button poped up the on screen keyboard and the 4th hard button to turn the clie on and off.
These two things are really the only things I can think of right now.
simcity guy
05-05-2005, 03:40 PM
Hi Sharkboy717, when I read what this hack was all about, I inmediatly tough that I could use it with my Tugnsten T, whichs power button broke, but to my surprise, you can only use the capture button found in the TH, cauld you please release another version, where you could chose wich button to act as the power one? Or more conveniently, that used the Tungsten´s voice record button to simulate power button? I mean, to make that button to really act as a power button, as I´ve tried many apps that promise to do so, but they made you exit the app you were using when you turn it off.
Sorry if I´m too exigent.
And thanks for your other great apps, I´m a happy buyer of SharkROM.
winexprt
05-05-2005, 04:48 PM
TH users: turn on/off your Palm using the Power button like TheGoGo...
You lost me. I ALREADY turn on/off my TH55 using the Power Button.
:confused: :confused:
Sharkk717
05-05-2005, 04:51 PM
you got me winexprt lol! it's true, i made a typo. it's supposed to read (and now does): "TH users: turn on/off your Palm using the Capture button like TheGoGo..."
regards, sharky
winexprt
05-05-2005, 06:08 PM
LOL :D
Wow...that would indeed be a great feature sharky! My Power button really sticks sometimes...and we all know already is in a terribly akward place to use it with one hand.
I use the right-most button to turn mine off with Teallaunch
Teallaunch is one of the best apps ever (I migrated from EasyLaunch when I switched to OS 5 a couple of years ago)
filber
05-05-2005, 08:50 PM
I already use SharkButton to map the capture button as a power button. Is there any difference? Could the features you are putting into PowerCapture be written into SharkButton?
enderenya
05-06-2005, 02:37 AM
i don't have a TJ series to test on, but you can try it. it certainly won't crash your system! as long as it turns out that the problem with JJF is unreproducable, i will continue to add some more things, that is:
1) capture button will function normally in Camera app
...Make sure this includes Movie Recorder.
I'm excited for this! I've wanted a faster version of THeGOGO, so after this is implemented, I'll probably switch.
nanny
05-06-2005, 05:25 AM
Add on: Disable all other buttons when off?
LanMan
05-06-2005, 08:24 AM
:( My Capture button broke within a month while using TheGoGo to power-on my TH55. :mad:
JJF01
05-06-2005, 08:36 AM
:( My Capture button broke within a month while using TheGoGo to power-on my TH55. :mad:
I have been using it over six months w/ no problems. I worry more about breaking the power switch, as I have broken the power switch on another device.
Sharkk717
05-06-2005, 08:43 AM
so jjf... any problems with PowerCapture or did it seem to stop?
regards, sharky
JJF01
05-06-2005, 09:45 AM
so jjf... any problems with PowerCapture or did it seem to stop?
regards, sharky
It seems to work now, though holding the button down to long to turn it on will make it turn back off.
Sharkk717
05-06-2005, 09:48 AM
yeah, that's because the OS sends multiple key presses when you hold keys down for more than a sec. it would be pretty simple to ignore them. shall i add that to the next version?
regards, sharky
JJF01
05-06-2005, 10:06 AM
yeah, that's because the OS sends multiple key presses when you hold keys down for more than a sec. it would be pretty simple to ignore them. shall i add that to the next version?
regards, sharky
Yeah, that sounds good.
MrNako
05-06-2005, 05:08 PM
I have a request for you Sharky...
How about something like this screenshot I made
That this proggy could be launched by opening the lens cover, that way we could quickly (even with our fingers with those big buttons) chose what we want to do, take a picture or record a video.
Just an idea... :)
MrNako
http://www.1src.com/gallery/data/500/30634sharkcamera.PNG
jjesusfreak01
05-06-2005, 05:19 PM
Thats a good one MrNako. Maybe you could also make a YAHM hack so that you could configure which one was used by default. Now that I think of it, doesnt Movie Recorder have a button to go to the camera program. If it automatically launched MR, then it would be one button press to get to Clie Camera.
MrNako, did you ever finish the landscape versions of your winsb skins? I was kinda looking forward to them, and have resigned myself to using my landscaped default skins until you made yours.
MrNako
05-06-2005, 05:38 PM
MrNako, did you ever finish the landscape versions of your winsb skins? I was kinda looking forward to them, and have resigned myself to using my landscaped default skins until you made yours.
I did finish the status bars. Well the reverse landscape version is not complete. And also I did not upload them because I was having some problems with the battery indicator going from full to empty from right to left and I did not continue experimenting.
I also made the VGs.
Any clue of why this happens with the battery icon?
:confused:
jjesusfreak01
05-06-2005, 06:44 PM
I did finish the status bars. Well the reverse landscape version is not complete. And also I did not upload them because I was having some problems with the battery indicator going from full to empty from right to left and I did not continue experimenting.
I also made the VGs.
Any clue of why this happens with the battery icon?
:confused:
What are you using to compile the skins? There shouldnt be a problem as long as you put the right bitmaps in the right places. You may notice I didnt touch the battery in the skins I altered. Send me the source files, and I can compare them to the originals, and see what the problem may be. If you are using Festus' program, you really should not have this problem at all. Compare the bitmaps to the original bitmaps included in the skin creator. If Festus' program doesnt have them, Pruss' does.
Sharkk717
05-06-2005, 06:53 PM
Ahem... if i may bring the thread back on topic for just one sec... lol:
PowerCapture is updated. Here's the deal:
-Config screen lets you change Power button among: Hardkeys 1-4, Capture button, Voice Recorder on T3
-Lets the Capture button work as normal in CLIE Camera and Movie Recorder
enjoy!
link: http://www.ludustech.com/files/PowerCapture.prc
coming up: Lens Switch, a YAHM hack that lets you choose whether Movie Rec or CLIE Camera launch when you open the lens switch.
Sharkk717
05-06-2005, 06:58 PM
ps: enderenya, you now have no excuse not to switch from TheGoGo lol
regards, sharky
jjesusfreak01
05-06-2005, 07:03 PM
.....and dont forget,
SharkScanDA2, the new version allows you to scan for only new access points, and ignores ones only on the list. This makes scanning alot faster.
And if you thought that was cool, you havent seen SharkGraphics, the new program that makes cool graphics come up on your screen using the GE2D library on Sony Clies. For the user who has nothing to do, turn to SharkApps.
BTW, new version of sharkcapture works great.
Sharkk717
05-06-2005, 07:13 PM
jjf, i would write an awesomely sweet library for all game writers and personally submit SharkGE2D to Astraware myself, except that Mobile Stream hasn't sent me the files.
regards, sharky
blackcarrera
05-06-2005, 07:30 PM
Thanks allot shayboy, however there is one thing. The fourth button doesn't turn the clie on, it only turns it off. I don't know what it would take to get it to work but as for FlexButton it was enable by a soft reset when making the fourth button into a power button.
I do know that the fourth button doesn't have any power supplied to it when the clie is off and that is why it doesn't work at the moment. FlexButton was able to get power supplied to the fourth hard button after a reset.
On another note, everything else works great.
The convenience for me to use the fourth hard button was 1, I am used to it and 2, I have no other uses for it.
Sharkk717
05-06-2005, 07:32 PM
ok, i'll have to look into that. i believe there's a special tweak you have to do allow the 4th button to power on the TH.
regards, sharky
jjesusfreak01
05-06-2005, 08:12 PM
jjf, i would write an awesomely sweet library for all game writers and personally submit SharkGE2D to Astraware myself, except that Mobile Stream hasn't sent me the files.
regards, sharky
Check thine AOL account...
Note, dont be alarmed if Sharky mysteriously dissapears for the rest of the evening.
blackcarrera
05-07-2005, 12:10 AM
I found a bug, though I don't know if it's your hack because it seams to only happen in red-mercury products like AcidImage and AcidFreecell. With AcidImage it's when viewing a picture and sometimes when the thumbnails are being generated. with AcidFreecell it's when the game is passed the load screen and the symbols start to move across the screen.
The bug: it seams to ignore the power off code and instead launch the app that is designated to the selected button.
I went back to the first version of power capture and it worked just fine and AI didn’t ignore the off code.
Address book was launched with hard button 1 even though it's supposed to be the power button, though it didn't seam to matter witch button it was; the status bar was gone in address book too but I think it had to do with AI and viewing pictures in full screen. Upon exiting Address the status bar was missing in ZL and Clie Files. To recover the status bar I just launched CO it forced the status bar to appear again so no real problem there.
cktlcmd
05-07-2005, 05:23 AM
Hey sharkboy, can you make so I can you use any one of the four hard buttons as well?
Have you tried this new application? I saw it in the news section of 1src.
http://www.freewarepalm.com/utilities/onekey.shtml
PowerCapture is updated. Here's the deal:
-Config screen lets you change Power button among: Hardkeys 1-4, Capture button, Voice Recorder on T3
-Lets the Capture button work as normal in CLIE Camera and Movie Recorder
enjoy!
link: http://www.ludustech.com/files/PowerCapture.prc
Thanks Sharky! I was late to see this update of yours. :D
cktlcmd
05-07-2005, 06:05 AM
I installed the new update, but I did not see a new icon. I checked using Clie Files and it was installed fine. How can I access the Power Capture settings?
Sharkk717
05-07-2005, 08:48 AM
hey blackcarrera and Christian!
bc- ok, i think the trouble might be caused by the line i added in for jjf (that lets autoRepeat events fire through). i'll remove it and send you a copy, and you can tell me if that works. can you email me at sharkboy717 <at> aol <dot> com?
christian- hey! you need YAHM to run PowerCapture... in YAHM there's a little + button next to PowerCapture. Also, you can select PowerCapture in YAHM and tap the Config button. YAHM is available here: http://yahm.palmoid.com/
regards, sharky
cktlcmd
05-07-2005, 10:15 AM
christian- hey! you need YAHM to run PowerCapture... in YAHM there's a little + button next to PowerCapture. Also, you can select PowerCapture in YAHM and tap the Config button. YAHM is available here: http://yahm.palmoid.com/
regards, sharky
Thanks very much Sharky! Works like a charm! :)
I also encountered a problem, which I believe is caused by YAHM, regarding ADHOC WiFi Hotsync and CRADLE hotsync. I was not able to perform one, it would freeze my screen with a white background and a reset button that does not work, so I had to manually press the reset pin. But "NO WORRY" it can easily be remedied by deactivating your power capture hack and YAHM. As soon as I did that I was able to perform a CRADLE hotsync and ADHOC WiFi Hotsync. Thanks Sharky! Another perfect application. :D
blackcarrera
05-07-2005, 12:13 PM
I don't know if it's my end or your end but I didn't recieve the attatchment corectly becasue all I get is this.
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It is 5 times longer than this, but you get the idea. I wonder if it has to do with virus scanning and comcast is messing with the file.
Sharkk717
05-07-2005, 12:37 PM
i'll just zip it up and send it to you
blackcarrera
05-07-2005, 12:52 PM
I got the download this time but the bug is still there. Just for experimentation purposes could you disable the feature that disables the hack when in Clie camera? I wonder if there is something in common with that.
MrNako
05-07-2005, 04:50 PM
What are you using to compile the skins? There shouldnt be a problem as long as you put the right bitmaps in the right places. You may notice I didnt touch the battery in the skins I altered. Send me the source files, and I can compare them to the originals, and see what the problem may be. If you are using Festus' program, you really should not have this problem at all. Compare the bitmaps to the original bitmaps included in the skin creator. If Festus' program doesnt have them, Pruss' does.
Im using Festus TH55 16 SkinMaker for the status bars. What I noticed is that in my Clie the battery status is made by "removing" parts from the full-battery-bitmap and showing parts from the empty-battery-icon, instead of showing all the independant bitmaps I created. I will send you the source files.
jjesusfreak01
05-07-2005, 05:29 PM
Im using Festus TH55 16 SkinMaker for the status bars. What I noticed is that in my Clie the battery status is made by "removing" parts from the full-battery-bitmap and showing parts from the empty-battery-icon, instead of showing all the independant bitmaps I created. I will send you the source files.
I see, thats more difficult. I'll think about it after dinner.
cktlcmd
05-07-2005, 05:34 PM
Sharky, do you think you can add an option of "Lock" or "Power-Off"? This way we can choose which one we prefer. Thanks.
filber
05-08-2005, 11:48 AM
PowerCapture works quite well. Very quick. The only trouble I've had is that it seems to not functions for every application. For example, while playing Warfare, Inc, if I try to use the Capture button to shut the Clie off, the camera application opens. Overall, it seems to work better than using SharkButton to map the capture button as a power button.
bh77a
05-08-2005, 09:36 PM
Sharky,
Love the app, but I am receiving a fatal error upon Hot Sync. The error is as follows:
Preferences.c Line:271 PrefDB Open Error
The error occurs right at the end of the hot sync, bringing up the above box.
I have narrowed the issue to PowerCapture via trial and error. Diabling it in YAHM solves the problem.
Thanks for the great hack.
enderenya
05-09-2005, 12:51 AM
ps: enderenya, you now have no excuse not to switch from TheGoGo lol
regards, sharkyHave I mentioned enough how much you RULE?!
iwsif
05-09-2005, 05:35 AM
Sharky,
Love the app, but I am receiving a fatal error upon Hot Sync. The error is as follows:
Preferences.c Line:271 PrefDB Open Error
The error occurs right at the end of the hot sync, bringing up the above box.
I have narrowed the issue to PowerCapture via trial and error. Diabling it in YAHM solves the problem.
Thanks for the great hack.
D/l RescoExplorer,(only app able to do this) -> 2nd to right menu -> Repair associations=problem solved
@ Sharky
why don't you put zip files also on your site for those who'd like to d/l directly through NF?Cheers!
fssia
05-09-2005, 05:43 AM
This will be a cool & must-have app for TH55 once the issue with hotsycn is resolved. Not everyone has Resco Explorer. :(
Sharkk717
05-09-2005, 06:44 AM
OK, i'll look into the HotSync problem. Very weird...
regards, sharky
fssia
05-10-2005, 12:42 AM
Sharky, you're the best! ;)
cktlcmd
05-10-2005, 05:23 AM
D/l RescoExplorer,(only app able to do this) -> 2nd to right menu -> Repair associations=problem solved!
Do you think the trial version of resco explorer would also be able to fix this problem?
iwsif
05-10-2005, 05:34 AM
Do you think the trial version of resco explorer would also be able to fix this problem?I think the trial is fully functional for the trial period so if it can fix it,it will even though the problem is more systematic since it appears in every hotsync.But don't worry,you'll see that RE deserves the d/l. :)
cktlcmd
05-10-2005, 06:18 AM
I think the trial is fully functional for the trial period so if it can fix it,it will even though the problem is more systematic since it appears in every hotsync.But don't worry,you'll see that RE deserves the d/l. :)
Thanks for the response. I read a lot of good things about Resco Explorer. I'll try it tonight.
Sharkk717
05-10-2005, 06:26 AM
i'm also going to look into the hotsync issue (i'll email igor tonight)
regards, sharky
bh77a
05-10-2005, 07:54 AM
Got the bright idea to invoke YAHM's option to disable during Hot Sync. Had no crashes but had to use the button about twice before it behaved properly. Give it a try to see what exactly I mean...
cktlcmd
05-10-2005, 09:12 AM
Got the bright idea to invoke YAHM's option to disable during Hot Sync. Had no crashes but had to use the button about twice before it behaved properly. Give it a try to see what exactly I mean...
Thanks very much for this tip. Works like a charm now. :D
fssia
05-10-2005, 08:26 PM
Is the hotsync issue related to YAHM or PowerCapture itself? If it's the formal, may be writing PowerCapture as an app or part of Pref would solve it? If it's the latter, well, then we will have to wait. It's a great app, so it's worth the wait. ;)
cktlcmd
05-10-2005, 08:36 PM
I think it is due to YAHM and not Sharky's PowerCapture App. That is probably the reason why there is an option in YAHM to disable it during hotsync.
winexprt
05-10-2005, 08:36 PM
Thanks Sharky! :) Your app works like a charm. Now I have a MUCH more ergonomic way of turning off my TH55.
bh77a
05-10-2005, 09:09 PM
YAHM provides the functionality of diabling hacks during hot sync as a means of allowing for installing new versions of hacks that you already have on your handheld without actually having to go into YAHM and disable them before the hot sync.
The feature is a standard feature on hack applications (YAHM, X-Master, etc.).
blackcarrera
06-05-2005, 04:47 PM
SharkBoy are there going to be any more upgrades/fixes to this program?
jhintonh
06-07-2005, 05:15 PM
Good Evening-
Any resolution to the H/S issue? I too am getting this and I too like this app.
-Jhintonh
jhintonh
06-07-2005, 05:33 PM
Good Evening-
Just configured YAHM to disable during H/S and problem went away.
-Jhintonh
jhintonh
06-07-2005, 05:41 PM
Good Evening-
BTW, it would be nice for this app to be integrated into the Prefs panel instead of having to utilize YAHM (first time I ever even used YAHM was today for this), a la DefaultCapture.
Thanks to you Sharky for a very nice little alternative with a most handsome price tag.
-Jhintonh
Sharkk717
06-20-2005, 05:15 PM
hello! sorry i haven't been very attentative to this thread for a while... been kinda busy. anyway, i'm here and happy to make some upgrades! what would you like me to change?
is it pretty much just make it a standalone app? want features added?
regards, sharky
blackcarrera
06-20-2005, 05:40 PM
Thanks for coming back Sharkboy.
1: User selectable power button for anyone of the four hard buttons. (Note. the fourth hard buttons needs a special tweak to have power supplied to it while the Clie is off)
2: User selectable to launch the on screen key board with anyone of the four hard buttons.
3: user selectable to launch a desk accessory with any one of the four hard buttons.
Sharkk717
06-20-2005, 05:49 PM
hi blackcarrera!
ok :D
1. Can you please show me an app that lets you do something like this or that demonstrates that the 4th hard key on the TH is power supplied? i spoke to a bunch of people about this but got nothing.
2 + 3. ok, i'll look into those. but you do know those would probably be better as another utility (like, say, SharkBtn). PowerCapture already does what it's supposed to.
regards, sharky
JAmerican
06-20-2005, 05:51 PM
What's the purpose of this app? Why don't you guys just use the power button to turn on and off your devices?
JAmerican
blackcarrera
06-20-2005, 05:57 PM
Here's the link to Flexbutton, you'll have to download the latest beta version near the bottom of the page. http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~imazeki/palm/FxBT/index-e.html
With Flexbutton I am able to do all three of things and I am hoping for a replacement that uses arm code instead of 68k code like Flexbutton.
blackcarrera
06-20-2005, 06:00 PM
What's the purpose of this app? Why don't you guys just use the power button to turn on and off your devices?
JAmerican
The TH55's power button is a slider switch that is located in the middle of the palm of your hand when holding it; because of this I can't turn my Clie on or off with just one hand.
jjesusfreak01
06-20-2005, 06:25 PM
hi blackcarrera!
ok :D
1. Can you please show me an app that lets you do something like this or that demonstrates that the 4th hard key on the TH is power supplied? i spoke to a bunch of people about this but got nothing.
regards, sharky
THe Go Go! has this function. It is the only one I know of that can do it.
blackcarrera
06-20-2005, 06:32 PM
hi blackcarrera!
ok :D
1. Can you please show me an app that lets you do something like this or that demonstrates that the 4th hard key on the TH is power supplied? i spoke to a bunch of people about this but got nothing.
2 + 3. ok, i'll look into those. but you do know those would probably be better as another utility (like, say, SharkBtn). PowerCapture already does what it's supposed to.
regards, sharky
Hey Sharkboy, I just tried Sharkbutton and works as a power button but only for the first three buttons, with the fourth button it's just off and no on. It also can launch the keyboard but no DA support.
Maybe what you could do is continue work on sharkbutton and make it support the fourth button better and give DA support.
Also, Shakbutton doesn't really get disabled when it's told to.
JAmerican
06-20-2005, 06:34 PM
The TH55's power button is a slider switch that is located in the middle of the palm of your hand when holding it; because of this I can't turn my Clie on or off with just one hand.
Oh, I have a problem with this on my UX but I don't mind it because I just shift my hand, while using my strap. If I use my device portrait, everything is perfectly positioned. Not bragging, just saying how it is.
JAmerican
blackcarrera
06-20-2005, 06:39 PM
THe Go Go! has this function. It is the only one I know of that can do it.
The last time I tried the go go it didn't supply power to the TH55's fourth hard button while the Clie is off.
blackcarrera
06-20-2005, 06:48 PM
I'm having major problems with sharkbutton now, I go into palminternals then I go into the notif button and when it's fineshed making the list I try to scroll up the list and I get no response; I can exit with the back button but every thing else is really slow and unresponsive untill I turn the Clie off. I will do more tests to see if it’s the two or something else.
More info: There isn't a problem when I use the side scroll bar but when I use the left or right scroll buttons on the Clie that's when it has the problem.
Sharkk717
06-20-2005, 06:50 PM
hmm... don't bother. my advice: delete SharkBtn for now and wait until i rewrite it over the next few weeks. it'll be way better then and worth your trouble. although if you do find out what's causing the problem, please do tell me!
regards, sharky
blackcarrera
06-20-2005, 07:00 PM
Ok cool, thanks for your help.
blackcarrera
06-20-2005, 07:09 PM
After doing a hard reset and installing only palminternals and sharkbutton I can say that sharkbutton is the problem. At first it works fine but some where along the line of disabling sharkbutton and doing a soft reset and launching sharkbutton and finding that it's still enabled and blah blah blah it malfunctions.
jjesusfreak01
06-20-2005, 07:19 PM
The last time I tried the go go it didn't supply power to the TH55's fourth hard button while the Clie is off.
Im pretty sure it does work. You have to set a special option, and it loads a special file into RAM.
I just tested it, and it does indeed work. If you set the option in THe Go Go!, and use Sharkbutton to map the fourth button to power on/off, it should work fine.
bh77a
06-21-2005, 01:09 PM
Sharky,
PowerCapture is working great.
The only issue is with Hot Sync, and that is able to be bypasses as I covered earlier using the "disable at Hot Sync" option in YAHM.
I would like to see PowerCapture stay a hack that is configurable with YAHM. Some people prefer a standalone app, but if you do develop further, can you still keep a hack version available?
I agree that the extra functionality mentioned by blackcarrera would be better suited to SharkButton (any progress there?).
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