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batigoltuan
04-29-2005, 01:35 AM
I actually experience fairly short time playing music with Ptune and Audioplayer, just about 1.5hours. My previous Palms: NX70V,NX80V and NZ90 last in around 7hours continuously playing with hold button. How can UX with a slower speech consumes much higher enery??? Is it normal with my UX50?

.PoNeH
04-29-2005, 01:46 AM
Wow...I last for hours and hours. Just make sure you turn the screen off by putting the unit on HOLD. Also, turn BT off to conserve battery. I can definetely last in the 5-7 hour range.

batigoltuan
04-29-2005, 01:52 AM
beautiful result...
Yeah, I do put the unit on Hold and also turn off BT, but it lasts in 1.5 hours or less. Tested my UX with battery tester, 1.5 hour is also the result. It really let me down to have to charge 2-3 times a day...

LrdShaper
04-29-2005, 02:29 AM
18hrs on me til the battery was down to 10% then i turned it off and attached the eb40

choongyouqi
04-29-2005, 06:27 AM
ux battery lasts more longer than ipod? wow!

rcxAsh
04-29-2005, 07:35 AM
I went traveling with some people from my school, and I listened to MP3s on my UX40 for hours on end. I don't have an exact number.. but I'm sure that it was longer than 3 hours. Upwards of 4, 5 and 6.

Maybe check that your UX50 is actually clocking itself down to 32MHz when you're playing MP3s. If it's not, then do it manually with sharkboy's UnderClockDA, or, maybe do a soft reset to try to get AudioPlayer doing it on its own again?

batigoltuan
04-29-2005, 07:38 AM
I found that Ptune do consume more than Meadial Launcher.

Skbo
04-29-2005, 10:01 AM
At work I come in, stick in the 1 gig MS I filled the night before, and hit play. I constantly get 8 to 9 hours with about 50 battery left. I just make sure to put the unit on hold. I do this most every day.

ON a trip once, I went about 12 hours using Cliepets Underclocker and still had juice at the end.

I would suggest stop using ptune.

Dave

.PoNeH
04-29-2005, 10:20 AM
I agree...Ptune is not worth it. At the moment I am using Audio Player. But I did get better battery life with Media Launcher.

Sharkk717
04-29-2005, 11:42 AM
PTunes will not give you nearly as much playing time as the built-in app (or any app that uses sony's apis for music playback). That said, PTunes is a much better player in terms of what it will play and the quality at which it plays music.

CliePet has mentioned that it is possible for any developer to, with a little effort, create a sweet audio player that would use the system built-in functions (for battery life) and it's own playlist/ui/everything else so that it would be the ultimate user experience.

Re: underclocking: seems to be so much on our tongues now lol! first cliepet's breakthrough, then the DA, now dmitry's breakthrough. as people have mentioned, using UnderclockDA (which is written using CP's armlet) in AudioPlayer reveals that ap auto-underclocks the system anyway. Just wondering... has anyone tried underclocking PTunes? if so, does the music quality become horrendously drawn out?

regards, sharky

cliefreak
04-29-2005, 12:55 PM
Yeah definitly stick with the built in one.

http://www.1src.com/gallery/data/500/29809HRCapt-jpg2--thumb.JPG

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Love it.

Bionic Antboy
04-29-2005, 01:35 PM
CliePet has mentioned that it is possible for any developer to, with a little effort, create a sweet audio player that would use the system built-in functions (for battery life) and it's own playlist/ui/everything else so that it would be the ultimate user experience.

I must have missed that thread...

So it would be a fairly easy task for Pocket Tunes to make use of the DSP in the UX/TH/VZ? Would this affect the playability of VBR mp3s in pTunes? Anyone want to start a petition? :)

Sharkk717
04-29-2005, 01:39 PM
well... depends what you consider "fairly easy"... i'd say so (especially for them, if they wanted to devote resources to it). you'd still be able to play other types of music, just not through Sony's built-in stuff.

regards, sharky

Bionic Antboy
04-29-2005, 02:31 PM
So basically, it would only make use of the DSP if the audio was a format compatible with it... got it.

I wouldn't bother then. I'll just keep converting unfriendly podcasts. My need for playlists and such is pretty minimal, and Album Swap does the trick... It just IRKS me that Sony makes an awesome device, capable of amazing playback of sound and video, but still makes us jump through hoops (like CBR only mp3) to get the desired results.

Still, the pretty simple hoop of using clieMP4converter for spectacular video playback WITH the DSP is a hoop worth jumping. Same with the Audio Player. :D

rcxAsh
04-29-2005, 03:50 PM
has anyone tried underclocking PTunes? if so, does the music quality become horrendously drawn out?

regards, sharky
I had my Clie underclocked to 32MHz once.. and then lightwave started ptunes for an alarm. It was terrible. Basically, the music just stutters, and it's hard to do anything else.

Cyker
04-29-2005, 04:32 PM
Yeah, I think the lowest you can get away with is 64MHz with a HHE.

I'd love for someone to reverse-engineer the DSP, assuming it's possible to get it to handle other formats.
At the moment, I use TCPMP for all 'non-standard' MP3s and also for OGG.
If the DSP was capable of playing MP3s that were VBR, and also at other frequencies (e.g. 22kHz) that would go a loong way. OGG would be a bonus :D

SonyStyle
04-29-2005, 05:54 PM
1.5 hours brigtness at max w/ media launchr

batigoltuan
04-30-2005, 10:23 AM
I found that I can play 3.5h with Meadial Launcher but just 45mins with Ptune... Maybe it is because ML can play in 34Mhz of speech while Ptune need at least 96Mhz. However what Iam concerning is that why can my battery drain too fast???

C.L
04-30-2005, 11:56 AM
How long can you guys play a movie (768 kbps and 384kps) - half brightness and full brightness with MediaLauncher?

DrSpeed
04-30-2005, 03:16 PM
With the monitor turned on it only lasts a couple of hours. If u fold the screen and turn it off mine plays for almost a full 24 hours. This one time I completely forgot to turn it off and when i found it running it was playing for 17 hours straight and about 16% of battery still left. I think the UX as a DAP is one of it's more underrated strong points. :P

.PoNeH
04-30-2005, 03:25 PM
Yea, I agree with DrSpeed...it is really underrated.

DrSpeed
04-30-2005, 05:42 PM
I still use the UX as my primary DAP on campus and I must say it's actually very competitive as a DAP. I use a 512mb memorystick duo on media launcher and I'm loving it!! My total commuting time from dorm to campus is like 10 minutes walk, so 512mb suits my needs very well. Although I feel constant temptation towards dedicated DAPs like the ipod shuffle, iriver h10 etc, the UX copes with my high demands in music very well. I'm a bit of an audiophile and I connect the UX with a headphone amp and listen to it through Grado SR80 headphones and the sound is pretty damn good for a pda. Sound-wise it's on par with most popular DAPs out there. One minor complaint is the lack of equalizers but still, this little pda does the job very very well.

Heck, I can do everything the UX can do while listening to high quality music. $400 well spent for a used UX50. :P

SonyStyle
04-30-2005, 06:46 PM
u guys seem to exaggerate the battery life of the ux50 wtih monitor folded down playing music.

Skbo
05-01-2005, 08:35 AM
SonyStyle, not at all. All the times listed seem reasonable and compatable to what I have experienced.

Dave

SonyStyle
05-01-2005, 12:25 PM
24 hours and 17 hours? are u kidding? i would belive the th55 can last 24 hours on hold but not the ux50.

.PoNeH
05-01-2005, 12:58 PM
I don't know about mine, but it should come close. I'll test it out one day...and let you know...

DrSpeed
05-01-2005, 02:14 PM
I'm with Poneh, im confident my UX can reach atleast 17 hours i mentioned above. 20hours constant play is definitely possible. That is when music is playing through media launcher, screen off, hold switch, and max volume with AVLS.