anyone w/ scratches on NX?

[alsa]

I had the NR model (broke 2 days ago - I injured it really bad, screen died... don't ask... and I was going on and on in the NR forum about how I am not switching to OS 5 for a year :D ).

Well, now I am shopping for a new Clie (definitely not a Tungsten).

I have my sights set on the NX. Sorry, the NZ is just a brick. I probably will have the NX for a 1-1.5 years, 'cause I know something else WILL come out. So far my evolution has been:

Pam IIIx
Palm Vx
Palm m505
Clie NR70V - I have had each of these for about 10-12 months.

So (finally) my question: I played with the NX at BestBuy, and its surface seems a lot more durable than on the NR - Anyone can comment on scratches on the surface of the NX after good everyday use?

I have a $100 case for my NR that I don't know what I am going to do with now... I think it's Vaja It's black and is an ideal case. I might cut out an opening on the back for the CF slot. It should fit I think.

It's been two days without a Palm/Clie (first time since 99), and I am doing OK. I could be better. I still use my desktop versions of the applications I had on the NR (Splash ID, Splash Money, address, datebook), although it's been TWO days w/o Datebook5 and Shadowplan - I won't last more than 2 weeks I am sure! :D

Oh, and I am reading my e-books using PalmReader desktop version on my laptop. So far so good. I think I can live for a few days, but that's it!

So, I think I will get the NX...

[alsa]

Oh, and this should be a relatively easy transfer because my Memory Stick is safe - everything's on it (though TWO days old) :D

I think I know what programs not to restore. BackUpBuddy works under OS 5, right? I think I had the latest version too.

Some problems may arise with programs that use different files for different OS's. Thus, I think MegaCalc has an OS 5 specific version, and mine was for 4.1. I think most of Megasoft's stuff is like that. Same with SlovoEd I think... Hmm, don't know about any more.I think I'll ask this in a new thread...

[YTTAN]

Nx screen is definite better than NZ. It is more sensitive in graffii writing than NZ too. I never use graffii in NZ now. either builtin kb or virtual kb only.

[n2ifp]

I am not to sure about backup buddy working on OS5, check Blue Nomad First. I am sorry to hear about your misfortune :( 

Thanks to ridunn for the info below. He sent this to his friend who was upgrading from a NR to a NX.

Do not HotSync directly from the old Clie to the New! You'll end up with an unusable mess!

1) You want to be very careful in restoring your system. This is unlike any upgrade you've done before. Take your old machine and do a backup to the MS, then I would make a copy of the MS on your desktop using BackupBuddy or MSImport, and finally do one last hotsync of the NR. Make the copy of the MS in a safe folder that won't easily get deleted. Figure out what folder your Hotsync backup goes in (mine is c:\program files\sony handheld\rod) and move that entire folder to somewhere else, like your desktop.

1b) Before you restore files to the NX, install the Clie Desktop that comes on the NX CD (install the newer version later). Now go very carefully through the list of files in the NR Hotsync backup. I would make a separate folder that will be for files that you now want to install on the NX. In this new folder, I would recommend not putting any hacks or preference files (either system or file preferences). This means you're going to have to reenter a lot of reg codes and recategorize LX, but at least you'll have a clean system. DAs work fine on the NX, though any hack-based DA Launchers won't. I use McPhling and SelectDA (see the thread from yesterday in the NX forum) to launch my DAs. If you're uncertain whether or not a file is OK for the NX, I would error on the side of caution. Then take your "OK" files and install them. At this point, maybe try to run them all and make sure they're not crashing anything. If so, do a hard reset and repeat this step.

2) Get some great NX utilities - You will definitely want to get a copy of OKey v1.1, and you probably want to get a copy of Fonts4NX and CodeDiver. OKey is kind of like a replacement for PageDownHack and the old Jog Preferences menu for OS4. I have all 3 options checked. Super Jog Assist allows you to hold down the jog button in apps with buttons until one of the buttons is highlighted. You can then scroll between buttons using the jog dial and also use it to selec the button you want to hit. For example, when a DB alarm goes off, I hold the jog dial down until a button is highlighted, then scroll to the OK button, and hit select without needing to use my stylus. Scroll Up/Down does two things. It adds two very visible up down buttons to the status bar, and it also adds 4 hidden buttons that take the place of the hardware buttons. The battery icon launches whatever the DateBook button is set to launch, and the left, middle, and right parts of the clock section launch the Address, Todo, and Memo button apps. The Sticky Key Mode allows you to hit the Shift key let it go, then hit a letter and it will be capitalized. Same thing with the Function button. After using the NR, this takes awhile to get used to. Unfortunately, there is a bug so that even when this is unchecked, the Shift button works as if it's on (Function button doesn't work this way with the option unchecked), so I think it's less confusing to just leave it checked and get used to it. Once you do, it's very nice. This is a great app and it's freeware.

Fonts4NX allows you to use Lubak's fonts to replace the system fonts; similar to what FontHack did in OS4, but this is a stand-alone app. The latest version allows the unused fonts to be on the MS, and the app itself can be run from the MS.

CodeDiver does a lot of things, but I only use it to launch certain apps in high-res+ mode. For example, LX has a bug under OS5 so that Clie apps launch with the VG area showing. CodeDiver takes care of this problem. Just hit Add, select a specific app, select the button next to VirtualSilk, and change SizeChg to Set and change the Started Size to Long. Leave everything else as is and hit OK. I also use this same setting for BugMe, since depending on how BugMe was launched, it would sometimes launch with the VG area showing. For BugMe, I also have the StopedSize set to Long, but I'm not sure if that's needed or not. Works for me though. Finally, if you use Handyshopper, this app can make it high-res+, and it works great!! For HS, set SizeChg to Force, StartedSize to Long and StopedSize to Long. I also have SopedPlugin set to Same, but I'm not sure if that's needed. Leave everything else alone and hit OK. You now have a high-res+ HS!! One bug with this method is that if you launch HS and then want to bring the VG area back (to search for an item or to enter a new item), the screen looks a little screwy and it acts like it's frozen for a few seconds. It will eventually come back, but the bottom part of the screen won't look normal again until you go back to your launcher. It's harmless though, and I like having HS in full-screen mode so much that I just use my keyboard to enter things now and leave the VG area hidden.

3) Update apps to NX versions - McPhling is the big one here, if you use it. DON'T reinstall v4.3. You need to install v5.10. It's now a stand-alone app. The latest bleeding edge release of AcidImage also works great, and you're not going to believe how much faster pics load than they did on your NR.

4) If you used a backup app before, it probably won't work now. JBBackup, CardBackup, PIBackup, etc all don't run under OS5. BBVFS kinda works. It worked OK for me if I wanted to back up everything, but it was very hard to set specific items to backup at certain times. The good news is that MSBackup works very good on the NX and has reliable restores. The bad news is that MSBackup doesn't allow for scheduling. I also have a beta of CardBackup that works on the NX pretty good and does allow scheduling, and this should be released within a few weeks. But for now, I would stick with MSBackup and set an alarm in BugMe or DB5 to remind yourself to do it.

5) Most hacks don't work on the NX. I though that this would be a major factor for me, but it really wasn't. Some hacks have been converted into stand-alone versions, and others have other kinds of replacements. One hack I missed was ClearHack, which removed all of the lines, but there's a pretty good solution for this. Just get Colorize, click on Edit, then click on the Field tab, and set Lines to be the same color as background. Voila, no more lines.

6) RAM space. As you've probably heard, only 11MB of the 16MB of RAM is actually available, so if you have less than 5MB available on your NR, you may have to rearrange things on the NX. The good news is that launching apps from the MS is very fast on the NX. Except for apps I use very frequently, have alarms, or have conduits, I put everything else in the Launcher folder on the MS. A lot of people at CS like PowerRun, but I think LX is faster at launching these apps. I'm a registered PowerRun user from way back when it was the only solution (pre-MSMount days), so it's not a matter of free vs paying; I just think LX does a better job. Of course, the stuff I use has tiny databases for the most part, so being able to keep writeable databases on the MS was not a big selling point for me. YMMV.

That's all I can think of for now. Have fun with your new toy!!:( :(

[Wolfsmoke]

alsa

Sorry to hear of the death of your NR. But I don't think youll mind as much when you have the NX. And congrats on making it 2 days without. I'd be foaming at the mouth right now. :)

[alsa]

Thanks much to all who replied - I knew people on these forums are very helpful. :)

I will probably be getting my NX over the weekend. :)

[rhart00]

The only scratch I have on my NX is a very tiny one on the capture button but other than that it is flawless. I definitely recommend getting a case or modifying your case to protect the NX from scratches. I have the Vaja Ivolution case for my NX. I think you have the same one except for the NR. I wish you luck in modding it to work with the NR.

[sstrasser86]

i have had my NX for almost 3 or 4 months and no scratches

[xlr8]

One or two scratches on the screen when i used a ball point pen (the fine space pen one cause i thought i clicked stylus on my tri-action pen). No scratches on the metal though it isnt as rough as it originally was.

The only 'wear and tear' is that on the hinge (with the screen) the paint on the corners has worn off a bit and i can see a translucenty dirty grey colour underneath but only if i look closely. So the clie is not all metal (only the screen part from the swivel up and the bottom part

[YTTAN]

xlr8,

"The only 'wear and tear' is that on the hinge (with the screen) the paint on the corners has worn off a bit and i can see a translucenty dirty grey colour underneath but only if i look closely"

you can actually rub it off my a soft cloth it will disappear again which this had mention long time ago in this forum.

[xlr8]

Wouldnt rubbing remove more paint? I'm confused as to what you mean and i was just commenting on what happened not how to fix it :p

[Inginious]

I had a Palm IIIe, Visor deluxe, NX70 and i have to say that the best screen out of the three was the Visor.

after i got the NX i tried scratching it on purpose and i didnt manage to create one scratch, its also very smooth.

I believe its due to the pen (rounder and thinker than the rest)

[YTTAN]

Pls try it as i mentioned and you will see what i mean.

[nx70]

I carry my NX all day in bag, separated from the rest of it. Although I am trying to be very cautious with it it has ugly weat ansd tear on one of the corners. Now about one month after it has also a little scratch on the clamshell. Not that big, but recognizable. I wouldn't go to tough with it. It won't break, but the design is not made for carrying without a special case. That's a pitty for it is not very useful to have a case which prevents me from changing easily from clamshell mode to tablet mode...
oh damn.

[sstrasser86]

i am sure there is a case able to do that....serch these fourms for the poll about fav case it has websites of all the cases. I am sure there is one that can do it (i hope)

[YTTAN]

Actually there is in the following link:

http://www.vajacases.com/vaja/catalogo.nsf/(ViewPPEN)?OpenView&Cat=nx

I still waiting for my NZ90 from this website....wait... wait... wait... until my face long... long....

[nx70]

I know the Vaja cases as well as the Piel frama onesa. They are both very stylish. But as far as I can see the pictures they are both hindering the clamshell design in order to be slim and nice. Good work though.

I think the clamshell design it self hinders good casing. O the one hand I don't want to have a flap hanging down when I am in Tablet mode. On the other I don't want to bother around with an strap sticking to it in clamshell, for I have to remove it first for tablet mode. Get the point?

The best would have been to buy a bullet grey one or to get a finish like the Powerbooks by Apple. They ae really tough, or at least the surface is.