AudioPlayer Playlist Sorting

[JAmerican]

Anyone know how to sort the AudioPlayer v3 Playlist while in shuffle mode?

JAmerican

[JAmerican]

Anyone??

JAmerican

[CliePet]

Confusing...
"Shuffle mode" is where the computer randomly picks the play order.

If you want control over the playlist, edit it normally (manually shuffling the list using up and down) and use the normal play mode ("Program Play")

[JAmerican]

I want it to Shuffle as I play but want the acutal list of songs in order by name. I want this so I can browse through my songs and select one while they are sorted then let my player pick and choose songs.

[enderenya]

I could be totally reading this wrong, but I would just use AlbumSwap (http://www.aibohack.com/clie/albumswap.htm) to switch playlists, and then have it shuffle.

[JAmerican]

Na, I want to have all my songs in one folder and have them view in asending, alphabetical order so I can access a song easily but also have it in shuffle mode so that the songs don't play in order. It would get too repetitive and annoying.

JAmerican

[CliePet]

> ...I want to have all my songs in one folder and have them view in asending, alphabetical order so I can access a song easily but also have it in shuffle mode so that the songs don't play in order.

That's what mine does, already.

Start the Audio Player normally and it shows the alphabetical list
[Do not press the "sort" button on the upper right]
Select "Shuffle" mode and play. The list stays alphabetical, and the current playing jumps around.

If this doesn't work for you:
+ copy the .mp3s them from your PC *in alphabetical order*
(TIP: I prefer placing the "Track #" as a two digit number in front of the name to retain original album order)
+ delete any MP3LIST.M3U file laying around

[JAmerican]

> ...I want to have all my songs in one folder and have them view in asending, alphabetical order so I can access a song easily but also have it in shuffle mode so that the songs don't play in order.

That's what mine does, already.

Start the Audio Player normally and it shows the alphabetical list
[Do not press the "sort" button on the upper right]
Select "Shuffle" mode and play. The list stays alphabetical, and the current playing jumps around.

If this doesn't work for you:
+ copy the .mp3s them from your PC *in alphabetical order*
(TIP: I prefer placing the "Track #" as a two digit number in front of the name to retain original album order)
+ delete any MP3LIST.M3U file laying around

I have 162 tracks. That's too much. Also, if I add a track later, then I have to resync all my files again. Too painfully long.

JAmerican

[enderenya]

Too bad there isn't a little utility to simply alphabetize the tracks by modifying all the files in whatever way AudioPlayer recognizes them ... Is it the creation date?

I'm not sure which way it uses to know in which order the files were copied over.
I also don't know how much work it would be to make such a utility... but it doesn't seem like it would that hard. (for someone else <grin>)

[JAmerican]

Anyone solve this problem?

JAmerican

[Cyker]

No easy way to do it :(

Theoretically, one could code a proggy that shuffles the FAT table entries around (Rather than moving files back and forth) which would be a lot faster, but I've never seen anyone do this, and direct FAT entry manipulation is normally handled by lower-level code than most programmers normally deal with...

[CliePet]

> Anyone solve this problem?

Yes, see above. I copy music to memory stick using a memory stick reader. No problems at all.
Having 162 tracks in the same folder causes a number of problems, which is why I wrote AlbumSwap. Even so the file copy technique will still work as long as the new tracks are added at the end.

If still dissatisfied, (ie. you don't like this feature, or don't like the built in features of Audio Player or don't like the features of AlbumSwap) you can write your own player which has those features you want and none of the fluff. The core music playing is done by the system, the rest is UI and playlist options.

FWIW: I've thought of writing an open source CLIE specific AudioPlayer replacement, but IMHO the AudioPlayer + AlbumSwap combination is very close to what most people want.

[JAmerican]

> Anyone solve this problem?

Yes, see above. I copy music to memory stick using a memory stick reader. No problems at all.
Having 162 tracks in the same folder causes a number of problems, which is why I wrote AlbumSwap. Even so the file copy technique will still work as long as the new tracks are added at the end.

If still dissatisfied, (ie. you don't like this feature, or don't like the built in features of Audio Player or don't like the features of AlbumSwap) you can write your own player which has those features you want and none of the fluff. The core music playing is done by the system, the rest is UI and playlist options.

FWIW: I've thought of writing an open source CLIE specific AudioPlayer replacement, but IMHO the AudioPlayer + AlbumSwap combination is very close to what most people want.

I can only code VB.net and I don't know how to code using codecs. If I had AppForge Crossfire, I could do that but what I'm left with is HB++ as the best alternative at a low price.

I might get a PPC next due to the advantages in coding I will have.

JAmerican

[RFW213]

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, but if you use MusicMatch Jukebox (I'd bet other audioplayers can do this as well) you you can move a playlist to your memory stick. The playlist, for better (or worse usually) always goes on in alphabetical order when you click into the playlist and [Select All] rather than copying the playlist tunes over as a folder. Open the memory stick in audio player and voila, they are in alphabetical order and you can shuffle play them if you like without losing the alphabetization.

[JAmerican]

Wow!! Thanks. I'll try it. I already used the delete and recopy method alrreay but I'll add a new song and see if it sorts. Thanks man

JAmerican

[JAmerican]

Look at this... I got my tracks to sort easily. Nice trick. :)

http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85178

JAmerican

[CliePet]

Sorry to nit-pick, but that's what I suggested:
> If this doesn't work for you:
> + copy the .mp3s them from your PC *in alphabetical order*

If you have a stick reader, you can *move* files from one folder to another on the same voluime it won't copy the data again. A very common technique on Windows (or any O/S that doesn't auto-sort directories). Not what I would call a 'trick', but to each-his-own...

[JAmerican]

Sorry to nit-pick, but that's what I suggested:
> If this doesn't work for you:
> + copy the .mp3s them from your PC *in alphabetical order*

If you have a stick reader, you can *move* files from one folder to another on the same voluime it won't copy the data again. A very common technique on Windows (or any O/S that doesn't auto-sort directories). Not what I would call a 'trick', but to each-his-own...

:) I didn't know that I could do that so I was amazed by it. Now I move my files from one folder to another when I add a new song. Problem solved :)

JAmerican