New revolutionary FREE media player is out!!

[junglemike]

Hi all.
Glad to announce a new video/audio player -
The Core pocket Media Player (tcpmp) for Palm os.
It has been only released, but it is already fastest video player for palm.
About 1.5-2 times faster than MMplayer, SmartMovie, or any other player for palm OS.

Even owners of slower devices as TE/Zire71/TT/TT2 can enjoy full screen full framerate video playback. No more tweaks are needed on TT3/TT5 - it is so fast, that it easily plays any video , without overclocking or pre-rotation.

This player is based on the engine of BetaPlayer for pocketPc, and is written ty the developer of BetaPlayer - one of best players for PPc's. therefore it is very optimized, and supports large variety of formats.
For example, this is the only player for palm OS, that can play .OGM (ogg media
video) and .MKV (motroska) video formats. No need to mention that it plays regualar .AVI(divx/Xvid), and also .mp3 and .ogg (and other ) audio files. And it is completely free.

Although it is pre-alpha reliese, it's olready behaves very stable, and does excellent job. I personally tested it on TT3 and TE, and found no problems.

Get it here:
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/

Lieve your feedbacks/requests/bugs here on Betaplayer forum:
http://corecodec.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1327

[kennyd]

No need for me to try it yet. Other Zod users have already reported crashes on start up. Hopefully that's going to be a simple fix.

[SirKillalot]

OMG!!!! This thing is ****ing amazing!!! It plays a 320*176 24 FPS movie FULLSCREEN with a speed of 120% in the benchmark! And this on my old TG50, working with 200 Mhz... I don't want to imagine how fast it'll work on a TH or a T5... Very good job!

[jjesusfreak01]

OMG!!!! This thing is ****ing amazing!!! It plays a 320*176 24 FPS movie FULLSCREEN with a speed of 120% in the benchmark! And this on my old TG50, working with 200 Mhz... I don't want to imagine how fast it'll work on a TH or a T5... Very good job!
Actually, the TH benches as 120% also. A TC would probably bench at like 3000%.

[SoS]

this is amazing...

just played the matrix test movie from picard

320x176, 24fps@256kps, 64kps mp3 stereo @ 22010Hz

play absolutely flawlessly....on a TT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...yep, thats a
144MHz OMAP 1510 with a miserable 800K of dynamic heap....

awesome!

[T.rob]

make funny of me if you wish but how did you get it to play any thing? the program starts up but where is the option to select a video file or anything else? I just have a big black screen with the controls at the bottom.

[cesarcardoso]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

COMPLETELY AWESOME! 130.76% (or 130,76% for us using Metric system :p ) Average Speed on my TG50 with the Matrix film test.

Kinoma and MMPlayer will have a run for their money soon, if Picard manages to make a better UI... :D

[SoS]

make funny of me if you wish but how did you get it to play any thing? the program starts up but where is the option to select a video file or anything else? I just have a big black screen with the controls at the bottom.

this is a pre-alpha so no bells and whistles yet. It really is a test of the betaplayer engine on palm devices. The movie file has to be on the top directory of the SD card for it to be seen by the program...hth

[junglemike]

Hey guys, Next version 0.61 is out.
Some bugfixes.
I can confirm that green background is fixed!

And probably T5 landscape should work now.
Zodiacs should not crush upon start too.
Check it out.

[SirKillalot]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

COMPLETELY AWESOME! 130.76% (or 130,76% for us using Metric system :p ) Average Speed on my TG50 with the Matrix film test.

Kinoma and MMPlayer will have a run for their money soon, if Picard manages to make a better UI... :D

Hi, how did you do that? Is your TG50 running at 200 Mhz or is it overclocked?

P.S: going to try out v.0.61 heheheehehee^^

[SirKillalot]

OMG, THIS IS INCREDIBLE!!!! new version seems to be even faster!! Played that matrix trailer with a speed of 175.50%!!! Man, this will kick MM's and Kinoma's ***... unfortunately the sound isn't working in the new version... Getting "Wave Output: Device error!"

[maceyr]

make funny of me if you wish but how did you get it to play any thing? the program starts up but where is the option to select a video file or anything else? I just have a big black screen with the controls at the bottom.

Make sure that the movie file is in the root directory of your expansion card. Then, simply press the PLAY button or >> or << to go to the next playable file located in the root directory.

Also, press up on the 5 way navigator buttons (or equivalent) to increase the volume or vice versa. Press right or left to fast forward or review the movie.

Remember it's in alpha version so many features and stuff we come to expect (compared to MMPlayer or others) won't be in it but hopefully later versions will.

[jjesusfreak01]

Make sure that the movie file is in the root directory of your expansion card. Then, simply press the PLAY button or >> or << to go to the next playable file located in the root directory.

Also, press up on the 5 way navigator buttons (or equivalent) to increase the volume or vice versa. Press right or left to fast forward or review the movie.

Remember it's in alpha version so many features and stuff we come to expect (compared to MMPlayer or others) won't be in it but hopefully later versions will.
They plan to get it up to the level of BetaPlayer, and then develop them side by side.

[tckober73]

Like the software a lot.
Works great on my T5, except of the famous white screen upon exiting the app.
It takes about 5 secs before it disappears.

[daver]

wow, just tried it out and it's WAAAY smoother than MMPlayer! any word on when it'll become a final release? it looks very promising thus far!

[damn, there's $15 down the drain (i really should have paid attention to those who said MMPlayer isn't worth it). i'm not saying that MMPlayer isn't really cr@ppy, just that TCPMP is much smoother and surprisingly stable compared to MMPlayer. the messy UI isn't a problem with me, as i'm one of those people who don't care what it looks like as long as it works.]

[jjesusfreak01]

wow, just tried it out and it's WAAAY smoother than MMPlayer! any word on when it'll become a final release? it looks very promising thus far!

[damn, there's $15 down the drain (i really should have paid attention to those who said MMPlayer isn't worth it). i'm not saying that MMPlayer isn't really cr@ppy, just that TCPMP is much smoother and surprisingly stable compared to MMPlayer. the messy UI isn't a problem with me, as i'm one of those people who don't care what it looks like as long as it works.]
MMPlayer was the absolute best alternative before they came out with this news. The Magic Lantern was the next best alternative, but not even it was really anygood until the version released yesterday, which still has alot of bugs.

Its going to be developed with BetaPlayer, and therefore will have no final release, but will be continually developed.

[Romans8:38]

Ok. I am like T.Rob Just a black screen. does it play mqv files

[TJ37]

If it's what people say it is (didn't get to try it today), PLEASE LET IT REMAIN FREEWARE!

[ato]

which directory should i put video/audio inside??

i'm TH55 user...and can't find "open" option..
also...media info are empty....(MS 128MB already plug)

anyway,greatjob when see the user reply.thank you!!!

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problem fix

i think this player can auto detect what movie and audio ,good.

but hope add some button for "FFW" "FBW" "time seek" "volume left/right"
and i got a problem on lanscape mode....movie haven't show...

need to say.....best video player on palm!!!

[ato]

1 more question...how many codec format can it play/support??thank you

[yo!clieuser]

I also have no files available to play on my nx73...should I add a directory called "root"? or do the files need to be in the usual MS location (MQ_ROOT)?

[SirKillalot]

I also have no files available to play on my nx73...should I add a directory called "root"? or do the files need to be in the usual MS location (MQ_ROOT)?
The root directory is '/', like C:\ on a windows machine or / in Linux... just put the file in there, and please don't post this question anymore o_O

[Yuriv]

Thank you guys!
This is a product I have waited for for years!
I copied a South Park episode directly off of my hard drive (DivX 5.11, 29.97fps, 264kbps) and it played beautifully on my TH55 - audio in sync and not many dropped frames according to the "media info" dialogue.
By jove, they've done it.
One question, however, about orientation. I tried reencoding the same clip rotated 90 degrees, but it still played in Landscape orientation on the TH. Will rotate be an option on a later release? Or, will the landscape utility work with this program?
Thanks very much and keep up the great work!

[STBXXL]

Hey guys, Next version 0.61 is out.
Some bugfixes.
I can confirm that green background is fixed!

And probably T5 landscape should work now.
Zodiacs should not crush upon start too.
Check it out.

Well, I cannot confirm that landscape mode works on my T5 with v0.61. The program itself rotates, but the movie only moves from the center position (in portrait mode) to the top half of the screen (still in portrait mode). Look weird - but I'm sure this will be fixed soon.

Cheers.

[daver]

how'd you get it to rotate? i rotated the video file during the conversion process so it would play in landscape (480x200), but TCPMP only plays it in portrait mode! ARGH!

[STBXXL]

I tried both but in both cases (portrait mode or pre-rotated using VirtualDub) it would only show the movie in portrait mode. I also tried using the T5's landscape mode w/o success. I'll guess this needs some further work.

Cheers.

[Romans8:38]

Thank you guys!
This is a product I have waited for for years!
I copied a South Park episode directly off of my hard drive (DivX 5.11, 29.97fps, 264kbps) and it played beautifully on my TH55 - audio in sync and not many dropped frames according to the "media info" dialogue.
By jove, they've done it.
One question, however, about orientation. I tried reencoding the same clip rotated 90 degrees, but it still played in Landscape orientation on the TH. Will rotate be an option on a later release? Or, will the landscape utility work with this program?
Thanks very much and keep up the great work!
Where did u copy it to?
I can't seem to get it to recognize anything on my memory stick.

Thanks

[daver]

copy the video files to the main directory of your memory stick. read the stuff that's been posted earlier in this thread.

[mrklaw]

I tried it out on the UX50. Here are my results:
Doesn't do full screen.
Benchmarks:
Average Speed: 24.56%
Benchmark FPS: 7.36
Benchmark time: 0:24.319
Original FPS: 29.97
Original time: 0:05.972

Apparently, it doesn't take advantage of the extra video hardware on the UX.

I had copied an avi, wmv, and mov file onto my memory stick and it only identified the avi as a playable movie.

I think I'll stick to converting my videos with ImageConverter and playing with FMP for now.

[mrklaw]

If you want to test with the same video file that I used, you can download it here
http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=07ZAMGL5KAR5X0JE2166YPJYLI

It's around 67 Megabytes.

[junglemike]

I tried it out on the UX50. Here are my results:
Doesn't do full screen.
Benchmarks:
Average Speed: 24.56%
Benchmark FPS: 7.36
Benchmark time: 0:24.319
Original FPS: 29.97
Original time: 0:05.972

Apparently, it doesn't take advantage of the extra video hardware on the UX.

I had copied an avi, wmv, and mov file onto my memory stick and it only identified the avi as a playable movie.

I think I'll stick to converting my videos with ImageConverter and playing with FMP for now.

Of course it will be slow - what did you expect from 640x480@1200kbps@30fps clip, which is 2 times larger than your pal'ms screen?

But even this file plays smooth on my T3 @533
Benchmarks at 79.47%,
benchmark FPS: 23.82%
20% dropped frames completely unnoticable.
It simply can run easily any 1 or 2-cd video movie w/o any conversion.
Great!

[mrklaw]

I'm not complaining about the program. It sounds like it works great for palms that don't already have the software to play videos. I'm just reporting how it worked on my UX50 so that other UX50 users don't have to download it to learn that it doesn't support the whole (landscape) screen and that it is extremely choppy (on a UX50) when playing the kind of videos that you might download from the internet.

After running the same video through ImageConverter 1.5, I got a 15 meg file that was a 320x240 mpeg4 file and it played great fullscreen using FMP on my UX50.

[meir87]

Just tried it out and its very impressive. I just hope they get it working fullscreen landscape.

[SoS]

I'm not complaining about the program. It sounds like it works great for palms that don't already have the software to play videos. I'm just reporting how it worked on my UX50 so that other UX50 users don't have to download it to learn that it doesn't support the whole (landscape) screen and that it is extremely choppy (on a UX50) when playing the kind of videos that you might download from the internet.

After running the same video through ImageConverter 1.5, I got a 15 meg file that was a 320x240 mpeg4 file and it played great fullscreen using FMP on my UX50.


i dont get it...it doesnt work (not surprisingly) as is but does when you convert it to something manageable...so whats the point???
:confused:

[jjesusfreak01]

Of course it will be slow - what did you expect from 640x480@1200kbps@30fps clip, which is 2 times larger than your pal'ms screen?

But even this file plays smooth on my T3 @533
Benchmarks at 79.47%,
benchmark FPS: 23.82%
20% dropped frames completely unnoticable.
It simply can run easily any 1 or 2-cd video movie w/o any conversion.
Great!
That file formatted to something reasonable for a palm pda would play perfectly on most pdas.

[CliePet]

my test cases: 352x240 video, 30fps original DIVX

UX50 and TH55 run around 55% to 60% of full frame rate (ie. 15 to <20 fps)

No scaling. If you scale the video it only uses 320x320 (ie. no CLIE silk screen or rotation awareness yet)
Good start, but may need some help for the slow CPU of the TH/UX/VZ

---
Haven't made any measurements, but I suspect it will burn the batteries much faster than the built-in codecs.
As always, if you are going to re-encode the video, the native CLIE formats (encoded with IC1/2 and played with MoviePlayer/MediaLauncher or FullMoviePlayer) will play more efficiently.

If you have existing DIVX encoded movies for smaller screen movie players [eg: Archos], then you save yourself a lot of time since you don't need to re-encode.

[knank]

New version 0.62, Landscape Supported ;P, just push FULL button.

See you :D


http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/

[meir87]

I can confirm the landscape works (on TH55) and it even scales in landscape (to 200%). The Zoom to fit feature doesn't work at all though. Keep up the great work!

[miked1541]

Landscape works on my NZ90. It locked up the first couple times but reset it and it works fine. The version on mine still says UNSTABLE 0.61 even though I installed 0.62. Also, if I check the INFO menu item in PalmOS, the version says that it's v1.0.

[kcirbmab]

Argh, I wanna try this. Now I can't wait for my NX70v to arrive :(

[lmame]

I tried on the VZ90 and I got a small problem... The graffiti aera remains, I can't minimize it (the arrow is grayed) and when I tap on the Full button, it doesn't change a thing...


Edit:
I tried forcing it with code diver, no way... :(

[lmame]

I also tried on a UX, it's a better result than mmplayer :)
It's great ;)

[JJF01]

I tried on the VZ90 and I got a small problem... The graffiti aera remains, I can't minimize it (the arrow is grayed) and when I tap on the Full button, it doesn't change a thing...


Edit:
I tried forcing it with code diver, no way... :(
Dont just tell us, post this error on the corecodec forum.

[lmame]

Dont just tell us, post this error on the corecodec forum.

I did it, just after my post here ;)
http://corecodec.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1341

[Pdaman]

mmplayer producer may not like this software guys... you know... lol :rolleyes:

[kcirbmab]

Will it detect files off of a CF card on an NX70v?

[jjesusfreak01]

Will it detect files off of a CF card on an NX70v?It should be able to detect any file in the root folder of a mounted flash card, but there are some bugs. Later versions will have this perfected.

[WildCelt]

In the latest release (0.62 by my count), it appears to scan the entire card now, not just the root.

I am really looking forward to seeing just what this program turns into!

[madmaxmedia]

This program is just in time for the new Palm LifeDrive! That one will be a great video player with Beta Player for Palm-

1. High resolution
2. Large internal drive for storing lots of high-quality video
3. Fast CPU

It should be able to play anything you throw at it, and has large enough storage as well. So you can re-encode movies to save on storage space, or just load them as-is since the Beta Player will play it well and you have plenty of space to spare.

I have quite a few divx/xvid movies on CD to play in my DVD player. At say 700 MB each, you could fit 5 full-length movies on this Palm if you didn't want to re-encode.

[Pdaman]

holy ****! this is awesome player.. it will play a lot smoother than any other movie player for palm os! :eek: how hell this can be true? i did test it on my th55..

[junglemike]

Hey, check out 0.63.
It has file open dialog, audio boost, brightness , contrast, AAC support and many more.

[jjesusfreak01]

Hey, check out 0.63.
It has file open dialog, audio boost, brightness , contrast, AAC support and many more.
Hey, thanks for the update. I saw your name beside the thread, and I thought, "UPDATE".

[lmame]

This new version is great, you can tweak audio, video, speed, browse folders and Memory cards... But in the VZ90 it remains still in 320x320, no possibility to go fullscreen :(

[valclierie]

An awesome software that works reasonably well even on my TH55!! I can't believe the 123MHz is so powerful!

Thanks Picard!

[SubWaY]

havent tested it yet but i thought id let u all know if u didnt already lol :D :rolleyes:

[lmame]

The VZ90 is now well handled thanks to picard hard work ;)

[stefe]

does it work for the T5? and will it see files on the internal storage card?

[okinox]

ver 0.63 works fine on the first install with landscape mode in my nz90.
absolutely the best player i've ever tested.
some little bugs remains. Hopefully 0.64 will be better with a skin support.
Sounds are not resuming after pause and play action while video is playing normally. One should reload the file to make it normal. 480*320 divx or xvid in full screen landscape mode in 15fps 250~300 kbs work fine with 200 mhz Xscale.
I get %105 on that file. no dropped frames. Superb.
High resolution 25 fps droppes frames :( (0.64? or overclocking?)
But thanks for the valueable job...

[STBXXL]

Just discovered that Picard posted version 0.64c (http://corecodec.org/frs/?group_id=53) . Amongst other (to be discovered) new features and bug fixes it now shows the playing time (and if you click on the time it changes to remaining time). Very slick. :D

Cheers.

[treffmeister]

yeah, it is awesome, continually getting better!

[Romans8:38]

I just used IC5 to convert a movie which took 235mb of my 238mb available space and it plays fine on the TH55 movie player but totally choppy on this one. I had no problem playing the matrix fight scene and the other clips on this thread except for that long one. I only have a 256mb card. Maybe its because it needs a larger "hard drive" to work with on longer clips?

[Vishalca]

Where can I download the Matrix test video? Thanks in advance.

[jjesusfreak01]

Where can I download the Matrix test video? Thanks in advance.
Download site (Betaplayer.corecodec.org)

[kev7676]

I really like TCPMP, but miss having my Clie remote work with it like with movie player/FullMoviePlayer. After thinking about it for awhile, I remembered an application I used before AeroPlayer had the remote control feature built into it.

Remote4Joy, by Igor Nesterov, works fairly well with TCPMP, even in full screen mode.

Thread: http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49891&page=1&pp=15&highlight=Remote4Joy

Download: http://www.palmoid.com/remote4joy

Here are the mappings I used for it:

Play - select
Stop - select
FR - left
FF - right
down/up - down/up

[Cyker]

Wow... this proggy is pretty cool alright - It manages to get very good FPS on my TH55, and as far as I can tell it doesn't even use the DSP to do the decoding!

I hope this gets added later 'tho - It would give the playback a boost...!

[schandir]

I downloaded the .64c version and i am not getting any sound on my NZ90... Is it still undergoing testing or do i need to do something inorder to get sound? I am trying to play a clip that i already have in my nz. It is a .mqv file.

[jjesusfreak01]

Wow... this proggy is pretty cool alright - It manages to get very good FPS on my TH55, and as far as I can tell it doesn't even use the DSP to do the decoding!

I hope this gets added later 'tho - It would give the playback a boost...!
You know that isnt going to happen, though we all would like it.

[snark]

I downloaded the .64c version and i am not getting any sound on my NZ90... Is it still undergoing testing or do i need to do something inorder to get sound? I am trying to play a clip that i already have in my nz. It is a .mqv file. You'll have to install MCA (http://www.aibohack.com/clie/modclieaud.htm) to have sound on a NZ http://www.1src.com/forums/images/smilie/images/smilies/smile.gif .

[schandir]

You'll have to install MCA (http://www.aibohack.com/clie/modclieaud.htm) to have sound on a NZ http://www.1src.com/forums/images/smilie/images/smilies/smile.gif .

Alright i went to the site and followed the instructions and went back to play the clip and still no sound... Help Please...

[Cyker]

You know that isnt going to happen, though we all would like it.

Well it's possible to do it for MP4, MPG and MQV at least, using relatively little code; We know this from CP's player...

They'd have to add an extra codepath in, but I'm sure it could be done...
That'd also open up possibilities for Zod gear, although the DRM crap will be a hurdle, stopping this proggy accessing the Zod DSPs...

[jjesusfreak01]

Well it's possible to do it for MP4, MPG and MQV at least, using relatively little code; We know this from CP's player...

They'd have to add an extra codepath in, but I'm sure it could be done...
That'd also open up possibilities for Zod gear, although the DRM crap will be a hurdle, stopping this proggy accessing the Zod DSPs...
Oh that! Well yeah, that can be done, but Picard says he isnt going to do it, so unless the plugin architexture will allow for someone to write a plugin that will work with that, we are out of luck.

[Cyker]

Oh that! Well yeah, that can be done, but Picard says he isnt going to do it, so unless the plugin architexture will allow for someone to write a plugin that will work with that, we are out of luck.
Aww :(
Where/when did he say he wasn't going to do that? Is it because it would mung up the code too much?
Ahh well... I always got FMP and MoviePlayer I guess ;)

Still... I wonder how he got the decoding engine so tight...?
Must be some seriously optimised ARM assembly, having seen mmplayer's attempts to play things on my TH55...!

[jjesusfreak01]

Aww :(
Where/when did he say he wasn't going to do that? Is it because it would mung up the code too much?
Ahh well... I always got FMP and MoviePlayer I guess ;)

Still... I wonder how he got the decoding engine so tight...?
Must be some seriously optimised ARM assembly, having seen mmplayer's attempts to play things on my TH55...!
Where would be my PM box. I asked him about it that way.

[Romans8:38]

I have 3 questions and some comments. I have a TH55
1-What is the best conversion method to see high quality videos on TCPMP?
I've only tried FairuseWizard direct to card transfer and IC 1.5. BTW IC 1.5 took an avi file I had converted with FairuseWiz to 225mb, and Ic 1.5 made it larger so that it would not fit an a 256 mb memory stick. I stopped IC 1.5 which took over 1/2 hour to do that and I simply dragged the file to the MS via card reader which took 3 miniutes and now I have over 3 hours of complete Lord of the Rings "Return of the King" on one 256 mb card. Quality of video is not that great but viewable and sound is fine. I used 96 for audio and 225 for video. I don't get it.
2-If my avi file is only 225 mb how can IC 1.5 convert it so that only half of it would fit on a 256mb card?
3-I just ordered a 1gb stick and would like to know what settings I need to get a real nice picture? Preferrably on Fairuse since it is really the simplest method I have seen and don't know if any others can do a better job. I am also willing to dish out some$ if it is going to give me better results in less time.

Thank. this is really the best site

[winexprt]

I downloaded the .64c version and i am not getting any sound on my NZ90... Is it still undergoing testing or do i need to do something inorder to get sound? I am trying to play a clip that i already have in my nz. It is a .mqv file.

I have the same problem with .64c on my TH55. No sound whatsoever. :(

[Cyker]

0.64c works okay on my TH55.

Did you check your sound settings? Maybe the prefs got shafted and it's sound decoding got disabled somehow?


As for the AVI->MQV in IC1.5 thing; If the original file was ~90kbps audio and 225kbps video, that's probably why IC1.5 made it bigger:
By default, IC1.5 makes things 128kbps audio and 386kbps video, which results in good quality but large files.
I've hacked mine to make 48kbps mono audio streams which helps, but altering the video bit rate made things look really crap. (Curiously, IC1 seems to produce noticebly better video output at a given bitrate than IC1.5 - A qualitative test I did on the Red vs Blue and Legorsika videos showed the IC1.5 being a lot less sharp and with more compression artefacts (artifacts?) than IC1 at a given bitrate...?)

[schandir]

tried everything i could have and still no sound... Should i get a different version of the player or something?

[JJF01]

tried everything i could have and still no sound... Should i get a different version of the player or something?
Have you tried a different type of file? Its possible you are using a file w/ the wrong type of audio. If you can get it to work w/ a different file type, this is the case.

[Romans8:38]

Thanks for the response Cyker. Do you know what the largest setting is that I can use for the TH55 so that I can see it on a full screen?

[Pdaman]

Does UMDH affect to this video player performance?
If it does add 20-30% performance to mmplayer then it may boost this player!

Comments?

[jjesusfreak01]

Does UMDH affect to this video player performance?
If it does add 20-30% performance to mmplayer then it may boost this player!

Comments?
This player is highly memory optimized. For devices with less memory, it will help more. BTW, version .65 is out. All of the codecs are separated into plugins, so you only have to install what you want, plus ZLauncher can launch them off of your expansion card.

[Tremor]

can it play .wmv files or must they be converted first? if so, how can i convert?

[jjesusfreak01]

can it play .wmv files or must they be converted first? if so, how can i convert?
Almost every converter
ffmpeg
virtualdubmod
image converter
and many others...

[Romans8:38]

TCPMP has been working great on my th55. I downloaded .65 and now I get full screen and it's great. However on my nx80 I do not get any sound. Same 1gb MS. I also have "finding nemo" on the same MS as an IC 1.5 conversion which works and sounds fine using Clie movie player on the NX80 and the TH55.
Why am I not getting sound on the nx80?

[snark]

Did you install MCA2?

[Romans8:38]

Pls refresh my memoryu. I don't recall installing that for the th55. If you say I need it where do I find it. thanks

[picard]

Pls refresh my memoryu. I don't recall installing that for the th55. If you say I need it where do I find it. thanks
NX80 has an older Palm OS version which needs this additional utility to support sound playback with most third party programs.
http://www.aibohack.com/clie/modclieaud.htm

[Romans8:38]

Thanks again Picard. I did as you suggested. Everything accroding to the instructions but still no sound. FMP and Clie movie player work fine and I get sound but not TCPMP. Do u think I need to do a hard reset? Maybe something else is conflicting?

[picard]

Check and uncheck 'disable audio decoding' in Pref/Audio dialog of TCPMP. If that doesn't help, I don't know what the problem is :(

[Romans8:38]

Are there any NX80 users who are having or not having the same problem?

[Romans8:38]

Picard,
Thanks again for your help. I found the solution. I still don't know what the problem was. perhaps you would understand it better.
I posted on the NX forum to see if anyone had a similar problem. Knank responded that his fix was to delete MCA2 and TCPMP. Then do a soft reset and then reinstall both apps and activate MCA2. I don't know the reasoning behind it but "it worked".
This is an fyi because it is a great application and you may get questions from other NX users.
Take a look at my post if you like.

Thanks for a great app.

[TCT]

All I have to say is GET THIS KILLER APP!!

It makes a rookie like me look like a pro!!

( thanks to junglemike's guide!! )

It plays extremly well on my Zire 71

[rudymc]

Can anyone else with the UX-50 provide with the best settings and file size recommended for optimum play on the UX-50. I have tried 234 MB total size and the following settings:

Width 304
Height 160
Bitrate 64 kbps
Audio MPEG Layer 3
Frame Rate 23 fps
Data Rate 33 kbps
Video Sample 12 bit
Video Compression XVID

The above video plays well, but it is a little choppy. I have a 1 GB memory stick. Any recommendations (especially those with instructions) are greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[picard]

Can anyone else with the UX-50 provide with the best settings and file size recommended for optimum play on the UX-50.
Did you try the test version with sonyhhe plugin? I'am little behind with releasing a new version, but the hhe plugin with 2d acceleration support should already work.

http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test

[rudymc]

Thanks. I deleted the program and reinstalled all the components. It now works great. The 236 MB files look really good.

Rudy

[Cyker]

Picard: Downloads are a bit slow; You having server trouble?
If you want, you can set up a Torrent feed. I'm sure lots of people wouldn't mind seeding it since it basically is the most kickass multimedia app on PalmOS ;)

[picard]

Picard: Downloads are a bit slow; You having server trouble?
I have no clue :) I'am not the admin and I can access the server fast (from Hungary). Probably the problem is with the international connection, if it's not fixed I will contact the admin (because of the sample movie files the picard.exceed.hu subsite has about 3GB/day traffic, the stats will show if there is problem...)

[Sparx]

Picard - THANK YOU for all your time and info.

I have a T5 and do a lot of travelling for work. To finally have something that reallly allows me to watch what I want when I want, with a great picture quality and sound is just awesome. This app (and a couple of 1 GB SD cards), really is what makes the T5 and other PDAs' more than just a digital diary.

Also would like to tip my hat to you and all the people who take the time to share news and info. We are all busy people. Being able to benefit from other peoples experience should never be underestimated.

We are all better people for your efforts.

[bunbuns]

WOW!

Just converted a anime episode. Not only is the video resoultion higher but the files are smaller than created by IC5 and much smaller than Kinoma 2 Cinepak created files (kinoma 3 is horridly slow on a nz90 for some reason).

Basilisk ~ Kouga Ninpou Chou ~ 6
Length 23:34
Video : DivX Mpeg-4 Fast Motion (DivXc32f.dll)
Audio : Mp3 64kbps 24000khz Stereo
Framerate: 23.99
Resoultion: 480x270
Size: 52Megs (90Megs in IC5 and 350megs in Kinoma)
PDA: Sony NZ90 200Mhz(@300Mhz)
Storage: 2GIG Sandisk Memory Stick Pro

Full speed almost not framerate drops. The Quality & speed is amazing, i espeically like the the ability to change the contrast, brightness, saturation, dither, stereo/mono; options which are not included in Kinoma or Movie Player.
I used VirtuaDub 1.6.3 to convert, Pocket Divx Encoder looks better for doing large batch conversions and has ogg support

I tried the clip it its native format unconverted and it still worked fine, with a 400+Mhz PDA with overclocking i can see us being able to play a lot of DivX videos without having to do any conversion at all.

Keep up the good work! :)

[SubWaY]

What are the best settings for the zodiac, thanks

[Timy_T]

On my TH55 , landscape mode doesn't work with the landscape utility after installing the newest testbuild, only reverse Landscape is working.
Some testbuild ago, everything was alright.

Tim

[jjesusfreak01]

On my TH55 , landscape mode doesn't work with the landscape utility after installing the newest testbuild, only reverse Landscape is working.
Some testbuild ago, everything was alright.

Tim
Go into the settings, and make sure you have follow GUI checked.

[Timy_T]

That does not work. Follow GUI crashed my Palm, when I switch Landscape with the Landscape tool.
But I want to use the build in landscape mode of the video player, not the Landscape tool. It was possible earlier just by tapping on "Full", but if i do this now, the video stopps. Only reverse landscape works.

Tim

[jjesusfreak01]

That does not work. Follow GUI crashed my Palm, when I switch Landscape with the Landscape tool.
But I want to use the build in landscape mode of the video player, not the Landscape tool. It was possible earlier just by tapping on "Full", but if i do this now, the video stopps. Only reverse landscape works.

Tim
Are you running Landscape 1.1b? Picard has it programmed to work best with this version, although you are using TCPMP rotation. Also, make sure you have the latest version of TCPMP. If your video is too large it can also cause this problem.

[Timy_t]

Well, I am using the newest versions of both programms. Fullscreen was working in one of the latest testbuild, though I do not know which was the last one it worked with. Now, only reverse landscape is working. As I said, I do not use the landscape fuction of the landscape tool (tapping the clock). I tried changing the settings of the landscape tool, but without success.

Tim

[picard]

jjesusfreak01: Does Landscape work on your TH55 with the latest player version (example the ARMv5-32K you tested earlier)

There is always the possiblity I broke something. But it would help to know which version worked correctly and which doesn't (you can download the earlier test versions as well, just change the last letter in the URL)

[jjesusfreak01]

jjesusfreak01: Does Landscape work on your TH55 with the latest player version (example the ARMv5-32K you tested earlier)

There is always the possiblity I broke something. But it would help to know which version worked correctly and which doesn't (you can download the earlier test versions as well, just change the last letter in the URL)
I have them all on my MS, so I could tell you, though I am not going to have time to test until later today. I can tell you that I never got a crash in the new versions, but the only landscape playback I used was with benchmarking for the HHE versions.

[junglemike]

Hey guys, meanwhile TCPMP gets better and better. Tons of new stuff has been added, and tons of bugs has been resolved.
But Today Picard added a very interesting feature:


It will enable you play video for hour or more AFTER YOUR BATTERY HAS ENDED!

Yes, as contraversal as it sound- it is true.

In short: after you get critical warning - there is still 30-60% of battery power left, that you unable to use. Now there are 2 programs that can use it: ZdoomZ and TCPMP.
Just make sure , that you make backup, befor you try this version, since , if not stopped, TCPMP will run all the way down to empty battery.

Some T3 users have reported, that T3 can run video for almost hour longer. I'm currently doing my test now.

To find out more about this - see this thread:
http://corecodec.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1567&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
For download:
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/tcpmp.palmos.UNSTABLE.0.65w3.zip

[tgoulart]

I have been testing different versions of this for the past week or so, and have found that anything after UNSTABLE.0.65p will result in significant dropped video frames. This is on the order of 10%.

Watching 3:37 minutes of Mission Impossible Full screen with version p, results in 106 dropped frames out of 5228. My only complaint is that the volume is a bit low for me.

All in all, this is a tremendous player!

[KewlCat]

Cool (I've always been looking for an app that could "really" empty the batteries), but... How can TCPMP still play a movie if the OS disables access to the Memory Stick ?

[junglemike]

How can TCPMP still play a movie if the OS disables access to the Memory Stick ?
It doesn't disable access. Try for yourself and see.
Unbelievable!!!
I finished my test, and i've got 3 HOURS 39 MINUTES OF VIDEO PLAY _AFTER_ LOW BATTERY
which is 80% increase for me.

[KewlCat]

It doesn't disable access. Try for yourself and see.
Unbelievable!!!I saw : it stops playing when the battery level goes under 10%, only without the usual "low bettery" warning.
Even if I try to re-activate the tweak (push power button, select Battery Manager Override, press play) it stops...

[Timy_T]

Hello,

I just want to say, that landscape works again for me with testversion "x".

But I have one glitch (not bad enough for a real problem). When I choose "Fit Hight", some videos have black boarders on top and on bottom. In these borders I can see remains of the former parts of the image shown on screen (the menu, the buttons). So the borders are not completely black. This doens't prevent the video from playing but it is a little bit disturbing.

Tim

[picard]

I saw : it stops playing when the battery level goes under 10%, only without the usual "low bettery" warning.
You mean the Memory Stick was turn off during the player was in Battery manager override mode? In this case there is not much the player can do, battery level is checked probably at some hardware level.

[picard]

But I have one glitch (not bad enough for a real problem). When I choose "Fit Hight", some videos have black boarders on top and on bottom.
How big are these top and bottom borders? Example compared to the 2 pixel width outer white border?

[Timy_T]

The video I tested with had a resolution of 480x270, so the black boarders where 25 Pixels each. Some parts of this boarders where not black as they should be but contained parts of the buttons and menues of the video player.
The video itself was playing correctly.

Tim

[picard]

The video I tested with had a resolution of 480x270, so the black boarders where 25 Pixels each.
But if you selected 'fit height' it should have been scaled so that the 270pixel is filling the 320pixel height screen (and some left and right part of the 480pixel is clipped).

[Timy_T]

Okay, I guess I have selected "Fit Width" for this problem.

Tim

[picard]

Do you know from which version were the buttons/titlebar not erased?

[Timy_T]

I think they have never been erased, but I cannot say for sure, because I have allways played the videos with "Fit best", so that the full screen was filled with the video.

Tim

[tosbsas]

Can you install it and all the plugins on a card in one folder and run it from there??

Ruben

[beemgee]

Can you install it and all the plugins on a card in one folder and run it from there??

YES - Palm/Launcher

[tosbsas]

Goood - thanks

you mean palm/launcher/TCMP or only one level palm/launcher

Ruben

[KewlCat]

You mean the Memory Stick was turn off during the player was in Battery manager override mode?Exactly.
In this case there is not much the player can do, battery level is checked probably at some hardware level.Too bad indeed. No wonder the TH-55 has a very long running time... (but the last days are without WiFi, BlueTooth, Memory Stick, and then backlight...)

[Adrenochrome]

The player is incredible. Love the speed and resolution on it - works flawlessly on the Life Drive.

One stupid quesion - I downloaded a movie that is 700mb. It's in AVI and plays perfectly. But 700mb is a lot of room to hog, even on an LD. Is there a way to convert an AVI file to something smaller without losing frame rate or resolution (or at least drop the resolution down to just 480x320).

Thanks in advance!

[Cheney]

Do you know from which version were the buttons/titlebar not erased?
I've noticed that if the value video hight/4 was a integer, the problem goes away. so we need to check each video's hight before converting it :(

[noktoto]

The player is incredible. Love the speed and resolution on it - works flawlessly on the Life Drive.

One stupid quesion - I downloaded a movie that is 700mb. It's in AVI and plays perfectly. But 700mb is a lot of room to hog, even on an LD. Is there a way to convert an AVI file to something smaller without losing frame rate or resolution (or at least drop the resolution down to just 480x320).

Thanks in advance!

Try VirtualDub, it's free:
www.virtualdub.org

You may need some codecs, visit this site:
www.free-codecs.com

[picard]

I've noticed that if the value video hight/4 was a integer, the problem goes away. so we need to check each video's hight before converting it :(
Thanks. I will try it with a height not multiple of four pixels. Hopefully I will find the bug.

[this_way_up]

Try VirtualDub, it's free:
www.virtualdub.org

You may need some codecs, visit this site:
www.free-codecs.com

or even one better try better (once you download above) UMC - Unlogic Movie convertor (http://unlogic.no-ip.biz/umc/)

A really simple foolproof prog to convert divx/xvids quickly with fewer mouse presses. download some more profiles for your needs at the site PLUS ITS FREE !!!!!!