Shortcut Key Question

[.PoNeH]

Well, I'm wondering what the heck the little slanted line with a dot at the end means...

http://home.cfl.rr.com/akarol/images/Shortcut Key.JPG

...I know this is a newb question, don't hate!

[Sharkk717]

it's a shortcut... do a swipe from the sb outwards to get the Command Bar to appear, then make a graffiti R.

regards, sharky

[Sharkk717]

ps: or type an R on the keyboard after popping up the command bar

regards, sharky

[Baro Rom]

this symbol is a palm control commant to use for in the draw input field. draw it there and then the according letter to use the shortcut. it´s like the windows shordcuts, "ctrl d" for xmpl.

[Baro Rom]

oops, too late.

[.PoNeH]

Ah, got it working...lol...thank you guys. What I don't understand is that it kind of defeats the purpose of not need a stylus. Is there another method of activating the Command Bar?

[Sharkk717]

sharkbtn lol. also KeyQuick, and I believe (don't quote me on this) that there is a built-in key combo on the ux keyboard for activating the cmdbar

regards, sharky

[.PoNeH]

Found it, it's CTRL + T. Thanks a lot sharky!

[antoinepierre]

1/ Could I suggest to try "Ctrl + K", you will see all the build-in short cuts.

2/ poneh, in your example, there is no need to pop up the command bar, just type "R". (I use keyquick, I don't know if it is important).

[.PoNeH]

I don't understant KeyQuick at all...has anyone successfully made a manual for it?

[antoinepierre]

I don't understant KeyQuick at all...has anyone successfully made a manual for it?Euuh, yes, I have done it, in french. :o .

You can :
- learn french to read my, small, users guide. The link is in my signature.
- learn japanese to read the original version.
- DON'T learn english :) , the english users guide has been translated with Babelfish and no one can understand.
- Be patient, I'll try to translate what I've done. Please note that the result could be worst than a translation with babelfish.

[.PoNeH]

Have you tried BabelFish'ing your guide to see if it'll work better?

BTW...why should I learn French? English is more widely used. I already know 3 languages: English, Portuguese, Spanish. That's enough.

[antoinepierre]

I've tried babelfish to translate English->French, the result is a mix of funny and strange. I think the reverse translation will be the same.
BTW...why should I learn French?..To read my thread about KeyQuick ! :) :D :p ;)

[.PoNeH]

lolol...translate it man...cmon! :(

[antoinepierre]

OK, begining of the result next week !
Ready for fifth dimension ? (I'm talking about my english :D )

[.PoNeH]

So you're going to translated it? WEEE! We love you!

[cktlcmd]

The only thing I am familiar with keyquick is assigning simulated taps to key board presses. Aside from that I could not figure out the other functions of keyquick.

[.PoNeH]

What do you mean?

[cktlcmd]

I use keyquick to simulate a tap on the upper left corner to bring down the menu of an application (usual place in most programs). With the menu shown I can now use the jog dial to scroll down or up. I can use the arrow keys to go left or right. I can use the back button to select. So basically, I assigned crtl 3 for this, which is a lot easier than getting the stylus and tapping at the upper left corner of the screen to bring down the menu. So to summarize, Keyquick basically replaces the use of the stylus and makes use of the available keyboards full functionality.

[.PoNeH]

Pretty, sweet, you could also have it register the tap above the home button on the bottom right also, right? How do I do such a thing?

[cktlcmd]

OK, here is a crash course on how to setup screen tap using KeyQuick.

Things to remember:

1) The X coordinate (from upper left corner to upper right corner of the screen) correspond to 0 - 240.

2) The Y coordinate (from upper left corner to lower left corner of the screen) correspond to 0 - 160.

Armed with this knowledge, you basically plot a point to the designated place you want to simulate a screen tap.

Here is a useful example that I think you would want to keep:

1) Go to KeyQuick.
2) Press "ADD". It will prompt you to press a key. Press "0".
3) Select "Ctrl".
4) Assign: "Screen Tap"
5) Select "Coordinates".
6) Start pos "TopLeft"
7) Xpos: 80
8) Ypos: 80

In this example you just assigned the number "0" to simulate a screen tap at those coordinates. Now here is how it is useful. Go to hotsync application and simply press "ctrl 0".

Tell me what you think. :)

[antoinepierre]

I use keyquick to simulate a tap on the upper left corner to bring down the menu of an application (usual place in most programs). With the menu shown I can now use the jog dial to scroll down or up. I can use the arrow keys to go left or right. I can use the back button to select. So basically, I assigned crtl 3 for this, which is a lot easier than getting the stylus and tapping at the upper left corner of the screen to bring down the menu. So to summarize, Keyquick basically replaces the use of the stylus and makes use of the available keyboards full functionality.Christian, no need to use KeyQuick extent for this.
Remember to read what you see in "Ctrl+K", before creating a new shortcut.
Ctrl+M is standard and opens the menu. If you have keyquick basic "ON", you can navigate inside this menu with the 4 arrows and valid with "enter".

I think that if you want to use the the coordonates of a place, your screen is 160x160. Not 240x160.
When you choosed Ctrl+0 to make a click on hotsync logo, this logo is in the middle of a square screen. You choosed X=80 and Y=80, which is the center of a 160x160 screen.

[cktlcmd]

Christian, no need to use KeyQuick extent for this.
Remember to read what you see in "Ctrl+K", before creating a new shortcut.
Ctrl+M is standard and opens the menu. If you have keyquick basic "ON", you can navigate inside this menu with the 4 arrows and valid with "enter".

Thanks for this tip. Now I can free one of my number keys for more key assignments. I forgot about that ctrl K function. :)

[.PoNeH]

Wow Christian, thanks a bunch. I will be able to make full use of the keyboard now. What about those numerous menus in KeyQuick...with Jog Repeate, and what not, I don't understand those.

[cktlcmd]

Wow Christian, thanks a bunch. I will be able to make full use of the keyboard now. What about those numerous menus in KeyQuick...with Jog Repeate, and what not, I don't understand those.

As I mentioned above, this is the only function of KeyQuick I was able to master. The other functions we have to wait for the translation. Sorry.

[Kappa]

Did someone manage to map the portrait app tap area on the stauts bur to a key combination? I played around for quite some time but I just can't get it. To me it seems the status bar area cannot be tapped the way Christian described. I tried coordinates starting from 0,0 (got the menu all right) to 220,0 (got the brightness, if the virtual graffiti area was open) but when I went to 230 and 240, nothing happened. I tried [230-235],[0-10-20-30-60-70-80-90] but these combinations didn't do anything, even though I expected them to be tapping onto the buttons on the status bar.

Anybody with more luck than me?

Thx, k

[Edlin]

I use keyquick so I can hold down the jog wheel to equal tapping a dialog (eg hold down to press the OKAY button).

[antoinepierre]

Did someone manage to map the portrait app tap area on the stauts bar to a key combination? ...It's not possible.

1/ what function do you want ?
2/ basically KQ is made for TG50, NOT UX50. :o

[Kappa]

It's not possible.

1/ what function do you want ?
2/ basically KQ is made for TG50, NOT UX50. :o

Hi antoinepierre,

1/ it would be great if I could rotate the screen by pressing a key combination (e.g. Ctrl+S for switch screen orientation between portrait and landscape) -- for that I tried to map the area on the status bar where I now tap with the stylus to rotate the screen
2/ I see -- that could explain it.

Thanks for the help!

Cheers, k

[antoinepierre]

Hi antoinepierre,

1/ it would be great if I could rotate the screen by pressing a key combination (e.g. Ctrl+S for switch screen orientation between portrait and landscape) -- for that I tried to map the area on the status bar where I now tap with the stylus to rotate the screen...I don't use portrait/landscape application. :o

Is there another way to rotate the screen than a click on the status bar ?

Edit : I've found something called : "Exifrotator" :eek: , I don't know what is his use, you can try.
It is in : keyquick extent/Assign:Launch/Appl.

[Kappa]

I don't use portrait/landscape application. :o

Is there another way to rotate the screen than a click on the status bar ?

Edit : I've found something called : "Exifrotator" :eek: , I don't know what is his use, you can try.
It is in : keyquick extent/Assign:Launch/Appl.

Thanks for the tip!! I tried it but then I didn't see much change except for a flick of the screen so this seems to be something different. (Also, I did a quick google and ExifRotator came up on several Sony and Clie sites so it might be the related to the built-in rotation when you flip the screen. Still, thanks for spending the time and looking into it!

As for the screen rotation, the Mobile Stream Portrait App only offers the click on the status bar. There might be a new version coming out where there might be a chance they change this so then I might revisit the issue.

Thanks anyway, k

[cktlcmd]

I think that if you want to use the the coordonates of a place, your screen is 160x160. Not 240x160.
When you choosed Ctrl+0 to make a click on hotsync logo, this logo is in the middle of a square screen. You choosed X=80 and Y=80, which is the center of a 160x160 screen.

I am not sure what you meant, but I have been using those rules to plot a point and never had any problems.

Basically this is how my screen should be looked at everytime I want to plot a point:


0----------80----------160----------240
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80---------80----------160----------240
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160--------80----------160----------240


I was correct when I chose 80x80 since the hotsync logo is in that area, as you can clearly see on my drawing. You are correct by stating that it is the intersection of the 160x160 screen, which is where the logo is, that is why I chose 80x80. So I am not sure what you meant. The area 160 to 240 is where the collapsable grafitti are and status bar is.

The actual UX resolution is 480x320, but for some reason, KeyQuick looks at the UX screen as 240x160.

[antoinepierre]

I don't use the coordinate way to click on a point so I'm not sure of what I say.
I'll make a test before posting a short manuel on KQ.

I've made a search and some say that, for KQ, the screen is 160x160, some other say it is 240x160.
Because of the TG50 origin of KQ, I believe in 160x160.

To believe is not to be sure...
Let's make a test.

Edit: I've made a test and get the same result than Kappa.
The coordinates way works till 223x0 (you can get brightness when the graffiti zone is up) but refuse to make something if I want to use 224 (and over)x0 coordonates. Origin of (X,Y) was top left.

[cktlcmd]

Edit: I've made a test and get the same result than Kappa.
The coordinates way works till 220x160 (you can get brightness when the graffiti zone is up) but refuse to make something if I want to use 225 (and so on)x160 coordonates.

Thanks for this information. :) So basically, your conclusion is: KeyQuick can map simulated screen taps on 220x160, excluding the status bar. :)


This is what I like about this site, you learn something new everyday. :D

[antoinepierre]

So basically, your conclusion is...So basically my conclusion is...(AFAIK)
- If you consider that your screen is 160x160 and if the origin of (X,Y) is up left. It works ! :) (remember that KQ was made for TG50)
- If you want to use X>223, it doesn't work. => You cannot click in the status bar. :(
- For ALL the rest : let's try and let's see the result ! ;) .

[Kappa]

I don't use the coordinate way to click on a point so I'm not sure of what I say.
I'll make a test before posting a short manuel on KQ.

I've made a search and some say that, for KQ, the screen is 160x160, some other say it is 240x160.
Because of the TG50 origin of KQ, I believe in 160x160.

To believe is not to be sure...
Let's make a test.

Edit: I've made a test and get the same result than Kappa.
The coordinates way works till 223x0 (you can get brightness when the graffiti zone is up) but refuse to make something if I want to use 224 (and over)x0 coordonates. Origin of (X,Y) was top left.

Thanks for the effort, Antoinepierre, we seem to get to the same conclusion, unfortunately. Kinda sad and strange that the mapping stops at 224 but there's still hope that the final version of the portrait app will enable a shortcut or will show up in the Apps list of KQ. Thanks for cross checking for me!

[antoinepierre]

... Thanks for cross checking for me!You're welcome ! ;)