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Ion Control
04-08-2005, 03:00 PM
...but everytime I use it for more than 2 days, I find out how much squandered potential it has and how it actually makes organizing HARDER, so I go back to the old die-hards.

The first time it was speed. It takes 1-2 seocnds to load. May not seem like much, but when you're in a hurry, that loading time, coupled with time spent saving changes, etc is maddening.

The second time, it was the inability to directly edit appointments from the alarm screen. Clicking "Go to" took me to the day, not the appointment, so I had to click on the appt, load it, change it, save, etc. Ug

The third time, it was the fact that I couldn't just click on a time and write. I had to create a new appointment, open the time dialog and use that terrible two-column thing to make an appt, then save, etc.

And today...? I had 3 appointments within 20 minutes of each other. I had the day view on the "4 lines/hour" setting and, of course, NONE of the appointments was readable. They were all offset left/right like outlook (only Outlook typicall runs on a 1024x768 resolution, so it works).

Good old datebook:
1. Click on a time and write (set it exactly later if you want)
2. Go directly to the appointment to edit it from the alarm screen
3. Loads almost imemdiately
4. New times are created on the left column for closely scheduled appts. brackets let you know when appts overlap.
5. Larger font and it still shows more info.

Geez, Clié botched this up. I want to like it, I really do, but functionality for something as vital as a datebook takes precedence over looks. I can enjoy looking at it but still have no useful information. Shame on you Clie

(Oh, and CO Addressbook? How about the fact that it truncates the LAST name in view, so I get "Thomp..., Steph" for "Thompson, Stephen" in "thumbnail mode" and "Thomps..., Stephe" in list mode. The old Contacts shows it just fine)

wellsjs
04-08-2005, 03:36 PM
ARGH! I WANT to love CO, I really do... Go ahead . . . be a one-of-a-kind! :D

daver
04-08-2005, 05:09 PM
i agree, i don't love it. i just use it becuase it's free, and the tabs show up in Appshelf

Munan
04-08-2005, 05:10 PM
It really is all in how you use it.
For me, it's so much like my old Day Runner that the few extra seconds don't bother me.
Personally, I love CO. I switched back from Agendus.... :)

But I can definitely appreciate that it's not for everyone.

daver
04-08-2005, 05:15 PM
But I can definitely appreciate that it's not for everyone.
i definiitely agree with Munan here: it's kinda hit or miss with people. either you like it or not, there's no maybe i can use it for XYZ, but i definitely won't use it for ABC.

ion control, it seems that you're syncing Outlook with CO.. how'd you do that? im' desparate as i had to import everything from Outlook to CO desktop, and it took a LONG time. :P. would you mind explaining how you got your Outlook stuff into CO for me? that is, IF you are syncing Outlook data with CO. thanks!!!

olderTechnology
04-08-2005, 05:23 PM
Agree totally with the original post, Ion Control.

Each of the individual apps, with the possible exception of the ToDo list, has at least one fatal flaw when compared with the "classic" Palm apps.

Just the other day, I abandoned the last vestiges of using the CO. I'm pure Palm now.

LupeValenz
04-08-2005, 09:11 PM
Sorry to hear bout that :(. I for one am in love with CO and use it in conjuction with TodayPLUS. The speed for me isn't too bad, I'm in never any rush to see an appointment in 2 secs. I like to always compare what my Clie Organizer is replacing, and thats not another PDA, but my daytime paper organizer. I was always on the lookout for a great organizer just like the daytimer organizer, and with CO, it brought it to me, with the ability to write on the days, post sticky notes on them and more ^_^. This is the one PDA where I am happy not to get a 3rd party app to fulfill my PIM needs.

Ion Control
04-08-2005, 09:27 PM
Daver, I'm honestly not sure. I think CO and Datebook share the same database, don't they? I just assumed this is what happened. Sync with Datebook and it shows up in CO. Right...?

yonghuming
04-09-2005, 11:28 PM
Try to disable (uncheck) Show Contents Icon from CO's DateBook Menu.
Try to use Stickers (instead of MS pics, movies and sounds).
Now you come to faster CO.

Ion Control
04-10-2005, 09:55 AM
Yeah, I've been doing that since Day 1. I can't imagine how slow CO would be with those options checked. I've got almost every "bell and whistle" in Co turned off and the load time (for the program and for editing appointments) is still measured in whole seconds... It's just way too slow. OTOH, all those people who said it's faster than paper are quite right, so I see that viewpoint. I've just never used paper (never was organized until Outlook and my first Palm IIIe :D )

Skaah
04-10-2005, 11:51 AM
Try to disable (uncheck) Show Contents Icon from CO's DateBook Menu.
Try to use Stickers (instead of MS pics, movies and sounds).
Now you come to faster CO.
So, not using part of the software is a solution? That's more like a work-around. If Sony cannot include a feature in a decent way, it should not have been there. User interface / usability is the most important thing on such a small screen.

strider_mt2k
04-10-2005, 06:38 PM
I have hated CO from day one.
It would be fine on a device with the horsepower to actually pull it off, but the TH55 ain't it.
I almost get the feeling (monday morning QB) that CO was developed for devices the Sony Clie folks found out weren't coming, but pushed out with the TH55 to make it more attractive. (I thought CO looked cool when I first saw it.)

I was already a ZLauncher owner from when I ran my SJ33, and later bought DB5, although I could probably do without IT in retrospect as I don't use most of it's features.

yonghuming
04-10-2005, 09:46 PM
Yeah, I've been doing that since Day 1. I can't imagine how slow CO would be with those options checked. I've got almost every "bell and whistle" in Co turned off and the load time (for the program and for editing appointments) is still measured in whole seconds... It's just way too slow. OTOH, all those people who said it's faster than paper are quite right, so I see that viewpoint. I've just never used paper (never was organized until Outlook and my first Palm IIIe :D )

I don't know how many pics or movies on your MS, but sure that too many of those will greatly affect the speed of CO. I just want to remind you of it.
For the 1st day of TH55, there is one thing I must do: UPGRADE my CO.

Palm itself is just a platform, everything I mounted needs WORKAROUND till it rocks.

I admited CO is not fast, but just adjust it.

daver
04-11-2005, 11:11 AM
if you don't want the MS, sticks, stuff to load, just hit the black button on the far left, the one that points down. doing that retracts the little media preview area, and you have nothing but PIM stuff left available. it works for me.