1src Forums - Compiled list of JackFlash compatable apps

Silverback

03-24-2003, 08:19 AM

Hello all!

OK, maybe I have too much time on my hands (or quite possibly a little nuts, which is more likely :) ), but I went through the "JackFlash what works what doesn't" thread and came up with a list of what others have said WORKS with JackFlash 3.0bx beta versions.

This in no way should be taken as an endorsement by me and YMMV from the other posters. I just thought it would be convenient for everyone to get an updated list.

My experience with Audio Player is it hung when I moved NetFront to Flash, but worked ok when I moved NetFront back to RAM. Not sure why that was, I only tried it once though.

Here's the list:

4.0 Student
AcidImage (I got the final 2.4 version, not the 2.4r beta)
Agendus
Alarmmaster
ALP
BackupMan
BDicty
BeamPRO 2.1.1
BeamWorks 1.0
BGPack
BibleReader (Olive Tree)
BIP Exchange Library
BIPSharedLibrary
Blazer
Bluetooth Exchange Library
Bluetooth Exchange Library_enUS
Bluetooth Extension
Bluetooth Library
Bluetooth Library_enUS
Bluetooth RfComm Serial Dr_enUS
Bluetooth RfComm Serial Driver
Bluetooth Stack Library
BluetoothPnl
Bonsai
BtAddinLoader
BtTransportBts
Bttr-Panel 0.02 (Battery)
Bubblet
BugMe!
Butterfly 3.6
CFmodemdrvr 1.0
CFmodeminf 1.0
CFNULLinf 1.0
CFUtility 1.0
CFWL100inf 1.0
CFWL100Neti
CFWL100Nppi
Checkbook
CityTime
Clie Demo
CLIEMail 2.0
Clock+
CodeDiver
Colorize
Contacts4
Date Mate
Datebk5 (5.0c prev6)
DateBk5 p7
Datebk5 p8
DateBk5HelpDB
DateMate
DayNotez
DiddleBug
Documents to Go
EasyCalc
eWallet 2.5
eWalletGraphics
eWalletIcons
FileZ
FlashEnable
FontBucket
Graffiti Anywhere (disabled prior to move)
HandBase 3 (3.0i2)
Handstory
Handyshopper
HBForms
HRCaptDA
HRCaptDM
IconMgr
iSilo
Kinoma (freezes first try, retry went fine)
Kinu-maru
ListPro 3
Mapopolis (app, not maps)
MathLib
McFile
McPhling
MegaCalc
MemoPlus
MemoSafe
mEncryptor
Mi: D
MoonPhase (soft reset 1st time, OK 2nd...??)
MoviMAP 1.0
MSDict
MS-Dict
MultiClock
MyBible (app, not Bible versions)
NetFront
OKey (disabled prior to moving)
OnTimeRx
PalmReader
PhotoSkin
Pics to Go
PktQuicken
PowerOne Finance
PowerOne Personal
PowerRun
ProWord (app, not dictionary)
QuickChart
QuickSheet
QuickSpell
Quickword
RepliGo
RsrcEdit 1.017b
Secret
Shadow
SheetToGo
Slap
Smart input
Smartlist
SnapperMail
SpellSmith
SplashID
SplashMoney
SplashShopper
Super Names 2.04 Demo
TealDoc
Tealinfo
TealMaster 2.02
TealPhone
ThoughtManager
TikTok
TimeCopy
TnSilkChange
ToDoPlus
TownCompass Data Viewer
TV Grid Listing (TVGL)
TVBrowser
UltraSoft Money
UnDupe
Uninstall Manager
Verichat
WAClock 1.10
Wassup
Woman (beiks)
Wondersilk 1.25
WordToGo
WorldMate
WS-Aqua-05 (WonderSilk Skin)
WWCalc
YiShow
ZLauncher

Hope this helps.

parmesian

03-24-2003, 08:40 AM

one small correction:

mapopolis maps do work in flash (at least they have for me). you simply have to set the preferences to "Show items that cannot be moved to Flash." then you will see the map databases. when you try to move them to flash it will warn you that it won't work, but it will allow you to force them in. that worked for me. of course, YMMV.

rldunn

03-24-2003, 11:22 AM

And now, AcidImage v2.5r2 and the newest beta of Wordsmith (v2.2.10) also work in Flash. Thanks for compiling the list!!

jimod

03-24-2003, 11:47 AM

datebk 5 works, WOOHOO, biggist dang thing i got on mine

rxmedicine

03-24-2003, 11:28 PM

thanks for compiling the list...this is what i needed...it helps from having to scavenge through all the other threads...appreciate all your efforts...you even alphabetized it too...thanks!!

stevek

03-25-2003, 12:06 AM

bummer that databases won't move. they are by far the largest thing on my PDA.
one thing I noticed the time does not keep updated when the nx is in the cradle. I noticed it was 3 hours off for a few seconds after I turned it on.

Xaositek

03-25-2003, 12:58 AM

AIM 1.0 UK works under Flash as well.

parmesian

03-25-2003, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by stevek
bummer that databases won't move. they are by far the largest thing on my PDA.
one thing I noticed the time does not keep updated when the nx is in the cradle. I noticed it was 3 hours off for a few seconds after I turned it on.
the time keeps updated, but the display only refreshes every few seconds. when it wakes up it still has the old time display set up and until it updates it has the old time.

mikra

03-25-2003, 12:52 PM

Thanks for the work. But wouldn´t it be a good idea to make a compilation of those Apps that do NOT work or cause problems when in flash?
Maybe this list is a bit shorter ;-)

Michael

somas1

03-27-2003, 03:47 PM

Splash Photo does not work in flash?

mrbjg4

04-25-2003, 11:45 PM

megacalc in flash crashes my nx70

waynema

04-26-2003, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by mrbjg4
megacalc in flash crashes my nx70

same here

imadrin

04-27-2003, 06:40 AM

Originally posted by stevek
bummer that databases won't move. they are by far the largest thing on my PDA.
one thing I noticed the time does not keep updated when the nx is in the cradle. I noticed it was 3 hours off for a few seconds after I turned it on.

I got wordnet medium (the 2 mb database for noah lite) to work from flash. put that and a bunch of other things on flash, netfront on the ms with powerrun, and now I have 5 more mb free!

yOyOYoo

05-12-2003, 04:04 AM

MegaCalc works fine with flash.

One question for Netfront, what happens if I don't delete the Cache before exiting the program? Does it mean that the Cache size will go straight into RAM or will it overflood the Flash leading to some sort of crash?

Ni+Mh

05-12-2003, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by waynema

same here

Same here

ncoday

05-12-2003, 08:29 AM

Appreciate you compiling this list as I have been contemplating getting JackFlash to do some work on my NX70V here, only 4Mb left in RAM.

lal2707

05-12-2003, 10:54 AM

Is there a similar list for the MS Pro?

doctor

05-12-2003, 05:33 PM

PalmVNC and Mobipocked Reader 4.5 work fine

n2ifp

05-12-2003, 09:52 PM

Why would you want a list for MS Pro?

Almost anything, with some exceptions, can go into JackFlash that is read only.

It only took a few minutes to fill up 4.5 megs of ROM :(

lal2707

05-13-2003, 03:53 AM

n2ifp - I think I have misunderstood the Jackflash. I am currently only using the MS along the wifi card. If I want to use Jackflash ROM what exactly do I need to do? Can I download the driver from somewhere? How much Mb do you get using this method?

Thanks

PS I thought this was an axtra card I could put in the Clie NX70V

aussie_nx70v

05-13-2003, 10:10 AM

im starting to really like jackflash....

another useful program to make the nx70v an even better unit to have

max memory capacity of the NX70V:

1gb CF compact flash
1gb Sony MS Pro
11mb RAM
4mb Flash ROM

Now thats alot of space ! Tungsten, Zire, Palm......better luck next time

n2ifp

05-13-2003, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by lal2707
n2ifp - I think I have misunderstood the Jackflash. I am currently only using the MS along the wifi card. If I want to use Jackflash ROM what exactly do I need to do? Can I download the driver from somewhere? How much Mb do you get using this method?

Thanks

PS I thought this was an axtra card I could put in the Clie NX70V

On my NX70, it gave me an extra 4.8MB to use. You can get it from Brayder Technologies, link below. The registration process is a tad convoluted as you first have to buy the old version 2.6 first, then request the upgrade. The app is very easy to use. Put JackFlash in RAM and FlashEnable to the MS to restore the flash ROM after a hard reset.

http://www.brayder.com/

AndyMillson

05-13-2003, 12:13 PM

Can someone clarify the fontbucket/Jack flash compatibility for me

Cna I put the App and the Fonts into ROM or just the app

Thanks

Andy

Nogib

05-13-2003, 03:44 PM

Besides regular apps and whatnot, is it OK to put the official updates such as Clie Files and MS Pro updates and such into ROM or is this a no go? How about the Flash player from the NZ model, can it go into ROM too?

lal2707

05-14-2003, 02:50 AM

What/how do you set FlashEnable to the MS?

Thanks

lal2707

05-14-2003, 04:21 AM

Larry

I purchased Jackflash and installed it - now needs activation code.

JackSafe does not run on the NX70V so used FlashEnable instead.

Will now try miving appls to use released Flash

Thanks for your help

Cheers

lal2707

05-14-2003, 05:36 AM

PrintBoy works from Flash as well - lots of files to move though!
Slideshow to Go, Smartchart also work from flash

In the list at the start of the thread, it showed the following can be moved to Flash:

BIP Exchange Library (get presently in Use or cannot be moved/deleted - what do I need to do the move to Flash?)

Bluetooth - various files (keep getting Bluetooth Exchange Library is in use and cannot be moved - how did you move these files related to Boothtooth? How do you disable it?

BtTransportBts - cannot move this either due to above (I guess)

Anyone had problems moving Clie Viewer and Clie Files to flash?

Cheers

ejanssen

05-14-2003, 05:56 AM

I had a fatal error when I tried moving Clie Files (the upgrade) to flash.

Thanks for this thread. Because of it, I purchased JackFlash yesterday morning and was happily moving applications during the day. I had been using Datebk5 running from the CF card, and it was taking about 4-5 seconds to load. From flash it is ... well ... a flash. I've freed up a good amount of room in RAM, and couldn't be happier. Between Flash and the CF, I've got room to spare and more things on this device than I could ever imagine ... with more planned in the near future.

Silverback

05-14-2003, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by ejanssen
I had a fatal error when I tried moving Clie Files (the upgrade) to flash.

Thanks for this thread. Because of it, I purchased JackFlash yesterday morning and was happily moving applications during the day. I had been using Datebk5 running from the CF card, and it was taking about 4-5 seconds to load. From flash it is ... well ... a flash. I've freed up a good amount of room in RAM, and couldn't be happier. Between Flash and the CF, I've got room to spare and more things on this device than I could ever imagine ... with more planned in the near future.

You're right, you cannot put any of the builtin app upgrades into flash. You used to be able to back them up and remove them from flash with JackSprat from Brayder, but Sony didn't allow for this to work with OS5 (or their new ROM, can't remember which).

Anyway, once PowerRun 1.3 is out of beta, you may want to consider that as you can store your programs/databases on the CF as well as the MS and free up some serious RAM! :p

n2ifp

05-14-2003, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by ejanssen
I had a fatal error when I tried moving Clie Files (the upgrade) to flash.

Thanks for this thread. Because of it, I purchased JackFlash yesterday morning and was happily moving applications during the day. I had been using Datebk5 running from the CF card, and it was taking about 4-5 seconds to load. From flash it is ... well ... a flash. I've freed up a good amount of room in RAM, and couldn't be happier. Between Flash and the CF, I've got room to spare and more things on this device than I could ever imagine ... with more planned in the near future.

Interesting as I had no problem with Clie Files. Some others gave me trouble at first, tried again after reset, then no problem.

ejanssen

05-14-2003, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by Silverback

Anyway, once PowerRun 1.3 is out of beta, you may want to consider that as you can store your programs/databases on the CF as well as the MS and free up some serious RAM! :p

Actually, with LauncherX I'm already running serious applications and databases off the CF card. You just drag the program icon to the MS gadget, and it allows you then to choose the card and the directory for the program. I've not encountered any programs not able to run in this way, and the added bonus is that all databases are updated at HotSynch if you include a shortcut on the device. I've got 45% RAM free right now, and that is with running Avantgo Beta out of RAM, and still haven't moved all my apps.

lal2707

05-14-2003, 07:01 AM

Is anyone running JackSafe on Clie NX70V?

lal2707

05-14-2003, 12:44 PM

Silverback/n2ifp

In the list at the start of the thread, it showed the following can be moved to Flash:

BIP Exchange Library (get presently in Use or cannot be moved/deleted - what do I need to do the move to Flash?)

Bluetooth - various files (keep getting Bluetooth Exchange Library is in use and cannot be moved - how did you move these files related to Boothtooth? How do you disable it?

BtTransportBts - cannot move this either due to above (I guess)

Anyone had problems moving Clie Viewer and Clie Files to flash?

Cheers

abosco

05-14-2003, 03:06 PM

I saw PowerRun on that list. I put PowerRun in Flash ROM using JFLight (63K/64K), it accepted its position, and didn't mind it. I tried to run NetFront, which is PowerRan, and I got the Null Handle reset every time. I moved it to RAM, and it opened normally. Back to PowerRun, open NetFront, Null Handle, reset. Took PowerRun out of Flash and back into RAM, ran NetFront using PowerRun, and it worked like it usually did.

Well, it was nice having 8.1 MB free RAM, but I guess I'll be stuck with 8.04 MB free until I find $20 to splurge on JackFlash. :(

Silverback

05-14-2003, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by lal2707
Silverback/n2ifp

In the list at the start of the thread, it showed the following can be moved to Flash:

BIP Exchange Library (get presently in Use or cannot be moved/deleted - what do I need to do the move to Flash?)

Bluetooth - various files (keep getting Bluetooth Exchange Library is in use and cannot be moved - how did you move these files related to Boothtooth? How do you disable it?

BtTransportBts - cannot move this either due to above (I guess)

Anyone had problems moving Clie Viewer and Clie Files to flash?

Cheers

Hi lal2707,

I do not have the Bluetooth drivers so I am not sure how the people that use them got them into flash.

The list I compiled at the beginning of this thread was extracted from a bunch of posts in another thread that I went through.

I thought it might be more convenient for everyone if they were listed together in one place, but as I said at the top of this post YMMV as I did not try every one of these myself :)

Heck, I probably don't own a tenth of what is listed there.

Sorry if this caused any confusion. Just trying to help.

BTW, most people used JackFlash (full version, not demo JackFlash Lite), but I am not sure if that makes any difference or not.

Maybe someone else can comment on how successful they were in getting the Bluetooth stuff into flash and let us all know how they did it.

n2ifp

05-14-2003, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by lal2707
Is anyone running JackSafe on Clie NX70V?

No, use Jack Enable!

Sorry, I don't know anything about Bluetooth, I am a WiFi 802.11b man :)

kgod

05-14-2003, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by abosco
[B]I saw PowerRun on that list. I put PowerRun in Flash ROM using JFLight (63K/64K), it accepted its position, and didn't mind it. I tried to run NetFront, which is PowerRan, and I got the Null Handle reset every time. I moved it to RAM, and it opened normally. Back to PowerRun, open NetFront, Null Handle, reset. Took PowerRun out of Flash and back into RAM, ran NetFront using PowerRun, and it worked like it usually did.

Perhaps you can't do this with the "Light" version. Using JackFlash 3.0b7, I have PowerRun in flash, and Netfront runs fine when opened with PowerRun.

lal2707

05-15-2003, 12:46 AM

I am using the Full Jackflash version and use Wii as well - but I think I loaded the Blueetooth when I applied the last Sony updates

Will continue to serach and come back if successful

I will remove Jacksafe from the Clie since not needed

Thanks

ejanssen

05-15-2003, 06:28 AM

I'v just discovered for myself (maybe it has already been posted) that with "Documents to Go", you can have WordToGo and SheetToGo in Flash, but must have "Documents" in RAM in order to have it hotsynch the files properly.

lal2707

05-15-2003, 08:51 AM

I am running Docs to Go and all the other To Go appls in Flash - no problems foun. Sync works OK

zohaer21

05-19-2003, 01:20 AM

one thing id like to ask
after a hard reset the applications put in flash mem are not seen on the launhcer screen till i reinstall teh jackflash from the memstick.. is there any way around this problem... i mean that without using jackflash i could see the files in launcher and use them..
also if i hotsync will the changes to teh files be saved???
thanks

unchewable

05-19-2003, 02:31 AM

i see on your list you have a cf modem driver. is that a plug into the wall modem driver you have installed i haven't been able to find one. there is a bunch of pocket pc modem's for cf but i haven't seen one for palm os. in my quest to turn my 70v into a laptop this is a must. thanks for all your work :D

n2ifp

05-19-2003, 06:21 AM

Originally posted by unchewable
i see on your list you have a cf modem driver. is that a plug into the wall modem driver you have installed i haven't been able to find one. there is a bunch of pocket pc modem's for cf but i haven't seen one for palm os. in my quest to turn my 70v into a laptop this is a must. thanks for all your work :D

http://clienx_cf_modem.tripod.com/

CF Modem Installation Instructions
Hello all,

I have been requested by our favorite Brazilian, Pelaca, to put together a step by step instruction set on getting a CF modem to properly function in an NX. Here goes.....

1. Obtain an NX (preferably via legal means)

2. Obtain a compatible modem. I use the AmbiCom which I purchased at Best Buy (click here)

3. Install the attached files contained on the two following posts. The first file (cfutils.zip) contains the Japanese version of the modem drivers. The second file (cfutilityen.zip) contains the modified English language file that Pelaca has spent many hours on.

4. After installation, perform a Soft Reset of your NX by pressing the small button on the back of your unit.

5. Locate and execute the new program "CF Utility" in your launcher (hint: the icon has a picture of a hammer & screwdriver)

6. Insert your new modem into the CF slot on your device. The screen should read:

Brand: CF
Product: 56K Modem JATE

7. Return to your launcher and run your system PREFS utility. Select "Network" in the dropdown menu (upper right).

8. Within Network Preferences tap the dropdown menu next to Service and select the top entry (AT&T). Next, tap the dropdown menu next to Connection and select "Edit Connections".

9. Within "Available Connections" select "New"

10. Within "Edit Connection" replace the name "Custom" with the name of your modem (i.e. AmbiCom, or maybe Pete). Set "Connect to:" to "Modem". Set "Via" to the top setting of "Analog Modem (gibberish)". Tap "Ok" then tap "Done"

11. Now you are back at the "Network Preferences" screen. Replace the service name to your ISP name. Enter your ISP info under "User Name", "Password" & "Phone #". Under the "Connection" setting, select the modem name you entered in step 10 (should be the bottom choice).

12. Connect telephone line (analog) and tap "Connect"

Simple eh?

From: Pelaca
You have to install... the "CFUtilityen.prc" then the "CFNULLinf.prc", "CFmodeminf.prc" and "CFmodemvdrv.prc"...
In the "cfutilityen.zip" you can found the needed files...
The TDK, KAGA, Billionton are supported by Sony but the Princeton and Ambicom works too...
I'm working on the Xircom now with no success for now...

BettyE

05-19-2003, 09:24 AM

Ond thing I don't understand about JackFlash -- I am assuming that Sony did not use the extra 4.5 MB for a reason. That is -- it serves another purpose to enable the Clie to process faster or something. If we fill it up with applications, does it hinder or slow any other functions?

wbdjr

05-21-2003, 09:40 PM

The reason Sony (and other PalmOS vendors) don't use the whole flash memory area is

a) it's bigger than they needed and/or
b) it leaves room for OS or built-in app upgrades.

n2ifp

05-21-2003, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by BettyE
Ond thing I don't understand about JackFlash -- I am assuming that Sony did not use the extra 4.5 MB for a reason. That is -- it serves another purpose to enable the Clie to process faster or something. If we fill it up with applications, does it hinder or slow any other functions?

The main reason is the Japanese and European models use much more ROM. The Japanese is more complex and the European has multi-language added.

Good thing for us in the USA, it pretty much gives back what was taken from RAM, the bad is that we had to pay for it :(.

ncoday

06-03-2003, 10:55 AM

I just got JackFLash 3.0b7, and I am thoroughly impressed! I gained nearly 3 MBs in RAM space! Went from 3.9 to 6.8 free RAM. I am very happy!

lal2707

06-03-2003, 10:58 AM

Was this an update a new install of JackFlash?

ncoday

06-03-2003, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by lal2707
Was this an update a new install of JackFlash?

Yes, I just registered last night.

lal2707

06-03-2003, 11:35 AM

JackFlash has been one of the best Clie appls as the freed RAM really helps. I was talking to the developer and there should be a new version 3.0b8 anytime this week

Guatiao

06-06-2003, 10:45 PM

I agree with all "freed RAM" posts... I went from 1.6 MB to 4.7 MB in almost no time, and no crashes so far... thanks Silverback and ALL the other posters!!!! Now my NX70 ROCKS...

Tafari06

06-14-2003, 12:38 AM

Great List!

Thanks,
Tafari06

drvman02

07-11-2003, 10:08 AM

Anybody know if WordToGoFonts can be placed in Flash?

How about a list of DataBases that work fine in flash

n0ppw

08-19-2003, 08:26 AM

Apparently Chapura's KeySuite doesn't like to live in FlashROM. I keep getting the "memory no handles" fatal error. Granted, it's only the trial version--but got hooked on Datebook+ on my old Handspring Prism and want more info in my address book. :p

Has anyone checked MegaLauncher (VIP 3.2.2 or 4.3 and higher) with jackFlash? (* Anxiously waiting for ML 4.4 if it works like the rumors say *) :D

Jeff/N0PPW

Lucid

08-21-2003, 07:18 PM

I recently acquired the new Stowaway keyboard from Fellowes for my NX70V -- which I love, by the way -- but my main reason for posting is to let everyone know that the keyboard driver seems to function perfectly after I moved it into Flash memory using JackFlash.

To second what has been said several times before in this thread, JackFlash is a very cool application. I didn't really understand it, and thought it could be dangerous -- but I read more and more here at Clie Source and decided to try it out. It's great -- free memory!

If you aren't a JackFlash user yet yourself, I would definitely encourage you to learn more.

Take care!

Lucid

n2ifp

08-21-2003, 07:22 PM

Be aware of what appears to be random crashes, most keyboard drivers were not totally happy in Flash. With that said, if it is stable, then what the heck :)

terue5b0

08-25-2003, 08:36 PM

If they're not already mentioned, add DataViz's "Beyond Contacts" and Grafitti Anywhere v1.4.2 to the list of apps. that work in Flash. I removed the standard Address Book, Date Book, Memo Pad and To Do List from flash and replaced all of them with DataViz's "Beyond Contacts". It's working perfectly! You have to keep the main program (Beyond Contacts) in RAM though or it won't be synced when you do a hotsync. I also put World Alarm Clock and DataViz Mail (it is also part of Beyond Contacts) in flash. I removed Kinoma, Bejeweled, MS Backup, Clie Demo, Welcome, PG Pocket and Modem Support. To get Grafitti Anywhere into flash though you have to enable the option in JackFlash to show everything including applications which shouldn't be put into flash. Once you enable that option, Grafitti Anywhere shows up in JackFlash's list and you can move it to Flash. I've been testing Grafitti Anywhere with all of my applications and using different options in its menu and it has not given me any problems. I did all of this on my SJ33 and since it was upgraded to 32MB of RAM by RunPDA I have more available RAM than ever! I love my SJ33.

n2ifp

08-25-2003, 08:58 PM

With very few exceptions, most apps will run in Flash as long as they're read only. The main exceptions are Sony upgrades where the new files mirror and replace existing ROM files. Those have to stay in RAM for OS5 devices. With OS4.x devices, it's possible to remove the older ROM files being replaced.

terue5b0

08-25-2003, 09:04 PM

The infrared update that Sony has for the SJ33 won't go into flash. JackFlash keeps saying something about the file being in use even though I don't have the infrared port activated...

hhardjakusumah

11-07-2003, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by lal2707
PrintBoy works from Flash as well - lots of files to move though!
Slideshow to Go, Smartchart also work from flash

In the list at the start of the thread, it showed the following can be moved to Flash:

BIP Exchange Library (get presently in Use or cannot be moved/deleted - what do I need to do the move to Flash?)

Bluetooth - various files (keep getting Bluetooth Exchange Library is in use and cannot be moved - how did you move these files related to Boothtooth? How do you disable it?

BtTransportBts - cannot move this either due to above (I guess)

Cheers

Do a soft reset, then move the files.