grrrrr... arrrghh...

[SamuraiCatJB]

my upteenth millionth windows crash prompted me to do the unthinkable...
I installed mepis linux on my second disk. :)

It will take some getting used to... :)

[Joel]

Sorry to hear that.

Maybe now's the time to consider a Mac. Tiger is just around the corner.

[SamuraiCatJB]

maybe next year when I am ready to upgrade to a new computer.... right now my money I have been tossing around is growing slim. :)

upgrades, maybe, new system will have to wait until next year. :)

I haven't tried the various windows emulators yet, but I could actually run windows ME from within linux. :o Not sure I am ready for that... I have 98, ME, XP home all officially mine. Right now I am dual boot, windows on 74gig which I am repairing, and Linux on 36gig which I am learning. :)

Interesting enough, Kdm has a few mac look options. :) so who knows, as I get used to a unix system again, it makes it easier to consider a Mac in the future.

[Cyker]

I almost miss the C64 vs Amiga vs Atari days :P

[JackAxe]

Hope all works out. :) If anything a Mac mini would be an affordable excellent way to get back into the Mac world, just for web browsing, e-mail and so on.

I've always wanted to try linux, just never got around to it.

I've heard that Tiger will be out in April, but I've also heard this month. April sounds more logical though, since a 10.3.9 update has been disscused on a few other sites.

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[JackAxe]

I almost miss the C64 vs Amiga vs Atari days :P

I remember those discussions, but they were never as bad as the Mac vs PC things it seems. :)

I dropped my jaw the first time I saw an Amiga demoing a simple juggling animation.

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[zackepceo]

BeOS Teapots anyone?

[SamuraiCatJB]

bsd demons? :D

[JackAxe]

BeOS has leprosy. :D

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[zackepceo]

BeOS has leprosy. :D

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At least it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

[JackAxe]

Nor is it as common as an arm and leg. :)

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[zackepceo]

'Twas a joke. :D

[SamuraiCatJB]

found the mystery of the non installing drivers... :)

half the .deb updates are for 6619 and half for 7114, its because of the new update from nvidia, not all hte updates are in so it couldn't get all the necessary files for one version or the other, so it got mixed of both... baaaad... :) teach me to try to update on my own. ;) ahhh, well, its only days old so it will be fixed soon. :)

[seraphim_9:11]

found the mystery of the non installing drivers... :)

half the .deb updates are for 6619 and half for 7114, its because of the new update from nvidia, not all hte updates are in so it couldn't get all the necessary files for one version or the other, so it got mixed of both... baaaad... :) teach me to try to update on my own. ;) ahhh, well, its only days old so it will be fixed soon. :)
use omega drivers - at least they are uniform over most versions of the same manufacturer - I posted about it in the graphics card thread ..

[SamuraiCatJB]

use omega drivers - at least they are uniform over most versions of the same manufacturer - I posted about it in the graphics card thread ..

not on my debian install list... and I don't feel like forcing a driver install from either nvidia or anyone else. :) I can wait a few days. I am cleaning up the windows side while expanding the linux side anyhow. :)

[SamuraiCatJB]

pretty darn cool... comes setup and ready for palms. :) I am currently backing up my TH55 to Mepis KDE suite. :)

[JackAxe]

Congratulations, you just brought your PC up to a higher plain of existence. :)

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[SamuraiCatJB]

Congratulations, you just brought your PC up to a higher plain of existence. :)

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hehehe, yup. outside of the current nVidia driver issue its pretty easy. The driver issue is actually a problem because they have tried to make it too easy. :D

The package manager for Mepis doesn't let you choose any and all versions that have ever been, it only lets you choose the most recent update from yours. Because only half the files have been updated, half are on one driver, half on another driver, the two don't match, so the driver fails. But once all the files are in for the new driver there shouldn't be a problem. Like I said, they tried to make it too easy, so not offering the confusion of multiple versions.

I am glad to see everything really is there to be up and running right away. I even have plucker installed in the palmsync client already. If I had an accounting package that synced to the palm via Linux, I'd be even happier.

I also downloaded XEXE (? I will have to look it up, a google doesn't find this, so I may be remembering the name wrong), a virtual platform manager, allowing dual OS simultaneously with minimal overhead. I haven't tried it, but if I get it working right, I may be running Windows and Linux on a virtual partition of my CPU. :p

[SamuraiCatJB]

okay... I got two letters right... that's decent for a person who downloaded it at 11:45 and got up at 5:15am right?

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/index.html

looks like they are waiting for the VMM extension on the new processors to handle XP though....

1.4 Does Xen support Microsoft Windows?
Unfortunately we do not currently support Windows; the paravirtualized approach we use to get such high performance has not been usable directly for Windows to date. However recently announced hardware support from Intel and AMD will allow us to transparently support Windows XP & 2003 Server in the near future. We are working on this and intend to have support available by the time the new processors are available.

oh well. :) they have a version of XP running in XEN, or claim to, but dare not release it for the big MS will pounce. :)

[JackAxe]

Make sure you pick up a Mac and 6800 also and then use your Linux driver knowledge to adapt the firmware and driver of a FX card fo OSX. :)

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[JackAxe]

Here you go, it's a link to a IBM Linux port contest thingy majjigy for the PowerPC. You should get a Mini, join this contest and then port something. :)

http://www.linuxonpower.com/

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[SamuraiCatJB]

Make sure you pick up a Mac and 6800 also and then use your Linux driver knowledge to adapt the firmware and driver of a FX card fo OSX. :)

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that is the thing... I could easily adapt the nVidia drivers to Linux. nVidia provides the shell scripts to rebuild the kernel patches and install the driver. But I am trying to avoid a manual install of the drivers and kernal patch. I am trying to use the Mepis menus to treat it like a high level OS in that I select what I want, I get it. :)

The apple and nVidia folks some time... it wasn't long ago that you simply could not get current generation hardware for linux, now you can. Same with apple in the past, now you can. Linux drivers followed slowly at first, now stay current and co-release, soon apple will too.

[SamuraiCatJB]

Here you go, it's a link to a IBM Linux port contest thingy majjigy for the PowerPC. You should get a Mini, join this contest and then port something. :)

http://www.linuxonpower.com/

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ugh!! work??????

:p :p

[JackAxe]

Yep, contests are always work and for the most part, the prizes are never worth the time. :)

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[SamuraiCatJB]

Yep, contests are always work and for the most part, the prizes are never worth the time. :)

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I am going to port over an entire program to their platform, which means I either deskcheck my work, or buy their hardware platform... just to win another of their hardware platforms... :eek:

Why don't I just write a new OS, and release JustDOS. :D

[JackAxe]

JustDO it. :) Then not only will they get free work, but they'll own your name and likness whenever you're in public. :p

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[SamuraiCatJB]

JustDO it. :) Then not only will they get free work, but they'll own your name and likness whenever you're in public. :p

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thanks, but I prefer not to be owned.... *glances at work location* err... well... uh... err... :o

[JackAxe]

Evenw worse, you're owned by the goverment. :D

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[SamuraiCatJB]

:eek: :eek:

That was why the :o

[JackAxe]

I picked it up subiconsciously. :eek:

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[SamuraiCatJB]

so icon see. :)

[JackAxe]

Icon too. :p Now I've stepped over the line and probably should be shot.

Too go off subject like my normal scatter brained self does so often:

Why can't my 6800 Ultra render a larger then 1024k square when using "Maya Hardware" rendering? Same is true for the Hardware Render buffer.

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[zackepceo]

Icon too. :p Now I've stepped over the line and probably should be shot.

Too go off subject like my normal scatter brained self does so often:

Why can't my 6800 Ultra render a larger then 1024k square when using "Maya Hardware" rendering? Same is true for the Hardware Render buffer.

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Because... you're stark raving mad!

[SamuraiCatJB]

Why can't my 6800 Ultra render a larger then 1024k square when using "Maya Hardware" rendering? Same is true for the Hardware Render buffer.

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There is no reason. I have routinely rendered images to maximum screen support size, hardware accelerated. In fact I will soon be doing a poster render using OpenGL by parsing the screen into quadrants (4 to start), then subsection the view, render, store, render next, store, etc... piece together final result. Now even assuming a 1k by 1k limit (which I have never seen) you could easily generate a 2k by 2k image by partitioning. By partitioning each quadrant one more level 4k by 4k is output, and again 8k by 8k.

We occassionally need poster images, so I have offered this. especially since any other project starts showing the reduced triangle design rapidly, mine does not.

[JackAxe]

This is weird. I wonder if it's a Mac thing? Some peep on the Alias forum was wondering if the Nvidia cards could render HD through hardware, because his ATI was in the same boat. Maya only allows us to set the buffer to 70% in the hardware render window.

I was hoping the Nvidia could do it, just to give it that extra "look at what I can do." :)

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[JackAxe]

Because... you're stark raving mad!

Because why am I mad? :)

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[SamuraiCatJB]

Because why am I mad? :)

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I thought it was a given, like me being mad (of course hermits are expected to be mad). :)

[JackAxe]

Hermits, mad. Naaaaaa. Just crazy. :)

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