Buying A crappy PPC just for emulators?

[Leb]

As much as I would love some more emulators on the Palm OS it's not going to happen for a while.

Does anyone think that it's a good idea to buy a cheap one just for the emulation? I am sure you could pick one up for around $150.

I would love to play Mario 3 and other such classics and games on a handheld without having to carry around cartrigides.

Is there going to be a GBA emulator for the PPC anytime soon?

I am just wondering if I should buy a PPC for this reason because rumor has it that Mario 3 is being remade for GBA and I don't know if I should buy a GBA SP or a PPC. PPC would be my best bet.

[Leb]

Ok wait, I just found this GP32 handheld thread let me look at that, looks nasty man, unbelieveable-

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6764

[DoctorDED]

Emulating GBA on PPC is or will be hard. I have an emulator on my P4 Laptop with 512M of RAM, and it's still sometimes slow. You have to keep in mind that your emulating another type of processor, and memory structure. You better of get the GBA or GBA SP. I have has the GBA for sometime and have Mario 2 and SuperMario World both are great, and cheap! You better off going with a GBA or GBA SP. If you go the GBA route, because I think there better, and better holding. I seen the prototype of the SP. If you go with GBA go here: http://www.gbalight.com/walkthrough.html This is where I made my GBA light with a cover, and it's EASY! and cheaper!

Peace!

[JackAxe]

I heard that they sell Flash Carts for the GBA that will hold multiple games.;)
http://www.gameboy-advance.net/

What leb said, the GP32 is an excellent option. Although the site does mention it is a little slow with GBA emulation. It also does not have a backlight.

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GBA emulation is in it's infancy on the PPC and is very slow. NES, TG16, Sega, GB and GBC emulators are very playable. Mario 3 runs at full speed with sound under PocketNester.

If you buy a PPC make sure it uses a PXA255 running at least 400Mhz. The PPC should have 48 megs for the OS and 64 for prorgrams. This is going to cost more then $150.
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DoctorDED, I was wondering what emulator you're using on the PC. I use Boycott Advance on my TIBook with no loss of performance.

I'm personally going with the GBA SP. Even though I already have a PPC and GBA with Afterburner (internal light). The backlight, rechargeble battery and small design are to good to pass up.

<]=)

[rhart00]

Maximum PC has a big article about gaming on the PPC in the April 2003 edition. Although I wish they would have included Palm OS, It is still very imformative. They made so many great points about the current state of gaming on the PPC, I am not going to list them. You might want to check it out.

[tifosiv122]

Originally posted by rhart00
Maximum PC has a big article about gaming on the PPC in the April 2003 edition. Although I wish they would have included Palm OS, It is still very imformative. They made so many great points about the current state of gaming on the PPC, I am not going to list them. You might want to check it out.

They have done Palm OS several issues ago, and they have done it several times over the years, as far back as Boot.

Erik

[Jake K]

I now have a PPC, the Viewsonice V35, and I must say that it is amazing for games. I can play Doom at a really high fps. And all those NES games like Super Mario Bros 3 and every other Mario run at 50+ frames a second with sound, even SNES games like Super Mario World run fast enough to play. It's good for other things like PIM, Avantgo and many other things too. Also the speaker is actually really audible for music listening, compared to the T665.

Now I know most think the PPC is a terrible OS, but you really have to try it for about a week to make an informed opinion.

[tifosiv122]

Originally posted by Jake K
Now I know most think the PPC is a terrible OS, but you really have to try it for about a week to make an informed opinion.

Did it for a month, had nothing but problems with the OS and additional software. I had the first IPAQ with bluetooth (forgot the model #). The only thing I liked in a PPC is the 'transcriber' but even that was sometimes too slow.

Erik

[tsuribito]

If you want a System with lots of emulators, buy a Sharp Zaurus.
Pretty cheap ~380€

http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showapps.php?cat=15

Has a Arm based Processor and is better than PPC :)

Oh and it can emulate your "big" PC too.
http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=669

[Jake K]

Originally posted by tifosiv122


Did it for a month, had nothing but problems with the OS and additional software. I had the first IPAQ with bluetooth (forgot the model #). The only thing I liked in a PPC is the 'transcriber' but even that was sometimes too slow.

Erik

Well I guess they have gotten faster now because I haven't noticed any slowdowns anywhere.

[Zork]

Jake K, the games looks horrible on the PPC, cause the resolution isnt recent anymore with todays standards.
The other prob is that Win CE is a huge break for every application, cause Win were never made for PDAs in mind. That means that every applications runs way faster on the ARM Palm OS devices, cause their libs are optimized for portable usage.
And finally .... check the screen space you waste with original ported GUI elemtnes whcih doesnt make the smallest sense on a PDA. Which leads to the fact that you have appr. 50 % less screen space on PDAs then on any HiRes Palm OS device.
The PPC platform isnt dead for nothing since the introduction of the ARM Palm OS devices.

[Zork]

Leb, as kewl as emulation software is, but you have to choose between the larger and more enhanced exclusive game platform like the Palm Os devices or playin just old games which arent played anymore for over a decade.
Emulation is kewl and its some awesome addition to real games. But its only an addition !!!!

[johnnymapson]

Originally posted by tsuribito
If you want a System with lots of emulators, buy a Sharp Zaurus.
Pretty cheap ~380€

http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showapps.php?cat=15

Has a Arm based Processor and is better than PPC :)

Oh and it can emulate your "big" PC too.
http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=669

Make sure to download ALL the articles on how to set it up and make sure you don't have to use it for it's PIM functions. How is it "better" than PPC? The screen is worse than the worst iPaq, it doesn't sync right (read the posts on EVERY board.) Every game emulator is POOR compared to the emulators on the PPC platform. I will agree the hardware is FAIR but not that great, the thing is HUGE.

[Leb]

Originally posted by tsuribito
If you want a System with lots of emulators, buy a Sharp Zaurus.
Pretty cheap ~380€

http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showapps.php?cat=15

Has a Arm based Processor and is better than PPC :)

Oh and it can emulate your "big" PC too.
http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=669

Isn't that a linux based PPC? Do I need Linux?

[johnnymapson]

DO NOT GET THE ZAURUS. It doesn't emulate the PC like the last poster suggested it is a VNC type client for the zaurus, not some kind of windows emulator. Did I mention not to get the Zaurus?

[tsuribito]

No you got something wrong. Bochs is an emulator for Intel *86 architecture. It truly emulates an IBM Pc but it is really slow. Especially on an arm processor. But it works. It should also be available for Windows CE.

As for the "better" part. The Thread starter asked about emulators and wanted to know if he had to buy a Pocket PC. So i gave him an Alternative.
I agree the Zaurus sucks at Pim. It is hard to find something better than Palm OS .
But the Zaurus is worth a look. There will be a new Device out soon with a 640x480 Display. Really looking forward to that one.

Isn't that a linux based PPC? Do I need Linux?
You won't really notice that It runs Linux if you don't want to :)
And it is NOT a PPC with Linux on it.
It is a Strongarm based PDA like the OS5 Palms or Pocket PCs.

Did I mention the 100% compability to the Desktop OS? No other PDA can do that. :)

[johnnymapson]

What do you mean by 100% compatability to the desktop OS? The 640x480 zaurus will not be coming to the United States, if you can get it in Germany that would be great for you I'm sure. The software has not been improved enough to warrant the price difference in the new unit. You will have to learn some linux to use the zaurus, this is because the included installer is garbage on the majority of the software that is out there. You will need to use the shell with the whole install ipkg, which I think is really lame. All that work should not be needed on a PDA.

[Zork]

johnny, the Zaurus uses 640 * 480. So dont ever compare the antique completely useless iPaq screen again with such a kewl screen.
Some other point is its size. There you are correct. The PPCs are already way too huge to handle them practically compared with most Clies and every Palm. But the Zaurus is even larger and therefor more like a notebook ;) .

[tsuribito]

There are Guis for the Ipkg now. I agree that a console is crappy on a pda as long as you don't have a nice keyboard.

What do you mean by 100% compatability to the desktop OS?
You can virtually compile everything on and for the Zaurus that was designed for the Desktop OS.
Most Programs will require little changes but almos all the stuff will work on it.
The Debian guys even managed to make it run their arm OS :)

[johnnymapson]

Originally posted by Zork
johnny, the Zaurus uses 640 * 480. So dont ever compare the antique completely useless iPaq screen again with such a kewl screen.
Some other point is its size. There you are correct. The PPCs are already way too huge to handle them practically compared with most Clies and every Palm. But the Zaurus is even larger and therefor more like a notebook ;) .
Have you ever held the ipaq 3955 next to the zaurus? You are going to tell me the zaurus screen is better? All I can say is wow........

[johnnymapson]

Originally posted by tsuribito
There are Guis for the Ipkg now. I agree that a console is crappy on a pda as long as you don't have a nice keyboard.


You can virtually compile everything on and for the Zaurus that was designed for the Desktop OS.
Most Programs will require little changes but almos all the stuff will work on it.
The Debian guys even managed to make it run their arm OS :)

But at what price? Everything I have ran emulated or not ran so slow that it was completely impractical for actual usage. Console is crappy on a pda even with a nice keyboard.

[Zork]

johnny, 320 * 240. Hate to tell ya, but .... the 80s are over ;)

[johnnymapson]

Originally posted by Zork
johnny, 320 * 240. Hate to tell ya, but .... the 80s are over ;)

I understand that whole issue. What I am saying is actually hold the zaurus next to the ipaq 38xx -> and see which one looks better.

[tsuribito]

I have to agree. Under Ideal conditions the Ipaq Display looks better than the Zaurus's but the Ipaq is in completly different regions of price.
The new Zaurus however looks better than the Ipaq but that is the usual way in Computer business. The new stuff is usually better :)

[Jake K]

Originally posted by Zork
Jake K, the games looks horrible on the PPC, cause the resolution isnt recent anymore with todays standards.
The other prob is that Win CE is a huge break for every application, cause Win were never made for PDAs in mind. That means that every applications runs way faster on the ARM Palm OS devices, cause their libs are optimized for portable usage.
And finally .... check the screen space you waste with original ported GUI elemtnes whcih doesnt make the smallest sense on a PDA. Which leads to the fact that you have appr. 50 % less screen space on PDAs then on any HiRes Palm OS device.
The PPC platform isnt dead for nothing since the introduction of the ARM Palm OS devices.

Have you ever actually played any games on a PPC? Or do you just assume things? Because I'm playing Super Mario Bros 3 right now, and it looks awesome.

[___]

Originally posted by Zork
Jake K, the games looks horrible on the PPC, cause the resolution isnt recent anymore with todays standards.
The other prob is that Win CE is a huge break for every application, cause Win were never made for PDAs in mind. That means that every applications runs way faster on the ARM Palm OS devices, cause their libs are optimized for portable usage.
And finally .... check the screen space you waste with original ported GUI elemtnes whcih doesnt make the smallest sense on a PDA. Which leads to the fact that you have appr. 50 % less screen space on PDAs then on any HiRes Palm OS device.
The PPC platform isnt dead for nothing since the introduction of the ARM Palm OS devices.

You've got to be kidding me!
http://members.shaw.ca/fouriiiis/comparison.JPG
http://members.shaw.ca/fouriiiis/comparison2.JPG
http://members.shaw.ca/fouriiiis/comparison3.JPG

Yeah, go play 320X320 bejewelled.

[___]

Originally posted by Zork
johnny, the Zaurus uses 640 * 480. So dont ever compare the antique completely useless iPaq screen again with such a kewl screen.
Some other point is its size. There you are correct. The PPCs are already way too huge to handle them practically compared with most Clies and every Palm. But the Zaurus is even larger and therefor more like a notebook ;) .

Totally disagree Zork. You obviously are terribly misinformed about the "modern" Zaurus screen being better than iPaq screens. Even ask Nevardeath.

[___]

Originally posted by Zork
Jake K, the games looks horrible on the PPC, cause the resolution isnt recent anymore with todays standards.
The other prob is that Win CE is a huge break for every application, cause Win were never made for PDAs in mind. That means that every applications runs way faster on the ARM Palm OS devices, cause their libs are optimized for portable usage.
And finally .... check the screen space you waste with original ported GUI elemtnes whcih doesnt make the smallest sense on a PDA. Which leads to the fact that you have appr. 50 % less screen space on PDAs then on any HiRes Palm OS device.
The PPC platform isnt dead for nothing since the introduction of the ARM Palm OS devices.

BTW stop bringing up GUI elements because they can be hidden with a tap you newbie.

[Zork]

So unregistered spreads his lies again. But this time you delted at least the funy, completely useless Sim City 2k screen. All the other games were already stated as not recent anymore for the Palm area. Especially (!!!!) not at the soccer area. There you have the only real soccer game avail only (!!!!) for POS devices. Desailly Soccer is LoRes, but is by far the only real soccer game avail for any PDA (for get that FIFA stuff for PPC. Played it for hours and it is the worst **** which ever caried the FIFA label. And Soccer Addict were trashed within minutes from the PPC). And BTW : Where are your 480 * 320 games for PPC ? There arent any ? Lets compare this with the Clie gaming scene. Hey, there are dozens of them :)))) .
Enough time wasted with the usal PPC fanatism.

[___]

Originally posted by Zork
So unregistered spreads his lies again. But this time you delted at least the funy, completely useless Sim City 2k screen. All the other games were already stated as not recent anymore for the Palm area. Especially (!!!!) not at the soccer area. There you have the only real soccer game avail only (!!!!) for POS devices. Desailly Soccer is LoRes, but is by far the only real soccer game avail for any PDA (for get that FIFA stuff for PPC. Played it for hours and it is the worst **** which ever caried the FIFA label. And Soccer Addict were trashed within minutes from the PPC). And BTW : Where are your 480 * 320 games for PPC ? There arent any ? Lets compare this with the Clie gaming scene. Hey, there are dozens of them :)))) .
Enough time wasted with the usal PPC fanatism.

Please improve your comprehension overall. I have put screenshots of 32X480. Secondly, I am registered. Thirdly, I doubt you've played FIFA and truly thought it sucked. GG Newbie. You're just too poor to buy a PPC, and have wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much pride in your T615 (low end)

[tifosiv122]

Having owned both a PPC (iPaq h5400) and several palms I would like to say that the PPC games look better then lo-res palm apps however some hi-res palm apps look just as good. As for the units, well, my iPaq was horrible. I ended up dumping it on Ebay for half the price I paid becuase I couldn't go one week without a major issue. That said, neither machine is meant for games.

IMO PPC like WinCE is a waste of a device...the big initial draw was multimedia, which palm has now caught up...I see no reason to own a PPC anymore.

Erik

[Zork]

___, and all this arguments were sourced by you alone ;) ? Wow :)
I played indeed FIFA and its almost as sh*tty as Kick Off were then on the Amiga. Play Desailly Soccer to see how soccer games could be done even on PDAs.
And yep, im not willing to spend a single cent onto a dead platform like the PPC.
And im more then willing to get a new ARM clie, but its up to Sony to produce a T series like ARM clie with a HiRes+ display usin Virtual Graffiti. Cause right now the best ARM POS device is offered by Palm ... the Tungsten. I neither need a brick of a PDA like the NX nor do i want to waste pocket space with a useless thumbboard. But the Tungsten on the other side is really small and also offers HiRes and is getting cheaper and cheaper. So Sony .... release the T series ARM clie . Im not the only one out there waiting for it ;) .

[Zork]

tifosiv, HiRes Clie games lookin way better. I played Diamond Mine (even set a new record there ;) ) and Bejeweled. Diamond Mine looks almost as horrible as the LoRes version of Bejeweled and is way harder to play cause of the bad graphx.

[tifosiv122]

Originally posted by Zork
tifosiv, HiRes Clie games lookin way better. I played Diamond Mine (even set a new record there ;) ) and Bejeweled. Diamond Mine looks almost as horrible as the LoRes version of Bejeweled and is way harder to play cause of the bad graphx.

Actually I did better on bejeweled with lo-res...lol :)

Erik

[Zork]

tifosiv, but you didnt had a greyscale LoRes Palm then before ;) . Cause Bejeweled appeared like a brand new game with the 16 bit HiRes display the Clie 625 is using. Thx to the sharp graphx and the colors gem patterns are way faster to recognize then with this LoRes 4bit greyscale stuff from my former Palm IIIe. And Diamong Mine were something between the old LoRes stuff and the Clie HiRes version. It appears like some softened Clie version with not so bright colors. This doesnt make it unplayable (if you played Bejeweled on a IIIe for months you could play it on any other device too ;) ), but anyway harder to play.

[Leb]

___ What kind of argument is it to get into crap about his pda? Maybe that's all he needs. Maybe you think your parents make more than he does, doesn't say anything about you.

[tifosiv122]

Originally posted by Zork
tifosiv, but you didnt had a greyscale LoRes Palm then before ;) . Cause Bejeweled appeared like a brand new game with the 16 bit HiRes display the Clie 625 is using. Thx to the sharp graphx and the colors gem patterns are way faster to recognize then with this LoRes 4bit greyscale stuff from my former Palm IIIe. And Diamong Mine were something between the old LoRes stuff and the Clie HiRes version. It appears like some softened Clie version with not so bright colors. This doesnt make it unplayable (if you played Bejeweled on a IIIe for months you could play it on any other device too ;) ), but anyway harder to play.

The first system I had with Bejeweled was a Visor Prism. Then moved to a NR and now NX...I sometimes go back to 'basic' gems becuase I seem to find them quicker.

Erik

[batsai]

I've recently returned to the Palm platform (go NX70!) after having used a Compaq 3955 as my main brain for a while. I'm not truly devoted to either platform, but I have definite opinions about each based on my experience (for which I'm sure the flames will come pouring in ;))

PPC:
I have to say that when it comes to gaming, the PPC has some real killer games. NES emulators such as Pocket NES and Pocket Nester are incredible and extremely playable- they make the NES games feel like they were written for the iPAQ! Rayman Ultimate truly has to be seen to be believed- original musical score, breathtaking graphics, and a fantastic control scheme make this one a keeper. Titles like Tomb Raider, Doom, and others turn at full framerate and look and play fantastic. Bejeweled/Diamond Mine is a toss-up; I like the full screen version on the iPAQ compared to the Palm version, but the Palm version runs faster- go figure! As far as action games go, the PPC wins hands down- Zap 2016 is a great game, but it can't hold a candle to Turjah, Turjah II, Metalion, Odyssey, or any of the other great shooters on the PPC. There are also some fantastic strategy games, such as Argentum.

You can say what you like about the PPC 2002 OS, (believe me, I had several 4 letter words I applied to it daily :D ) but it handles storage cards much more elegantly than the Palm OS, which is very important if you want to load your device up with games.

Palm:

I'm so glad to see a directional control on the TT- many complained about the nav pad on the iPAQ, but I loved it for games. The buttons on the NX70 suck for gaming, but the game controller helps make up for it. XCade is a definite plus for me- Donkey Kong in the palm of my hand- genius! I've revisited a lot of my old faves on the Palm platform- Acid Solitaire, Three Peaks Solitaire, and of course, Zap 2016, as well as some new games such as GTS racing and Master Thief. I'm also glad to see more developers take advantage of the larger screens (breakout, taktik, etc...) These games are great, but when it comes to commercial quality games, the Palm platform is definitely behind. I'm really hoping that more game developers will begin to take advantage of the more powerful hardware in the new Palm OS 5.0 machines- there's definite potential there, but only time will tell.

[Jake K]

Originally posted by Zork
tifosiv, HiRes Clie games lookin way better. I played Diamond Mine (even set a new record there ;) ) and Bejeweled. Diamond Mine looks almost as horrible as the LoRes version of Bejeweled and is way harder to play cause of the bad graphx.

I'm going to assume that you never actually played or even looked at Diamond Mine on a PPC. The graphics are the exact same as an os 5 palm and far better then an os 4. Or possibily, you have something wrong with your eyes...?
Please let us know.

[Zork]

Jake, i just set a record their as mentioned at my posting, stupid. And nope, the graphx lookin indeed way more horrible, thx to the LoRes of the PPC and the bad screens of iPaqs (compared with the ones used at most Clies). And BTW OS 4 and OS 5 versions of Bejeweled are identical in terms of resolution and therefor of graphical appearance, newbie.

[Zork]

Originally posted by batsai
PPC:
I have to say that when it comes to gaming, the PPC has some real killer games. NES emulators such as Pocket NES and Pocket Nester are incredible and extremely playable- they make the NES games feel like they were written for the iPAQ! Rayman Ultimate truly has to be seen to be believed- original musical score, breathtaking graphics, and a fantastic control scheme make this one a keeper. Titles like Tomb Raider, Doom, and others turn at full framerate and look and play fantastic. Bejeweled/Diamond Mine is a toss-up; I like the full screen version on the iPAQ compared to the Palm version, but the Palm version runs faster- go figure! As far as action games go, the PPC wins hands down- Zap 2016 is a great game, but it can't hold a candle to Turjah, Turjah II, Metalion, Odyssey, or any of the other great shooters on the PPC. There are also some fantastic strategy games, such as Argentum.

That was then, this is now. Half a dozen killer games (GTS Racing (with absolutely nothing comparable on the PPC side), Rifle Slug II (again exclusively for POS devices), Desailly Soccer (the first real soccer for any PDA platform), Toy Races (where is Micro Machines for PPC ?), Elite (again exclusively - only still has prob with licensee), StoneAge+, ChessMaster (just the standard app for chess and again exclusively), etc. etc. ) released during the last few weeks for POS devices, while nothing were done for PPC on the other side had almost no releases.
Gaming on PPC were great once, but since the Clie started with 16 bit HiRes for POS devices it simply crashed. Now all the games are done for POS devices, while every now and then there are ports done for PPC too.
And BTW Bout action games : Dont have to mention all the action games avail for POS devices. Simple check www.palmgear.com .
And some last one : Bejeweled is full screen only on Clie and Palms, cause there both dimensions (160 * 160 or 320 * 320) are equal (which is essential for a game with 8 x 8 rows ;) ). On PPC on the other side you have the real sh*tty resolution of 320 * 240 and as you could easily see you have to leave screen space empty, cause of this unequal dimensions. So Diamond Mine is just a little bit better then the old LoRes version of Bejeweled. But compared with the HiRes one for Clies its simply stone aged :) . And I played all three of them more then long enough.

[Jake K]

Originally posted by Zork
Jake, i just set a record their as mentioned at my posting, stupid. And nope, the graphx lookin indeed way more horrible, thx to the LoRes of the PPC and the bad screens of iPaqs (compared with the ones used at most Clies). And BTW OS 4 and OS 5 versions of Bejeweled are identical in terms of resolution and therefor of graphical appearance, newbie.

The only Bejewled that is fast enough to play on a 33 mhz os 4 palm is the low res version. Which, by the way, is 160 x 160. That is far worse then the PPC's 320 x 240.

Me personally, I think the graphics are excellent, but obviously you have a different opinion on that.

[Zork]

Jake K, since 2.0 you play HiRes Bejeweled on any HiRes Clie (either if its 4.x or 5.x). Dont tell me which version of Bejeweled im playing since months.
And the prob with speed werent never any, when you turned off sound. And since 2.1 it runs simply perfect on the 625.

[___]

Originally posted by Zork
Jake, i just set a record their as mentioned at my posting, stupid. And nope, the graphx lookin indeed way more horrible, thx to the LoRes of the PPC and the bad screens of iPaqs (compared with the ones used at most Clies). And BTW OS 4 and OS 5 versions of Bejeweled are identical in terms of resolution and therefor of graphical appearance, newbie.

Sorry to spoil your fun but the iPAQ H1910, iPAQ H5450 definitely have better screens than your crappy Clie, and all other OS4 Clies. Dunno about OS5 clies like the NZ and NX.

[___]

Originally posted by Zork


That was then, this is now. Half a dozen killer games (GTS Racing (with absolutely nothing comparable on the PPC side), Rifle Slug II (again exclusively for POS devices), Desailly Soccer (the first real soccer for any PDA platform), Toy Races (where is Micro Machines for PPC ?), Elite (again exclusively - only still has prob with licensee), StoneAge+, ChessMaster (just the standard app for chess and again exclusively), etc. etc. ) released during the last few weeks for POS devices, while nothing were done for PPC on the other side had almost no releases.
Gaming on PPC were great once, but since the Clie started with 16 bit HiRes for POS devices it simply crashed. Now all the games are done for POS devices, while every now and then there are ports done for PPC too.
And BTW Bout action games : Dont have to mention all the action games avail for POS devices. Simple check www.palmgear.com .
And some last one : Bejeweled is full screen only on Clie and Palms, cause there both dimensions (160 * 160 or 320 * 320) are equal (which is essential for a game with 8 x 8 rows ;) ). On PPC on the other side you have the real sh*tty resolution of 320 * 240 and as you could easily see you have to leave screen space empty, cause of this unequal dimensions. So Diamond Mine is just a little bit better then the old LoRes version of Bejeweled. But compared with the HiRes one for Clies its simply stone aged :) . And I played all three of them more then long enough.

Are you kidding? Nothing comparable to GTS Racer? Ahahahahaha. Desailly soccer? That no name german ? Ahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stoneage? Ahahahahahahaaahahah! You dork, look at Rayman and stop bragging! Roflmao.

http://www.kittpeak.co.jp/racingdays/img/screen_iPAQ_02.jpg
http://media.pdarcade.com/reviews/palmos/g-l/gts/gts7.gif
http://www.palmare.cz/obrazek/MarcelDesaillyPalm_20.jpg
http://www.pcdemano.com/images/download/Reviews/Soccer/soccer9.jpg

[___]

And this time you are contradicting yourself about saying that PPC have crappy low res. Looky here, you prop 2 LOWRES palm games saying they are "all that." Laff at your ignorance.

[Leb]

Hey PPC rules idiot, how are you going to play GTS Racer with the the controls to the left?

[Jake K]

GTS is easy to play while in landscape mode. You just use the stylus for left and right directions and the other configurable buttons for gears, brake gas etc.

[Zork]

___, do the math . 320 * 240 is smaller, equal or larger then 480 * 320 ? So please either do your maths correctly or simply stop posting nonsense, lie the iPaq screen could come even near the Clie screen. Unbelievable what nonsense a few fanatics which lost contact with reality completely posting here.

[Zork]

___, isnt it nice that you posted the only screen of Soccer Addict which showed the game from a 3D position ? So you really forgot that the whole game beside penalty shooting is a simple top down compared with the today standard isometric view of Desailly Soccer ?
Nice try, PPC fanatic, but I played Soccer Addict so I know the game too good to believe in your PPC propaganda. And for all the other folks : Check Soccer Addict at for yourself. Its simply pure sh*t for every soccer fanatic (not only cause of the missing essentiell isometric view, but also cause of the contorl and bad AI).
Bout your racer : Played Racing Days in the mid of the 90s. This game is at best just a little horrible. Steering is complete **** and the graphx as you proven with your screenshot is completely dated. With GTS Racing on the other side, you have only LoRes at the contra side and amazing bitmap graphx with way more details and perfect steering on the other side. Thats why I clearly stated that GTS is the only real racer avail for PDAs.
And BTW Both HiRes versions are developed right now. So there last disadvantage is then gone too.

[batsai]

I'm sorry Zork, but I have to disagree; I am the proud owner of both an iPAQ 3955 and an NX70, I have to say that BOTH screens have advantages, and THEY ARE BOTH MADE BY SONY!

The iPAQ screen, IMHO, is brighter with better color fidelity than the NX screen. On the other hand, the higher resolution of the NX screen makes it very appealing. 320x240 is certainly not 'lo-res' and doesn't suck by any means; unless you put your nose right up to the screen, you can't see any grid lines on the 3955.

I don't really see why you are so hellbent on trying to prove one is better than the other- they are both excellent screens, and there are definitely some excellent games for the PPC platform, as there are on the Palm side- I've played plenty of them as I'm sure a lot of other people here have :D

[Jake K]

Zork, you need to calm down. There's no one, including you, that can prove that one OS is better then the other. They both have their advantages, and disadvantages.

[tsuribito]

The only reason why PPC games have better graphics is :
Pocket PC uses the Arm for quite some years now and Palm devices have just been ported to this architecture.
It can be more powerfull than the Dragonball processors.
PPC Games ported to Palm will arrive in the near future and then there will be not much difference between a PPC and a Palm. But until then the PPC People can sit in front of their expensive Ipaqs and be happy about their bright screens and forget for a while that it is a PIM Tool they are using.

[batsai]

FYI, I paid $550 for my iPAQ 3955. I paid $599 for my NX70 :D

I sit in front of BOTH machines (especially the NX70 plus game controller) and I forget I'm using a "PIM tool" :)

[Leb]

I hate stylus games, rather use the controls.

Who cares about Graphics? I started this about emulators for NES and stuff and you guys go off on graphics?

Guys guys guys, I'll settle this.

None of these games will ever compare to the old school NES and some SNES games, and a few from 64 & GB, so back off paper, scissors has just won this battle.

[___]

Originally posted by Leb
I hate stylus games, rather use the controls.

Who cares about Graphics? I started this about emulators for NES and stuff and you guys go off on graphics?

Guys guys guys, I'll settle this.

None of these games will ever compare to the old school NES and some SNES games, and a few from 64 & GB, so back off paper, scissors has just won this battle.

You can play NES at full speed on any old 200mhz PPC. You cannot (yet) play NES on any Palm OS machine. GG.

[Jake K]

Its funny, but most people think that PPC's are more expensive then OS 5 Clies.

Where I live, its $999.99 CDN for an NX70, and only $799.99 for a Wifi + bluetooth, 400 mhz Toshiba PPC.

And my 300 mhz Viewsonic was $50 cheaper then my old T665!

[JackAxe]

Any thing with SONY's name on it is jacked up.

Currently a 400Mhz Axim is only $230, the best PPC for the price. Supports both SD and CF cards. Has 48 of ROM and 64 for RAM. For reference, it's around the same size as a NR or NX. If size is an issue, then look into the HP1910, it out performs most other 200Mhz PPC and even some of the 300Mhz models.

And to be overly redundant, they're are dropping the prices on these to pave way for the new and improved, much better, faster, cooler, superior, latest and greatest, XScale PXA255. Faster then the old 206 in every way.

<]=)

[iebnn]

Originally posted by DoctorDED
Emulating GBA on PPC is or will be hard. I have an emulator on my P4 Laptop with 512M of RAM, and it's still sometimes slow. You have to keep in mind that your emulating another type of processor, and memory structure. You better of get the GBA or GBA SP. I have has the GBA for sometime and have Mario 2 and SuperMario World both are great, and cheap! You better off going with a GBA or GBA SP. If you go the GBA route, because I think there better, and better holding. I seen the prototype of the SP. If you go with GBA go here: http://www.gbalight.com/walkthrough.html This is where I made my GBA light with a cover, and it's EASY! and cheaper!

Peace!

The GBA emulator I have on my pc ran slow (at higher magnifications) until I found that it was using the GDI to blit to the screen..... I changed it to use DirectX and it ran great.

[CopyCat]

All this fuss or playing video games.

500-800 bucks to play a bunch of video games, which are emulated anyways?

Go buy a GBA or some **** if you care so much about wasteing your time with games. The only point of games I can see on a PDA is to pass 10-30 minutes whilst waiting for something.

yeesh

anyways ive said what had to be said.

[Jeffry]

Exactly. PDA's are not suppose to be utilized specifically for video games. If you want games, get an XBox, GBA, PS2 or something. But NOT a PDA.

[Leb]

I was talking about NES. suXbox, PS2, and Gamecube don't fit anywhere within the subject. Nor can PPC even emulate them. The new brand of graphic oriented video games are a waste of time for the most part, but you can't say that about the old school ones.

[iebnn]

Leb: there are a lot of very nice games for PS2. Frankly, I'd rather be playing (for example) Gran Turismo 3 with a logitech steering wheel over that F1 racing game for NES..... I'd rather play Suikoden III than play Final Fantasy 1.... I'd rather play Ace Combat 4 than play 1942... and not just because of graphics.

[___]

Originally posted by Jeffry
Exactly. PDA's are not suppose to be utilized specifically for video games. If you want games, get an XBox, GBA, PS2 or something. But NOT a PDA.

You have very bad essay skills. Even though (in your opinion) PDAs are not for video games, the argument is which PDA is best for emulation. NOT "if pdas should be utilized for video games or not." Anyways, Leb, NES is easily emulated on PPC.

[iebnn]

___: I'd suggest you stop criticizing people's grammar etc -- you tried to tell me that I was misusing the word "overhead" when I clearly was not. What's the point?

Anyway, I know this thread is about which unit is best for emulation.... but it is valid to say "It would be better to just get a GBA or something than it would to get a PPC just for emulation." That is on topic. Come to think of it, the topic of this thread is asking abotu getting a PPC for emulation...... some of us are saying "No, get a GBA instead." That is valid.

And you can even do NES emulation on a GBA.... for MUCH less cash than a PPC costs.

[Leb]

Originally posted by iebnn
Leb: there are a lot of very nice games for PS2. Frankly, I'd rather be playing (for example) Gran Turismo 3 with a logitech steering wheel over that F1 racing game for NES..... I'd rather play Suikoden III than play Final Fantasy 1.... I'd rather play Ace Combat 4 than play 1942... and not just because of graphics.

I'm more of an adverture game man, like the Mario games, and puzzle games, like Lolo. I also like older RPG's like the Final Fantasy's for Game Boy, Pokemon. I bet the modern RPG's suck, but the only modern ones I played were the Zelda ones for 64, which kicked ***.

It all depends what you like. Sports games get better, but aside from that nothing else does.

[Leb]

You can't emulate every game on GBA. You have to buy that stupid E reader. PPC is better than GBA. No carts, can emulate NES, SNES, and probably Game Gear and Sega.

[Leb]

Originally posted by CopyCat
All this fuss or playing video games.

500-800 bucks to play a bunch of video games, which are emulated anyways?

Go buy a GBA or some **** if you care so much about wasteing your time with games. The only point of games I can see on a PDA is to pass 10-30 minutes whilst waiting for something.

yeesh

anyways ive said what had to be said.

I mostly played video games when I was a kid but now I play a lot of computer games, not this shoot and kill crap, but Chess on the internet and stuff. I just stopped buying video games when I was 14 because I was more interested in saving my money than spending it. Yahoo games ARE FREE!!!!

I like the concept of emulation on a PPC. You buy one unit, and since I use warez, free emulation and free roms=no extra money to spend, no carts to carry around.

[iebnn]

Okay, PPC is definitely not better than GBA. PPC can emulate SNES games but they aren't playable. The only nintendo thing it can emulate well is NES (game boy? not GBA though. And maybe game gear, not sega genesis though)

GBA has a lot of great games. You can get a flashable cartridge for it that will let you put things on it, including a great NES emulator.

Good PPC with 400mhz cpu = around $400, MAYBE $300.
GBA = $70, plus $60 or $70 for flashable cartridge = $140 or so.
PPC has terrible buttons for games. GBA has shoulder buttons, a great dpad and two other A,B buttons (high quality for gaming... not PDA buttons).

So which would you rather play -- NES games on your PPC, or GBA games (comparable to SNES games) and NES games on your GBA (for half the cost)? And you can put GBA roms onto the flashable cartridge (not legal though..).

Oh, and you get great battery life with the GBA. And if you get the GBA SP ($30 more), you get a back light, recharable batteries and a device smaller than any PPC.

[iebnn]

There are a lot of games that get better on the new systems. Frankly, FInal Fantasy 1 is not a very good game at all. I haven't played the latest FF games, so I can't comment on them, but things like Suikoden 1 and 2 (and 3, but it's not as good as 1&2) are AMAZING.... much nicer than any NES RPG. Also, better graphics power lets you do more than just have flashy graphics -- it lets you expand the game, have more characters and buildings on the screen at once, have better AI with the better CPUs, etc... Which is why no sports/racing game on NES can compare to recent ones. And it's not just sports.... RPGs have improved as well... Well, SNES had someo f the best RPGs, but PSX had the Suikodens (amazing games)... NES had terrible RPGs. NES also had terrible fighting games.... simple punch/kick. I'd rather play Soul Calibur 2 than any NES fighting game -- and not just because of the graphics.

Why do you say "I bet the modern RPGs suck" if you haven't even tried them? Yes, some do. Some don't. Just because you may have tried one sucky FF game doesn't mean they all suck. Geez, it is NOT the only aim of every game software house to create stuff that has graphics as the main prioirity. Yes, some games are like this (with gameplay secondary), but it is certainly not 100% of the games.

BTW, Zelda is not RPG -- it is an adventure game. And mario is a platform game, not an adventure game.

[Jake K]

Originally posted by iebnn
Okay, PPC is definitely not better than GBA. PPC can emulate SNES games but they aren't playable. The only nintendo thing it can emulate well is NES (game boy? not GBA though. And maybe game gear, not sega genesis though)

GBA has a lot of great games. You can get a flashable cartridge for it that will let you put things on it, including a great NES emulator.

Good PPC with 400mhz cpu = around $400, MAYBE $300.
GBA = $70, plus $60 or $70 for flashable cartridge = $140 or so.
PPC has terrible buttons for games. GBA has shoulder buttons, a great dpad and two other A,B buttons (high quality for gaming... not PDA buttons).

So which would you rather play -- NES games on your PPC, or GBA games (comparable to SNES games) and NES games on your GBA (for half the cost)? And you can put GBA roms onto the flashable cartridge (not legal though..).

Oh, and you get great battery life with the GBA. And if you get the GBA SP ($30 more), you get a back light, recharable batteries and a device smaller than any PPC.

Snes emulation is TOTALLY possible on a PPC. With sound it is fairly slow, but without sound, its fine.

Also, you would have to get the GBA SP, because the screen is actually viewable. The GBA screens are far, far too dim, and their veiwing angles are terrible.

[iebnn]

Hm, all of what I've read about SNES emulation is that it's too slow. Is it possible now with the 400mhz xscales? What games run at playable speeds? Almost all of them?

Still, I see GBA as a much better solution. There are new games coming out all the time, it has a bunch of SNES ports or remakes, has some great RPGs, etc... And the SP is only $30 more, still very cheap. I didn't find the viewing angles in the original GBA to be a problem though. Why wouldn't you play it without it facing directly at your face? The screens were too dim, but that was easily solved by playing either under a light or by buying a $5 or $10 attachable light (yes, some of them are crappy but there are good ones that don't have glare and are even).

The SNES really has too many buttons for a PPC, so the screen is used... and that's no where near as nice as having the actual buttons.

[Jake K]

Originally posted by iebnn
Hm, all of what I've read about SNES emulation is that it's too slow. Is it possible now with the 400mhz xscales? What games run at playable speeds? Almost all of them?

Still, I see GBA as a much better solution. There are new games coming out all the time, it has a bunch of SNES ports or remakes, has some great RPGs, etc... And the SP is only $30 more, still very cheap. I didn't find the viewing angles in the original GBA to be a problem though. Why wouldn't you play it without it facing directly at your face? The screens were too dim, but that was easily solved by playing either under a light or by buying a $5 or $10 attachable light (yes, some of them are crappy but there are good ones that don't have glare and are even).

The SNES really has too many buttons for a PPC, so the screen is used... and that's no where near as nice as having the actual buttons.

I see your point.

Let's just say that all pda's are poor for gaming, when compared to a system made just for gaming.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-03-24&res=l

[hansschmucker]

Originally posted by batsai
I'm sorry Zork, but I have to disagree; I am the proud owner of both an iPAQ 3955 and an NX70, I have to say that BOTH screens have advantages, and THEY ARE BOTH MADE BY SONY!

The iPAQ screen, IMHO, is brighter with better color fidelity than the NX screen. On the other hand, the higher resolution of the NX screen makes it very appealing. 320x240 is certainly not 'lo-res' and doesn't suck by any means; unless you put your nose right up to the screen, you can't see any grid lines on the 3955.

I don't really see why you are so hellbent on trying to prove one is better than the other- they are both excellent screens, and there are definitely some excellent games for the PPC platform, as there are on the Palm side- I've played plenty of them as I'm sure a lot of other people here have :D

I personally like the NX screen better, that's why I got one, I'm too much of a pixel-fanatic to go with 320x240, but that doesn't mean 320x240 is useless, it's just not what I like and since the brightness of my NX screen is enough for me, why bother getting a PPC?

About the screen: Interesting that both screns are from Sony, since my old T615 used a Sharp display.

Games... tough one... I like my Clié games since they launch in a fraction of a second and changing back to my working apps is just as quick. Often the PPC's games look better, but are not prepared for a quick game (i.e. no saving in the middle of the game, long loading times, don't use global settings, etc.). Still I have to admit that I envy the PPC for some stuff, like nesticle.

[iebnn]

Heh, you can get a headphone adapter for $3 for the GBA SP :P

Resolution isn't everything though.... the GBA uses 320x240 IIRC, but it makes great use of it.... its games are a lot nicer to look at than most Clie games.

[hansschmucker]

Originally posted by Jeffry


Exactly. PDA's are not suppose to be utilized specifically for video games. If you want games, get an XBox, GBA, PS2 or something. But NOT a PDA.

Originally posted by ___


You have very bad essay skills. Even though (in your opinion) PDAs are not for video games, the argument is which PDA is best for emulation. NOT "if pdas should be utilized for video games or not." Anyways, Leb, NES is easily emulated on PPC.

a) Why does it matter?
b) His grammar is 100% correct.

[hansschmucker]

Originally posted by Leb


I'm more of an adverture game man, like the Mario games, and puzzle games, like Lolo. I also like older RPG's like the Final Fantasy's for Game Boy, Pokemon. I bet the modern RPG's suck, but the only modern ones I played were the Zelda ones for 64, which kicked ***.

It all depends what you like. Sports games get better, but aside from that nothing else does.

Final Fantasy (3+) never fails to amaze me. Square has the nice habbit of creating an entire new universe for each game, that's why one game is NEVER like the previous one.

[iebnn]

I think he was referring to the typo "suppose" instead of "supposed." Or maybe "essay skills" as in your skill at presenting an idea. Either way, he's an idiot.

[iebnn]

hans: the new final fantasies are sequals to some of the older ones :P

And check out Suikoden 1-3... they are really good, albeit lesser-known RPGs for PSX/PS2. Also great examples of how graphics aren't the most important thing in a game.

[hansschmucker]

Originally posted by iebnn
Heh, you can get a headphone adapter for $3 for the GBA SP :P

Resolution isn't everything though.... the GBA uses 320x240 IIRC, but it makes great use of it.... its games are a lot nicer to look at than most Clie games.

Hm... my problem with the GBA isn't actually the res. What gives me a headache is the missing backlight.
Well, Nintendo is supposed to have one in their new GBA.

About res... You're right, problem is, I use my Clié for other stuff as well and writing text is so much more enjoyable on 320x480.

[iebnn]

The new GBA SP is $100 instead of $70, is a lot smaller and lighter, has a lighted screen (still no backlight, it's a frontlight :D same thing basically), and has rechargable batteries.

[Jeffry]

Originally posted by ___


You have very bad essay skills. Even though (in your opinion) PDAs are not for video games, the argument is which PDA is best for emulation. NOT "if pdas should be utilized for video games or not." Anyways, Leb, NES is easily emulated on PPC.

Yes I admit, I have "very" bad essay skills -- but who cares??? I'm trying to break the argument by suggesting people that if they want to play games, get something else. Gameboy Advance SP for instance, is suitable for that purpose.

[iebnn]

BTW a "crappy" PPC will not be able to emulate much more than NES probably.

[___]

Originally posted by hansschmucker




a) Why does it matter?
b) His grammar is 100% correct.

You think "essay writing skills" means grammar? Laffs.

[___]

Originally posted by iebnn
___: I'd suggest you stop criticizing people's grammar etc -- you tried to tell me that I was misusing the word "overhead" when I clearly was not. What's the point?

Anyway, I know this thread is about which unit is best for emulation.... but it is valid to say "It would be better to just get a GBA or something than it would to get a PPC just for emulation." That is on topic. Come to think of it, the topic of this thread is asking abotu getting a PPC for emulation...... some of us are saying "No, get a GBA instead." That is valid.

And you can even do NES emulation on a GBA.... for MUCH less cash than a PPC costs.

I have not corrected his grammar. Essay writing skills means, not only grammar, but also arguments and supporting details. His argument is irrelevant to the main argument. I suggest you practice your reading comprehension iebnn.

[iebnn]

___: I said "Grammar etc." I wasn't just referring to that one person. I was referring to all of the people whose grammar etc. you have been criticizing. I suggest you practice your reading comprehension ___.

[OcellNuri]

Originally posted by ___


You think "essay writing skills" means grammar? Laffs.

I saw this word "Laffs". I like to think I have listened in school, but I have never encountered this word. No problem though. I have reasources availible and I will use them. I went to www.dictionary.com and looked up "Laffs". The site could not find a match for that word, but it did find "Luffs". This is obviously what you ment to type. No one is perfect, and I know we all make typos, so I'm always willing to forgive a simple typo ;). Here is the given meaning of "Luffs".

v. luffed, luff·ing, luffs
v. intr.
To steer a sailing vessel closer into the wind, especially with the sails flapping.
To flap while losing wind. Used of a sail.


I have to say, this was a very witty use of the word "luff". I am impressed to see such a versed post from you, given your history. So, you are saying that your argument is losing wind? So to say, you are running out of mindless arguments to use against other people for no reason? Great to see this has come to light. I must say though, many of us saw it long before you came to this realization.

[___]

Originally posted by OcellNuri


I saw this word "Laffs". I like to think I have listened in school, but I have never encountered this word. No problem though. I have reasources availible and I will use them. I went to www.dictionary.com and looked up "Laffs". The site could not find a match for that word, but it did find "Luffs". This is obviously what you ment to type. No one is perfect, and I know we all make typos, so I'm always willing to forgive a simple typo ;). Here is the given meaning of "Luffs".

v. luffed, luff·ing, luffs
v. intr.
To steer a sailing vessel closer into the wind, especially with the sails flapping.
To flap while losing wind. Used of a sail.


I have to say, this was a very witty use of the word "luff". I am impressed to see such a versed post from you, given your history. So, you are saying that your argument is losing wind? So to say, you are running out of mindless arguments to use against other people for no reason? Great to see this has come to light. I must say though, many of us saw it long before you came to this realization.

Laffs. You spelled available wrong.

[CopyCat]

why do you have 2 dudes kissing in your signature?

[hansschmucker]

I have a question, PPC boy:

Is annoying people really the only use you can make of your life. Don't you have anything usefull to do in the world around you? I wouldn't mind you hanging out here. I don't even mind posts which favour PPC over Palm/Clié. But what you do know is just childish, it's like talking to a three year old baby. And no, I don't mean your style of writing (I learn English as a foreign language, so my style is probably worse than yours and I make a lot of typos as well), but your way of argumentation. You ask people to do stuff you certainly don't.

Now, get a life, or at least get out of here!

[Leb]

Originally posted by iebnn
Okay, PPC is definitely not better than GBA. PPC can emulate SNES games but they aren't playable. The only nintendo thing it can emulate well is NES (game boy? not GBA though. And maybe game gear, not sega genesis though)

GBA has a lot of great games. You can get a flashable cartridge for it that will let you put things on it, including a great NES emulator.

Good PPC with 400mhz cpu = around $400, MAYBE $300.
GBA = $70, plus $60 or $70 for flashable cartridge = $140 or so.
PPC has terrible buttons for games. GBA has shoulder buttons, a great dpad and two other A,B buttons (high quality for gaming... not PDA buttons).

So which would you rather play -- NES games on your PPC, or GBA games (comparable to SNES games) and NES games on your GBA (for half the cost)? And you can put GBA roms onto the flashable cartridge (not legal though..).

Oh, and you get great battery life with the GBA. And if you get the GBA SP ($30 more), you get a back light, recharable batteries and a device smaller than any PPC.


Are you saying GBA is better than NES? LOL NEVER. GBA IS FOR KIDS BUT THE NES CLASSICS WILL LIVE ON FOREVER.

[Leb]

Originally posted by Jake K


I see your point.

Let's just say that all pda's are poor for gaming, when compared to a system made just for gaming.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-03-24&res=l

THAT WAS SUCH A GREAT COMIC!

Today's stupid kids don't realize that Nintendo made GBA a piece of crap and kept releasing the oldies instead of new games so that the kids would buy all of those, and now upgrade to GBA SP and maybe Nintendo will release a few new Mario's. That comic is priceless.

[Leb]

Originally posted by ___


I have not corrected his grammar. Essay writing skills means, not only grammar, but also arguments and supporting details. His argument is irrelevant to the main argument. I suggest you practice your reading comprehension iebnn.


Dam, even I didn't see that one, that was a great one, ___.

Welcome to my side, props to you man.

[Leb]

Originally posted by OcellNuri


I saw this word "Laffs". I like to think I have listened in school, but I have never encountered this word. No problem though. I have reasources availible and I will use them. I went to www.dictionary.com and looked up "Laffs". The site could not find a match for that word, but it did find "Luffs". This is obviously what you ment to type. No one is perfect, and I know we all make typos, so I'm always willing to forgive a simple typo ;). Here is the given meaning of "Luffs".

v. luffed, luff·ing, luffs
v. intr.
To steer a sailing vessel closer into the wind, especially with the sails flapping.
To flap while losing wind. Used of a sail.


I have to say, this was a very witty use of the word "luff". I am impressed to see such a versed post from you, given your history. So, you are saying that your argument is losing wind? So to say, you are running out of mindless arguments to use against other people for no reason? Great to see this has come to light. I must say though, many of us saw it long before you came to this realization.

Quit being an idiot, you know what he meant, you are just nitpicking and looking for trouble. He didn't pick on anyone's spelling, he just said that some people can't argue.

[Leb]

Originally posted by hansschmucker
I have a question, PPC boy:

Is annoying people really the only use you can make of your life. Don't you have anything usefull to do in the world around you? I wouldn't mind you hanging out here. I don't even mind posts which favour PPC over Palm/Clié. But what you do know is just childish, it's like talking to a three year old baby. And no, I don't mean your style of writing (I learn English as a foreign language, so my style is probably worse than yours and I make a lot of typos as well), but your way of argumentation. You ask people to do stuff you certainly don't.

Now, get a life, or at least get out of here!

He's not annoying anyone, unless you define annoying as him being right in the first place, you not knowing what essay means, him explaining it to you, and you now realize that he is right but don't want to admit that you are wrong.

[iebnn]

Originally posted by Leb



Are you saying GBA is better than NES? LOL NEVER. GBA IS FOR KIDS BUT THE NES CLASSICS WILL LIVE ON FOREVER.

And NES wasn't for kids?

Anyway, if you had actually read my messages you'd see that you can get an NES emulator for GBA. ANd it's still cheaper than a PPC.

[iebnn]

Originally posted by Leb


THAT WAS SUCH A GREAT COMIC!

Today's stupid kids don't realize that Nintendo made GBA a piece of crap and kept releasing the oldies instead of new games so that the kids would buy all of those, and now upgrade to GBA SP and maybe Nintendo will release a few new Mario's. That comic is priceless.

The comic is supposed to be funny, and not exactly show the truth (seeing as the adapter to use headphones costs like $3).

They aren't releasing "oldies." Very few of the games are direct ports of SNES games. How can you say this? There are a lot of new games for GBA. And relatively few mario games for GBA. Anyway, even if they did only release "oldies," you seem to be a diehard fan of NES -- why would you have a problem with this? Before you make such ignorant comments please look into it first.

[iebnn]

Originally posted by Leb


Quit being an idiot, you know what he meant, you are just nitpicking and looking for trouble. He didn't pick on anyone's spelling, he just said that some people can't argue.

That post was made just for its comical value. ___ has been correcting people's grammar and spelling in many threads for a while now, not just this thread (this was the first time I've seen him say "essay skills" rather than just grammar or spelling). He tried telling me that I was misusing the word "overhead" when referring to an aspect of computer software. He posted a dictionary definition of the word, but failed to realize that words have multiple definitions (I found the correct one in 10 seconds on dictionary.com).

[iebnn]

Originally posted by Leb


He's not annoying anyone, unless you define annoying as him being right in the first place, you not knowing what essay means, him explaining it to you, and you now realize that he is right but don't want to admit that you are wrong.

He has been annoying people in here for weeks. This is a Palm OS forum -- he posts many baised opinions comparing PPC to Palm OS, states many ignorant and false things about the two operating systems, and constantly corrects people's grammar and spelling (when most of the time he is incorrect). Wouldn't it annoy you if I posted a dictionary defition of every word you misused (or every word I thought you were misusing), or said your grammar was wrong?

[iebnn]

Geez, how can it NOT be considered annoying when someone replies to your message directed at him and he simply points out a typo you made and laughs at it?

Just because he's not annoying oyu doesn't mean he's not annoying anyone else.

Oh no, I think ___ might attack me now because I typed "oyu" instead of "you" by accident.....

[hansschmucker]

____:
Essay writing skills means, not only grammar, but also arguments and supporting details. His argument is irrelevant to the main argument

skills means? only third person, singular (he/she/it) gets an s, not third person plural.

arguments...argument...argument:
repetition (-1 during exams: style)

also, no comma after mean

Wouldn't it annoy you to find something like that below every post, along with a page-filling ASCII art? It's just childish.

[Jake K]

What is a typo really?

Is it simply a mistake that accidentally occurs while typing?

Or is it something more?

Webster's Dictionary describes a typo as "an error (as of spelling) in typed or typeset material"

But what if typo's did mean something more...?

Possibly subconsciously, or even at a deeper level, we strive to make simple errors to allow others to correct them, reinforcing other people's belief that no one is perfect.

What does this all mean?

Absolutely nothing.

[iebnn]

:) ___ doesn't seem to understand that all humans on computers make mistakes in their typing. ___ makes his share of mistakes as well. And we don't all have perfect grammar, but you don't have to criticize us for it. Try doing that in real life to who ever talks to you.

[Jake K]

Originally posted by iebnn
:) ___ doesn't seem to understand that all humans on computers make mistakes in their typing. ___ makes his share of mistakes as well. And we don't all have perfect grammar, but you don't have to criticize us for it. Try doing that in real life to who ever talks to you.

That usually would end in a punch in the nose!

[iebnn]

I'm dumb! I know nothing about PPC but make many claims that are completely biased.

[iebnn]

:)

wow

[Leb]

Originally posted by iebnn


The comic is supposed to be funny, and not exactly show the truth (seeing as the adapter to use headphones costs like $3).

They aren't releasing "oldies." Very few of the games are direct ports of SNES games. How can you say this? There are a lot of new games for GBA. And relatively few mario games for GBA. Anyway, even if they did only release "oldies," you seem to be a diehard fan of NES -- why would you have a problem with this? Before you make such ignorant comments please look into it first.

New games suck. Either you shoot people or the graphics are good or both.

[Leb]

Originally posted by iebnn


That post was made just for its comical value. ___ has been correcting people's grammar and spelling in many threads for a while now, not just this thread (this was the first time I've seen him say "essay skills" rather than just grammar or spelling). He tried telling me that I was misusing the word "overhead" when referring to an aspect of computer software. He posted a dictionary definition of the word, but failed to realize that words have multiple definitions (I found the correct one in 10 seconds on dictionary.com).

Ok, good comeback. I still stand behind what I said, moreso to other people now.

[iebnn]

Originally posted by Leb


New games suck. Either you shoot people or the graphics are good or both.

You are a very misinformed person. Which new games have you tried? Why not have a bit of a more open mind, instead of the close minded (and completely illogical) opinion of "All new games suck"?

[ackmondual]

GTS Racing on pOS doesn't work out as well anymore. 1st off, hi-res+ is only for Zodiac, 2nd Graffiti control doesn't work out well for my z71 nor T3. Everytime i touch the Graffiti area, the game slows down. Very noticable, bad slowdown on the z71. On a T3, it's better, about 80% normal game speed, but it's still annoying none of the less. Buttons work fine, but racing games like GTS work better with "variable turning" (e.g. in MicroQuad, you can turn normally with buttons or use in conjunction with brakes to easily tackle tight corners... u can't do that with button control in GTS.)

To the ppl who say PS2, XBOX, and GC are MUCH better in gaming.... won't argue that. But you can't take any of them with you to play on the road, waiting 30 minutes in a MVA line, or for those of us with a one hour commute to work via subway/bus. NES emus on PDA will easily enable that.

GBA is better than PPC, Zods, and pOS in general for games, but how easy is it load, setup, and run NES emu for GBA... and then find and load the roms for it?

[iebnn]

Wow this is an old thread. I remember this thread.

Using a GBA for NES roms is just about as easy as using a Palm for them. Plus they're easier to play.

And there are better games than NES roms now, with the large GBA library (similar to SNES games) and the NintendoDS. Stop arguing so much about games.