running avantgo from memory stick

[donaldekelly]

This is probably asking a lot of a beta - but is there a way to run avantgo from the memory stick? Does Power Run do the job?

Thanks

[Narniahopper]

PowerRun does not do the job. I tried a program called Avantage, available from Palmgear, but I couldn't get it to work either (on my NZ). For now, that I know of, there is no way to do it.

[ojleblanc]

There is a post in another thread (don't remember which one) that says Avantgo has a setting that lets you sync to memory stick. I tried it on my NX but got fatal alerts each time. Its somewhere under options-server-settings button, check "enable sync to card" or something like that.

It didn't work for me, the person who posted said it worked for them.

[ojleblanc]

BTW, PowerRun can do the job (for the most part). If you are hotsyncing with a cradle or a cable that has a button for hotsyncing then you can sync Avantgo to the memory stick via PowerRun. Here's what I do... After putting Avantgo on the memory stick using PowerRun, I simply put the Clie in the cradle, launch avantgo (so its now in RAM), then press the hotsync botton. Since Avangto is in RAM, the information is updated. When I exit Avantgo, the updated info in RAM is moved back to the memory stick.

The only problem I've had with this strategy is syncing with a cable that does not have a button to press. Not having the button means that I cannot have Avantgo "running" when I initiate the hotsync, since I'd have to do it via the hotsync software instead of the hotsync hardware.

Try this. It works fine.

[flyclieguy]

there is a new program that you can get to allow the run of avantgo off the ms. go to pdastreet.com I think I saw it there.

[quiller]

actually, with the OS5 beta of AvantGo, it's built-in. install the beta (http://www.avantgo.com/os5beta) and sync. go to Options > Server Preferences > Settings... and click the "Use Card" box (last option). Exit the program and sync again and AvantGo will move your databases to the memory stick for you.

Coupled with one of the more featured-filled launchers (zLauncher, YiShow, etc) you can move AvantGo to the card and use about 10k of space from internal memory.

[donaldekelly]

Ah - the update on the beta says you can move the database to MS but not the actual program - yet. They are working on it.

I am not sure I understood all of your responses fully, but at least a few of them say one can move the database to MS - which I did and it works pretty well. As you say only 10k in the internal memory. Good enough.

[sheik28]

Here is how to do it with avant go (at least this is what has worked for me)... You can move the avant go app. itself to memory stick BUT you MUST leave AGConnect in RAM and you must name your memory stick.

To name a MS you  launch Card Info. then choose menu and choose rename card.

After you have named your MS, launch AGConnect and choose settings... Make sure there is a check mark in the box for Use card and make sure the card name is the name of the MS that you just set. hit OK and make sure that Update During Next Sync is checked. HotSync and you should be good to go.

That should be it...if  I missed anything I apologize.

Like I stated above..this is what works for me, in the cradle or wireless.

Good Luck.;)

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by sheik28
Here is how to do it with avant go (at least this is what has worked for me)... You can move the avant go app. itself to memory stick BUT you MUST leave AGConnect in RAM and you must name your memory stick.

To name a MS you  launch Card Info. then choose menu and choose rename card.

After you have named your MS, launch AGConnect and choose settings... Make sure there is a check mark in the box for Use card and make sure the card name is the name of the MS that you just set. hit OK and make sure that Update During Next Sync is checked. HotSync and you should be good to go.

That should be it...if  I missed anything I apologize.

Like I stated above..this is what works for me, in the cradle or wireless.

Good Luck.;)

I concur, of course I named my card "card", yeah I know, how original :)!

I placed the main AvantGo app in the /Palm/Launcher folder and selected the card option. It's a bit slow, but it does work. Same here with cradle/wireless hotsync. AvantGo beta is one of the rew apps that syncs to the memory stick via wireless. Now any usage of RAM is greatly diminished.

Some have suggested Avantage, that worked on the older pda's and earlier versions of AG.

[quiller]

sheik28
those are the same instructions i gave except for the naming of the card item. i never thought of that-- who doesn't give their card a cool name like "Joe" or "Harry"?

[gambit_b]

the new beta will sync to your stick. just make sure you leave the agconnect in the ram and go in and put a check in the box for use card in the settings. mine had the name of the stick already there. if you already had the old version like i did make sure you delete both avantgo and agconnect or it will not work. i forgot to delete the agconnect at first and it would not work. the clie would lock up, give an error message and tell me to reset.

[Mark Benham]

I use Avantage.
I am currently testing Ver. 1.7.
It works perfectly on my NX70.
The coolest feature is it will allow you to set a sync window.
My avantgo account will only sync form 6am to 10am.
This way I do not have to suffer through the long sync the rest of the day.

[UI018397]

Without using Avantage,
what do you need in internal memory to have Avantgo running properly ?

AGConnect..... what else ?

[gambit_b]

you need the new beta version of avantgo and to leave the agconnect part in ram. i installed the whole thing in ram and then moved the avantgo part to the stick. there is a setting to tell it to sync to the stick. make sure you uninstall the old version including the agconnect part.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by gambit_b
you need the new beta version of avantgo and to leave the agconnect part in ram. i installed the whole thing in ram and then moved the avantgo part to the stick. there is a setting to tell it to sync to the stick. make sure you uninstall the old version including the agconnect part.

Right!!! I put AvantGo BETA 5 in the Launcher folder, the app places everything else on the MS with the card option selected.

You do NOT need Avantage!!!

Yes, you can hotsync via cradle/wireless.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by UI018397
Without using Avantage,
what do you need in internal memory to have Avantgo running properly ?

AGConnect..... what else ?

That's basically it except for some crumbs of db's. Syncing to the MS is slow, not a high speed endeavor. No need for Avantage. Remember this is only applicable for the BETA 5.x VERSIONS ONLY! 

[aussie_nx70v]

if you move the Avantgo app (via conventional methods) into a stick you will save you around 700k, however if you move the Avantgo app into the stick with Powerrun you will save around 2mb !!

Now theres pros and cons for each method.

Moving it conventionally:

You basically can sync normally. That is the sony treats it like any other app it has to sync with your pc. You dont have to do anything special to get it to work.

Moving it Powerrun.

You cant sync it 'normally'. You have to have it open in order for it to sync. That is, run Avantgo from the cradle so the program can load into RAM. Then do a Hotsync. This should work fine. This particular method was described by another user in a previous post.

If you dont run in you will get an 'error' message, stating something along the lines of 'current version'. Thats not a problem for me. In fact i treat it as a reminder.

I find that gaining an extra meg or ram (or more) is worth the extra fiddling.

What does everyone else think?

[quiller]

Originally posted by aussie_nx70v
if you move the Avantgo app (via conventional methods) into a stick you will save you around 700k, however if you move the Avantgo app into the stick with Powerrun you will save around 2mb !!
you are going to save 2mb, but for me i only have 800k of AvantGo channels. the size of the database depends entirely on how many channels you have selected. also, with the OS5 beta there's no reason to move the entire thing to MS with PowerRun, just the PRC itself and have AvantGo manage the MS. Saves on load time and still gives you the maximum saved space on RAM.

[aussie_nx70v]

the memory savings are only as an example of what could be done. these savings are based on my usage patterns, however im not a real big user of avantgo so i think there would be a few users in the same position as myself.

load time is a big factor. i forgot to mention that using Avantgo via Powerrun is much slower, however i still find it better than having it moved via conventional methods.

I think we are all spoilt by how quick programs load and run on the Sony. How many of us have PC's that load programs instantly? A few seconds isnt going to kill me.....

remember ram is a precious resource on our NX. Every bit counts.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by aussie_nx70v
the memory savings are only as an example of what could be done. these savings are based on my usage patterns, however im not a real big user of avantgo so i think there would be a few users in the same position as myself.

load time is a big factor. i forgot to mention that using Avantgo via Powerrun is much slower, however i still find it better than having it moved via conventional methods.

I think we are all spoilt by how quick programs load and run on the Sony. How many of us have PC's that load programs instantly? A few seconds isnt going to kill me.....

remember ram is a precious resource on our NX. Every bit counts.

First, PowerRun is NOT necessary, but yes you can use it, I wanted to make this clear. It runs fine from the launcher folder no matter what launcher is used. It syncs just fine all by itself, no extra's needed.

2mb for some is a very big deal and for some, it can be considerably more.

[donaldekelly]

How do you distinguish the older version from the newer one? I loaded them both on by mistake and now I need to delete one of them.

AGCapsMQ
AGHistory
AGNewsMQ
AGNTSHMQ
AGOIRqMQ
AGPreference
AGVersion
AvGoDeviceInfo

Are these old or new AvantGo files?
I am Clie Files Data Management tool

[aussie_nx70v]

why dont you just delete everything and start again. your not going to lose anything since all the channels are taken off the Avantgo site. Your settings there will remain the same, no matter what you do on the device and your pc.