I am so diggin' the i-mate JAM

[phsv]

After reading this review:
http://geek.com/hwswrev/pda/jam/index.htm
and this other one from HoFo
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=511311&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

I can't help but start thinking about getting this instead of the Treo 650. Only major drawback would be that I would have to start from scratch with a PPC and not a Palm device. I so would love for the Palm Treo to be this stable and powerful.


What would you do in my shoes?

Your thoughs would be appreciated.

[phsv]

Ah, come anybody have any thought on this smartphone?

[ojleblanc]

Wow! I had no idea it was so much smaller than the PDA2k. I considered the PDA2k after PalmOne raised the price of the unlocked Treo 650 by $100k.

The iMate looks interesting, though. I can see why you are considering it.

[phsv]

Well, I am looking for a smartphone to use w/ T-Mobile and dont have a need/money to buy an 'unlocked' phone. So, I am wondering when either the Treo 650 and JAM are going to be available in the states. (if ever)

[TMann]

Well, I am looking for a smartphone to use w/ T-Mobile and dont have a need/money to buy an 'unlocked' phone. So, I am wondering when either the Treo 650 and JAM are going to be available in the states. (if ever)

A gal at on of my local T-mobile stores, thought it would be "several months" before T-mobile got the Treo 650. Bummer...

However, if you're looking for an i-Mate this web seller here (http://www.dweiniger.com/) can sell you an unlocked i-Mate JAM, and will get you a $120 discount if you sign up for T-mobile, (discounted price $489.)

TMann

[phsv]

TMann,

I appreciate the link. I was looking at that earlier but I wonder if I would qualify for the $120 if I decide to extend my contract for another year with T-Mobile.

Yeah, regarding the Treo 650, heard/read around forums that it probably won't be till late March / April until T-Mobile carries it.

The i-mate is very tempting but it would mean to start from scratch regarding software. :(

[phsv]

I contacted David, from that website TMann posted, and asked him about the $120 discount and here's what he informed me:

I can't offer you anything for renewal, but if you go to a regional dealer, i'm sure you could get a free phone or $50 to $100 back for renewing,

especially with the $19.99 data renewal. I would say that they are getting at least $200 for renewing you. As a national dealer i can activate

anyone, anywhere in the 50 states, but i can't get the same commission for renewals as a regional dealer does.

i don't expect i US carrier to sell this device

[DennisOS2]

After reading this review:
http://geek.com/hwswrev/pda/jam/index.htm
and this other one from HoFo
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=511311&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

I can't help but start thinking about getting this instead of the Treo 650. Only major drawback would be that I would have to start from scratch with a PPC and not a Palm device. I so would love for the Palm Treo to be this stable and powerful.


What would you do in my shoes?

Your thoughs would be appreciated.Looks like a yawn. Don't know what you mean by stable. The most unstable of modern-day OSes is Windows and ALL of it variants including PPC or CE. Powerful? iJam have a large battery? Otherwise, it may have a feature or two the Treo doesn't have, but this concept or PPC power or capabilities has been discussed elsewhere on this board .............. PPCs have no capabilities over the PalmOS.

[phsv]

Dennis, I wouldn't know from firsthand experience. I do not own either devices. I am just mentioning what I have read in other forums like HoFo and TC.

So with that in mind what I meant to say was from reading those forums I haven't seen many compalints about the iJam in comparison to all those 'resets' from the Treo. That was it.

But I would say it is hard to compare them both when they are both different operating systems.

[DennisOS2]

Dennis, I wouldn't know from firsthand experience. I do not own either devices. I am just mentioning what I have read in other forums like HoFo and TC.

So with that in mind what I meant to say was from reading those forums I haven't seen many compalints about the iJam in comparison to all those 'resets' from the Treo. That was it.

But I would say it is hard to compare them both when they are both different operating systems.Its dangerous spreading forum talk about any product. It serves little purpose especially if forum chatter turns into gospel. Resets happen with all devices ........... lock-ups, too ........ just more with PPC OR CE devices. On any *individual* PDA or post, do you know if its the OS or the setup or errant app(s)? About the iJam and no complaints ..... how many sold in comparison to the Treo? Any dedicated boards? If so it would be helpful if you're going to comment to let others know where they are. Thanks.

[phsv]

To calm the masses: *smile*

HowardForums: Pocket PC Forum
http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=181&daysprune=30&sortorder=desc&sortfield=lastpost&perpage=40&pagenumber=5

HowardForums: Pocket PC: Review of i-Jam from BengalBoy and others
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=511311&highlight=%2Bbengalboy+%2Bimate+%2Bjam

TreoCentral.com: Treo 650 Hardware
http://discussion.treocentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=70

TreoCentral.com: Treo650 Articles (reset related & how to fix em)
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=74159
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=72314
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=73866


I could be wrong, but it seems that you just have be very careful installing certain software in the Treo 650 and just keep note of them so you can detect what caused the crashes.

Dennis, hope this doesn't become a 'lets see who can find more articles online about this and that' but you were right it is good to have a the sources to where the information was gotten from.

Take Care.

[DennisOS2]

Dennis, hope this doesn't become a 'lets see who can find more articles online about this and that' but you were right it is good to have a the sources to where the information was gotten from.

Take Care.
Absolutely not. And I'm sure you'd like that job? As I eluded in the earlier post ........ passing forum posts and links both good and bad should be limited if done at all. I'm sure that as with most of the people on this board they have already read your links.

Additionally, its rather odd that someone comes into a Palm based forum where people are looking for info, help on their Palm based PDAs and have this person ranting and raving about something totally unrelated to the Palm based products. Gotta wonder. I'm happy for you that you can 'so dig' something ........ but, so what? I 'so promise' that if I look for something other than a Palm-based PDA next time I'll 'so look you up' for a recommendation! 'So ...... ok'? Be cool :)

[phsv]

Funny thing is that I might just end up getting a Treo 650 when/if it's available from T-Mobile.

:)

[a-non-o-mous]

Hahaha... "looks like a yawn" Well, there's one in every crowd I suppose... Keep drinking the kool aid. I dont understand how this bizarre brand zealousness develops in a world where ultra-cool devices are coming from every angle. Enjoy the view from the tunnel!

[WWJD?]

After reading this review:
http://geek.com/hwswrev/pda/jam/index.htm
and this other one from HoFo
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=511311&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

I can't help but start thinking about getting this instead of the Treo 650. Only major drawback would be that I would have to start from scratch with a PPC and not a Palm device. I so would love for the Palm Treo to be this stable and powerful.


What would you do in my shoes?

Your thoughs would be appreciated.

Having had experience with both Palm OS and Windows Mobile OS based devices, I personally will go with a Palm OS based device for a PDA/Phone combination device simply because, PalmOS is much more efficient and straight forward. While it may not have all the bells and whistles of the Window Mobile based device, its simplicity is unbeatable.

Windows Mobile devices, while very stable, suffer from memory leak which requires/forces you to reset the device to regain back the memory which the built in OS applications and other 3rd Party applications refuse to give up even after you "properly" closed them already. doing mandatory resets isn;t very productive nor is it fun to do. If/when Windows Mobile OS can solve the memory leak then I think Palm will be in trouble.

PalmOne needs to address the memory handling issues of the Treo 650 though before more and more people starts to switch to Windows Mobile

[DennisOS2]

Hahaha... "looks like a yawn" Well, there's one in every crowd I suppose... Keep drinking the kool aid. I dont understand how this bizarre brand zealousness develops in a world where ultra-cool devices are coming from every angle. Enjoy the view from the tunnel!In other words, if I agreed with your position .......... I wouldn't be in a tunnel, or just another one? But I *would* be 'ultra-cool' and sooooo diggin it, too ........ just like you??? Let's agree ......... I'll keep drinking my Kool-aid and you be very careful what you're putting in your's.

[zwuncki]

After reading this review:
http://geek.com/hwswrev/pda/jam/index.htm
and this other one from HoFo
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=511311&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

I can't help but start thinking about getting this instead of the Treo 650. Only major drawback would be that I would have to start from scratch with a PPC and not a Palm device. I so would love for the Palm Treo to be this stable and powerful.


What would you do in my shoes?

Your thoughs would be appreciated.

I owned the imate jam aka MDA Compact.

it really is nice, small, handy, functional.

BUT: very very bad sound quality when it comes to calling someone. not that good is the radio reception. i had many probelms while travelling by train.

so as a mini pda: really good
as a cellphone: not recommended

just my opinion.

maybe i was really unkucky with this piece, maybe others are different. i wouldn't buy it again.

but a really nice, small pda. not recommended for watching movies...

[DennisOS2]

I owned the imate jam aka MDA Compact.

it really is nice, small, handy, functional.

BUT: very very bad sound quality when it comes to calling someone. not that good is the radio reception. i had many probelms while travelling by train.

so as a mini pda: really good
as a cellphone: not recommended

just my opinion.

maybe i was really unkucky with this piece, maybe others are different. i wouldn't buy it again.

but a really nice, small pda. not recommended for watching movies...
Gets down to what you buy the unit for. A Phone? A PDA? And entertainment tool? Currently there isn't one unit that is good at all functions. Many trade-offs. You've seen many PPC PDAs and phones? Take a look at a Palm smartphone like the Treo650. Not perfect at all. But worth a look IF you're looking for a phone with very good PDA functions.

Watching movies? Look at the T|T5 or the NX80 with a CF card. Large screens, great colors and brightness. Good movie players, too.

[phsv]

zwuncki, thanks for your input regaring the i-mate. Will really keep this in mind when checking for smartphone w/ T-Mobile. I am rooting for the 650.

[zwuncki]

yeah me too. i had to return the treo600 because i couldn't here anything when calling someone.

but it really was great. great radio reception and sound quality. amazing keyboard, even more amazing integrated in the palm os.

i now ordered a HTC blue angel. you never know. if it's bad, well i sell it again ( i realized a pda phone or handy without a keyboard: not for me).

but i really can't wait for the treo650 being released in germany.

for videos i have to make a step to PPC (x50v), cause VGA is great regarding video playing on a PDA. it's thge only true thing.

so i also own a sony ux50 to not lose touch with palm, which i like more then WM.

[phsv]

yeah me too. i had to return the treo600 because i couldn't here anything when calling someone.

but it really was great. great radio reception and sound quality. amazing keyboard, even more amazing integrated in the palm os.

i now ordered a HTC blue angel. you never know. if it's bad, well i sell it again ( i realized a pda phone or handy without a keyboard: not for me).

but i really can't wait for the treo650 being released in germany.

for videos i have to make a step to PPC (x50v), cause VGA is great regarding video playing on a PDA. it's thge only true thing.

so i also own a sony ux50 to not lose touch with palm, which i like more then WM.

So how many deviices do you usually carry with you? Thought the purpose of a 'smartphone' was to carry less? *smiling*

What is that HTC blue angel?

[zwuncki]

all the devices are always up2date. so i carry only one with me (mabye 2 weeks in a row). but i have the choice which one. i really can't decide between smartphone, PPC with VGA oder the sony ux50 (with it's great keyboard, BT, WiFI etc.). that's my problem.

the blue angel ist the MDA3

the MDA3 with VGA oder the Treo650 with Wifi (without a card) would be perfect.

my dream device would be: WiFi, BT, IrDa, VGA Display (at least 3,5"display), GSM (quadband), keyboard, high processor and long lasting battery.

MDA3 is at the moment the one with the best prefs. but the treo650 is quite small and has a good battery. so i don't know.

let's wait.

maybe an MDACompact with wifi and keyboard :D

i still don't get it why palmone didn't integrate WiFi in such an expensive device (in germany about 800$)

[phsv]

i still don't get it why palmone didn't integrate WiFi in such an expensive device (in germany about 800$)

Oh, because that's a feature that we don't want in our pda/smartphones (according to Palm research) :eek:

[zwuncki]

LOL what?

OMG.

i would understand if the device would be cheaper. but it's as expensive as f.e. a MDA3 with wifi, big screen, also keyboard, much more memory etc.

i honestly don't get it.

but ok. hope you like your new device whatever it will be. :)