View Full Version : Sony 1GB Stick!
George M
03-21-2003, 12:11 AM
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=7A8uXXCZ95AuSU7jQAYkVj-JaQo2xLAPU84=?CatalogCategoryID=XFsKC0%2eNCNMAAAD0sBpglwJJ&ProductID=sAsKC0%2eNOSEAAAD0PdZglwJN&Dept=acc
stronggeek
03-21-2003, 12:49 AM
Only thing is that all 3 ms pros list "out of stock" :)
YTTAN
03-21-2003, 01:49 AM
Over here just launcher tonight!!!
fc2003
03-21-2003, 03:37 AM
Saw a 512MB MS today in Sony Shop selling at US$318 in Hong Kong.
Marudine
03-21-2003, 04:29 AM
One question : Will you guys buy the 1Gb MS at that price ???
n2ifp
03-21-2003, 05:47 AM
Hello! One caveat, the MS Pro driver is still necessary for proper operation! Sony has NOT released the driver yet, maybe at the end of the month, from what others have said.
jedix
03-21-2003, 06:02 AM
I can't decide if I should buy a 512 mb ms now and wai for the driver, or wait to buy the ms once the driver is released.
n2ifp
03-21-2003, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by jedix
I can't decide if I should buy a 512 mb ms now and wai for the driver, or wait to buy the ms once the driver is released.
I don't know if there is any left currently. If you buy it, just keep in mind that it needs the driver and don't get frustrated with it. Biggest issue it seems is with mp3's and movies without the driver.
jedix
03-21-2003, 09:30 AM
I know, I've read that. If I bought one now, I wouldn't even attempt to use it until the driver came out. I would just get it because I found one available. Actually, I've seen a website or two that previously stated "out of stock" which now state "in stock" Now just to remember which websites they were and whether they actually had them or not....hmmmm.....
oneeyesquare
03-21-2003, 09:46 AM
I'll wait... (mostly cuz I don't have any extra mad money and I ordered a 2nd battery)
jedix
03-21-2003, 09:48 AM
I would really like to get the 1 gb stick, but think I'll get a 512 mb one now and wait to see what happens to the price of the 1 gb stick, and also what develops with cf drivers (if there trully is a beta coming out in April).
eric2002
03-21-2003, 12:33 PM
i'd love to have a 512mb stick, however 128mb sticks are sooo cheap (with all the rebates) that I've snagged a few of them... so I probably won't be getting a 256, 512, or 1 gb stick for a long time!
n2ifp
03-21-2003, 12:46 PM
Just found out that the MS Pro stick will NOT support ATRAC3 music format!
http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8043
Unregistered
03-21-2003, 01:08 PM
what about the newer versions?
kkerruish
03-21-2003, 03:33 PM
n2ifp -
All of the Memory Stick Pros will support the ATRAC3, etc. with the proper driver enabled...
Sony's whole initiative to push their secure removable media is based on the new MS Pro concept.
We should all be wary about information we find posted in other links within Cliesource...and take them with a grain of salt.
Given that no drivers exist for the clie's, we don't know what it can or cannot do until they are released and running...
ken
Alistar
03-21-2003, 03:40 PM
No for our devices (NX/NZ/TG) the MS Pro will not support Atrac3 format even with a patch. Sony themselves said this look at the thread that n2ifp was talking about.
YTTAN
03-24-2003, 12:16 AM
What the hell is Sony trying to prove?
Magicgate shown on the surface of the MS Pro mean what?
Just for the fun of it?
Maybe Sony want to give people a idea that they are phase-out the atrac3 format forever? or leave the ex-owner of Magicgate to rot?
Maybe Sony IT staff key in wrongly or wrong info collected just like some other laptop seller(eg.dell latop sell for $100 only).
YTTAN
03-24-2003, 03:37 AM
I saw statement on booklet that NZ and TG IS SUPPORT ms pRO WITHOUT ANY patches. Only NX70 need it. is it true?
Originally posted by n2ifp
Just found out that the MS Pro stick will NOT support ATRAC3 music format!
http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8043
The statement from Sony(http://www.css.ap.sony.com/clie/announcement/AnnouncementDetail.asp?Id=NEWS000047) does not specifically say that MSPro will NOT support ATRAC3. In fact, it does say that it "includes copyright protection", which is ATRAC, or some revision of it.
I believe "MagicGate" here refers to the current/old white memory sticks, and not necessarily the MG-feature of the MSPro. This is consistent with what's noted in the Clie catalogues, which I brought up previously in this thread: http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5973
BRiC
KenSong
03-24-2003, 06:39 AM
Originally posted by n2ifp
I don't know if there is any left currently. If you buy it, just keep in mind that it needs the driver and don't get frustrated with it. Biggest issue it seems is with mp3's and movies without the driver.
Hi Larry,
I took the plunge and got the 512 MB to go with my NZ90. So far, I can confirm that it works perfectly with mp3s and Kinoma movies. I can also use the Movie Recorder and it played back perfect. You do have to soft reset once after installing mp3s in order for AudioPlayer to detect the songs.
I don't understand why others had issues. I did use HotSync to transfer those files instead of MSImport since I'm on Mac and that's the only way. Missing Sync will hopefully update their driver to support MSPro mounting.
It's faster with MSPro. And the amount of space I now have really puts a smile on my face :)
Cheers and good to see you so active here.
KenSong
03-24-2003, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by YTTAN
I saw statement on booklet that NZ and TG IS SUPPORT ms pRO WITHOUT ANY patches. Only NX70 need it. is it true?
I think so as I have had no issues on my NZ except for mounting MSPro on my Mac which is expected anyway. Evertything works like it would on my MS128 except it's faster.
n2ifp
03-24-2003, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by BRiC
The statement from Sony(http://www.css.ap.sony.com/clie/announcement/AnnouncementDetail.asp?Id=NEWS000047) does not specifically say that MSPro will NOT support ATRAC3. In fact, it does say that it "includes copyright protection", which is ATRAC, or some revision of it.
I believe "MagicGate" here refers to the current/old white memory sticks, and not necessarily the MG-feature of the MSPro. This is consistent with what's noted in the Clie catalogues, which I brought up previously in this thread: http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5973
BRiC
Excerpted from the link you have posted.
Details
Memory Stick PRO
Sony will release an upgrade program to enable the compatibility of CLIE handhelds preinstalled with Palm OS 5 with Memory Stick PRO.
Note: ATRAC3 format music files with MagicGate technology cannot be played or recorded even after applying the upgrade program.
So what does the above statement mean?
n2ifp
03-24-2003, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by KenSong
Hi Larry,
I took the plunge and got the 512 MB to go with my NZ90. So far, I can confirm that it works perfectly with mp3s and Kinoma movies. I can also use the Movie Recorder and it played back perfect. You do have to soft reset once after installing mp3s in order for AudioPlayer to detect the songs.
I don't understand why others had issues. I did use HotSync to transfer those files instead of MSImport since I'm on Mac and that's the only way. Missing Sync will hopefully update their driver to support MSPro mounting.
It's faster with MSPro. And the amount of space I now have really puts a smile on my face :)
Cheers and good to see you so active here.
Hello Ken!
Yes, it's been awhile and good to see you on here! I didn't know you had upgraded to the NZ90, but that's fine. I wish you the best of luck with it! There wasn't enough reason for me to ugrade from my NX, so I decided to hold off. I did pick up a new VAIO laptop instead. We all know more Clies are coming :)!
Those with MS Pro issues have been mostly NX users. Sony has hampered things by not releasing a Clie driver as of yet. Additionally, info put out by Sony, unfortunately, has been confusing at best.
Only 512mb? I thought for sure you were a gigabyte man :)!
I hope all is well with you and things are fine on this end.
Unregistered
03-24-2003, 09:57 PM
n2ifp - with all that complaining about Sony...
"We all know more Clies are coming ! "
r u going to give them more money ????!!!!!?????? ;)
oneeyesquare
03-24-2003, 10:01 PM
Of course , he will... "Clie" is a kind of electronic crack. We're all addicted, wether we admit it or not....
I hope I have some discipline when the next "new and improved" comes out. We'll see....
However MSPro-wise I'm DEFINITELY gonna wait a bit. What the heck is going on with Sony? Atrac-3 or not? MSImport or not? Good grief, release the patch already....
YTTAN
03-24-2003, 11:48 PM
You mean Sony had just release a patch?
YTTAN
03-25-2003, 12:41 AM
KenSong, i think your NZ90 got no issues which mentioned before by a few guys which maybe their set are from US or Europe.
I saw your link is Malaysia, Penang which mean your set is the same as mine too. Your set model is NZ90/G right? I think Sony set different standard from one region to another region just like the DVD codes.
Even Sony release some patches also stated that only asia's set can be downloaded and installed only.
To be concluded, Asia set may not have all the issue as other region have. Pls double confirm for all those with asia set before i purchase 512MB MS Pro. Thanks.
Unregistered
03-25-2003, 02:52 AM
Bought a 512 MS PRO from Sim Lim 2 days ago. I like it very much except that
-MS Import reported no memory stick
-Doc to go do not recognise the card
Wizard
sindu
03-25-2003, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by Unregistered
Bought a 512 MS PRO from Sim Lim 2 days ago. I like it very much except that
-MS Import reported no memory stick
-Doc to go do not recognise the card
Wizard
Care to share how much you pay for it and the store name ?
Originally posted by n2ifp
Excerpted from the link you have posted.
Details
Memory Stick PRO
Sony will release an upgrade program to enable the compatibility of CLIE handhelds preinstalled with Palm OS 5 with Memory Stick PRO.
Note: ATRAC3 format music files with MagicGate technology cannot be played or recorded even after applying the upgrade program.
So what does the above statement mean?
I believe it means what I said in my previous post... The above announcement does not specifically say "MS Pro stick will NOT support ATRAC3 music format!"
BRiC
I do not entirely understand, I am pleased as can be with MP3 - it seems to me that the reason for ATRAC3 is mainly to get people comfortable with a more secure music format... Maybe I am mistaken, I do not know much about these formats.
Bo
my friends website about Kyrgyzstan www.thewildasian.com
YTTAN
03-25-2003, 09:18 AM
Atrac3 format can store more song with customise personal frequency tune or tone for a particular song. It is not just more secure as i don't even care about it.
YTTAN
03-25-2003, 09:29 AM
latest lowest price from Singapore SLS as follow:
256MB MS Pro SGD$230 -- US$130
512MB MS Pro SGD$465 --US$378
1GB MS Pro -- Out of stock!
I think the 256 MB would go a long way for me... stuff it in and leave it there.. just pretend my Clie have a HDD.
Bo
www.thewildasia.com - My friends palmfriendly site about Kyrgyzstan
YTTAN
03-25-2003, 11:05 AM
i actually need the 1GB MS Pro but it is too expensive for me to add into clie NZ90 that it will add up to the same amount for a Pentium 4 2.0GB Laptop!!!
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