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SamuraiCatJB
02-01-2005, 02:47 PM
Putting in the Purchase requests today....

5x 147gig 10000rpm SCSI U320 in RAID 0
1x 74gig SATA 10000rpm boot. (or 2 in a RAID 0)
DVD-DL RW
6800 Ultra PCI-ex 16x
Dual 3.6 Intel XEON 64bit (32 with 64bit extension, same as AMD)
8gig of DDR-2 400 memory.

Any bets on my chances?

Cyker
02-01-2005, 03:15 PM
Dude, if you manage that I'll hate you!

Try and get that 5-screen wrap-around monitor while you're at it :D

SamuraiCatJB
02-01-2005, 05:10 PM
Dude, if you manage that I'll hate you!

Try and get that 5-screen wrap-around monitor while you're at it :D

I tried for that last generation, when they approved dual 24", but turned down my 4 screen wraparound. :)

I am running dual 3.0 Xeons with a 6800GT, so it's not like I am asking for more than huge harddrives and 64bit.

Cyker
02-01-2005, 05:40 PM
Can I have your old one...? :)

SamuraiCatJB
02-01-2005, 05:42 PM
Can I have your old one...? :)

nope, it will go out to one of the customers.... you are welcome to buy a contract with the company, then you could get my left over prototypes... but you'd pay more in the long run in chipping in on labor for the projects. :)

hucsman
02-01-2005, 11:55 PM
Didn't you work with the U.S. government (military)? Who's the "company"? Even worse, who are the customers???

SamuraiCatJB
02-02-2005, 12:02 AM
kinda, sorta, but not quite. Very few people like what I do, so no worries of front-line or important people seeing it. In fact I downloaded the "official" navy standard for 3D graphics, in use by 100 times the number of people as mine and all those names sounds.... scarey....

At it running 1/9th the terrain resolution of my software, it was running 1/10the the speed of my software, they applied mathematical shortcuts I do not, they reduce the color to 16bit, they handle 1/10 the data I do.... :) Those folks have the customers you are thinking about, my stuff is shoved in a back closet for the folks at the bottom of the barrel to see. :) but they see a lot from that view. :)

JackAxe
02-02-2005, 03:34 AM
Request real 64-bit procs, ask for Opterons. :p Avoid the cheeeeese. :)

<]=)

SamuraiCatJB
02-02-2005, 07:21 AM
Request real 64-bit procs, ask for Opterons. :p Avoid the cheeeeese. :)

<]=)

that means rewriting our code for 64bit operations.... which may be okay, but it is a time-consuming process. According to one of our vendors there is a unique property of 64bit OSes on the 32/64 hybrid chips. In that it supports running some 32 bit apps under 64bit OS by giving it its own 32bit window. One of the properties we want is that it supposedly gives the application access to its own 32bit memory segment, all 4 gig of it. One of the problems with Windows OS is that under 32bit windows, windows wants half of the memory for virtual address space and half for real memory. So you have a 2gig effective maximum for real memory addressable space. We would like to try and see if we can get 4gig of real memory addressable in our 32bit application. :) what I could do by doubling our memory addressable space... ahhhhhhhhhhhhh....

JackAxe
02-02-2005, 08:13 PM
Windows offers that weird 3Gig option now with 32bit. Not sure how they pulled that off. And most apps don't support it.

What you need... :D is a G5. The PowerPC started out as 64-bit arhitecture 15 years ago. It has just been setup in a way, that that software only looked at the low 32-bit registers. Only a software convention seperates it from 64-bit and 32-bit. So there's absolutely no penallty for running in 32-bit, nor no special window thingy is needed. And unlike some of these other wannabee 32/64bit hybrid procs, there's no 64-bit or 32-bit mode. So only one set of instructions and registers are required. Not a seperate set to microcode for each mode. And if the programmer favors the 64-bit mode on these cheese procs, it's usually at a penalty to the 32-bit mode. The PowerPC does not suffer from this.

And then there's Windows' 64-bit OS, which decided to take a non-industry standard path. They made up their own (LL)P64 model, since too may of their longs were hard coded 32-bit. So unlike Unix, OSX, Sun, SGI and Linux, which use the industrly standard LP64, MS is in CHEESE world.

You should just switch to PowerPC now and avoid future hicups. If you would've started out there in the first place, then moving into the 64-bit world would be like putting butter on your toast. Instead of milking the cow and churrning your own butter, before spreading it on non standard toast like these other 64-bit solutiosns. :)

<]=)

SamuraiCatJB
02-02-2005, 08:30 PM
yeah... but that still means PORTING! :p

JackAxe
02-02-2005, 09:19 PM
Just do it now. It's going to happen sooooon enough. :D The G5 is a very nice computer, even the insides are beautiful. :)

<]=)

SamuraiCatJB
02-02-2005, 09:24 PM
Just do it now. It's going to happen sooooon enough. :D The G5 is a very nice computer, even the insides are beautiful. :)

<]=)

that is why we are porting to OpenSceneGraph... we will do Windows and Linux first, because those are approved platforms. The govt. does not approve Macs for our use.

JackAxe
02-02-2005, 09:25 PM
Protest, and then say; "but the army bought a G5 super cluster." :(
:)

<]=)

SamuraiCatJB
02-02-2005, 09:28 PM
Protest, and then say; "but the army bought a G5 super cluster." :(
:)

<]=)

they are allowed to break the rules, I am not the army. I am am an army of one. ;)