UnLoGiC Movie Converter 1.0.0 is out!

[UnLoGiC]

I've spent all night coding and I got working version out!

I almost couldn't belive it when I converted my first video clips and saw that it actually worked for the first time :p

Anyway you can grab it from the downloads page http://www.unlogic.se/projects/umc
These is probably a few bugs left that I'll have to sort out over the next few days but it would be very kind if you could report all the bugs that you find under the bugs section in the forum.

If your just curios what heck this program does, have a look under the "what is it" section I updated it with screenshots from the latest version.

btw. this version doesnt check that you have the nessecary codec's installed (future versions will do that automaticly) so if you dont have the XviD codec installed you'll have to downloaded is too (there's a link on the download page for that too). This version uses the Fraunhofer MPEG-Layer 3 codec for the audio and i think this codec should be installed in windows by default. Else just google for it...

[lmame]

It is to be used on Palm with Mplayer?

[UnLoGiC]

It is to be used on Palm with Mplayer?
It's to be used with any handheld or video device that can play Xvid encoded video files...

[Forest_Noggle]

unlogic:

Looks like a great conversion tool.
For those of us with the old NX and using Full Movie Player, any advantage to using your tool?
For that matter, will Full Movie Player even play Xvid?
Thoughts or suggestions?

Jay

[UnLoGiC]

unlogic:

Looks like a great conversion tool.
For those of us with the old NX and using Full Movie Player, any advantage to using your tool?
For that matter, will Full Movie Player even play Xvid?
Thoughts or suggestions?

Jay

I've never touched a Clie device (you dont see much PDA's here in sweden), but I could easaly add another codec if you'd like that. Just tell me what kind of codec the Clie's players support.

But I think you should be able to watch XviD's on your Clies using MMPlayer!

[lmame]

I've never touched a Clie device (you dont see much PDA's here in sweden), but I could easaly add another codec if you'd like that. Just tell me what kind of codec the Clie's players support.

But I think you should be able to watch XviD's on your Clies using MMPlayer!
MMPlayer does not work really well on Clie...

[UnLoGiC]

Ok but what kind of codec's does the Clie players support?

[djboa]

if you can interface with ffmpeg, there is a new patch for it that enables it to produce mp4 in a format that the newest clies can understand with the VZ codecs ...

otherwise its quicktime embedded mp4 in a special way that I have only seen 3gp_producer support, .mqv files ...

...

the mp4 through ffmpeg is actually originally made for making files playable on PSP (playstation portable) ... so if you make a nice interface with this possibility you might have a lot more people appreciating it ...

if you need a beta tester, let me know ...

[Dags]

This looks great! Thanks for the hard work UnLoGiC ;)

[djboa]

otherwise its quicktime embedded mp4 in a special way that I have only seen 3gp_producer support, .mqv files ...

let me correct myself ... only seen "image converter" make the .mqv files ...

[UnLoGiC]

I've nailed down all the bugs submitted so far and removed thoose rather annoying debug messages.
This version should hopefully be a more smooth ride.

Go download --> http://unlogic.no-ip.biz/umc/

I'll have to do some research on the ffmpeg codec. I'll see how quickly I can get it implented into UMC.

Ps. Thanks to all of you who helped submitting bugs on the UMC forum.

[Esquilaxer]

I love this, much better than "MMJobmaker" which is also a script generator for encoding movies with that program.

I just hope my encoded movies will turn out good on my Zire72.

Btw, the Resize may not be userfriendly, as i tihnk it does scale to the source's ratio aspect: it's always 480x320.

Correct me if Im wrong.Andwyas, i had to manually change it to my pref.

[UnLoGiC]

I love this, much better than "MMJobmaker" which is also a script generator for encoding movies with that program.

I just hope my encoded movies will turn out good on my Zire72.

Btw, the Resize may not be userfriendly, as i tihnk it does scale to the source's ratio aspect: it's always 480x320.

Correct me if Im wrong.Andwyas, i had to manually change it to my pref.

Automatic resize is not implemeted in this version (remeber this only the second released version) but you can change the output size manually.

I'm gonna try to get the auto resize function implemented as soon as possible.

[jjesusfreak01]

I would like the ability to rotate the video for conversion. This is absolutely the only feature I care about right now. I can be patient, and at this point I can stand two conversions to get it on my Clie. The TH-55 can play fullscreen movies, and it takes less processing power if the movie is pre-rotated. I have yet to find a good program to do this without problems. Like I said before, I can be patient, I just wanted to let you know this is something I would like in a video converter.

[UnLoGiC]

I would like the ability to rotate the video for conversion. This is absolutely the only feature I care about right now. I can be patient, and at this point I can stand two conversions to get it on my Clie. The TH-55 can play fullscreen movies, and it takes less processing power if the movie is pre-rotated. I have yet to find a good program to do this without problems. Like I said before, I can be patient, I just wanted to let you know this is something I would like in a video converter.


You can rotate movies in any direction. Have a look at this screenshot:

http://unlogic.no-ip.biz/umc/pics/rotation.jpg

[Esquilaxer]

Automatic resize is not implemeted in this version (remeber this only the second released version) but you can change the output size manually.

I'm gonna try to get the auto resize function implemented as soon as possible.

I must say. This is going to be a huge turning point from users who want an inteface like Kinoma Producer and the quality/care for manual labour on VirutalDub.

I just converted some movie files of episodes of 24 and it has been excellent.

I heard you say that these profiles (T3) are almost the same as to Junglemike's guide. How true is this?

These profiles are fine, so far (tested non-action vfiles), but I'm wondering how I can make a profile made for Fast Action films. For example, I tried to watch "Dawn of the Dead" with the same settings as an episode of The Screen Savers (even higher fps, and rate), and Dawn of the Dead turned out horribly out of sync, restarts. I know the diff. between the 2 files, but im wondering how this can solved. The "The screen savers" of course went without a problem. Both of these files were made from "PQDVD 3.0" so this may actually be different with UMC. Not sure though.

p.s: sry if im going offtopic with ur thread. And using the zire 72 btw.

[UnLoGiC]

I must say. This is going to be a huge turning point from users who want an inteface like Kinoma Producer and the quality/care for manual labour on VirutalDub.

I just converted some movie files of episodes of 24 and it has been excellent.

I heard you say that these profiles (T3) are almost the same as to Junglemike's guide. These profiles are fine, so far (tested non-action vfiles), but I'm wondering how I can make a profile made for Fast Action films. For example, I tried watch "Dawn of the Dead" with the same settings as an episode of The Screen Savers (even higher fps, and rate), and Dawn of the Dead turned out horribly out of sync, restarts. I know the diff. between the 2 files, but im wondering how this can solved

p.s: sry if im going offtopic with ur thread. And using the zire 72 btw.


The reason why the movies is out of sync, is cause the Tunsten T3 profile has a much higher bitrate than your Zire 72 can handle during intense action scene's. But if you are willing I'd be more than glad to help making Z72 profile for you incase you dont want to try doing it yourself.

Your very welcome at the UMC forums if you need any help with the profiles. I even made a profile section there :)

[jjesusfreak01]

Yeah, this is a version 1.0.0. And you only spent fifteen minutes on it, uhuh. Are you one of those people who can think of a program in your head and write it with your eyes closed.

Edit: Oops, you said it took 15 minutes to write the website. Good job on the program anyway.

[UnLoGiC]

UMC version 1.0.2 is out!

I've implemeted the auto resize option now, wich will resize the input video and still maintain the aspect ratio within the size specified in the selected profile.

This should make encoding even simpler since you only have to set the profile resolution to the resolution of your PDA and UMC will do the rest.

I've also fixed a few small bugs that where found in 1.0.1.

As usual UMC can be downloaded here:
http://unlogic.no-ip.biz/umc/

Any feeback is very welcome!

Ps. big thanks to mantis for helping me beta test 1.0.2

[jjesusfreak01]

Thanks again UnLoGiC, I now have a good way of rotating videos before putting them through IC2, so I can do 320 x 480 at 25fps, no problem.

[UnLoGiC]

Thanks again UnLoGiC, I now have a good way of rotating videos before putting them through IC2, so I can do 320 x 480 at 25fps, no problem.

I'm abit curious, what is IC2?

[jjesusfreak01]

I'm abit curious, what is IC2?
IC = Image Converter. It is a program that resizes and converts videos to the MP4 format. It is designed for use with Clie Handhelds. IC 1.5 converts to mqv files, while IC 2 converts to MP4. MQV files max out at 320 by 240, but IC 2 MP4 files can be up to 320 by 480, filling every pixel of a Clies screen. MP4 files will play natively on the VZ-90, but you have to install the codecs onto the UX or TH pdas to run the files on them. The codecs are optimised/(written to run on) the dsp that is in the UX TH and VZ pdas.

I used your video program to rotate the videos, and then run them through IC to size them for my Clie. I believe it uses Quicktime codecs to do the conversion. Maybe in a later version of UnLoGiC converter, you could include the ability to output to mqv or MP4. Either way, its the first program I have found that lets me easily rotate the videos.

[UnLoGiC]

IC = Image Converter. It is a program that resizes and converts videos to the MP4 format. It is designed for use with Clie Handhelds. IC 1.5 converts to mqv files, while IC 2 converts to MP4. MQV files max out at 320 by 240, but IC 2 MP4 files can be up to 320 by 480, filling every pixel of a Clies screen. MP4 files will play natively on the VZ-90, but you have to install the codecs onto the UX or TH pdas to run the files on them. The codecs are optimised/(written to run on) the dsp that is in the UX TH and VZ pdas.

I used your video program to rotate the videos, and then run them through IC to size them for my Clie. I believe it uses Quicktime codecs to do the conversion. Maybe in a later version of UnLoGiC converter, you could include the ability to output to mqv or MP4. Either way, its the first program I have found that lets me easily rotate the videos.

would you mind sending me one of the IC2 encoded files? that way i could look at it and see excatly what coded it uses etc and add support for it in UMC :)

[jjesusfreak01]

Check your private messages.

[Forest_Noggle]

hey unlogic:

Any update on including the ability for the Sony Clie output?

I would love to try your converter in comparison to IC 1.5!

Thanks, Jay

[cy6ex]

Thank you Unlogic for answering my prayings! Virtualdub was not at all easy to use, especially for somebody who knows very little about about encoding movies.

MMPlayer, Virtualdub & Unlogic are simply the best for handheld movies. Bravo!! :)

[jjesusfreak01]

hey unlogic:

Any update on including the ability for the Sony Clie output?

I would love to try your converter in comparison to IC 1.5!

Thanks, Jay
He will most likely add mp4 and mqv support in the future. That will make this the most useful converter in existence.

[daver]

finally, a free converter! my brother's gonna love this when he see's that i can get Troy into a file less than 400 MB!

i just installed the converter, and started it up. however, when i try and open up the VOB files, i just hangs at the "Loading Details........" screen. the ellipses animation keeps on going, but it hung over night, from 11 pm to 7 am. i downloaded the extra AC3CM.zip file, and extracted all the files into the converter's directory. am i doing something wrong here? thanks

[UnLoGiC]

1.0.3

New features:
You can now pause the encoding between the passes.
You can now abort the encoding process.
You now see a UMC progressbar while encoding and VirtualDubMod starts minimized
VirtualDubMod now runs at a lower priority wich makes your computer less "sluggish" during the encoding process.
VirtualDubMod no longer shows the input and output video which speeds up the encoding a few percent.
New option that lets you manually input file resolution if UMC fails to detect it.

Bugs fixed:
Bug when you clicked new profile and then selected cancel
Bug when deleteing profiles
Bug where UMC would get stuck at "Loading file details..." screen
Bug that would crash umc if you pressed remove on the encoding tab with an empty list of files to be encoded.
Bug that occured when you pressed cancel when adding files multiple times to the list of files to be encoded.
No statfile found error corrected in all default profiles.


And I'm sure I've forgotten to write down some changes too...

It's availible for download at:http://unlogic.no-ip.biz/umc

Ps. Support for the .mp4 format didn't make into this version but I'll do my best to get it implemnted in 1.0.4 or 1.0.5.

/Robert "UnLoGiC" Olofsson

[jjesusfreak01]

1.0.3

New features:
You can now pause the encoding between the passes.
You can now abort the encoding process.
You now see a UMC progressbar while encoding and VirtualDubMod starts minimized
VirtualDubMod now runs at a lower priority wich makes your computer less "sluggish" during the encoding process.
VirtualDubMod no longer shows the input and output video which speeds up the encoding a few percent.
New option that lets you manually input file resolution if UMC fails to detect it.

Bugs fixed:
Bug when you clicked new profile and then selected cancel
Bug when deleteing profiles
Bug where UMC would get stuck at "Loading file details..." screen
Bug that would crash umc if you pressed remove on the encoding tab with an empty list of files to be encoded.
Bug that occured when you pressed cancel when adding files multiple times to the list of files to be encoded.
No statfile found error corrected in all default profiles.


And I'm sure I've forgotten to write down some changes too...

It's availible for download at:http://unlogic.no-ip.biz/umc

Ps. Support for the .mp4 format didn't make into this version but I'll do my best to get it implemnted in 1.0.4 or 1.0.5.

/Robert "UnLoGiC" Olofsson
Im always willing to wait. Kinoma can do this type of MP4, so theyll be able to use it too.

[daver]

i've asked already, but no one seems to have answered my question:

whenever i load any VOB files, or any video file for that matter, UMC seems to get stuck at the screen where it says it's loading 'file details' i let it sit over night, and found it at the same spot the next morning. any idea what's going wrong there?

[Dags]

daver - I suspect that the vob files are protected. Mine will eventually give me a message after a few mins saying that. If you use DVD decrypter first you can remove the protection and save the files to your hard disk.

BTW great little program! Can't wait for MP4 support so that I can use Kinoma again which is a far superior player.

[UnLoGiC]

I've just finished the Documentation section at UMC website, it should come in handy especially when encoding DVD's thanks to Mantis excellent guide.

[daver]

[QUOTE=Dags]daver - I suspect that the vob files are protected. Mine will eventually give me a message after a few mins saying that. If you use DVD decrypter first you can remove the protection and save the files to your hard disk.[QUOTE]

i don't really think so. i've been...uh.... ripping DVDs for quite sometime now, and i have multiple VOB decrypters on my computer. i suspect it's some other program interfering with UMC. i'll have to check that out, because if i open up a regular AVI or MPEG file, it only takes a few seconds before the "loading file details" screen disappears and i can encode the video.

[IonutR]

Very nice movie convertor , thnks for the share

[UnLoGiC]

i've asked already, but no one seems to have answered my question:

whenever i load any VOB files, or any video file for that matter, UMC seems to get stuck at the screen where it says it's loading 'file details' i let it sit over night, and found it at the same spot the next morning. any idea what's going wrong there?

There is a fix for this in 1.0.3 ....it pops a screen that asks you to manually input the resolution of the video file if it fails to autodetect it after 15 sec. Although the reason you are getting this is probably cause you are missing some codec. Have a look in the Documentation section on the UMC page, there is chapter there called "What do i need to install?".

[UnLoGiC]

Bad news....I may have promised too much too fast here, I just did some research and VirtualDub doesn't support the quicktime mp4 format due to legal reasons...that pretty much means no clie support :(

Unless we can dig up some tool very much like VirtualDubMod that UMC could use to encode these Quicktime MP4 files.

/UnLo

[djboa]

ffmpeg? unfortunately the fix for psp compatability that it has only works with 320x240 ... but if you can code you might be able to fix it :)

mingw/msys environment and you need to get and compile the faac project first, xvid not needed, uses built in mpeg4 encoder ...

or you could go grey license and take the version in 3gp_converter along with their other tools and have your program be a frontend for that (which would be great actually)

regards

[Dags]

Ack! Bad news that. Never mind, I hope we can work something out. Right now I'm using UMC as my main proggy to rip to avi from vob then using Kinoman Producer to convert to mp4 or mov. At least it's down to a 2 step process right now and the quality and size of files are excellent.

[jjesusfreak01]

ffmpeg? unfortunately the fix for psp compatability that it has only works with 320x240 ... but if you can code you might be able to fix it :)

mingw/msys environment and you need to get and compile the faac project first, xvid not needed, uses built in mpeg4 encoder ...

or you could go grey license and take the version in 3gp_converter along with their other tools and have your program be a frontend for that (which would be great actually)

regards
Thats exactly what I have been thinking. ffmpeg should work fine with MP4 files.

[peterb123]

Bad news....I may have promised too much too fast here, I just did some research and VirtualDub doesn't support the quicktime mp4 format due to legal reasons...that pretty much means no clie support :(

Unless we can dig up some tool very much like VirtualDubMod that UMC could use to encode these Quicktime MP4 files.

/UnLo


:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[sclute]

If we use MMPlayer will UnLoGIC work for us?

[Dags]

Oh YES indeedy it will :D ;) :D :)

[daver]

Bad news....I may have promised too much too fast here, I just did some research and VirtualDub doesn't support the quicktime mp4 format due to legal reasons...that pretty much means no clie support

Unless we can dig up some tool very much like VirtualDubMod that UMC could use to encode these Quicktime MP4 files.

/UnLo

well, if that's the case, and if you're willing to do a little bit more work, you could just put the newly converted AVI/MPEG file through the Sony IC. That is if you don't have MMPlayer, or don't mind the extra 5-20 minute wait.

[sclute]

what profiles are people using?

[jjesusfreak01]

well, if that's the case, and if you're willing to do a little bit more work, you could just put the newly converted AVI/MPEG file through the Sony IC. That is if you don't have MMPlayer, or don't mind the extra 5-20 minute wait.
I would simply just use IC2, but I want to rotate the video so that I can up the framerate, so that includes two steps, so unless I want to do a two pass encoding, I lose alot of quality, and it takes a whole lot longer. If IC2 could simply rotate the video, I would be happy. I cant use those tools that interrupt the video stream to rotate it, because they dont work on my system, so rotation with another program is my only choice. Thats why I am really hoping UnLoGiC can add MP4 support into his converter.

[JAmerican]

I'm currently trying to convert SharkTale. Hopefully it works. I kept having a VBR problem with it in VirtualDubMod but hopefully, your program will work.

JAmerican

[LupeValenz]

ok...to put this bluntly.....how the heck do I convert? What files do I have to choose? All of them??? I miss the simple click on dvd and convert :D. I want to try this one and see if I can record my House of flying daggers since fairuse hangs when I try that :(