anyone know a good program for window xp .. to control over other computers as remote

[neogin]

any remote software available .. that u guys recommend ???

an example .. i want to teach my friends over msn messenger .. it's hard for them to understand .. i want to just send in a file and let them install .. then i can just teach them there .. just imagine .. when you talk with a guy who doesn't know how to use computer ..

[SamuraiCatJB]

VNC, either Open or Tight. :)

[neogin]

vnc .. is ?

virtual network client ? lol

u used to do it ? a link for me plz ..

[SamuraiCatJB]

Virtual Network Computing

Tight VNC http://www.tightvnc.com/
RealVNC http://www.realvnc.com/ (used to be openVNC)
UltraVNC http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/links.html


you can even find a Palm client and remote your friends computer from your handheld. ;)

[TheBigBradWolf]

all of the old software that technically falls into the trojen catagory would probably work...my personal favorite was always Y3K RAT.

[neogin]

thx a lot .. i'm trying them out soon ..

** palmvnc can control over window platform ?? how the graphic ? slow or not ? which ones do u recommend me samcat ?? (prefer free copy :D)

i'm looking at tightvnc now .. hmm

and i can just share my file over FTP .. get rid of my last problem about my shared folder .. kinda lazy to format ...

[SamuraiCatJB]

I used TightVNC. But realVNC free works fine too. Only issue is that it is an unencrypted stream unless you pay.

[Thelonious]

** palmvnc can control over window platform ?? how the graphic ? slow or not ?

It works, but don't count on doing a lot with this. It needs a lot of scrolling on the Palm to navigate on the desktop of the PC.

I generally commend VNC for remote controlling a PC, because it's free, it exists for all platforms, there are variations for special needs (see links above) and it is very reliable.

[TheBigBradWolf]

Right now I use palmVNC there's a link off www.palmopensource.com...then...it also comes with VNC viewer for the PC but it's a PIA to install...especially with certain firewalls...

[Homie S]

VNC was created by a subsidary of AT&T.

*The more you know...*

Windows firewall in SP2 will keep me from using netsend right? What's the way to get around this?

[Cyker]

If you're all using XP, you could also use the Remote Desktop feature.

VNC performs a lot better on Unix/Linux than it does on Windows because the graphics system is more open, so if you have problems the Remote Desktop thing is worth a shot.

I normally tell people to disable it as it's a massive security hazard, but then so is VNC ;)
Only load/enable them while you need them and make sure everyone disables it after if you want to stay safe!

[SamuraiCatJB]

remote desktop is good, but it does not allow desktop sharing, so that you can watch what the person does, and they watch what you do. Remote desktop locks out the local use when sharing to remote. Unless I am missing a setting somewhere... :) which is possible.

[neogin]

remote desktop is good, but it does not allow desktop sharing, so that you can watch what the person does, and they watch what you do. Remote desktop locks out the local use when sharing to remote. Unless I am missing a setting somewhere... :) which is possible.

yea .. agree .. that's why, i want more powerful app :D

seem like .. for free app .. i think tightvnc is the best there ..

[rclodfelter]

I user Remote Administrator at http://www.famatech.com.

There is also Terminal Services

[neogin]

tightvnc is just a pure remote desktop ohhh ..
i thought i could do ftp via tightvnc .. - -'' (trying hard to do it now)
also, i couldn't hear any sounds .. that's sad that tightvnc can't do sound support ..
but it works great over lan ..

** i can't connect over the internet ... but i can over my home network ..
what's wrong .... i think i will test normal computer first .. i got no chance to set my cousin's router yet .. it might be the port forwarding or firewall setting ..

read the below msg .. :(
Although TightVNC encrypts passwords sent over the net, the rest of the traffic is sent as is, unencrypted (for password encryption, VNC uses a DES-encrypted challenge-response scheme, where the password is limited by 8 characters, and the effective DES key length is 56 bits). So using TightVNC over the Internet can be a security risk. To solve this problem, we plan to work on built-in encryption in future versions of TightVNC.

[SamuraiCatJB]

unfortunately RealVNC charges for their encrypted version. Do you plan to use this often or just once in a while to help someone?

[neogin]

once in a while .. to help someone .. kinda no choice .. and many problems setting up the ip over internet also .. more like .. i have to setup their computer to make sure that it works first .. arrr

[SamuraiCatJB]

once in a while .. to help someone .. kinda no choice .. and many problems setting up the ip over internet also .. more like .. i have to setup their computer to make sure that it works first .. arrr

well, outside of actually buying a remote control program, which might cost you about $30 to $90 depending on features. You can run SSH and tunnel the VNC through the SSH. This would also give you Secure FTP if you want. It will take some planning, more than just install and go since both are tunnel protocols.

Or you can run VPN which will be a little easier. VPN is also an encrypted tunnel protocol.

http://openvpn.net/

you would still need to run VNC, but VPN or SSH would handle your encryption.

[neogin]

so, OpenVPN is for encryption ?

i'm still looking for a good VNC now .. checking for a good easy one ..

does window remote desktop do the following FTP, encryption, and tunnel network ?

[SamuraiCatJB]

well, OpenVPN is for a little more than just encryption... it is a network tunnel. Meaning that your machine will be connected as if you had a virtual network line connected between the two. You will see a virtual IP address, what ever you set up (say 10.0.0.1) any activity between your computer (10.0.0.2) and your remote client will be sent through a single port and encrypted. You can use any software on VPN, you could poll email through standard Pop3 and SMTP ports the VPN software will take any activity to the virtual network address, encrypt it and send it through a single port.

VPN is often easier with any hardware firewalls since they are already set up to allow VPN, or make it easy to turn on.

SSH, similarly is encrypted shell, allowing you to run software across the link, it is a little more difficult to set up, but just as effective. I have used VPN, my friend at work used SSH, both of us connected to a remote VNC client using said tunnel. Our discussion of the subject didn't achieve much, I still used VPN and he used SSH until security demanded their removeal. :)

Windows remote desktop allows direct disk sharing. so you don't need ftp, you simply drop things across the remote drive list. Remote desktop does encrypt the traffic, as with any microsoft product, you are not supposed to ask about the strength or method. ;)