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bakerybob
12-14-2004, 04:06 AM
The power button of my NX80V broke off when I tried to turn it back on from hold mode (yeah, it's had a lot of use...). So now it's stuck in Hold mode with no way to turn it on! (Pressing any of the buttons just makes the power LED flash, and of course resetting does nothing.) Where the power button used to be is now a hole into the guts of the machine...

I'm guessing my only solution is to pay the money and get it fixed, but does anyone happen to know a way to override the Hold function to turn it on, and make sure that I get all my data backed up before I send it off?

Or, if I could turn it back on and then remap the voice rec button as the power button, I wouldn't even really need to get it fixed...

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Evan

intellidryad
12-14-2004, 07:42 AM
This is a design flaw
Mine broke withen 2 months after I bought it.
And the price I paied to fix it is about 33USD (1000NT actually) and a month's wait for it to take a trip to Japan and back.
There's a lot of posts on this topic, do a search next time.
But it's still kind of good to have more disscussions to show how bad sony did on that tiny plastic.
These are some of what I found:
http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50920&highlight=Power+button
http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67818&page=1&pp=15&highlight=Power+button
http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64925&highlight=Power+button

starbuckk
12-14-2004, 11:45 AM
This comes up every once in a while here, so this time I decided to do something about it in advance. Hopefully my memory will allow me to keep up with this.

1. I don't use To-Do's, so I assigned the To-Do button to Zlauncher using Preferences. This will have the same basic effect as the power button for turning on the unit.
2. I put a Power Off soft button on ZLauncher's lower tool bar.
3. I notice that closing the clam shell in protected position turns off the screen and audio player keeps playing. Basically the same effect as the hold button, but no worries about the button breaking while in "Hold" mode. Not sure if it will still preserve battery life, but given that the screen is the major power consumer, it has got to help.

Power switch then is only needed for (hopefully rare) hard resets. Doing this should extend the life of the apparently faulty power switch.

Maybe a piece of scotch tape over the power switch can serve to remind me not to use it. Haven't decided on that one yet.

cliemia
12-14-2004, 04:44 PM
This comes up every once in a while here, so this time I decided to do something about it in advance. Hopefully my memory will allow me to keep up with this.

1. I don't use To-Do's, so I assigned the To-Do button to Zlauncher using Preferences. This will have the same basic effect as the power button for turning on the unit.
2. I put a Power Off soft button on ZLauncher's lower tool bar.
3. I notice that closing the clam shell in protected position turns off the screen and audio player keeps playing. Basically the same effect as the hold button, but no worries about the button breaking while in "Hold" mode. Not sure if it will still preserve battery life, but given that the screen is the major power consumer, it has got to help.

Power switch then is only needed for (hopefully rare) hard resets. Doing this should extend the life of the apparently faulty power switch.

Maybe a piece of scotch tape over the power switch can serve to remind me not to use it. Haven't decided on that one yet.

Doesn't your Clie power-off after 3 minutes if you are listening to music with the clamshell closed?

I use DefaultCapture to map the camera button to "power on," and Okey to "power off" when I close the clamshell. I do still use the hold feature of the power switch. Is there a way to get around doing even that much with it?

bakerybob
12-14-2004, 07:16 PM
Thanks for the replies. Looking at other threads, it seems as if some people have been able to move the switch themselves without opening the Clie - I'm going to try to shine a light in there today and see if I can't move it with tweezers or somesuch. If anyone has any tips they would be greatly appreciated...

Thanks again!

starbuckk
12-15-2004, 12:03 AM
Doesn't your Clie power-off after 3 minutes if you are listening to music with the clamshell closed?

I use DefaultCapture to map the camera button to "power on," and Okey to "power off" when I close the clamshell. I do still use the hold feature of the power switch. Is there a way to get around doing even that much with it?

No, evidently Audio Player overrides auto shut down because it keeps on playing with the clam shell closed and screen off.

So, if you are only using the hold button when listening to music, and you have zLauncher, or some other launcher that has a soft shut down button available, you can try turning off the "Off when closed" feature and set up the software Power off button. Then you should not need Hold.

The only problem I'm encountering so far is that using the To-Do button forces zLauncher to go to the next tab, even when I have Start on first tab turned on. So I might look in to DefaultCapture for turning on the unit, and stick with the software button for turning it off.

The software power off button has the added advantage of forcing me to go back to zLauncher and not leaving the unit in an open iSilo document or something similar, which messes up my nightly back ups!

And I did go with scotch tape over the power switch. Old habits are hard to break, but the power switch apparently isn't :).

TopCrusader
12-15-2004, 01:50 AM
What is "DefaultCapture" and how does it work?

cliemia
12-15-2004, 10:22 AM
What is "DefaultCapture" and how does it work?

DefaultCapture is a free, small application that lets you re-map the camera "capture" button to another function--either power toggle, any app, any hard key. I don't have the download site, but do a search here, and you should be able to find it. It's very handy!

Starbuckk--thanks for the info. I'll have to get Zlauncher.

cliemia
12-15-2004, 10:30 AM
Download DefaultCapture Here:

http://www.palmzone.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=79&ttitle=DefaultCapture

starbuckk
12-15-2004, 11:29 AM
Ok I looked at default capture. I did not realize it would allow the button to share functions based on a short or a long push. So now trying it with short push for power and long push for capture. That might work out well.

cliemia
12-15-2004, 11:34 AM
Ok I looked at default capture. I did not realize it would allow the button to share functions based on a short or a long push. So now trying it with short push for power and long push for capture. That might work out well.

Yes, that's the way to go. I tried doing a long push for power and a short push for capture, but for some reason, this resulted in taking a picture every time I powered on. With the way the Clie's camera works anyway, you have to hold it still for a long time to get a quality picture, so you don't lose much functionality using a long push for capture.

knank
12-15-2004, 12:20 PM
I'm wondering than nobody take a look to Sharkbutton, a great program that is in beta phase but works perfect, can assing as for example Power ON/off to any button that has the avaiability to wake up the system, like voice recorder button, capture button, date book button and others, and it's free take a look to

http://www.ludustech.com/modules.php?name=SharkBtn

Developed by the great Sharkboy (in my oppinion :P ) you can ask everything in this thread on 1src.com

http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75274


See you, hope this helps. CIAO.

cliemia
12-15-2004, 12:27 PM
I recently loaded Sharkbutton, but I have not yet tried it--the interface is not intuitive to me, and I haven't had a chance to look at the instructions yet. Thanks for posting the thread--I'll have to check it out!

jjesusfreak01
12-15-2004, 01:46 PM
Figured id post since this came up.

Has anyone ever found a way to hold the clie from software? I of course mean like a semi-hold, that you could undo by holding down a remapped power button. No offense to ludus tech, but sharkbutton doesnt do much that i cant do for free. The hold button remap is the only thing im interested in. The best thing would be if I could hold the capture button on my TH-55 (which is remapped as a power button already), to put the device into the hold state. That would be really nice.

pilotmedic
12-15-2004, 05:13 PM
how do I access the defaultcapture prg after I dl it?

cliemia
12-15-2004, 08:48 PM
From the home screen go to Prefs (in the default launcher group, by default), and click on the drop down menu (top right). Default capture should now be listed as a choice, and away you go!

cliemia
12-15-2004, 08:49 PM
Sorry, that would be the "Settings" launcher group. :)

TopCrusader
12-15-2004, 08:50 PM
Click on your "Prefs" and you will see a submenu of DefaultCapture.

starbuckk
12-22-2004, 07:00 PM
Well I think I've got a bit of a mess here. I installed DefaultCapture. Then after some talk I give SharkBtn a try. Also, btw, I have a program called Capitalizer, which until today I did not realize that it to does some "tinkering" with the various buttons. Now I can't seem to get the Capture button to go back to its original condition despite having disabled all of the above programs. Do one of these leave a hack setting ihn place somewhere as a leftover? I will probably try removing them from the Clie while I have some "quiet time" on the plane I'm about to board.

But in case it doesn't work, maybe someone out there knows the answer? I think in the end, SharkBtn might end up being my program of choice. It seems to give more capabilities. But first I need to get the thing back to normal.

cliemia
12-23-2004, 10:02 PM
I've used Shark Button and DefaultCapture, and not had any trouble disabling those, so my vote is for a problem with Capitalizer (I've never had experience with it, though). It would probably be wise to uninstall them all (preferably using Uninstall Manager), and starting over. From what I'v seen of Shark Button, it seems to be a very useful app. But I don't think it gives you the "long" and "short" button push options of DefaultCapture.

starbuckk
12-24-2004, 01:20 AM
No it doesn't have that option. So if you use Sharkbtn to identify which button for power on/off, its probably better to use something other than capture. The ToDo button does the trick for me.
I haven't experimented with Capitalizer much to see what all it does besides its primary feature, which is making upper case characters when a graffiti stroke goes over the center of the graffiti pad.