1SRC Podcast One

[Reggie]

PalmOS based Linux, effect on Cobalt, similarities with the Mac OS, PalmOS UI on cellphones. [details (http://www.1src.com/?m=show&id=707)]

[SirKillalot]

hmm, pretty cool but this beeping in the background makes me crazy O_o

[Jeff Kirvin]

Sorry about that. Was getting IM'd while recording. I'll see if I can switch from Stereo Mix input to Microphone after the music cue. Or I could just drop the music...

[Meisterz]

Yes, a good listen. Good work 1src and Jeff. Planning on having any guests on future shows?

[OcellNuri]

This is my first Podcast... I haven't really been compelled to listen to one, until now.

[Reggie]

Since the format of podcasts are just plain MP3, I'm sure a lot of you know already how to put them in your device's memory card. We will try to put up instructions on how to upload the MP3 file to your handheld. It will be nice to collect hem and re-listen to them when probably taking the subway/train/bus/etc.

Another set of good podcasts are at Engadget's: http://podcasts.engadget.com :D

[strider_mt2k]

This is excellent!
I enjoy the show, and being able to "take it with" is great!

Great idea folks! :D

[volcanopele]

great idea. I remember downloading similar news casts from cnet.com and wondering where I could download MP3 radio shows or news casts. Now that day has come (almost a year and a half later :D

[Joel]

I only subscribe to two podcasts: Engadget and 1src ;)

I use iTunes, iPodderX, and the iPod. In fact, I listened to the 1src Podcast on my way to work. :)

[lekeno]

What a great idea !

I have one suggestion that could ease the retrieval of the cast directly from a wireless palm.

When you use Hand-Rss, you can use the "open link" command to start up netfront (or other browsers) and download the mp3 to your external memory card.
I found this technique while reading engadget (see there for details http://podcasts.engadget.com/entry/8895804146957771/#c38576 )

In the case of 1SRC's podcast RSS the link property of the item (in the rss file) is set to something like "http://1src.com/?m=show&id=707". In order to be able to use hand-rss effectively, this property should be set to the location of the mp3 : "http://www.1src.com/podcasts/1srcPodcastOne.mp3".

Could 1SRC make that change ?

Thanks

[Reggie]

lekeno,

On the main article, at the last paragraph, there is actually a special RSS feed for the 1SRC podcasts. I think you can use that. Here's the direct link. Tell us if it works on Hand-RSS:

http://www.1src.com/podcasts/rss.xml

[Possum]

Enjoyed the first Podcast too, but I have to disagree with part of the broadcast regarding the Mac. While I do agree that familiarity does play a part in the decision the Mac's failure to take a stronger hold is more complicated than that. I am currently a Mac user and believe it is a superior OS but...

Apple has a way of coming out with terribly innovative technology ideas and then just dropping them. Just look at the Newton. The first time I saw anything resembling multimedia was on the Mac, yet the Mac's DVD software does not mix web pages with DVD display like Windows PCs currently do. It was only very recently that "smart" auto bookmarking was added.

Apple does not make the really cheap junk systems that you see in the Windows market. While I would never buy one of these myself, I can see how inexperienced users would find these choices to be better because they don't realize the junk is going to fall apart terribly soon. Once they do begin to learn what to look for, they have become familiar with Windows. There goes that familiarity card again, but with a whole new twist.

I did manage to convince a friend into "switching" but they have become frustrated with the multiple expensive OS upgrades without even a price break for those who bought the earlier versions. The original version of OSX may have been reasonably stable, but it was also stripped of many features you would expect to see in a complete OS. The current version is wonderful, but there's some people out there just a little frustrated with having to pay $100 for bug fixes and missing components or people who just didn't upgrade who are really frustrated with an unfinished OS.

While Apple is great at making compelling TV advertisements, their representation right out in the public, where people can see the computers has been a horrendous nightmare. There's Comp. USA with maybe one Apple representative at the most and other store employees leading consumers away from those "other" computers, and then there's also the limited number of locations you can actually go to buy one. In Fresno, I have the choice of going to Comp USA, or buying on-line, and that's about it. Another potential "switcher" I had convinced into buying a Mac, was so disappointed with the blatant lies he was told at Comp. USA he changed his mind, not based on the Mac, itself, but who he would have to deal with if he bought one.

Some people buy a computer mostly based on playing games. Games almost always seem to come out on Windows PCs earlier, if they even do make it to the Mac.

Some people just aren't aware that yes, you CAN run office on the Mac. I just had someone feed me the same piece of miss-information regarding opening Word and Excel files on the Palm.

It's just so much more complicated than putting computers in schools.

[BClie2k]

Good Job Jeff,
I liked your tone of voice, the way your monolog was structured and all the supporting arguments you gave. However, I would like to listen a more fluent dialog without the ahhhh, or uhhhh..! and breathing noises. On video probably it woudn't be to bad, but on voice-only it has to come out much cleaner.

Keep up the good work,

Al

[strider_mt2k]

I noticed that as well, but wrote it off to being the first Podcast.

I'm a singer, and do voice-over stuff too, so I understand the mic protocols thing, but I liked how informal it felt.

Mic slickness will develop I'm sure.



One question though:

I dled the 'cast onto my TH55 and Audio Player told me it was corrupt.
Do I need a different player to play it?

[Reggie]

strider,

Hmm. I tried streaming it using MMPlayer (on a Treo 600) and it played fine. I'll try to do some testing with the TH55 when I get home.

Thanks for reporting this.

[Joel]

The podcast works great in Pocket Tunes Deluxe.

[Jeff Kirvin]

Yes, a good listen. Good work 1src and Jeff. Planning on having any guests on future shows?
Actually, I'm not adverse to it. I've found that TeamSpeak works really well for that on Windows. That's how Josh and I do our podcasts on Maximum Geek...

http://www.solomedia.org/podcast/

[strider_mt2k]

I'm goint o try DLing and playng it again.

The app in question is Audio Player.
The error I get is this:

! This track is unavailable
for one of the following
reasons:
The card is write-
protected or does not
support copyright
control, or the track file
is corrupted.


I'm sure if I pay some money I'll get all kinds of things to happen! ;)

Seriously though, maybe I should look into mmplayer...

EDIT--tried again, no go same thing.

[strider_mt2k]

It plays using mmplayer.

[Gekko]

Jeff - Great show - even though I disagree with your Pollyanna views. You need to stop saying "UMMMMM" so much though!!!

GG

[strider_mt2k]

I'm not quite ready to invest in a 3rd party media player, so if anyone has any suggestions how I can make the 'cast play using the Sony Audio Player app, that would be great!

[Tam Hanna]

Right-Click it and save it to your Disk as an MP3 file. Then move this to the MemoryStick of your Clie and play it from there.
I am listening to the Podcast right now, and I am wondering about the music at startup......

[strider_mt2k]

Right-Click it and save it to your Disk as an MP3 file. Then move this to the MemoryStick of your Clie and play it from there.
I am listening to the Podcast right now, and I am wondering about the music at startup......

Okay, I'll try it that way.
Thanks for the suggestion!

[lekeno]

Hi,

lekeno,

On the main article, at the last paragraph, there is actually a special RSS feed for the 1SRC podcasts. I think you can use that. Here's the direct link. Tell us if it works on Hand-RSS:

http://www.1src.com/podcasts/rss.xml

This is the source of the xml file available at the url written above :

<rss version="2.0">
<channel>
<title>1SRC Podcast</title>
<link>http://www.1src.com</link>
<description>1SRC Palm-powered Podcast</description>
<generator>NePHP</generator>
<ttl>30</ttl>
<language>en-us</language>
<item>
<title>1SRC Podcast One</title>
<link>http://1src.com/?m=show&id=707</link>
<description>
PalmOS based Linux, effect on Cobalt, similarities with the Mac OS, PalmOS UI on cellphones.
</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:45:59 -0500</pubDate>
<enclosure url="http://www.1src.com/podcasts/1srcPodcastOne.mp3" length="5579289" type="audio/mpeg"/>
<guid>http://1src.com/?m=show&id=707</guid>
<source url="http://1src.com/?m=show&id=707">Podcasts</source>
<category domain="http://1src.com/?m=show&id=707">Podcasts</category>
</item>
</channel>
</rss>

I believe that Hand-Rss uses the <link>http://1src.com/?m=show&id=707</link> property of an item when the "open item" menu entry is tapped.

However this URL points to the article referring to the introduction of the first podcast ("We talk about the PalmSource announcement this morning, that they'd release a PalmOS based on Linux and...").

If this <link></link> property could be changed to <link>http://www.1src.com/podcasts/1srcPodcastOne.mp3</link> it would allow HandRss users to directly download the podcast onto the "memory stick / SD". This is how the XML file of engadget is made :

<item>
<title>Engadget.com: Podcast 20</title>
<link>
http://www.engadget.com/common/videos/pt/Engadget_Podcast20.mp3
</link>
<description>
Hey bad Banannas, and Mr. Grinches. On this show we discuss the Time Magazine article the forthcoming extinction of the radio star, Palm + Linux, More Apple rumors--cells and phones, iPod firmware hack, IBM to China, Xbox modders arrested, DVD police, City of Heros and Marvel's suckage, the Do not Call list, Broadsnatching, Feed Speaker and happy Chrismahanukwanzakah of course.
</description>
...


Thanks :-D

[Reggie]

lekeno,

You are right on the link that Engadget uses. However, only Engadget does this. The correct way is to use the <enclosure> tag. We have talked with the makers of Hand RSS and they said that they will be supporting the <enclosure> tag on the next release.

I'll see if I can create a feed similar to what you need, until the new Hand-RSS comes out.

[mr_gkyc]

I'm not quite ready to invest in a 3rd party media player, so if anyone has any suggestions how I can make the 'cast play using the Sony Audio Player app, that would be great!

The problem is that AudioPlayer does not support VBR which is what this Podcast MP3 is encoded as. I used Audacity+LAME to convert the file to a CBR 128K file and listened to it fine.

Which brings me to a second question. I know that Podcasting is tied somewhat to the iPod because of iTune's sync capability. But it seems to me that it isn't that hard to implement for PalmOS. This is especially since the CLIE uses a fixed location for its MP3 file (specifically, \Palm\Programs\MSAUDIO). An idea that crossed my mind is for a conduit which sync a specified folder on the PC with the CLIE's \Palm\Programs\MSAUDIO. With the conduit tied to HotSync, syncing content to a Palm would become as slick as the iPod. I'm not familiar with the other players out there such as MMPlayer, RealOne or PocketTunes but it seems that this scheme should work quite well for them too. Thoughts?

George

[Bionic Antboy]

I'd like to see the MP3 encoded as a CBR file as well. I prefer the built-in AudioPlayer (battery life difference is HUGE) and having to take the manual step of re-encoding a 1src MP3 file seems somewhat.... counter-intuitive... ;)

[Reggie]

Yes we'll fix that on hopefully on Jeff's next podcast. Thanks for the feedback.

[Reggie]

I resampled the podcast to 48 kbps at 44.1 kHz. For tose who can, please download and test it on the Clie AudioPlayer if it works now. As far as I remember, Sony says it should be at least 128 kbps, but from tests before I remember that mp3's should be sampled at 44.1 kHz for the AudioPlayer to play them.

Let me know. Thanks.

[Bionic Antboy]

For tose who can, please download and test it on the Clie AudioPlayer if it works now. As far as I remember, Sony says it should be at least 128 kbps, but from tests before I remember that mp3's should be sampled at 44.1 kHz for the AudioPlayer to play them.

Let me know. Thanks.

Works fine on my UX... thanks. I just figured it's easier to have the distributor make the file as compatible as possible, as opposed to the end user. :)