CF slot problem of VZ90

[mini]

Hi everyone. :)

I purchased VZ90 on the other day.
I began research about CF slot which VZ90 has.
It is the same work as I and Pelaca carried out before.

http://usagiya.g-com.ne.jp/mini/minidoco/minidoco30.jpg

First, I made patch driver for five kinds of communication cards.
As a result, only two kinds of communication cards worked well.
The communication card which works by VZ90 is following two.

NTT DoCoMo P-in Free 2PWL (Made by Panasonic) (http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/p_s/products/card/p-in_free/2pwl/index.html)
NTT DoCoMo P2402 (Made by Panasonic) (http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/p_s/products/foma/terminal/card/p2402/p2402_01.html)

The communication card which does not works by VZ90 is following three.

NTT DoCoMo P-in Free 1S (Made by Sharp) (http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/p_s/products/card/p-in_free/1s/index.html)
i-Card Type F1 (Made by SUNTAC) (http://www.sun-denshi.co.jp/scc/products/mobile/cs64cf/cs64cf.htm)
CFGPS2 (Made by IO-DATA) (http://www.iodata.jp/products/peripheral/2002/cfgps2/)

NOTE: Open and Close function of a communication card is no problem, but hang-up during communication.

I had the impression whose CF slot of VZ90 is very severe timing conditions.
I am researching for the method of adjusting timing. (ie. MCMEMx,MCATTx,MCIOx...)

Thanks.

[lmame]

Good work ;)

For the moment it seems it is Japanese network... Do you know if there are also CF cards which could handle GSM network, or UMTS network?

[mini]

Good work ;)

For the moment it seems it is Japanese network... Do you know if there are also CF cards which could handle GSM network, or UMTS network?

It is common to use CF communication card in Japan.
Also in my knowing, 20 or more kinds of products exist.
These are all original specifications and can use only the inside of Japan.
Were you surprised? :eek:

I know with the product outside Japan.
It is Audiovox RTM8000 only.
Audiovox RTM8000 (Tri Band GSM/GPRS) (http://www.audiovox.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=12410&langId=-1)

[lmame]

Thanks for the information ;)
I guess it will be hard to find something working with french network...

I guess the Audiovox RTM8000 (Tri Band GSM/GPRS) you showed me do not work with VZ90?

[mini]

Thanks for the information ;)
I guess it will be hard to find something working with french network...

I guess the Audiovox RTM8000 (Tri Band GSM/GPRS) you showed me do not work with VZ90?
According to my memory, Pelaca made a driver for Audiovox RTM8000.
I can convert this driver into VZ90 further.

However, I cannot do the guarantee which it works by VZ90.
As I have stated, there is a possibility of not stabilizing and working on the problem of timing.
I regard that it works well as 50% of possibility.

[lmame]

According to my memory, Pelaca made a driver for Audiovox RTM8000.
I can convert this driver into VZ90 further.

However, I cannot do the guarantee which it works by VZ90.
As I have stated, there is a possibility of not stabilizing and working on the problem of timing.
I regard that it works well as 50% of possibility.

I'll see if it's possible to get it in France, if you want to update it on VZ, I'll test it with pleasure ;)
I keep you in touch :)

[mini]

I'll see if it's possible to get it in France, if you want to update it on VZ, I'll test it with pleasure ;)
I keep you in touch :)
Imame..
Do you purchase RTM8000?
You are an adventurer.

Ok.
I will make patch driver for RTM8000 at this weekend.
Please try and report here.

[lmame]

Imame..
Do you purchase RTM8000?
You are an adventurer.

Ok.
I will make patch driver for RTM8000 at this weekend.
Please try and report here.

:D a litlle ;)

I found a shop who has it, I contacted the shop, I should have it in 3 to 4 days ;)

[mini]

lmame.

First, I analyzed the Pelaca's old driver.
And I found out the CIS information on RTM8000.

[RTM8000 CIS information]
VID 0279h
PID 950bh
Config Table Number 05h
IO address 02f8h

Based on this information, I made patch software for VZ90.
I cannot do a guarantee.
Does this patch work well or not?
I pray your fortune. :)

Mini's patch for RTM8000 (http://usagiya.g-com.ne.jp/mini/rtm8k/rtm8k.htm)

[lmame]

lmame.

First, I analyzed the Pelaca's old driver.
And I found out the CIS information on RTM8000.

[RTM8000 CIS information]
VID 0279h
PID 950bh
Config Table Number 05h
IO address 02f8h

Based on this information, I made patch software for VZ90.
I cannot do a guarantee.
Does this patch work well or not?
I pray your fortune. :)

Mini's patch for RTM8000 (http://usagiya.g-com.ne.jp/mini/rtm8k/rtm8k.htm)

I ordered it and it shipped, I should have it on monday, so I will test it :D

[mini]

I ordered it and it shipped, I should have it on monday, so I will test it :D
I pray also to God... Amen

[lmame]

Hi.

Ok I received the card and I tested it and I can't do anything :p
I installed successfully the driver and the card is reconised by the system.

Here are my differents tests so far:
1°) Normal configuration GPRS:
If I use a "standard" configuration:
Modem side:modem / RTM8000 / 56 kb / AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","websfr"
Network side: Login = password = G / phone = *99# (or *99***1#) / DNS checked (or not) / IP not checked / no script

I got no really error, it tryes two times to connect (launching: CF GPRS, the name of my connection for 15 or 20 seconds), I can see the CF card blinking red (wake up) and then blink green (ready to go), the VZ tryes to connect but it does not do anything...It just try to connect twice and then stops with a 0x1102 error.

2°) Script version GPRS:
If I try this:
Modem side: linked to = PC / RTM8000
Network side: login = password = G / DNS checked (or not)
Script:
Send: ATZ
Send RC
Send: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","websfr"
Send RC
Wait: 1
Send: *99***1#
Send RC
End
In this case I got the book icon, then the handshake icon and then an error: 0x1231 (PPP timeout).

If before the END I add:
Wait: CONNECT
Then I got another error: 0x1212 (timeout).


3°) Normal configuration Modem:
I try to establish a "modem" connection with an ISP:
Modem side:modem / RTM8000 / 56 kb / ATZ (or nothing)
Network side: Login = xxxx / password =yyyy / phone = 01234567890 (phone number of my Isp) / DNS checked (or not) / IP not checked / no script
I got the book and then the handshaking icon, but then an error: 0x1102...

4°) Phone:
I try to make a call (same as 3°) but I put a phone number of mine), it rings successfully, I hear "bip, bip, bip" as a fax request on the called line...


Anyway, it seems it does not work, I tryed quite a lot of things and I will try more tonight :)

[mini]

lmame.

You have succeeded in sounding the bell of a telephone with the 4th test.
I judge that RTM8000 is working well according to this fact. :)

You should act calmly.
Do you have NotePC or PocketPC?
First, please check that RTM8000 is connected with them and it can connect with the Internet.

[lmame]

lmame.

You have succeeded in sounding the bell of a telephone with the 4th test.
I judge that RTM8000 is working well according to this fact. :)

You should act calmly.
Do you have NotePC or PocketPC?
First, please check that RTM8000 is connected with them and it can connect with the Internet.
This message is written with my VAIO notebook (Windows XP) connected on Internet with the RTM8000...
So I can connect with RTM 8000 in GPRS with Windows XP (very simply, no problem)...

[mini]

OK.
I understood that RTM8000 is no problem.

Next, please check a network log.
The figure shown below is the case of the telephone company in Japan.(WCDMA)
It differs from your telephone company.(GPRS)

Please check the portion of the last of a log.
"ip address" and "Gateway" and "DNS", Are these addresses recorded?

1) If there is no record, you have failed in login.
2) If recorded, it will have failed in the ppp session.

In the case of 2), it is hopeless. :(

[lmame]

I have this in log:
Ip: 127.0.0.1
Gateway: 33.168.0.0
DNS (nothing)

[lmame]

One more thing, if I create a connection like this:
Connection:
PC (or network) / RTM8000

Network:
Login = password = G
RTM8000
No DNS / IP checked
The script of last post.

I got the icons Book / Shaking hands and then after some time Error 0X1231 (PPP timeout).


BUT if I put NO login / password, I have the icons book / shaking hands and right after an error message in japanese saying something like "Network error"...

[lmame]

Here is the screenshot:

[mini]

DNS (nothing)　WoW!!!
You have the necessity of inputting a DNS address.

And, I translate into English this Error Dialog.
A setup of a network is wrong.
Please check the contents of a setting.

[lmame]

I hard reseted the VZ and tried to do it again...

I made something doing:

Connection (named CF):
PC (or network)
RTM8000

Network:
Login = password = G
Connection used: CF
Details:
DNS (DNS of my ISP)
IP not checked
Script:
Send: ATE0V1
Wait for: OK
Send: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","websfr"
Wait for: OK
Send: ATDT*99#
Wait for: CONNECT

Here is the log result:
S:ATE0V1
R:ATE0V1\r\nOK
S:AT+CGDCONT=1 (and so on)
R:\r\n\r\nOK
S:ATDT*99#
S:\r\n\r\nCONNECT

Lcp->CfgReq
Lcp<-CfgReq
Lcp->CfgAck
Lcp<-CfgAck
LCP Up
PAP->CfgReq
PAP<-Ack
PAP Up
lPCP->CfgReq
lPCP->CfgReq
lPCP->CfgReq
lPCP->CfgReq
lPCP->CfgReq
lPCP->CfgReq
lPCP Timeout
LCP->TrmReq

But in the end or I have a PPP timeout error, or if I don't put login / password, I got a "network error"...

[lmame]

Ok, I give up...
Everything fails, even "simple" scripts to connect to a "modem" ISP, it seems the PPP dialog fails somehow...
Anyway, I needed a GPRS solution for my VAIO, now I got it ;)
Too bad it does not work on VZ, but I'm not too desapointed...

[mini]

ummm...
You have failed in the stage of IPCP.
As for it, the problem of timing may be related.
I regret that RTM8000 does not work.
I'm sorry.


Lcp->CfgReq
Lcp<-CfgReq
Lcp->CfgAck
Lcp<-CfgAck
LCP Up ---> Negotiation is no problem.
PAP->CfgReq
PAP<-Ack
PAP Up ---> Login and password is no problem.
lPCP->CfgReq
lPCP->CfgReq
lPCP->CfgReq
lPCP->CfgReq
lPCP->CfgReq
lPCP->CfgReq
lPCP Timeout ---> A ip-address and DNS is unacquirable.
LCP->TrmReq

NOTE: The outline of a ppp session
LCP -> Line Control Protocol. (Negotiation)
PAP -> Password Authentication Protocol. (Login / Password)
IPCP -> Internet Protocol Control Protocol. (Query ip-address and DNS)

[lmame]

No problem, I'll try to use it as a dialer ;)

[lmame]

I succeeded in making a voice call.
It's simple:
Connection: Modem / AT command: ATZ
Network: Nothing but phone number: 01234567;
the ";" is really immportant as it tells that the connection is in voice mode, if not, it is in DATA mode.

[mini]

Hi lmame.

It is my 2nd challenge.
You may be able to solve the last problem.
Please try.

Mini's patch for RTM8000 V1.10 (http://usagiya.g-com.ne.jp/mini/rtm8k/rtm8k.htm)

[lmame]

Hi lmame.

It is my 2nd challenge.
You may be able to solve the last problem.
Please try.

Mini's patch for RTM8000 V1.10 (http://usagiya.g-com.ne.jp/mini/rtm8k/rtm8k.htm)

Hi :)
I tried the same configurations and they all failed with all same errors...

But if I choose as SLIP or CSLIP instead of PPP, it succeeds but I can't load pages...

[mini]

Hi :)
I tried the same configurations and they all failed with all same errors...

But if I choose as SLIP or CSLIP instead of PPP, it succeeds but I can't load pages...
Thank you for trying.
It was unfortunate. :(
Please wait for my next challenge.

NOTE: There are no following functions in SLIP and CSLIP.
LCP
PAP
IPCP

It does not connect with the host of ISP.

[lmame]

Thank you for trying.
It was unfortunate. :(
Please wait for my next challenge.

NOTE: There are no following functions in SLIP and CSLIP.
LCP
PAP
IPCP

It does not connect with the host of ISP.

No problem, thanks for taking time on this ;)
I understand better for SLIP and CSLIP now... it always fail on lPCP, wether on GPRS or modem try.

[NY in Tokyo]

I had the impression whose CF slot of VZ90 is very severe timing conditions.


mini, you have always been a pioneer and I believe you can find the path finally. I wonder if the timing problem you are struggling against is related to the character of Handheld Engine, i.e. variable clock? If so, might CliePet's underclocker have some hints?

http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46318

Sorry if it is away from the point.

[ClieKun]

Just too many problem withthis device for the money...............ouch!
Mini I love you doggy. s cute

[clie_wannabe]

mini

sasuga desu ne...

i wish you all the best!!!

[ClieKun]

nadaiyo hehehehhehe

[mini]

mini, you have always been a pioneer and I believe you can find the path finally. I wonder if the timing problem you are struggling against is related to the character of Handheld Engine, i.e. variable clock? If so, might CliePet's underclocker have some hints?

http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46318

Sorry if it is away from the point.

Thanks for the information. :)
CliePet's underclocker is helpful.
I adjust the clock which debug of a CF communication card.


> i wish you all the best!!!
Thanks clie_wannabe san. :p
mata follow shite ne...

> Mini I love you doggy. s cute
ClieKun.
Thank you for praising my daughter.
Although she is a dog, she has eyebrows. :eek:

[ClieKun]

Thanks for the information. :)
CliePet's underclocker is helpful.
I adjust the clock which debug of a CF communication card.


> i wish you all the best!!!
Thanks clie_wannabe san. :p
mata follow shite ne...

> Mini I love you doggy. s cute
ClieKun.
Thank you for praising my daughter.
Although she is a dog, she has eyebrows. :eek:

Your doggy is cute!

[mini]

No problem, thanks for taking time on this ;)
I understand better for SLIP and CSLIP now... it always fail on lPCP, wether on GPRS or modem try.
Hi lmame.

Internal timing is changed this version.

1) By one interruption processing, data receives 238 bytes as the maximum.
2) Wait of a 30micro second is inserted for every byte.
3) Control by RS-CS is not performed.

Moreover, please try. :)

Mini's patch for RTM8000 V1.20 (http://usagiya.g-com.ne.jp/mini/rtm8k/rtm8k.htm)

[lmame]

Hi lmame.

Internal timing is changed this version.

1) By one interruption processing, data receives 238 bytes as the maximum.
2) Wait of a 30micro second is inserted for every byte.
3) Control by RS-CS is not performed.

Moreover, please try. :)

Mini's patch for RTM8000 V1.20 (http://usagiya.g-com.ne.jp/mini/rtm8k/rtm8k.htm)

Well, I tried and it still does not work...

I tried with a standard connection:
Modem:
RTM8000 as modem with AT command AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","websfr" 57600 kb/s (standard for SFR France)

Network:
Login = password = G
RTM8000
*99# (or *99***1#)
PPP enabled
DNS entered
No script

It fails as previously...
If I do not put login / password I got an error (problem of parameters in japanese)


If I do this:
Modem:
RTM8000 as Network (or PC)

Network:
Login = password = G
RTM8000
PPP enabled
DNS entered
Script to connect...

This time it fails on lPCP (timeout)...

Thanks for your efforts ;)

[clie_wannabe]

Hi everyone. :)

I purchased VZ90 on the other day.
I began research about CF slot which VZ90 has.
It is the same work as I and Pelaca carried out before.

http://usagiya.g-com.ne.jp/mini/minidoco/minidoco30.jpg

First, I made patch driver for five kinds of communication cards.
As a result, only two kinds of communication cards worked well.
The communication card which works by VZ90 is following two.

NTT DoCoMo P-in Free 2PWL (Made by Panasonic) (http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/p_s/products/card/p-in_free/2pwl/index.html)
NTT DoCoMo P2402 (Made by Panasonic) (http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/p_s/products/foma/terminal/card/p2402/p2402_01.html)

The communication card which does not works by VZ90 is following three.

NTT DoCoMo P-in Free 1S (Made by Sharp) (http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/p_s/products/card/p-in_free/1s/index.html)
i-Card Type F1 (Made by SUNTAC) (http://www.sun-denshi.co.jp/scc/products/mobile/cs64cf/cs64cf.htm)
CFGPS2 (Made by IO-DATA) (http://www.iodata.jp/products/peripheral/2002/cfgps2/)

NOTE: Open and Close function of a communication card is no problem, but hang-up during communication.

I had the impression whose CF slot of VZ90 is very severe timing conditions.
I am researching for the method of adjusting timing. (ie. MCMEMx,MCATTx,MCIOx...)

Thanks.

mini, do you think a patch to allow use of the B-Mobile PHS card could be easily made?

[mini]

mini, do you think a patch to allow use of the B-Mobile PHS card could be easily made?

Hi clie_wannabe.

Oh...Did you also buy VZ90?

I have already made the patch for B-Mobile PHS card.
However, the patch did not work in VZ90.

The time-out error happens to HONDA ELECTRON's CF-PHS card
by the beginning of the PPP-session though it is regrettable.

Look at Mini's BBS...
http://usagiya.g-com.ne.jp/mini/bbs/c-board.cgi?cmd=ntr;tree=287;id=
http://usagiya.g-com.ne.jp/mini/bbs/c-board.cgi?cmd=one;no=352;id=

Thanks
Mini

[clie_wannabe]

Hi clie_wannabe.

Oh...Did you also buy VZ90?

I have already made the patch for B-Mobile PHS card.
However, the patch did not work in VZ90.

The time-out error happens to HONDA ELECTRON's CF-PHS card
by the beginning of the PPP-session though it is regrettable.

Look at Mini's BBS...
http://usagiya.g-com.ne.jp/mini/bbs/c-board.cgi?cmd=ntr;tree=287;id=
http://usagiya.g-com.ne.jp/mini/bbs/c-board.cgi?cmd=one;no=352;id=

Thanks
Mini

henji, arigatoune!

iya, kattenai desu. motteiru VZ90 ha tanjobi-de, okusan-kara moratta mono desu. Lucky!!!

so... i see that it does not work with B-Mobile *zannen*

anyway, ill continue to use my remaining time with B-Mobile in my NX80V

again, thanks!!!

[Dags]

Nihongo ga shabereru hito no thread desu ne!! he he ... ;)

Hmmm . Anyway - just wanted to thank mini for all his efforts over the past few years. Keep it up man, we all appreciate it. It's because of people like yourself that the palm community is still alive and well. You should be proud.

Honto ni arigatou gozaimashita. Ima kara yoroshiku onegai shimasu ne.

[The Mad Dog]

stupid question but: Does WL100 and WL110 work with the VZ90 ??? :D :D :D

[clie_wannabe]

stupid question but: Does WL100 and WL110 work with the VZ90 ??? :D :D :D

never thought of trying it - but let me see (i have a WL100 card that is being used with my retired NX80V)...

would let you know of the results...

[clie_wannabe]

Nihongo ga shabereru hito no thread desu ne!! he he ... ;)

Hmmm . Anyway - just wanted to thank mini for all his efforts over the past few years. Keep it up man, we all appreciate it. It's because of people like yourself that the palm community is still alive and well. You should be proud.

Honto ni arigatou gozaimashita. Ima kara yoroshiku onegai shimasu ne.

sansei desu!!!

;)