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Lance

10-24-2004, 01:19 PM

The confidence levels have to do with the amount of testing for the software. Someone might load and use the application for five to ten minures, while others might have used the software for hours over the past week. Thus, a 'High' confidence level should be representative of someone who relies on this application a lot and knows the application has been extently tested. On the other hand, a 'Low' confidence level should be representative of someone who used the software for fifteen or twenty minutes and did not run into any problems just testing the basic functionality.

As iPalm alluded to, the confidence level should go up over time, and I will update the confidence levels as appropriate.

I hope this clarifies the confidence levels and my intentions.

Thank you,
Lance

matrix42

10-24-2004, 01:30 PM

Lance your going above and beyond as usual!!! Thanks!..

Another thing to note if possible is what the latest version of the software that is listed is released for example iSilo is currently @ 4.15 (perhaps a type above?)

ipalm

10-24-2004, 02:27 PM

No, not a typo. I haven't upgraded to iSilo 4.15 yet, so I can't speak for that version.

quantumred

10-24-2004, 02:59 PM

SmartList To Go 3.001

Causes error on start:
(Sys 0505) (0, 841)

Then fatal exception -> reset

This sucks. It's one of my 'must have' apps from my TE.

GadgetGuru

10-24-2004, 03:22 PM

It would be easier to sort/understand if the apps that 'need' to be updated are separated from the compatible ones...

Lance

10-24-2004, 03:30 PM

SmartList To Go 3.001

Causes error on start:
(Sys 0505) (0, 841)

Then fatal exception -> reset

This sucks. It's one of my 'must have' apps from my TE.I know they are working on this problem.

Thanks,
Lance

Alsicole

10-24-2004, 06:44 PM

Gekko

10-24-2004, 07:11 PM

These don't work on the T5:
1. Graffiti 1 Files
2. TealScript

No G1 for you!

You'll get G2 and LIKE IT!!!!!!

Lance

10-24-2004, 09:15 PM

Hi Lance

I have Kinoma 2.2.2 installed and working with the videos that were already on my card. I haven't tried installing anything new, but existing videos play fine (albeit, not in full screen).

A.I sent them several files where the audio and video would not sync up throughout the video. In fact, they would get worse as time progressed. Anyway, there were able to duplicate the problem, and they are working on resolving the issue.

Thanks,
Lance

poissonsouriant

10-24-2004, 10:46 PM

Add SkinT3! to the list. Refuses to change the DIA.

Alsicole

10-25-2004, 06:53 AM

I sent them several files where the audio and video would not sync up throughout the video. In fact, they would get worse as time progressed. Anyway, there were able to duplicate the problem, and they are working on resolving the issue.

Thanks,
Lance

I converted the files direct on to card, and didn't use Hotsync, maybe this made a difference.

kalel_rojin

10-25-2004, 08:59 AM

iSilo 3.35 (http://www.isilo.com/) Low
Backup Buddy VFS 2.15 (http://www.bluenomad.com/)

There are newer versions of these: Isilo v4.15, and BBVFS v3.03
You should be testing the newer versions for compatibility, not the older ones.
:-)

Lance

10-25-2004, 09:06 AM

There are newer versions of these: Isilo v4.15, and BBVFS v3.03
You should be testing the newer versions for compatibility, not the older ones.
:-)I agree, but since someone took the time to test it, I feel obliged to post it. When someone takes the time to test newer versions, I will update the list accordingly. In addition, some upgrades cost money, so there may be some users not willing to pay more money for features they do not need.

In the future, I will try to weed out the older software where updates to the latest version are free.

Thanks,
Lance

that70sGAdawg

10-25-2004, 10:43 AM

LightWav version 3.0 # 2004.082 Medium

Works great so far with Pocket Tunes 3.0.5 to provide Mp3 alarms.

GadgetGuru

10-25-2004, 12:21 PM

weed out the older software where updates to the latest version are free.

Lance

iSilo 3.xx to version 4.xx is not free but discounted as most software companies do. Version updates between 4.x versions are free so far...

quantumred

10-25-2004, 08:45 PM

MMPlayer 0.2.13 - The bookmark feature does not work for videos on an external card. It works on the internal card. This means you have no way to continue where you left off. I'm guessing this is caused by having two cards (one internal) in the T5 and the software doesn't handle it.

Gekko

10-25-2004, 08:56 PM

BBVFS v3.03 does not work on the T5. Same error as previous version.

PixelPusher

10-25-2004, 09:38 PM

Gekko? I thought you returned your T5? Do you still have it?

-Eric

Gekko

10-25-2004, 09:53 PM

uh....I did test some apps during the 48 hours I had it.

Inkspot

10-26-2004, 04:43 PM

MyBible 3.0 works fine and also Mapoplois.

ahloon

10-27-2004, 06:13 AM

MetrO 5.1.2 works well on T5.
HanDBase 3.0i2 works well.
HighWire Viewer 2.0.5 works well.
KidoMeter 4.2 works well.
Skyscape works well.
ICUmath works well.

Cheers.

Lance

10-27-2004, 07:14 AM

I apologize for not posting replies to point out the various updates that I have made over the past few days. I have added every title that has been suggested, in addition my own.

I would like to point out the DataViz has a patch for Beyond Contacts that provides compatibility with the T5. See list for link (i.e. first post of this thread).

Thanks,
Lance

Merang

10-27-2004, 11:32 AM

Thanks Lance for the hard work providing the info for all those people seriously considering the T5. Really appreciate it!

I would like to know if anyone knows if Handstory 2.3 (http://www.handstory.com/product/index.html) and Thought Manager (http://www.handshigh.com/html/thoughtmanager.html) works on the T5? I consider these two apps important in my daily use, really appreciate it if anyone can confirm about this. Thanks again.

William1

10-27-2004, 12:30 PM

In regards to the T3 files AppSlipRotate.PRC and StatusBarLib.PRC, I discovered that one program I installed on my T5 loaded these files, and after a hard reset (required by the T5 Updater), these files were then HotSynced back into the T5, causing the virtual graffiti area to vanish as well as the menu bar at the bottom of the screen. It took me a while to determine that one or both of those files were to blame. I'm not sure which app installed those two. I found these two in the hotsync backup folder, deleted them, and everything is back to normal. You might want to check your backup folder to see if these are lurking in it.

Regards....

William1

10-27-2004, 04:10 PM

I installed the Lexi-Comp reader v 2.2.041008 from Lexi-Comp, Inc., which is the reader for the Lexidrugs database at http://www.lexi.com.

After a medium amount of testing of the reader with the drug database, it appears to work well with the T5.

seascape

10-27-2004, 06:17 PM

I installed the Lexi-Comp reader v 2.2.041008 from Lexi-Comp...After a medium amount of testing of the reader with the drug database, it appears to work well with the T5.That's good news. I'll be testing PEPID and Sanford Guide soon. Use those 3 daily.

oz-nom

10-28-2004, 01:37 AM

I've tested the following, and they work. I hope there's no duplication...

Software name, version, (Confidence). Comments. Web page.

LifeBalance, 3.2.5, (Need) Will NOT work. Crashes requiring reset. Llamagraphics have a patch available by email (see below).
http://www.llamagraphics.com/LB/LifeBalanceTop.html

LifeBalance, 3.2.61d, (Medium). Version sent from Llamagraphics (they will email to any who request it), but is still a beta of their next release. No obvious bugs, but sometimes very slow because of the "debug processes" (something the good folk at Llamagrahics bring to your attention when they send it).
http://www.llamagraphics.com/support/email.html

Splash Shopper, 2.6a, (Low-Medium). It works fine, but not all screens display 320x480. Lists will, but edits won't.

Splash Money, 3.02, (Low-Medium). It works fine, but not all screens display 320x480. Lists will, but edits won't.

Splash ID, 3.12, (Medium). Seems to work fine except for opening password screen which will only operate 320x320.

Cheers,
Tim

seascape

10-28-2004, 06:22 AM

SplashID works fine 320x480 portrait and landscape
version 3.02
medium
http://www.splashdata.com/splashid/

seascape

10-28-2004, 06:56 AM

CelestNav 2.5
Uses Mathlib.prc
Low
http://www.mobilegeographics.com/celestnav/
Seems to work OK, 320x320.
The screen where user can change degrees and minutes for lat/long and altitudes using the onscreen keyboard in the dialogue window does not respond to keyboard taps without first re-highlighting the number with a double tap. On the T2 this works right away. The software has not been updated since 2002.

seascape

10-28-2004, 07:08 AM

TideTool 2.2
High
320x320
www.toolworks.com/bilofsky/tidetool/

Lance

10-28-2004, 09:04 AM

The list has been updated accordingly.

Thanks,
Lance

ahloon

10-28-2004, 12:37 PM

PubMed On Tab 1.4 works fine too.

William1

10-29-2004, 01:31 AM

I've been working with Jason at jkware.com, the developer of CardBackup, version 2.1b of CardBackup), but it generates errors backing up large databases to the external SD card. He said in an email to me, "It appears as though the T5 has some issues. I have another user that is having similiar issues. I'll be trying to reproduce them here and see what happens. My apologies for the problems. We'll see what we can do to get them fixed."
He is working on it, but the issue might be a T5 system bug.

GadgetGuru

10-29-2004, 02:28 AM

Wha's the status of Tealscript? Gekko, says it causes fatal errors on hotsync, anyone can confirm that. This app is a must for G1 lovers....

seascape

10-29-2004, 04:57 AM

1. A trusted correspondent tells me that the following apps are running fine on his T5:

Bonsai 3.3.1
Epocrates Pro
PEPID

2. And I just got this email from ZZTechs:

"ZLauncher v4.30 works with your T5."

That rounds out my "must have" softare.

I am going to switch to my T5 as my main handheld this morning and retire the T2, but keep it as backup for work until I am very comfortable with the T5.

Alsicole

10-29-2004, 05:19 AM

ZLauncher 4.3 does work on the T5, but what I can't get it to do is recognize my SD card, in order that I can move files on to it with ZLauncher.

When I tap and hold an application and select Move To Card, the only card it offers is the internal drive. If you actually move an app there, it causes a fatal error and I have to do a soft reset. The only way to get out of the problem is to delete the moved program with Uninstall Manager.

I'd be interested to see if anyone else is getting this. The Card Info app on the T5 recognises that there are two different cards, and if I exit from ZLauncher I can access and see the SD card perfectly well.

Lance

10-29-2004, 05:45 AM

"ZLauncher v4.30 works with your T5."There may have been a conflict with another application, but I would get an error every time I opened the file manager. I will remove 5.00 Beta 4 and try it, again.

Thanks,
Lance

seascape

10-29-2004, 06:57 AM

iSilo 4.01 320x480
Medium
(Thrilled to see my big project on a big screen finally. I had designed it using DreamWeaver with a 320x480 handheld screen in mind, and I'm delighted with the way it works and looks on the T5!)

powerOne Graph 4.0 320x480
Medium
All my scripts are working fine.

MedCalc 4.4 320x480
Medium

Lance

10-29-2004, 07:03 AM

There may have been a conflict with another application, but I would get an error every time I opened the file manager. I will remove 5.00 Beta 4 and try it, again.

Thanks,
LanceI tried version 4.30, and I get the following error:

WindowGraphics.c,Line:1876,empty bitmap family

I do not get this error with version 5.00 Beta 4.

Thanks,
Lance

Alsicole

10-29-2004, 07:10 AM

I dropped a line to ZZTechs regarding my problem and they came straight back with version 4.31. I will install this evening at home and report back.

Lance

10-29-2004, 07:22 AM

Thanks for all the updates everyone! :) I have updated the list.

Please include links to the software. Preferrably, I would like the link to the developer's home page instead of PalmGear, Handango, etc.

Best regards,
Lance

seascape

10-29-2004, 07:27 AM

Lance

10-29-2004, 07:53 AM

Correction regarding MedCalc. That was an old version. The new version is
"RxCalc". Delete MedCalc from the list.

I tested version 4.0 of RxCalc -- it caused a Fatal Exception. I emailed the developer.RxCalc and MedCalc appear to be two different pieces of software. Both pieces of software are listed at PalmGear. MedCalc is at verison 5.1 and RxCalc is at version 4.0. I hope this helps.

By the way, RxCalc was formerly known as DoseCalcPlus.

Thanks,
Lance

kalel_rojin

10-29-2004, 08:42 AM

Datebk5 v5.4a-p1 (http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/datebk5-v54a-p1.zip) is supposed to be compatible with the T5

seascape

10-29-2004, 11:14 AM

ZLauncher 4.30 is causing some Fatal Resets. I have hunch the problem lies with graphics ("Window Graphics.c, Line 1876, empty bitmap family"). I installed the latest prc from ZZTechs website.

powerOne Graph only works in 320x320 (did I report 320x480?).

Bonsai 3.3.1 (latest)
320x480
www.natara.com
Medium
Bonsai or the T5 produced a white screen first time I opened it. I did a soft reset and it worked fine subsequently. But this isn't restricted to Bonsai, because I've encountered that white screen in other initial openings too. Maybe I'm not waiting long enough for the T5 to do something?

PregPro 4.05 (a 2001 version) 320x320
Medium
No longer supported, but worth knowing that some really old software runs fine.

Bejewelled 2.0 320x320
Medium
www.astraware.com

Filez 5.40017
320x320
URL?

FlashBoom
320x320
Another really old, black and white app (for measuring duration between lightning and thunder).
Medium

Cellulitis
320x320
A practice guidline that uses an old version of NSBRuntime.
Works fine.
Medium
Not available commercially.

BreakOut 1.1
www.kickoo.com
High
My favourite time-waster

Minehunt, the original PalmPilot version, no longer works: just a garbled screen, requiring soft reset.

ABGPro 2.2
320x320
Medium

AcidImage 3.011
320x480
www.acid-image.com
Medium
Works flawlessly, and looks just great on the T5's big screen.

Acid Solitaire 3.03
320x480

Planetarium 2.3.1f
320x480
Medium
www.abo.ch/pilotplanets
Also looks great on the big screen.

Alsicole

10-29-2004, 11:33 AM

In addition to Bejeweled, I have the most recent versions of Candy Train, Big Money, Hedgehog, Text Twist, Tradewinds, Chainz, Tantric and Noah's Ark, all from Astraware, and they all run fine too. Tradewinds even runs centre screen on the T5 i.e. not with the DIA area to fill in the bottom of the screen.

GadgetGuru

10-29-2004, 11:34 AM

Filez
http://nosleepsoftware.sourceforge.net/#filez

seascape

10-29-2004, 01:33 PM

RxCalc and MedCalc appear to be two different pieces of software. Both pieces of software are listed at PalmGear. MedCalc is at verison 5.1 and RxCalc is at version 4.0. I hope this helps. By the way, RxCalc was formerly known as DoseCalcPlus. LanceRight.

This works on the T5:
MedCalc 4.4
320x480
High
http://medcalc.med-ia.net

seascape

10-29-2004, 01:51 PM

Datebk5 v5.4a-p1 (http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/datebk5-v54a-p1.zip) is supposed to be compatible with the T5It's working well for me so far. Sooo nice to have that big screen!

seascape

10-29-2004, 01:55 PM

Bonsai or the T5 produced a white screen first time I opened it. I did a soft reset and it worked fine subsequently. But this isn't restricted to Bonsai, because I've encountered that white screen in other initial openings too. Maybe I'm not waiting long enough for the T5 to do something?The answer is definitely that I did not wait long enough for the T5 to respond. I saw this the first time I used several newly apps. Lately I've been waiting -- the screen always comes back eventually. The wait isn't very long. Subsequently the apps open as fast as always (promptly).

AKAJohnDoe

10-29-2004, 02:59 PM

There are newer versions of these: Isilo v4.15, and BBVFS v3.03
You should be testing the newer versions for compatibility, not the older ones.
:-)

I would like to see some older versions tested. Like SmartListToGo V2.603, for instance.

AKAJohnDoe

10-29-2004, 03:18 PM

Anyone have Pocket Quicken who could check both the execution on the PDA and the hotsync conduit?

Alsicole

10-29-2004, 04:18 PM

ipalm

10-29-2004, 10:42 PM

I've searched and can't find the answer to this question: What kinds of problems are seen with Shadow Plan 4 on the T5? In the Shadow support newsgroup the developer doesn't seem too interested in "reverse engineering" his program to fix the issues caused by P1's OS, so inquiring minds want to know how severe the problems are.

BTW, I do want to say that the developer's been incredibly supportive and responsive in the past, so I think this simply reflects his frustration with P1 and not an unwillingness to continually improve his great program which I've been running on my TC for years. I can't migrate completely to another PDA unless I know that Shadow will run properly!

William1

10-30-2004, 01:59 AM

I have tested the image viewer GrxView vers. 2.8.2 (www.indevsoftware.com) to a medium degree with JPGs and BMP files and works great.

I have run Hellfire vers. 1.00.04 (http://www.astraware.com/palm/featured/hellfire/?skucode=0205-111-0111) to a medium degree and it works fine (runs in 320x320 mode only)

mmurray

10-30-2004, 05:47 AM

Hi

I am using iSilo 4.15 and it works on 480 x 320 mode. (Medium confidence)
(http://www.isilo.com)

I also installed ThoughtManager (beamed from my m515) and it
opened in 320x320 -- haven't tried to do anything with it. (Low confidence).
http://www.handshigh.com/

Brainforest 3.08 works in 320x320 modem (medium confidence).
http://www.ultrasoft.com/BrainForest/Wish
Wish this one was 320 x 480.

Web Confidential 1.4 works in 320x320 (medium confidence)
Patience 2.6.1 works (medium confidence, 320x320).

Salling Clicker 2.2.372 works in 320x480.
http://homepage.mac.com/jonassalling/Shareware/Clicker/
(This is a neat app that lets you remote control various functions on
your Mac with your Palm (or phone) using BlueTooth).

PocketChess 1.1 works (low confidence) 320x320. This is a really old app.

Kalk 3.07 works (low confidence)
http://www.klawitter.de/palm/kalk.html

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Where you know it could you add to the list an indication of whether the app uses the whole 320x480 screen ??

Thanks - Michael

seascape

10-30-2004, 05:48 AM

I have not got Lexidrugs, PEPID or Sanford Guide running yet on my T5. Part of that is due to the change in Device ID, requiring answers from Customer Support, but part might be due to changes in the T5's software. I'm still working on all 3, since they are my key references at work.

PEPID needs a fancy workaround that unhooks HotSync's timeout, for example. PEPID is offering T5 users access to their online version while they work on the problem.

mmurray

10-30-2004, 05:52 AM

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Where you know it could you add to the list an indication of whether the app uses the whole 320x480 screen ??

Thanks - Michael

Sorry I am new to these lists and hadn't noticed you have a hi-res list
as well.

Thanks - Michael

seascape

10-30-2004, 06:58 AM

Lexidrugs is running now:
Reader: v. 2.2.041008
Database: Lexi-Drugs (International)
Low
www.lexi.com

Lance, what about a Yellow category, for software that runs on the T5, but there are known issues? eg:

ZLauncher (I don't like running betas).
PEPID (installation requires a HotSync timeout workaround).
DateBk5 (not fully integrated with T5 yet?).

seascape

10-30-2004, 09:21 AM

Screenshot 2.2 (latest)
320x480
Medium
www.linkesoft.com
I could not get it to trigger from the 5-way navigator up/down, but it triggers fine using the press-and-hold on the first hard button (the normal button functions work too, with a quick press-and-release. Here's a sample screenshot:

http://www.jimthompson.net/palmpda/images/T5b.gif

seascape

10-30-2004, 09:57 AM

Lance

10-30-2004, 10:34 AM

I am out-of-pocket, but I will update the list as soon as possible.

Thanks,
Lance

William1

10-30-2004, 11:02 AM

HanDBase 3.0k
Not stable. It works sometimes, but in the first few tries since installing it this morning:
1. I could open and view databases.
2. Then I got a Fatal Exception closing out a complex database that had been giving me trouble before. I did a soft reset by tapping the Reset virtual button.
3. I opened a basic flatfile database on the handheld, added a test record, closed HB, did a HotSync, and the record appeared in the desktop side fine.
4. I then deleted that record on the handheld, but when I try to close that database I keep getting a Fatal Exception when I press Home, requiring a soft rest triggered by pressing Reset on the screen. HB keeps opening with that database open. I tried a warm reset/soft reset sequence, which worked. I was then able to close that database.

Jim,
I use HanDBase 3.0K2 for tracking patients and procedures (in Interven. Rad.) I do - the main DB has 43 fields and it uses 4 linked databases, numerous popup lists, etc (i.e., I consider it to be a complex DB). I tried your steps 3 and 4 above, but I was unable to reproduce the problem. HanDBase has been rock solid on my T5 so far.

William1

10-30-2004, 11:15 AM

Crash vers 2.10 from www.79bmedia.com fails to load, saying that "Crash is currently not supported on this device or on this OS version", even though their web site says that it is OS 5 compatible. I sent them an email notifying them of Crash crashing (as it were).

seascape

10-30-2004, 05:45 PM

Skyscape's SmART reader system for their medical references, so far just running the EM eMedicine database (new downloads today): Works very well so far on the T5, after looking up several topics and tapping around, in and out of the eMedicine database. I also purchased 3 other products from Skyscape and will load them as well.

seascape

10-30-2004, 05:47 PM

Jim, I use HanDBase 3.0k2 has been rock solid on my T5 so far.Thanks for the cross-reference. I'll download what must be a later version of HB and try that.

Yupito

10-30-2004, 08:09 PM

Wha's the status of Tealscript? Gekko, says it causes fatal errors on hotsync, anyone can confirm that. This app is a must for G1 lovers....

I have been using this application (V3.52, http://www.tealpoint.com/softscrp.htm) and had not noticed any issues, until I saw this posting. I do get a number of fatal errors when I am trying to hotsync large files. How do you know it is Tealscript? :confused:

Yupi

10-30-2004, 08:46 PM

I have had numerous problems with this software and fatal exceptions. Has anyone else installed it from the installation CD? Any issues?

Telik

10-30-2004, 10:31 PM

RifleSlugs by Paragon Tech does NOT work. I've emalied them and am waiting for a reply.
http://palm-games.penreader.com/rifleslugs-II/index.html

GadgetGuru

10-30-2004, 10:38 PM

I have been using this application (V3.52, http://www.tealpoint.com/softscrp.htm) and had not noticed any issues, until I saw this posting. I do get a number of fatal errors when I am trying to hotsync large files. How do you know it is Tealscript? :confused:
According to Gekko, it happens on every hotsync when Tealscript is globally-enabled. If its not globally-enabled, even if Tealscript is in the handheld, nothing wrong happens on hotsync.

ahloon

10-31-2004, 02:52 AM

Novii Remote v2.51 said can't access the IR port of this device...
Omniremote crashed the T5.

Baurry

10-31-2004, 10:02 AM

PixelPusher

10-31-2004, 10:31 AM

I'm assuming all of you have installed the update from PalmOne ... if not that might explain why things work differently on two different T5s. (One updated and the other not.)

-Eric

Splat0104

10-31-2004, 12:41 PM

Aeroplayer 5.0.1 (http://www.aerodrome.us/index.html)
Seems to work well. Tested portrait & lanscape mode skins as well as changing skins. Only sees media on SD cards automatically, but you can create a playlist to use media on the internal falsh. The playlist editor sees those fine. Background play seems to work, Power saving screen timeout function works but overrides the system default while using background playback unless you use 'system default'. I'd call it a Medium

STBXXL

10-31-2004, 04:25 PM

I tested the following software on the T5 (with ROM update):

WORKS:
Stock Manager 4.40, 320x320, High, http://palmstocks.net
PocketTVBrowser 1.72, 320x320, High, http://www.doublebit.com
Sol Free 4.30, 480x320, High, http://www.smallware.com
Losungen 3.3, 480x320, High, http://www.axios.de/palm/palm_losung.html
HandyShopper 2.9b, 480x320, High, http://www.ggaub.com/hs
Dictionary 3.2.1, 320x320, Medium, http://www.evolutionary.net/dict-info.htm
Easy Calc 1.22, 320x320, Medium (with Mathlib), http://easycalc.sourceforge.net
HandMap 4.7.2, 480x320, Medium, http://www.handmap.net
Hiarcs 9.43, 320x320, Medium, http://www.hiarcs.com
ChessGenius 2.1, 320x320, Medium, http://www.chessgenius.com
ChessTiger 15.1, 320x320, Medium, http://www.chesstiger.com
TopSecret 3.60, 320x320, Medium, http://www.clicklite.com

DOESN'T WORK:
NoviiRemote 2.5.1 (incompatible with T5's IR port), http://www.novii.tv

I'm particularly glad that EasyCalc 1.22 works. This software is apparently not supported anymore but I haven't found anything else that even comes close. Very handy for the daily calculations I've to do as an engineer.

Cheers.

seascape

10-31-2004, 05:40 PM

Thanks for the cross-reference. I'll download what must be a later version of HB and try that.HanDBase v3.0k5 (a beta) works for me. No more Fatal Resets.

seascape

10-31-2004, 06:14 PM

LexiDrugs works on the T5. I used the demo all last night during a shift. To unlock the demo if previous subscribers are transferring to the T5 from another device, the subscriber has to phone or email Lexi-Comp's Tech Support to provide the new DeviceID, and then they will provide a new License Key. I found the procedure difficult to obtain from their website, but direct contact from their support folks fixed me up promptly.

seascape

10-31-2004, 06:17 PM

Breakout works fine, but if you see white spots and bizarre blocked areas on game screens, then that means the program has detected that the game is running on a different device, not matching the original registration. I went to www.kickoo.com and used their webforms to change the device ID from the T2 to the T5, which normalized the screens again. Interesting way to semi-cripple software: you can still play the game, but it is bizarre and difficult. I discovered the reason searching their support discussion forums.

tanjk

10-31-2004, 08:09 PM

Hi All,

New member, first post and t5 owner for 4 days. I am using Handbase 3.0K5 and it has been rock solid for me as well.

Also Ultrsoft Money 4.02 works at about 90%. It's very useable and syncs well. Some of the drop down menus cause the "sys 0505" error message.

Thanks for all of the contributions.

Ah ... thanks. May I know what are some of the menus that would cause the error? Do you need to soft reset the device?

Regards,
JK

Baurry

10-31-2004, 08:38 PM

Ah ... thanks. May I know what are some of the menus that would cause the error? Do you need to soft reset the device?

Regards,
JK
Under the Options>Preferences menu choosing anything other the general option freezes the program and it closes. No soft reset necessary. The program can be reopened right away and will function normally. However, while editing a transaction, choosing "payee" or "amt" will cause the sys 0505 error message and a soft reset is required.

I can write in amounts and payees and other fields with no problem I just can't use the drop downs.

Hope this helps.

ahloon

11-01-2004, 09:50 AM

Agendus Standard v8.06 wroks but not without problem. So far only encounter problems when using contacts with agendus. It sometimes freeze up after entering a new entry, sometime after editing an entry. But checking up any entry in contacts with Agendus and calling or sms doesn't have problem.

mo:Blog doesn't work on T5, with whatever versions.

Checkout this for my list of compatible softwares. http://www.kvpug.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10424&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Thanx.

Lance

11-01-2004, 01:24 PM

I think I have all the updates entered appropriately. If there is something that needs to be changed, please let me know.

Thanks,
Lance

Lance

11-01-2004, 05:18 PM

DataViz has released a patch for SmartList To Go 3.001 to provide compatibility with the Tungsten T5.

Download SmartList To Go Patch for Tungsten T5 (http://download.dataviz.com/support/patches/smartlisttogo/SmartListToGo.exe)

By the way, I updated the list. Now, all my critical software has been updated to be compatible with the T5. :)

Thanks,
Lance

seascape

11-01-2004, 06:20 PM

HanDBase 3.0k
Not stable. It works sometimes, but in the first few tries since installing it this morning:
1. I could open and view databases.
2. Then I got a Fatal Exception closing out a complex database that had been giving me trouble before. I did a soft reset by tapping the Reset virtual button.
3. I opened a basic flatfile database on the handheld, added a test record, closed HB, did a HotSync, and the record appeared in the desktop side fine.
4. I then deleted that record on the handheld, but when I try to close that database I keep getting a Fatal Exception when I press Home, requiring a soft rest triggered by pressing Reset on the screen. HB keeps opening with that database open. I tried a warm reset/soft reset sequence, which worked. I was then able to close that database.HanDBase tech said that this appears to be an isolated report, and others are using HB fine on the T5. The problem could have been due to some other software on my system. In any case I already downloaded their latest development version (3.0k5) and that is running fine on my T5.

Merang

11-01-2004, 10:03 PM

I tested the following software on the T5 (with ROM update):

DOESN'T WORK:
NoviiRemote 2.5.1 (incompatible with T5's IR port), http://www.novii.tv

NoviiRemote is working fine on my T5. Tested with my TV, CD player etc. The version that i have is ver 2.2. (320x320) medium

One question: My SMS app does not register itself as a Quick Connect (meaning i cant SMS directly from Contact). Is this normal or did i missed anything?

Thanks.

miniac

11-01-2004, 11:33 PM

I've been using the latest pre-release version of Datebook 5 for a few days now and it seems reasonably well-behaved. However, since it is pre-release software, I would leave the confidence rating on Lance's list at "medium" for now.
Datebook 5 v5.4a-p1
www.datebk5.com
confidence=medium

Two notes:
1) An apparent oddity of this Datebook 5 on my T5 is that if I shut off the display during the first 30 seconds after an alarm starts to sound, the display turns itself back on at the 30 second mark. Harmless, but a little startling.

2) One of the features of Datebook 5 that seemed to continue to work on the T5 when I first installed it (v5.1b-s7) was a setup that occurred during the initial launch of the software after install - Datebook 5 asks if you want to have it take over hardware button 1. I always say "yes" to this feature.

On previous devices, of course, one could go to PalmOs Prefs > Buttons and set it that way anyway. On the T5, the only allowed settings for hardware button one are now "applications" or "favorites". My initial exposure to the T5 with Datebk 5 showed me that this old feature managed to reset hardware button one as it always did. How pleased I was! BTW, with the T5 set this way, the PalmOS Prefs > Buttons for hardware button one shows "-unselected-". Heh.

When I UPGRADED from Datebk 5 v5.1b-s7 to v5.4a-p1, this button setting stayed intact - that is, hardware button one still launched Datebk 5. Hooray.

Later after another in a series of hard resets as I tested various bits of very crufty software, I did a clean install of Datebk 5 v5.4a-p1 onto my T5 which only had my 4 saved PIM databases on it. I answered "yes", as always, to the ability to launch Datebk 5 from hardware button one. In this case, however, with the clean install of only the latest pre-release, the button setting did NOT stick. I was disappointed. However, I deleted Datebk 5 v5.4a-p1, installed v5.1b-s7, got the button working again, then upgraded back to v5.4a-p1, with the button setting intact once again.

I know I'm ****ed if anyone ever "helps" me by reseting that button (well, until I deinstall and reinstall and upgrade again, that is), but I thought people here might be amused or pleased to know that you CAN get that setting to work on the T5 if you're persistent (or stubborn).

BTW I have just this evening submitted a support request to Pimlico Software for the second item.
\s\
/Peggy C - the miniac - www.miniusa.com - Let's Motor

Splat0104

11-02-2004, 12:10 AM

Snails (www.snailsgame.com or www.pdamill.com) causes the following :
MemoryMgr.c,Line:3811,NilPtr

Needless to say, unless it's an issue with my unit it's a Red Light right now

This includes testing the T2 version, the T3 version, the 320x480 with music (other OS5) and the 320x480 without music (other OS5).

(sigh) the PPC version is a great game and I was looking forward to it.

Yupito

11-02-2004, 01:01 AM

Uninstall Manager v2.60 (www.northglide.com) causes Fatal Alert, MemoryMgr.c, Line:3740, Free Handle.

oz-nom

11-02-2004, 01:49 AM

I just added the webpage for LifeBalance to my earlier post.
To download the app:
http://www.llamagraphics.com/LB/LifeBalanceTop.html

To request the patch:
http://www.llamagraphics.com/support/email.html

Lance, can you add this to your list?

Cheers,
Tim

soccrnj80

11-02-2004, 12:14 PM

Do not use aol for palm!!! I posted a few days ago about losing all bluetooth capabilities on my t5. I did a painstaking install of each app to figure out why this was happening. I would install the app, then reset my t5. After I installed aol for palm I got a fatal alert after reset, then did a warm rest(up button) and my bluetooth was gone. I deleted aol, did a rest, and it works perfect!!! This app kicked my a@@ for over a week, and palm sent me a new t5. Live and learn. Do no install aol.

Alsicole

11-02-2004, 05:07 PM

Megaclock has been updated to version 2.1 and no longer crashes
ZLauncher full version 5.0 now released, and fully compatible.

Phaggard

11-02-2004, 05:35 PM

ZZtechs has raised the cost of Zlauncher 5.0 to $19.95. If you are previous registrar, you can upgrade for $5.95.

William1

11-03-2004, 01:42 AM

Uninstall Manager v2.60 (www.northglide.com) causes Fatal Alert, MemoryMgr.c, Line:3740, Free Handle.

I use the same program, same version without problems.

I am also using YAPS, version 2.5, medium testing, 320x320 mode only, without problems. See http://www.freewarepalm.com/database/yaps.shtml

seascape

11-03-2004, 03:49 AM

Sanford Guide 2004 v 4.0
works fine
high confidence
320x320

PEPID: I finally have it installed and running.
medium confidence
320x320
The PEPID team had to hold my hand through the installation. I used their latest PEPID Manager, had to use the developer's backdoor workaround (turns off HotSync timeout), and had to install to RAM, but it seems to be working fine. They are working hard on solving the installation problems presented by the new HotSync software and T5 memory configuration, and they are giving excellent tech support to T5 users.

Alsicole

11-03-2004, 06:48 AM

I use the same program, same version without problems.

I am also using YAPS, version 2.5, medium testing, 320x320 mode only, without problems. See http://www.freewarepalm.com/database/yaps.shtml

I'm actually using an even older version of Uninstall Manager, and that works fine too.

Yupito

11-03-2004, 10:55 PM

I'm actually using an even older version of Uninstall Manager, and that works fine too.

Try the following routine:
Uninstall/menu/main/delete 'a68k' files

mmurray

11-04-2004, 04:37 AM

There are newer versions of these: Isilo v4.15, and BBVFS v3.03
You should be testing the newer versions for compatibility, not the older ones.
:-)

I had an email last week from Blue Nomad saying that BBVFS is not fully compatible with the T5 and they are waiting to either buy one or for PalmOne to realise an emulator.

Michael

seascape

11-04-2004, 04:43 AM

PEPID: I finally have it installed and running.
medium confidenceI have to revise this again. It has not been stable on my system for some reason. The PEPID team is very responsive and working hard on it. They are also very supportive.

algae737

11-04-2004, 02:52 PM

Lance,

I posted a similar question on a separate thread, but this may be the more appropriate place. I noticed Handstory is on the Green List & seems to be recommended by everyone, but I'm having major problems with it.

I've tried unsuccessfully to install Handstory on my T5 (both 2.3 & 3.1). I've always used AvantGo, so I have no experience with the software.

Specifically, I'm getting fatal resets on my T5 and "Handstory converter has encountered errors...must shut down" on my PC (even when adding a "canned" web clip from their web page).

Thanks, in advance, for your help.

Algae

Reggie

11-04-2004, 04:27 PM

Red Mercury has added support to AcidImage and its other apps to support the T5 and Treo 650:

http://1src.com/?m=show&id=615

soccrnj80

11-04-2004, 05:07 PM

Silverscreen 3.3 is working fine on my t5, no errors or anything.

Lance

11-04-2004, 06:41 PM

I have updated this list to include the posts since my last update.

Thanks,
Lance

ipalm

11-04-2004, 06:49 PM

Red Mercury has added support to AcidImage and its other apps to support the T5 and Treo 650:

http://1src.com/?m=show&id=615

If you follow that link to the Red Mercury site you'll find that they've put together a really nice explanation of the new memory architecture in the T5.

Lance

11-04-2004, 06:56 PM

If you follow that link to the Red Mercury site you'll find that they've put together a really nice explanation of the new memory architecture in the T5.Excellent read! Thanks for the tip, ipalm! :D

Integrated FLASH Memory and What it Means to You (http://www.red-mercury.com/nvfs.html)

Later,
Lance

Yupito

11-05-2004, 01:02 AM

Lance,
I think that it is a great idea and initiative on your part to keep this running list of software compability with the T5. I would like to suggest that a list of identified bugs in the T5 native software also be included in the hope that someone in P1 is paying attention. I know of 2 bugs:

1) SMS and Difficulty in Retrieving Messages - always get "No new messages". I believe this is also true in the T3.
2) Global find freezes after 8 contacts if there are 9 or more recurrences in contacs. See http://discussion.brighthand.com/palmhandhelds/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69482&highlight=global+search

seascape

11-05-2004, 05:32 AM

Documents to Go Premium:
On Brightside they reported that DTGP cannot display graphs yet. DataViz says they are working on a T5 upgrade.

McFile 2.11 (2002 version)
Seems to work fine
Medium confidence
320x320

ZLauncher 5 is great on the T5. No problems so far. Worth the upgrade fee, in my opinion, if only for their file manager tool.

seascape

11-05-2004, 05:36 AM

I can give Bonsai 3.3.1 a Medium confidence rating now. Using it daily at work on the handheld, just have not tested the conduit to the the desktop.

Lance

11-05-2004, 08:11 AM

I have updated the list, again. I reviewed the entire thread and caught a few things I missed. In addition, I made the lists numbered while adding more detail where applicable. I hope this helps.

Best regards,
Lance

kalel_rojin

11-05-2004, 08:56 AM

Botzam Backup version 2.10 is supposed to work with the T5 (I don't have a T5 to test it on) according to http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&SID=08FB84EC-CF18-ADC1-A7421FC6B8E16FFC&PartnerREF=&catid=0&area=software.newupdated&searchtitle=Search%20Results&searchterm=&step=1&orderby=modificationdate&direction=asc&userid=0&prodid=42524
If you notice the Updated Description where it says "2.10 (11/4/04):
Updated and improved, tested on T5 2.04 (06/17/03):
Improved compatibility with TealLock and similiar software when they are enabled."

SuperSaiyan

11-05-2004, 11:38 AM

ZLauncher 5 is great on the T5. No problems so far. Worth the upgrade fee, in my opinion, if only for their file manager tool.
Really?
When I go into ZL5 preferences the "ok" button is always ghosted into 2 buttons with the bottom "ok" button being the active one. If I select another preferences tab the ghost button goes away until I reopen ZL preferences again. I also get a fatal exception/reset everytime I go into horizontal mode while in ZL preferences with my T5. ZL5 is not ready for primetime on my T5 at this point :mad:

seascape

11-05-2004, 12:38 PM

When I go into ZL5 preferences the "ok" button is always ghosted into 2 buttons with the bottom "ok" button being the active one. If I select another preferences tab the ghost button goes away until I reopen ZL preferences again. I also get a fatal exception/reset everytime I go into horizontal mode while in ZL preferences with my T5. ZL5 is not ready for primetime on my T5 at this point :mad:1. I get the same effect with the OK buttons, but I never noticed because it was not a problem in the way I used ZL Preferences.
2. Landscape mode does not force a fatal exception on my T5.

SuperSaiyan

11-05-2004, 12:53 PM

2. Landscape mode does not force a fatal exception on my T5.
I don't have a clue what it could be then because I just got the T5 last week and haven't really put much of anything on it yet :confused:

seascape

11-05-2004, 01:48 PM

I inadvertently installed Pocket Tunes version 2 (I missed the precise version number), but it ran fine. In fact I was sitting here reading the forums and listening to old mp3 music on the T5, until I saw that I should have upgraded to version 3. So the old version seems to work too.

oz-nom

11-05-2004, 11:55 PM

Update on LifeBalance (http://www.llamagraphics.com/index.html).
I have an intermittent problem with hotsync occasionally crashing requiring a soft reset. I don't know how widespread this is, or even if it affects PCs or only Macs. The support team at Llamagraphics are working on the problem.

Otherwise, it is working fine, except for the fact that it is painfully slow (see earlier comments).

Fantastic program, but if you are using a T5 I'd wait for the public update (rather than the emailled patch) before beginning to use it for 1st time. I'm doing as much as I can on the desktop then hotsyncing changes as needed.
Tim

Merang

11-06-2004, 11:08 AM

List for T5 Owners to Test
Handstory 2.3: While it appears to be on the Green Light List, it appears to be causing other people some problems. Can anyone else comment on their experience? Thanks!

I have been using Handstory 2.3 on my T5 for over a week now. I'd say its behaving normally as it would on my previous TT. I dont notice any problem at all accept that it only work on 320x320.

Handstory ver 3.1 (http://www.namo.com/products/handstory/features/palm/palm3.1.html) in the other hand is very unstable on my T5. Soft resets almost everytime i launch it. Looks like it has problems with the new memory arrangement (internal/external SD), not to mention very slow. I must say though that it does has a nice new interface, support 320x480 - probably designed spesifically for the T3. I wouldn't mind upgrading though once they make it work on the T5.

Hope this is useful to those who needs to know..

GadgetGuru

11-06-2004, 11:33 AM

Merang, How about the PC portion of Handstory 2.3...It used to delete the whole memo database (not T5) it you say, add a entry from PC counterpart of Handstory. I understand, the PalmOne patch solves this for the earlier handhelds supposedly (though I haven't tested it).

Merang

11-06-2004, 12:26 PM

GadgetGuru

You were right, adding a memo directly from Handstory (PC) interface will wipe out all curent memos. I'm surprise because i've been using HS since 2002 and didnt know about this! I guess its because its not my habit to add memos (or anything) directly from Handstory PC interface. In my case i always use Agendus for Windows to add memos, contacts etc. I mainly use HS just for clips and quickly convert any onscreen text to palm doc files. FYI, the same bug is still there in version 3.1. Just tried it just now.

SoS

11-06-2004, 12:27 PM

ipalm

11-06-2004, 05:22 PM

I got tired of waiting for a response, so I went ahead and tried it myself. Seems to work OK as a self-contained program, but experienced lockups whenever deleting any item with a link to the Task PIM, requiring a soft reset. Didn't try with links to the other PIM applications. I sure hope the developer will come up with a fix soon - his comments on the Yahoo board are not very encouraging. Anybody have more recent information on this?

Meanwhile, the developers of Bonsai have updated their application to be T5 compatible...

DavidP

11-07-2004, 01:47 PM

The first post is updated. In fact, there is a date and time that is was updated at the end of the first post. In addition, I try to reply in the thread to mention it has been updated.

As far as Documents To Go Total Office goes, all the components have been updated (Documents To Go, SmartList To Go, and Beyond Contacts), but I do not know how the Total Office is packaged. Is it one install?

Feel free to respond on the thread pertaining to the software list here (http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71634).

Thanks,
Lance

Yes, I see that date now at the bottom. Sorry, kind of new here and just learning the ropes.

It appears that Docstogo Office (http://http://www.dataviz.com/products/datavizoffice/index.html) is a single package containing Premium, Beyond Contacts and Smartlist. I'm not sure if they just bundle all the individual ones together, or it's a single install. I'm hesitant to install if it's going to cause problems. I suppose I could email Dataviz.

thanks,
david..

Virlin

11-07-2004, 02:45 PM

ViaMichelin Maps and Route Planning v1.0: medium-high once you get it running - you have to use the Files application to rename or create a folder called VMCarto_Maps on Internal memory or SD card to put your maps in. Full hi-res screen, works well. GPS a bit slow to connect via Bluetooth, and woe betide you if you turn Bluetooth off before disabling it first in Maps and Route Planning! Unless you enjoy hard resets, don't follow their advice to install FileZ T3 support.
Documents to Go Premium Ver 7.002 build 829: medium-high. Full hi-res screen
eReader from PalmOne CD v.2.5.4f: medium. Full hi-res screen.
FileZ 6.4: medium, but *don't* install the T3 support. I'm running mine from the SD card.
Plucker v 1.8: medium-high. Don't use Plucker Desktop to install the reader, because it only does v 1.6, which is 320x320. The 1.8 reader is a separate download and does full hi-res.
Resco Viewer V 2.11: medium-high. Well worth the $$. A good graphics viewer, fast, and allows a bit of image adjustment. (brightness/contrast/gamma). Full hi-res screen.
HandMap 4.7: low-medium. Bit of a puzzle - dragging the map north-west caused total collapse, and various errors occurred at other times as well. The vendor's support was able to reproduce the fault on the emulator, but not consistently. In the light of other comments here, and having removed some possible sources of conflict, I'll try again.
I think some problems are caused by conflicts: something (MobiPocket? EasyCalc 1.22?) messed up Plucker, Documents to Go, and eReader. Go figure.

Telik

11-07-2004, 02:56 PM

Still nothing from Penreader, maker of RifleSlugs. They don't answer my emails. I'm going to try again, and hope! :eek: The reason the program doesn't work, is that it blanks out the screen and displays nothing. Perhaps there's a workaround, but I've seen none.

constantine_j_k

11-07-2004, 03:20 PM

Hello,

does anyone if Resco explorer works fine with the T5?

Thanks :confused:

seascape

11-07-2004, 04:05 PM

Documents To Go was running fine on my desktop. When I installed the T5 to my laptop, DTG automatically installed there too (from the palmOne CD). Can we use DTG on both computers with that one registration license? I couldn't find that at Dataviz' website. Thanks.

chandra

11-07-2004, 07:51 PM

Is Receiveit still work on T5 ?
thank's

Lance

11-08-2004, 08:38 AM

Yes, I see that date now at the bottom. Sorry, kind of new here and just learning the ropes.

It appears that Docstogo Office (http://http://www.dataviz.com/products/datavizoffice/index.html) is a single package containing Premium, Beyond Contacts and Smartlist. I'm not sure if they just bundle all the individual ones together, or it's a single install. I'm hesitant to install if it's going to cause problems. I suppose I could email Dataviz.

thanks,
david..After looking at their web site, I think it is save to say that they probably just bundle the software together in one box while the actual installations are probably separate. I say that only because you cannot download a trial version of the Total Office package. You can only download trial versions of the individual software packages. Thus, when you purchased Total Office, you would probably end up getting the latest versions of Beyond Contacts, Documents To Go, and SmartList To Go.

Anyway, I would still recommend contacting DataViz to be sure.

Thanks,
Lance

Lance

11-08-2004, 08:50 AM

I have updated the list accordingly. I will wait to hear more about HandMap 4.7 (http://www.handmap.net/Palm/) before I put it in a list.

Thanks,
Lance

Virlin

11-09-2004, 03:02 PM

I tried all sorts of things, but no way could I get Handmap 4.7 to run without crashing out big time.
However, as a stopgap, version 4.5 (but not the Clié version!) runs in colour, but no hi-res. Better than nothing, but not good enough for something I've paid for!
I have notified the developers of the problem, but no solution yet.
I'd rate 4.5 medium at least.

SoS

11-09-2004, 03:05 PM

tomtom navigator anyone??

DavidP

11-09-2004, 04:05 PM

After looking at their web site, I think it is save to say that they probably just bundle the software together in one box while the actual installations are probably separate. I say that only because you cannot download a trial version of the Total Office package. You can only download trial versions of the individual software packages. Thus, when you purchased Total Office, you would probably end up getting the latest versions of Beyond Contacts, Documents To Go, and SmartList To Go.

Anyway, I would still recommend contacting DataViz to be sure.

Thanks,
Lance

Dataviz has notified me that both Total Office and Passwords Plus are T5 compatible. I suppose you could add this to the software list.

I ordered and downloaded the Total Office package and I did have to download all the separate packages. You were correct that it appears to be the latest versions of the individual packages.

Final question. Is Chapura's Pocketmirror Key Suite compatible, and a worthwhile conduit upgrade?

thanks again,
david..

Lance

11-09-2004, 04:35 PM

Dataviz has notified me that both Total Office and Passwords Plus are T5 compatible. I suppose you could add this to the software list.

I ordered and downloaded the Total Office package and I did have to download all the separate packages. You were correct that it appears to be the latest versions of the individual packages.

Final question. Is Chapura's Pocketmirror Key Suite compatible, and a worthwhile conduit upgrade?

thanks again,
david..There are several options available to synchronize your data with Outlook. You have purchased one of them, Beyond Contacts. Key Suite is another option and is a competitor for Beyond Contacts. The standard and professional versions of PocketMirror synchronize Outlook data with the built-in PIM applications on the Palm device. If you use the conduits provided with the Palm on the installation CD, it also synchronizes the data in Outlook with the built-in PIM applications on the Palm. Beyond Contacts and Key Suite use their own applications and databases. Thus, Agendus and DateBk5 can access the data if you use the bundled software on the installation CD or PocketMirror, but they cannot access the data in Beyond Contacts and/or Key Suite.

I can go into more detail if you like, but I hope this gets the general idea across.

Thanks,
Lance

KongK

11-09-2004, 11:51 PM

Here's the results from my testing (since last Saturday) :-

Shadowplan 4.0.1 - Works fine.

LauncherX 1.1 - Works but does display battery life in percentage. Only displays voltage.

TomeRaider 2.88 - Works fine.

MiD 5.3.3 - Works but dictionary database needs to reside on INTERNAL Flash storage

MegaCalculator 2.3.4 - Works but text are slightly misaligned

RescoExplorer 2.2.0 - Works fine.

HTH
KK

ipalm

11-10-2004, 12:23 AM

Here's the results from my testing (since last Saturday) :-

Shadowplan 4.0.1 - Works fine.

KK

ShadowPlan 4.0.1 does not work for me. Can you try this? Create an item and link it to the ToDo database from Shadow. Now delete the item in Shadow. My handheld locks up, requiring a soft reset. Does yours behave differently?

KongK

11-10-2004, 02:15 AM

ShadowPlan 4.0.1 does not work for me. Can you try this? Create an item and link it to the ToDo database from Shadow. Now delete the item in Shadow. My handheld locks up, requiring a soft reset. Does yours behave differently?

Yikes... It locks up! :( Sorry, didn't test the linking functions earlier. Ever since SP could handle alarms, I stop linking SP items to my tasks or appointments....

kpr

11-10-2004, 03:02 AM

I gave Web Pro 3.0.1 a try on the T5 since I really like its bigger font size and Full Screen mode that Blazer 4.0 does not have, but it did not work.

All I got was a screen full of garbage and had to soft reset.

You can buy Web Pro 3.0.1 from
http://software.palmone.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=291&productId=88625

palmOne's web page says:

Palm Web Pro 3.0 is compliant with Palm-branded OS5.x handheld devices. This includes Treo 600, Palm Tungsten E, Palm Tungsten C, Palm Tungsten T, T2, T3 and Palm Zire 71. This software is not compatible with non Palm-branded handheld devices.

I hope that palmOne comes out with a free update for those who bought this program.

PS. Someone wrote earlier that OmniRemote does not work. I did not see the first post updated with this information.

kpr

11-10-2004, 05:39 AM

GeekSounds 2.4 Works

http://www.freewarepalm.com/utilities/geeksounds.shtml

Confidence Level: Medium

If someone finds a newer version or the developer's web site, please pass this information on.

Lance

11-10-2004, 08:50 AM

There are several options available to synchronize your data with Outlook. You have purchased one of them, Beyond Contacts. Key Suite is another option and is a competitor for Beyond Contacts. The standard and professional versions of PocketMirror synchronize Outlook data with the built-in PIM applications on the Palm device. If you use the conduits provided with the Palm on the installation CD, it also synchronizes the data in Outlook with the built-in PIM applications on the Palm. Beyond Contacts and Key Suite use their own applications and databases. Thus, Agendus and DateBk5 can access the data if you use the bundled software on the installation CD or PocketMirror, but they cannot access the data in Beyond Contacts and/or Key Suite.

I can go into more detail if you like, but I hope this gets the general idea across.

Thanks,
LanceMy earlier response may have been a bit misleading. You can use DateBk5 and Agendus with Beyond Contacts and/or KeySuite. You just have to make sure the conduits are enabled to synchronize your Outlook data with your built-in PIM applications. These conduits (if setup to synchronize with Outlook using the software on the T5 installation CD) should be listed as Calendar (Outlook), Contacts (Outlook), Notes (Outlook), and Tasks (Outlook). This will allow DateBk5 and Agendus to access the data. Currently, I do not think Agendus if fully compaible with the T5.

Even though you can use Beyond Contacts and DateBk5, I do want to remind you that the data is still separate. Thus, you may have to perform two HotSyncs to get the data updated everywhere. For example, you make a calendar update to DateBk5. This will not be seen in Beyond Contacts until the Calendar (Outlook conduit) updates Outlook. Then Outlook has to transfer the information to Beyond Contacts. Depending on the HotSync order of the conduits, this might take two HotSyncs.

Anyway, I hope this helps. Thank you, and I apologize for any confusion.

Best regards,
Lance

DavidP

11-10-2004, 01:03 PM

My earlier response may have been a bit misleading. You can use DateBk5 and Agendus with Beyond Contacts and/or KeySuite. You just have to make sure the conduits are enabled to synchronize your Outlook data with your built-in PIM applications. These conduits (if setup to synchronize with Outlook using the software on the T5 installation CD) should be listed as Calendar (Outlook), Contacts (Outlook), Notes (Outlook), and Tasks (Outlook). This will allow DateBk5 and Agendus to access the data. Currently, I do not think Agendus if fully compaible with the T5.

Even though you can use Beyond Contacts and DateBk5, I do want to remind you that the data is still separate. Thus, you may have to perform two HotSyncs to get the data updated everywhere. For example, you make a calendar update to DateBk5. This will not be seen in Beyond Contacts until the Calendar (Outlook conduit) updates Outlook. Then Outlook has to transfer the information to Beyond Contacts. Depending on the HotSync order of the conduits, this might take two HotSyncs.

Anyway, I hope this helps. Thank you, and I apologize for any confusion.

Best regards,
Lance

Thank you. This does clarify it better. I still have questions regarding ease of use and features. Is there a forum that discusses the merits of the various datebooks, and contact managers, available?

david..

Lance

11-10-2004, 01:51 PM

I have moved this list to my web site since it is easier for me to update. Please feel free to comment in this thread, and I will update the list accordingly.

PalmOne Tungsten T5 Compatibility List (http://www.palmfocus.com/tt5software.asp)

Thank you!

Best regards,
Lance

oz-nom

11-10-2004, 08:27 PM

MobileDB v4.1.4 (www.handmark.com) is a REDLIGHT.
It begins OK but hangs when you try to load a database from the internal "card" or when doing any action that requires moving a database from external to internal memory (which MobileDB seems to want to do often). I suspect it is unable to deal with 2 external memory options.
Tim

quantumred

11-10-2004, 10:23 PM

MMPlayer 0.2.14
Still has the same bookmark problem. You can't use bookmarks on an SD card, only the internal card. Thus you can't resume a video where you left off.

kpr

11-11-2004, 05:25 AM

BlueBoard 2.1.2 and BlueChat 2.1.2 Work

Software came on T3's CD.
Surprised that I did not see them on the T5's CD.
http://kb.palmone.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE?New,Kb=PalmSupportKB,ts=Palm_External2001,case=obj(14767)

Manuals: http://www.palmone.com/us/support/tungstent3/handbooks.html#bluetooth

Confidence Level: Medium

Both only support 320x320

seascape

11-11-2004, 06:58 AM

PEPID will run, but only with considerable help from tech support. They are still working out the issues, which seem to have to do with HotSync/install, from what I can tell. I have heard that once on the T5, PEPID works OK, but I do not have a running version yet.

kpr

11-11-2004, 07:55 AM

FindHack 4.0.6 Works

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fpillet/findhack.html

Confidence Level: Medium

Results screen is only 320x320, but otherwise the rest is 320x480.

5-Way Navigation Pad does not scroll results list.

kpr

11-11-2004, 08:54 AM

Leonard Maltin's 2003 Movie Guide version 1.1 (build 0031) Works

http://www.landware.com/catalog/palmos/

Confidence Level: Medium

320x480

Note: Latest version is 2005, which I do not have access to yet.

Lance

11-11-2004, 10:50 AM

I have updated the list accordingly. Thank you for all your input!

Sincerely,
Lance

Reminder: I have moved this list to my web site since it is easier for me to update. Please feel free to comment in this thread, and I will update the list accordingly.

PalmOne Tungsten T5 Software Compatibility List (http://www.palmfocus.com/tt5software.asp)

Baurry

11-12-2004, 11:55 AM

Ultrasoft Money 4.1 has been released to address Money 2005 compatability and solve T5 & Treo 650 issues. I'll report back in about a day on how well it works.

tritan

11-13-2004, 11:35 AM

I wrote My Bible and they reported this:

"Thank you for your message and your continued interest in the Laridian software.

You should have no trouble using MyBible 3.0 and your Bible translations with the T5.

Let us know if we can be of further assistance."

Patty B.
Laridian Sales and Support

I also checked and bluenomads Backup buddy its in verison 3.05 now should work completely with T5.

SuperSaiyan

11-13-2004, 01:55 PM

I also checked and bluenomads Backup buddy its in verison 3.05 now should work completely with T5.
Where did you read that it now works with the T5?
The download page says that 3.05 is not compatible with the T5 and 3.05 in the version history mentions nothing about T5 compatibility.

add: just doublechecked and no....3.05 produces a (Sys 0505) (0,841) error when attempting to access the card. ...bummer

SoS

11-13-2004, 03:10 PM

anyone tried bdicty (http://www.beiks.com/palmzonebg/ShowTitle.asp?TitleID=78)...??

DavidP

11-14-2004, 04:38 AM

anyone tried bdicty (http://www.beiks.com/palmzonebg/ShowTitle.asp?TitleID=78)...??

I've been running the French-English version and it works fine... if that's any consolation.

david..

Lance

11-15-2004, 01:11 PM

I have updated the list accordingly. Besides what has been mentioned in this thread, someone e-mailed me about Pocket Quicken 2.03 and TealScript 3.52. Thank you for all your input!

Sincerely,
Lance

Reminder: I have moved this list to my web site since it is easier for me to update. Please feel free to comment in this thread, and I will update the list accordingly. Click on T5 Software List (http://www.palmfocus.com/tt5software.asp) in my signature.

oz-nom

11-15-2004, 04:59 PM

Llamagraphics have just released a new beta update for T5 users of Life Balance. New version is: Life Balance 3.2.6d2. You still need to request it by email (as it is a beta) but it is significantly faster than the previous version. It is blindingly fast in fact.

All aspects that I have tested work well. However, Llamagraphics customer support say the occasional Hotsync bug has not yet been fixed. I would still rate it "medium".

LifeBalance website - http://www.llamagraphics.com/

Cheers,
Tim

palmato

11-15-2004, 05:01 PM

LuvMyT5

11-16-2004, 01:21 AM

[QUOTE=quantumred]SmartList To Go 3.001

Causes error on start:
(Sys 0505) (0, 841)

Then fatal exception -> reset...

SmartList is totally a must-have for me too, but after getting the error, I emailed their support and they have the fix up already. SmartList works great on the T5 now.

[QUOTE=Gekko]These don't work on the T5:
1. Graffiti 1 Files
2. TealScript...

I have had no problem using TealScript and TealEcho on the T5--have been using it daily for several weeks. As for problems others have reported, globally enabled TealScript has never crashed in synch and I synch a LOT.

Jochen K.

11-16-2004, 12:17 PM

Wha's the status of Tealscript? Gekko, says it causes fatal errors on hotsync, anyone can confirm that. This app is a must for G1 lovers....

I don't know about any HotSync problems, because I HotSync only when I absolutely have to.
I copied the program and my profile to the T5 from an SD card via UniCMD; apparently it works without a hitch ("Medium", I guess).

Regards, Jochen K.

Lance

11-17-2004, 10:07 AM

It's a rather exotic request, but does anyone know if Dokusha works on the T5?

Dokusha is an English-Japanese dictionary and kanji learning tool. (website here (http://www.geocities.com/andrew_brault/dokusha/)).
It has been designed for older Palms and should work fine, but it has 6 databases of ~700K each and the new memory architecture might create problems.It appears the author's web site is no longer available, but the software is. Here is the link to it on FreewarePalm.

Dokusha v1.5 (http://www.freewarepalm.com/educational/dokusha.shtml)

Thanks,
Lance

By the way, I have updated the list with the items in this thread and e-mailed to me. Click on link in my signature for the latest list. Thanks.

The Palmster

11-18-2004, 08:21 AM

Maybe I've missed it but I don't see either of the following software titles on Lance's list:

Contacts5, MobiPassword and PowerOne Finance.

Any reports on compatibility? I hope to get my T5 shipped to me before the weekend and will post my experience but wondering whether there is any other info out there?

Yupito

11-18-2004, 10:34 PM

Lance

11-19-2004, 12:16 AM

Lance,
I see that you moved TealScript 3.52 from the red to green list. I am an avid user and have been for some time, but can confirm that this application does cause crashes during HS when enabled globally. The application does work fine during day-to-day use.

From what I have been able to research there is an issue with the stack memory and applications that work in the background. This is one of them.TealPoint does not acknowledge any problem with the T5 and TealScript on their web site, but I will note in the list that some are working fine and some installations are not.

Thanks,
Lance

seascape

11-19-2004, 05:52 AM

PEPID acknowledges on their website that they are still working hard on their T5 HotSync issues too. PEPID tech support is extremely helpful to T5 owners, and will get you running, but not through the standard methods.

ementat

11-19-2004, 09:39 AM

Clip Pro 2.0 (http://www.pocketscience.com.au/products.asp#ClipPRO) is one of the applications to cause random resets on TT5 after successful hotsync :(

SuperSaiyan

11-19-2004, 11:54 AM

Kinoma Player/Producer 3.0 seems to be working very well on my T5. I think we can move KP off the redlight list now :D

Lance

11-19-2004, 12:32 PM

Kinoma Player/Producer 3.0 seems to be working very well on my T5. I think we can move KP off the redlight list now :D:eek: Where?

Please,
Lance

SuperSaiyan

11-19-2004, 02:29 PM

:eek: Where?
heh heh. Actually, I think it's in pre-release at the moment. All those that are registered owners should have gotten an e-mail this morning with the info but it doesn't appear to be posted on their site yet. I upgraded before I left for work and have been fiddling with it all day....pretty nice. I would post the specs but I forgot to forward that e-mail to myself at work. If it's not already posted by the time I get home, I'll do it then. :D

-SS

SuperSaiyan

11-19-2004, 06:26 PM

Heres a bit of info about KP 3.0 from the email I received this morning.

The new Kinoma Producer 3 can create MPEG-4 and AAC output for Palm OS 5 based handhelds running Kinoma Player 3 EX. MPEG-4 has very high visual quality, compared to the Kinoma 2 movies you are now making. AAC audio sounds incredible and takes up far less space.

You will find dozens of refinements along with powerful new import capabilities in your copy of Kinoma Producer 3. To take advantage of these new output formats, Kinoma is also releasing Kinoma Player 3 and Kinoma Player 3 EX.

Kinoma Player 3 EX extends your ability to playback even more media types. You can now play the best quality MPEG-4 and H.263 video, new audio playback of unprotected iTunes AAC songs, some QuickTime files, and the ability to view JPEG images directly. In the next few days we will be updating the Kinoma web site with details about these new products.

-SS

ahloon

11-20-2004, 03:09 AM

t5userneedshelp

11-20-2004, 03:31 AM

Now that it's confirmed that Filez works on the T5, has anyone figured out how to get old Graffiti 1 to replace Graffiti 2? Of course, I mean without using Tealscript or Jot. This Graffiti 2 is @$%#ing me off. Sorry, had to vent.
Thanks

Alsicole

11-20-2004, 04:11 AM

Several people have already tried G1 on the T5. It will crash.

seascape

11-20-2004, 05:27 AM

Margi Presenter-To-Go not yet revised for T5?

On
http://kb.palmone.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/,/?St=561,E=0000000000088016941,K=1699,Sxi=5,useTemplate=Case.tem,CASE=15384
"SD expansion cards that are incompatible with the Tungsten T5 handheld ... The following Palm- or palmOne-branded SD cards are not compatible with the Tungsten T5 handheld: ... Some Margi expansion cards (contact Margi for the latest information)."

I emailed Margi to find out if my T2 PTG card will work.

ratz1

11-23-2004, 04:03 PM

I believe I have possibly pinpointed the source of Tealscript inconsistent crashing on the T5 platform. (On various forums there seems to be a 50/50 split on those having problems and those not having problems)

If preferences are set to:
1) globally enabled
2) write anywhere completely off (all settings)
3) "Disable system auto-shift" preference checked
4) Multi Stroke unchecked
5) alternate strokes checked
6) easy caps off

Then you'll get frequent crashes when entering text via the DIA.

The crashes stop if youI uncheck "Disable system auto-shift" preferences.

The crash are either: None Message "fatal exceptions" -or- Emul68kMain.c Line:403 illegal instruction 000c at address 008c482c.

ratz1

11-23-2004, 04:06 PM

Pocket Mirror XT seems to work ok with one exception....

If used with something like autosync or aftersync; you may find the legacy PIMs appear empty after the sync. This appears to be a problem with autosync and aftersync launching the apps before the datamangler patch can replicate the changes to the legacy pims.

I haven't tested the Palm Conduits to see if they have a similar issue.

Using the Older Pocket Mirror Pro sync correctly and side steps this problem.

ratz1

11-23-2004, 04:07 PM

Digglebug v.2.90.b.4 working for several days with no issues. Older version had been crashing.

The Palmster

11-27-2004, 03:47 PM

Here is an exchange which I thought should be reproduced under this thread as it deals with compatibility issues.

For some reason, now that I have my T5 working great (or so I thought), I am getting a Fatal Alert after the "Cleaning Up" screen following a HotSync. Note that the HotSync on the Desktop completes fine without any errors!

The error message is consistently the following:

"Emul68KMain.c, Line:403, illegal instruction 7320 at address 00720696"

Any ideas on what to do here? Am I struck doing a hard reset and possibly having to re-load all 3rd party software?

Any other ideas would be very helpful.

I had the same problem on my T5. Thought I had everything working smooth and then boom! The same Fatal Alert AFTER Hot Sync. Right after the "cleaning up". After much trial and error, I think this has solved the problem. When I bought my T5 I bought the keyboard also. I also purchased ClipPro quite some time back. What solved my problem is disabling anything that might be running on my T5 during a hot sync. I disabled the Keyboard driver and also disabled ClipPro. I then did another hot sync and everything seems fine again. I would recommend that you disable anything that might be "enabled" during a hot sync. This seems to give the T5 a fit. Anyway it seems to be working for now. The T5 seems to have a lot of little quirks. You have to get used to them and try to work around them. I have found that alot of the software they say "works" really doesn't. It will install fine, but once you actually use the program you start to have problems. I hope this helps you, let me know if it works. Thanks, Cindy.

Pippadi, you were soooooo right. Problem was, however, two-fold. First ClipPro 2.0 does create a problem during the HotSync on the T5. Something to do with the "delete" feature, I think but not sure.

In addition, though, what got everything started was that I deleted a contact entry on the desktop. I have Contacts 5 v. 5.34 running on my T5. Seems that there is a problem with deleting contact entries. The program seems to work fine on the T5 but then if you try to delete an entry, the T5 freezes up. The problem recurs when you try to HotSync after deleting an entry on the Desktop. Will stick to the built-in application for contacts for now until PDA Performance releases a new version.

Glad that is over..

chandra

11-28-2004, 10:24 AM

Receiveit 3.0 CAN't run on T5, it cause reset.....and after reset you can't go to palm application... To solve this problem, reset again & hold "up" button when logo palm appear until you go to palm prefs screen
the developer said that they are on working to solve the problem for T5

SoS

11-28-2004, 11:05 AM

why do you need receiveit on the T5 - the on-board flash presumably takes any file type!!

TapiV

11-28-2004, 01:20 PM

I accidentically pushed the 5-way button to the right when using Calc, and what happened?
There is several different built-in calculators like Math, Finance, etc.
Wow!

The Palmster

11-28-2004, 05:11 PM

I accidentically pushed the 5-way button to the right when using Calc, and what happened?
There is several different built-in calculators like Math, Finance, etc.
Wow!

Ok, is that the best kept secret of the T5 to-date or what! That calculator looks just like the old Parens one which got discontinued when PowerOne bought the software developer out of the market. In fact, I think they may have hired him!

Why is this not publicised anywhere?

chandra

11-28-2004, 07:26 PM

why do you need receiveit on the T5 - the on-board flash presumably takes any file type!!
Yes, the on-board flash presumably takes any file type if you put the file from PC. But if you received files from BT or Irda from handheld or cellular phone it still say "data received Unknown format".

seascape

11-29-2004, 06:06 AM

I accidentically pushed the 5-way button to the right when using Calc, and what happened?
There is several different built-in calculators like Math, Finance, etc.
Wow!THAT is really interesting!! Even has nautical miles, trig, etc: so I can solve celestial navigation problems with the built-in calculator! Not programmable, but very, very useful all the same.

Yupito

11-29-2004, 11:34 PM

Lance,
The SMS Bug is now apparently resolved with the release of the new phonelink update. I am now able to retrieve SMS messages.

Lance

12-02-2004, 01:21 AM

I have updated the list, again. I will be able to update the list one more time Thursday night, and maybe one more time Friday. Then, I will be unable to update the list again until Monday, December 13th. I will send out another reminder within the next few days.

As always, I appreciate everyone's input.

Take care,
Lance

Lance

12-02-2004, 10:46 AM

jma

12-02-2004, 11:34 AM

I previously use XTND Connect PC 5.1 to sync lotus notes 5.0 calendar and contact with a Tungsten C, but with the T5 it does'nt work (same issue as Lotus easy sync.

so you can update XTND Connect PC 5.1 to NEED :mad: http://resolution.extendedsystems.com/esi/products/mobile+data+management+products/pc-based+synchronization/default.htm
Extendedsystem supprt told me that their ie no software update planed for T5

I ask intellisync support to know if Intellysync 5.3.2 was OK with T5.they told me YES, I dowload the software and the first test for calendar and contact are OK

So you can Update Intellisync 5.3.2 to MEDIUM :)

best regards
Jean Michel

palmato

12-02-2004, 04:14 PM

I had a chance to quickly test Dokusha 1.5 at a retail store. Testing has not been thorough due to time constraints, but still I could verify most of its functionality.

I would say it works fine, a lot faster than on a T|T as expected. Translation from English to Japanese is not instantaneous yet, but a lot more usable. This test is interesting because Dokusha has 5 700K databases to browse and the flash memory architecture doesn't seem to cause any major hiccup. No crash either.

Only problem I've noticed. The application buttons cannot be used as shortcuts to some functionalities anymore. They just invoke the assigned program and cause Dokusha to exit. Some games may have the same problem.
Have no idea whether there's a workaround in the device settings.

The developer website does still exist, it just depends on geocity to work ...

BTW as a side note, installing applications from the SD card (by FileZ) works smoothly, in case anyone wants to try his favorite application in the nearest shop :D

seascape

12-02-2004, 05:08 PM

RxCalc works now. The developer got it going on T5. v. 4.02b Medium. 480x320.

seascape

12-02-2004, 05:15 PM

PEPID: It works, with two main provisos:

1. Installation on the T5 is a problem, but PEPID tech support is very helpful and will get a T5 owner running.

2. Always start PEPID after re-expanding the Virtual Graffiti area on the T5, otherwise the display will munge when scrolling pages, and the PEPID icon taskbar will disapper. PEPID is working hard on getting PEPID configured properly for the T5.

Lance

12-03-2004, 03:27 PM

List has been updated. :)

Important Note: I doubt I will have another opportunity to update the list before Monday, December 13, 2004.

Thanks,
Lance

VoltZ (Unreg)

12-03-2004, 04:19 PM

http://www.mobimate.com/ioumate/index.shtml

It Doesn't work. When I exit from the application I have to reset my T5 cause an error

"Fatal Errorr, MemoryMgr.c, Line:3846 Invalid chunk ptr"

sob!!!! :(

ydjk58

12-03-2004, 05:15 PM

Try SimCity v1.7 It works on the TH55, and my NZ90, so in theory it might work with the T5, go to www.sonyclie.org and download for yourself.

Chukar

12-03-2004, 07:03 PM

I'm having problems getting Agendus 9 (the release version) to open full screen and exit properly. Anyone else having problems.

The WB

12-04-2004, 01:12 PM

I found Fatal Errors on PrMetal v.2.0. I wrote the developer, J de Wit, about this problem.

I just received release 2.1, recompiled this AM. This version is stable and runs directly off the T5 expansion card, storing inputed data there. I recommend this one with a medium stability. I was able to do multiple reads and writes with no instabilities. I recommend v. 2.1, not v.2.0

simonleung

12-05-2004, 11:50 PM

I modified the list to include the date that the software title has been updated on the list. In addition, you can view the list by alphabetical order or by the date updated.

PalmOne Tungsten T5 Software Compatibility List (http://www.palmfocus.com/tt5software.asp)

I hope this helps.

Best regards,
Lance

I do not got problem with HappyDays 2.33 with my TT5! Reminders can successfully be deleted or created in the calendar!
It works fine but it takes long to exit!

But the new released BackupMan v1.52b5 still got problem. It can restore files but cannot create backups!

simonleung

12-05-2004, 11:54 PM

Digglebug v.2.90.b.4 working for several days with no issues. Older version had been crashing.

I cannot insert "Text" ! Other functions work fine!

simonleung

12-06-2004, 12:02 AM

ShadowPlan 4.0.1 does not work for me. Can you try this? Create an item and link it to the ToDo database from Shadow. Now delete the item in Shadow. My handheld locks up, requiring a soft reset. Does yours behave differently?

I've got a similiar problem! My device sometimes freezes when making link to ToDO, if luckily success, there will be a noticeable delay.

marxo

12-11-2004, 04:09 PM

I have docs to go premium but the sys crash when I try to make a chart. this happens in sheet to go and excel both. could you help me? thanks.
sorry for my english.
bye

Lance

12-13-2004, 02:44 PM

I have returned from vacation, and I have updated the list from the e-mails received and the posts since December 4th.

Thanks,
Lance

PontiacVenom

12-13-2004, 07:34 PM

Agendus 9.0
Causes error on start:
(Sys 0505) (0, 841)

Ms. PacMan works great.
AvantGo Beta version works great.

Chukar

12-13-2004, 09:01 PM

Agendus 9.0
Causes error on start:
(Sys 0505) (0, 841)
It works fine for me. What build are you using?

PontiacVenom

12-14-2004, 01:37 AM

It works fine for me. What build are you using?

Sorry about that..
Left out some info.. The SMS gives me that error whenever I attempt use it..

Also, my memo pad doesn't seem to function properly either..

The Palmster

12-14-2004, 07:48 AM

I am using TealScript v. 3.52 on the T5 and am loving it. Feels just like Graffiti 1!

Here is my problem, however. If I select "Enable Globally" then I always get a fatal error after a hotsync. Disengage "Enable Globally" and hotsync works fine. Kind of irritating to have to constantly toggle this option between hotsyncs.

Regarding the previous report of that TealScript does not function well when "System Auto-Shift" is checked, I did not notice any problems.

When using TealScript, though, I recommend that you fully disengage Write Anywhere as this seems to cause some problems in certain applications, i.e. W.A. turning itself on and off. For me, not a big deal as I never use this option anyways.

Chukar

12-14-2004, 11:38 AM

Sorry about that..
Left out some info.. The SMS gives me that error whenever I attempt use it..

Also, my memo pad doesn't seem to function properly either..
There is an update to the mail program that is supposed to fix some sms issues here:
http://support.iambic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12567

and an update to Agendus here:
http://support.iambic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12570

UnregUnreg93

12-14-2004, 03:14 PM

The following seem to work fine on the T5.
billiard 4.2 320x320
PocketLingo 2 320x320 (320x480 doesn't work)
SlovoEd dictionaries 4.13 320x320
Checkers 1.16 (StandAlone) 320x320
IconFix 1.01 seems to work for most names.
Invisible 1.4 320x320
Memo Leaf 3.3 320x480
Converter 2.2 320x320
Checklist 2.12 (Handmark) 320x320

bryus

12-16-2004, 01:22 PM

To update you, I found that BlueChat and BlueBoard from my T3 DO NOT work well on the T5. BlueBoard worked fairly well and BlueChat would not connect. In adition the BlueBoard caused the IR port on the T5 be disabled.

When hotsyncing to install these the Palm Desktop "quarantined" them in a folder "OS5 incompatible programs".

I guess this explains why they are not on the install disk that ships with the T5.

jessenajera

12-17-2004, 10:16 AM

I recieved a email from pda mill's tech support this morning informing me that all pda mill apps will work today or over the weekend! :D

TapiV

12-17-2004, 02:11 PM

No problems with BatteryGraph 1.21.

chandra

12-17-2004, 02:39 PM

Now Receiveit 3.1 (http://www.equattor.com) already support T5 :)

jessenajera

12-17-2004, 10:10 PM

Well Pdamill released beta's of all games today and I would say about only half of them work. :o

Lance

12-20-2004, 12:15 PM

Hello,

I have updated the list, again. I will wait on the PDAMill software titles. Again, thanks for all your input. Keep it coming! :)

Best regards,
Lance

TapiV

12-21-2004, 08:58 AM

To RED Light List: Titan Class Converter by ClassAction.

I tried to reinstall it but it crashes on T5.

Fei

12-21-2004, 05:32 PM

The following seem to work fine on the T5.
SlovoEd dictionaries 4.13 320x320

Are you sure? I get a lot of Emul68kMain.c crashes, especially launching it just after a HotSync. Also try the following: run SlovoED, now you can quit. Try to switch between Graffiti and Keyboard. I have to hide the area, switch, then unhide. Clicking on 'abc' in Graffiti doesn't work until a soft reset.

I mailed Paragon but no reply so far. My version is 4.14T unreg. I won't register it until it works...

I also have issues with TomeRaider 3. When in fullscreen mode, quitting to Applications causes "Window.c,Line:2104,can't change depth when draw state push", then reset. Damn, both dictionaries I want to use have issues :(

SoS

12-22-2004, 08:24 AM

ItsRST

12-22-2004, 10:31 AM

does anyone fancy trying this..I just read somewhere that backup uitlities may be failing because they try to backup a file called 'shim.log' that is left open by the OS. If this is excluded from the backup list (eg in tealbackup, backupbuddy) it may work....just a thought!!
I tried excluding 'shim.log' and still have the same issue. I tried using CardBackup and Tealbackup. I do see, however that PalmOne just put a new update out for their BackupPlus product. PalmOne Support Site (http://www.palmone.com/us/support/downloads/64mb_backup_other.html)

UnregUnreg92

12-22-2004, 12:06 PM

Are you sure? I get a lot of Emul68kMain.c crashes, especially launching it just after a HotSync. Also try the following: run SlovoED, now you can quit. Try to switch between Graffiti and Keyboard. I have to hide the area, switch, then unhide. Clicking on 'abc' in Graffiti doesn't work until a soft reset.

I mailed Paragon but no reply so far. My version is 4.14T unreg. I won't register it until it works...
(

I'm unable to recreate your Graffiti/Keyboard error. I'm able to switch between Graffiti/Keyboard in SlovoEd and after closing SlovoEd with no problems. Could you describe what you did? I'll try running SlovoEd after a Hotsync later to see if I can recreate that error.

The WB

12-23-2004, 03:15 PM

ChemTable v2.22

I installed the program on my SD card. Flipping between settings, color changes and accessing multiple records - no instabilities. It is in color.

Keyboard comes up - 320 X 320 only. This is on my T|T5

The Palmster

12-28-2004, 08:42 AM

Lance,

It has taken me a while to provide you with my experience on T5 software compatibility issues but here they are:

CardBkup v. 4.02 (beta) - Does not work. Causes Fatal Error during backup. I am in contact with JKWare and they are trying to solve the problem. I expect another beta version to be sent to me in due course. Don't understand why you have this program on your Green List.

Contacts 5 - This program is HIGHLY unstable on the T5. The developers at PDA Performance are well aware of the problem and they acknowledge that it is not compatible with the T5. They promise to release an update very soon based on their on-site forum. RED rating.

KeyLink v. 2.0.4 - Works Great! No issues to-date. MEDIUM Rating.

MobiPassword v. 2.01 - This is a beta version recently released to me by the developers. A fully compatible T5 version will be released shortly to registered users. Works great! MEDIUM RATING for now.

PowerOne Finance v. 1.2 - Works great. No problems whatsoever. HIGH RATING.

Slap v. 1.62 - Works pretty good. Only problem is when using the QuickLaunch function. QuickLaunch button must be hit twice to be used properly. The first time it is hit, the applications list appears for a second and then disappears. Hit the QuickLaunch button again and the list appears fine. MEDIUM rating.

TealBackup v. 1.07 - Does not work. Causes fatal error whenever I attempt to do a backup. RED rating.

TealScript v. 3.52 - This application is my favourite as it restores Graffiti 1. It works great on my T5 except that the "Globally Enabled" option should be disengaged prior to every hotsync to avoid a fatal error on clean-up. Not a big deal, however, if you forget as there are no other side effects other than having to perform a soft reset, i.e. hotsync still completes fine. Others have noted a problem and I can only suspect that this is because they have not disengaged the "WriteAnywhere" option on the T5. This is the only option that does not seem to work properly on the T5. I never ever use "WriteAnywhere" so this does not really bother me. I would rate this program a MEDIUM. I was very surprised to see it on Lance's RED list. I strongly disagree based on my own experience.

Woman v. 5.5 - Works great. Although my wife doesn't use it as much as she used to, we have not found any compatibility issues. MEDIUM rating.

GreatDates v. 1.11 - Works well except that when you delete an entry which was exported to the DateBook, you should make sure NOT to opt for deletion of the calendar entry through GreatDates. This auto-delete function does not work. Otherwise, works well. MEDIUM rating.

WordComplete v. 3.03 - Works great except that it should be disengaged when using Blazer as it may cause a fatal error at times. No problems when used with any other application. MEDIUM rating.

WordSleuth v. 1.0 - Works Great. HIGH rating.

All other programs which I have experienced are already on Lance's compatibility list and I have no further comments to add.

Hope this helps.

14adams

12-28-2004, 02:02 PM

Hello,

I've used the ePocrates software (Epocrates Essentials current version available at www.ePocrates.com) so far on the base Tungsten, the T3 and now lately a new T5. I find I am unable to use the ePocrates Essentials with the T5 and I have tried all the fixes provided me by either Palm or ePocrates. I would have to say that there is a NEED for ePocrates to make modifications to their software if it is to be compatible with the T5. This is interesting, as my new T5 was purchased as a bundle with a year's subscription to ePocrates (which extended my current subscription till 2006) from pdaMD.

I noticed immediately that the T5 had a hotsync delay while undergoing a network sync with the ePocrates server and experienced several fatal errors that were correctable with a soft reset. I tried uninstalling all non-essential "3rd party software" but the resets continued to be a problem. Then after a few days I simply got a reproducible "lost connection" error 6410 with ePocrates. I tried several "fixes." Connecting the USB cable directly to the motherboard, lowering the connection speed, disabling the media conduit (and the other conduits as well, in combination and in total with the exception of the ePocrates conduit), uninstalling and reinstalling ePocrates (I found that once installed and failed, the ePocrates program will no longer install without a 6410 error).

The only fix for me seems to be a complete uninstall of ePocrates from the PC. A hard reset. A reinstall of all my patient care programs to the PC and handheld and a reinstall of the palm desktop. This only fixes the problem for a few hotsyncs then the network hotsync for ePocrates becomes delayed....then fails.

I have contacted both palm and ePocrates and was told by the ePocrates support (finally got a conscientious guy named Jose) that a different T5 might well not reproduce the problem. But I'm not likely to junk this one and purchase another for $399 just to see. Be pleased to hear of a solution as ePocrates is a VERY useful program I've used daily in my surgical practice.

George Richardson MD
bonedoc@rtconnect.net

DavidP

12-29-2004, 01:22 AM

The Palmster

12-29-2004, 08:30 AM

Lance,

CardBkup v. 4.02 (beta) - Does not work. Causes Fatal Error during backup. I am in contact with JKWare and they are trying to solve the problem. I expect another beta version to be sent to me in due course. Don't understand why you have this program on your Green List.

Oops. v. 2.2R1(beta) is the version I am currently using.

Not sure where you got v4.02, but I just downloaded Card Backup (http://www.jkware.com/CardBackup.php) v2.1a and it works great on my T5... no errors. It's nice to be able to have backups again. I'm using the shareware version, and if it continues to work well, I'm going to register it.

david..

How many applications are you running? Do you consider yourself a power user? I'm starting to wonder why some people are not having backup problems and others are. I know there is a problem with CardBackup because I am in regular contact with the developer and he is working on a fix for something. Maybe there are certain programs which cause the backup to crash...I don't know but I'll try the shareware version for now and see what happens.

14adams

12-30-2004, 05:08 PM

DateDiff 3.1 a freeware 21k program for Palm OS available at http://www.freewarepalm.com/clock/datediff.shtml is compatible. Have used it for a week now without a hitch. I'd say Medium/High. Let you know if it crashes. Handy little program that gives the difference between two dates in Years/mos/weeks/days and saves a list of frequently calculated intervals. I've used it for a long time on my T and T3.

G. Richardson

DavidP

12-31-2004, 01:27 AM

Oops. v. 2.2R1(beta) is the version I am currently using.

How many applications are you running? Do you consider yourself a power user? I'm starting to wonder why some people are not having backup problems and others are. I know there is a problem with CardBackup because I am in regular contact with the developer and he is working on a fix for something. Maybe there are certain programs which cause the backup to crash...I don't know but I'll try the shareware version for now and see what happens.

Not sure if I'm considered a power user, but I do use my Palm extensively for my calendaring and meetings (which I also do my my lesson planning on), contacts, memos and particularly tasks where I have 10 plus categories for timelines and project management. I use my Palm daily for for reading journals, books and publications, and I have my entire 300+ enterprise network, hardware information and inventory on spreadsheets. I use the Palm and wireless keyboard as the main input device for my Masters Program instead of lugging around my laptop. With the T5, I find it awesome with the larger screen in landscape, large memory capacity (1GB Lexar 32X SD card), and USB host mode. With this and bluetooth, I can move files around with great ease, and print to IR printers with PrintBoy.

In addition to the standard Palm software, I use Datebook5, Docstogo7 premium with Smartlist (I haven't installed the contacts portion yet), Palm wireless keyboard, Passwords Plus, WiFile (for bluetooth file transfers from my home and work networks), Filepoint (don't like it as much as WiFile), Zlauncher, Acrobat reader, eReader, Repligo, PrintBoy, McFile and Cardbackup. I have tried other software, but removed the ones I didn't care for.

In this environment, Cardbackup appears to be working fine. What I'm doing is backing up my Palm's memory to the SD card, then copying my internal drive and SD card (with backed up Palm) to my PC. Would I be able to do a full restore with this backup procedure, or do I have to use software to also backup the internal drive and SD Card? I'm doing this because I do install some apps to the internal drive and SD card to save useable memory in the Palm. I came from an M500 via IIIX and IIIe, so I still have memory phobia, working with MSMount, from those older systems. This seems to work as I tried a number of other backup programs, that are supposed to work with the T5, but just crashed my unit.

Hope this helps.

david..

The Palmster

12-31-2004, 07:55 AM

Would I be able to do a full restore with this backup procedure, or do I have to use software to also backup the internal drive and SD Card?

As I understand it, the internal drive can be backed up to the PC through the PalmOne File Transfer Manager. This is your back-up for the internal drive. The CardBackup software will provide you with a full restore of the ROM memory only. Together, they should provide you with the protection you require.

As to whether or not you are a power user, you definitely have a number of applications on your system. I think you should consider yourself lucky that the CardBackup program is working for you. I would, however, recommend that you upgrade to the full registered version as the ability to perform a "Partial Restore" is critical to retrieving very specific data which may have been lost by some means or another.

I, too, upgraded from the M5x series. I HATE, and I mean HATE, Graffiti 2. If you are like me, you may wish to consider TealSript. A little pricey but try it out for a month and I think you will find that it is well worth it. There is nothing, in my opinion, that compares to Graffiti 1 and TealScript gives you the ability to return to Graffiti 1.

14adams

12-31-2004, 05:31 PM

It's been 3 weeks and 5 reinstalls now and I am still unable to get ePocrates Essentials www.epocrates.com to work consistantly on my T5. I reported this in an earlier post. I'm afraid it is going to be a no go unless something is rewritten by either Palm or ePocrates for the T5. I have not heard back from ePocrates support since my last discussion with their support person who admitted I had tried every trick of which he was aware. Does anyone here use Lexi-Drugs from www.lexi.com. I understand it has an update function.

AvantGo V4.0.1 installed but had consistant errors and there was a warning on the website www.avantgo.com indicating it was not compatible. The problem was disturbingly similar to that I experience with ePocrates. I see there is a new updated Version 5 on the website and will give it a try.

Adobe Reader for Palm OS Version 3.05 www.adobe.com Medium. There are occasional resets opening the program.

DateDiff 3.1 http://www.freewarepalm.com/clock/datediff.shtml Medium used about one week now still no resets/errors. I see it has been included in the compatibility list.

Otherwise the apps on my Palm are all consistantly stable and I have been using them on my T5 daily since early December. They are:

BTPrint Professional Version 1.5 http://www.iscomplete.org Medium

Documents To Go Premium Edition English Version 7.003 Medium

Dose A Day www.dataviz.com Version 1.002 Medium

HanDBase Professional www.ddhsoftware.com Version3.0k build 4 Medium

MemoPLUS Version 4.18 www.handshigh.com Medium

ToDo Plus Version 3.61 www.handshigh.com Medium

iSilo Version 4.15 www.isilo.com High and I am using many compatible iSilo reader databases including: Clinical Orthopaedics 2005, Clinical Rheumatology & Pain 2005, Trauma & Toxicology 2005, the MeisterMed Lytemeister freeware, ICDMeister 2005, & CPTMeister 2004 Version 2 and many other iSilo compatible files all without any problems.

SplashPhoto 4.21 www.splashdata.com Medium

TealDoc Version 6.61 www.tealpoint.com Medium

TealPhone Version 4.15 www.tealpoint.com Medium

TealLock Version 5.30 www.tealpoint.com Medium. TealLock uses TealPaint .pdb databases for it's screens but they can be created on the Windows desktop and then work fine on the handheld. TealPaint itself was not reliable as someone else has already pointed out.

TealMover Version 1.30 www.tealpoint.com Medium

WordComplete Version 3.02 www.cic.com Medium

Jot Version 2.01 www.cic.com Medium

eReader Professional Version 2.5.3 from http://www.palmdigitalmedia.com Medium

DateBk5 Version 5.4a from http://www.pimlicosoftware.com Medium

George Richardson MD
bonedoc@rtconnect.net

14adams

01-01-2005, 03:48 PM

Oh well. Although it's true it says on the website www.avantgo.com that the new version 5.7 build 35 will work swimmingly on my T5 I have tried to install it twice now and get:

1. Frequent resets during hotsync (6410 errors)
2. Either a reset trying to open the program (or) I am asked to enter my hotsync password and hotsync, followed by a 6410, followed by another request for a password.

Below is an excerpt from my hotsync log:

HotSync operation started for George Richardson on 01/01/05 13:20:56

OK Expense
OK Quick Install
OK SplashPhoto
OK AvantGo Connect
OK Note Pad
HotSync Error: Connection is lost (6410)

HotSync operation completed on 01/01/05 13:22:29

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
HotSync operation started for George Richardson on 01/01/05 13:18:15

- Installed file: C:\Program Files\palmOne\RicharG\Install\avantgo.prc
- Installed file: C:\Program Files\palmOne\RicharG\Install\libsmal.prc
- Installed file: C:\Program Files\palmOne\RicharG\Install\MobileLink.prc
OK Install
OK Expense
OK Quick Install
OK SplashPhoto
OK Note Pad
OK Media
VersaMail - Sync configured to Do Nothing
Documents To Go - sync configured to Do Nothing.
0 HanDBase databases synchronized (v3.0j3) 01/01/05 13:18:39
OK Calendar
OK Contacts
OK Tasks
OK Memos
OK Dose-A-Day Close To Home
-- Backing up Saved Preferences to C:\Program Files\palmOne\RicharG\Backup\Saved_Preferences.PRC
OK Backup

HotSync operation completed on 01/01/05 13:18:

---------------------------------

Very similar to what happens to me with ePocrates. These are useful programs. Wish I had a clue.

G. Richardson MD
bonedoc@rtconnect.net

Lance

01-02-2005, 01:24 AM

Updated list... :)

Happy New Year!

Best regards,
Lance

seascape

01-02-2005, 05:36 AM

As I understand it, the internal drive can be backed up to the PC through the PalmOne File Transfer Manager. This is your back-up for the internal drive.I can confirm this. I had my first Fatal Alert total T5 lockup the other day. I was unable to get the T5 to do anything after a reset: any tap caused the FA screen. But I was able to get into INTERNAL through palmOne File Transfer and copy everything stored in INTERNAL to my PC's hard drive. Then when I did the hard reset, which wiped out the T5's memory (including INTERNAL), I was able to restore everything to INTERNAL manually using pFT again. HotSync automatically restored everything else.

I have since copied everything on INTERNAL to my external SD card too, so that I can restore INTERNAL from the external card, if I encounter a hard reset on the road while away from my desktop or laptop. However I have not figured out how to do a complete manual backup of "RAM" to the external card, and of course I would not be able to get up and running again after a hard reset in that situation until I do.

JOhan

01-04-2005, 07:33 AM

I have copied the backup folder found in the Palmone (or Palm) folder from my computer to SDcard. Also copied all the PIM databases. I hope I will be able to restore them if I get a hard reset on travel. Haven't put theory into practise yet.

Other way is to use Tealbackup. I managed to back up the RAm to SDcard but I have to do it in blocks i.e. small group of files at a time. This is to avoid the crash that will occur if too much data is copied at one go. Have not tested whether a crash will occur with a full restore.

14adams

01-04-2005, 02:27 PM

Hello,

ABGPro Version 2.2 from http://www.stacworks.com/ has worked well on my T5 now for over a week without any errors. It will also transfer to internal memory. Helpful app for those who see arterial blood gas results frequently. Guess it should rate a Medium.

Davis Drug Guide Version 2.1 Build 2.30.34 from http://www.unboundmedicine.com/ also runs without errors and the database runs from the SD card (nice). This program updates itself without a 6410 error. Rate a Medium

Lexi-Infectious Diseases for Palm OS uses the Lexi-Comp Reader Version 2.2.0441008 and updates without errors. It is from https://www.lexi.com. The database .pdb stores in internal memory and the program continues to run now for a week with no problems. I'd rate it a Medium.

Any other apps I have reported as running well on my particular T5 are still going strong.

I just got off the phone with the support person at Palmone. I was asking him about the 6410 errors which plague me if I try to use ePocrates and AvantGo (discussed in my prior posts). He tells me that the 6410 errors are a Microsoft issue (now that's a new one). This may be true. Perhaps all the world's problems are Microsoft related :rolleyes: and he informs me that both ePocrates and AvantGo are incompatible apps that will simply cause crashes on my T5. He is not aware that Palm has given any indication that these are issues for them. AvantGo still as of yesterday was touting compatibility with the T5 but backup requires using file transfer apparently. The ePocrates people don't acknowledge "incompatibility" either. Being the consumer I'd suppose it's going to be my problem and not Bill Gate's problem. :p

I can get most of the functionality of ePocrates from the lexi infectious disease data and the Davis Drug Guide. None of the other people viewing this forum must be using the program as no one else has commented and it's not listed as being either red or green, or worth testing for that matter.

G. Richardson MD
bonedoc@rtconnect.net

palmdoc88

01-05-2005, 06:36 PM

Noviiremote (2.2, 2.5) does not work on my T5

14adams

01-05-2005, 10:35 PM

The most recent update for Crash. Version 2.13 from http://www.79bmedia.com/ is working well. Two weeks now and my T5 resets frequently. Handy program on what I would call a fairly unreliable piece of hardware. I'd have to rate it Medium.

G. Richardson MD
bonedoc@rtconnect.net

14adams

01-06-2005, 03:26 PM

Please reference my above posts. I have been unable to get ePocrates to work syncing with WindowsXP. I got a call from PDA Verticles today in Redmond, WA. Apparently the ePocrates people called them and convinced them they should replace my T5 as they say it should work with ePocrates Essentials.

We shall see...... :cool:

G. Richardson MD
bonedoc@rtconnect.net

StoneRyno

01-07-2005, 02:10 AM

palmdoc88

01-08-2005, 07:46 PM

Okey
http://www.freewarepalm.com/utilities/okey.shtml
does NOT work

druss

01-11-2005, 06:08 PM

the screen savers riverland and the tribe have some problems which I hope gets fixed one of my favorite programs while working, both have to have resets, riverland when it gets to night time reset and tribe the people that come into the middle disappears,

palmdoc88

01-13-2005, 08:14 AM

Plucker 1.8 is listed as Medium but I have had crashes when rendering lots of inline graphics like the Daily Comics from Mobileread. Anyone else?

palmdoc88

01-14-2005, 07:06 AM

Pathaway navigation software (www.pathaway.com) works and no crashes so far. Medium.

Palmt5

01-15-2005, 05:00 PM

I've just installed these programs, hence the lower confidence levels which may go up over time.

Mobipocket 4.8, build 413 www.mobipocket.com - Low-Medium (runs 320x480...nice!)

Mobipocket crash (softreset) on big documents (wikipedia on many pages)

StoneRyno

01-16-2005, 12:54 AM

TimeCopy 1.4
http://vons.free.fr/palm/
Low

This program is pretty basic. I installed it without error, performed a hotsync so that it could run its course to copy the time from my pc, and then proceeded to run the app on my T5 to make sure that part would work. All seems to be in working order. The stats were presented to me as expected on the screen. I assume with a few other users testing it the confidence level can be bumped up. I'm pretty certain though that it should run fine for others.

Can someone test this one further. I suspect it as the cause of errors after every hotsync. I did a hard reset on my device and left it off this time and didn't get any errors needing a softreset after each hotsync like before.

SuperSaiyan

01-16-2005, 04:23 AM

Can someone test this one further. I suspect it as the cause of errors after every hotsync. I did a hard reset on my device and left it off this time and didn't get any errors needing a softreset after each hotsync like before.
It's really hard to track crap apps after a hard reset because it removes all the junk files left from other potential unfriendly apps. I finally decided to install Uninstall Manager 2.62 after my 3rd hard reset to monitor (all) the files associated with the apps I install - and in some cases, uninstall. Many T5 hostile app leave behind junk files even when they are deleted, which I've found to be the cause of some of my hotsync and clean up crashes. Now when I remove a buggy app, I'm sure that it's ALL gone and my T5 is fatal error/reset free again.

StoneRyno

01-16-2005, 04:58 AM

It's really hard to track crap apps after a hard reset because it removes all the junk files left from other potential unfriendly apps. I finally decided to install Uninstall Manager 2.62 after my 3rd hard reset to monitor (all) the files associated with the apps I install - and in some cases, uninstall. Many T5 hostile app leave behind junk files even when they are deleted, which I've found to be the cause of some of my hotsync and clean up crashes. Now when I remove a buggy app, I'm sure that it's ALL gone and my T5 is fatal error/reset free again.

Uninstall manager was the 1st app I installed both times. I used it on my T E also. A wonderful app. When I 1st installed Time copy it seemed to work fine so I don't know for certain it is the cause because some file(s) could have been damaged from a couple of fatal errors generated by the apps that came with the T5. The reason I suspected it as causing problems is based on the reasons I list the errors requiring soft resets and the fact that leaving it off the device after the hard reset and installing everything else there were no errors at all. I just don't want to chance anything again since it was a pain reinstalling everything. I am hoping there is someone out there that might be in a possision to test it further that may be starting out or restarting out installing stuff. I figure if TimeCopy is causing the errors then if someone were to install it 1st and then got errors every hotsync when installing other stuff then it is likely TimeCopy causing it and not just my particular situation.

hpf

01-18-2005, 05:55 AM

Mobipocket crash (softreset) on big documents (wikipedia on many pages)
There must be something wrong with the wikipedia eBook. The Reader works well on my PDAs.
Did you try to open the same eBook with Mobipocket Reader on your PC?

StoneRyno

01-19-2005, 03:14 PM

I seen backupman 1.45 listed as medium. Any chance we can get a link or something to get that version? I'd like to try it out. I need to backup my T5 before I send it back to exchange for a non-marred screen.

Of course if there is an alternative way to make sure everything is back on the new one so that its as if I never had exchanged that will be fine too.

14adams

01-19-2005, 07:17 PM

Hello All,

Some of you have followed my notes concerning problems with ePocrates and aVantgo on my T5.

It has been two weeks without my Palm and without ePocrates (I used it almost daily in my surgical practice) but I finally got my new T5 from PDA Verticles (pdaMD) today. Epocrates setup went well without any abnormal resets and I was able to install ePocrates Essentials without resets or hotsync errors. This was not the case with the prior T5 and I am hoping that there will be no problem. I experienced errors and resets with it so frequently it was really a pain to use. Apparently Palm occasionally poops out a lemon.

I certainly do appreciate all of the help I got from the folks at ePocrates. I will update my notes on various bulletin boards if the installation remains stable for at least a week. I will also install and update my comments on other software including aVantgo on this site.

I am not sure about this, but I have an idea that PDA Verticles would not have replaced my T5 without the intervention of ePocrates support. Their return policy states that they will only take back devices in the unopened box. They only contacted me after intervention by the ePocrates staff. I therefore would have concern about purchasing devices from them in the future. I would especially like to compliment Mr. Jose Frias at ePocrates support for his concern and his assistance in this matter. :)

Incidently, kudos to our forum administrator. This is a very helpful site for those of us who struggle to keep up with our hardware.

George Richardson MD FACS

14adams

01-26-2005, 08:57 PM

Bummer, my problems with 6410 errors and crashes reoccurred on the new T5.

The HanDBase support people suggested I try a "warm reset" and it seems to have worked. Certainly the best result from any one thing I've tried with this monster. If you are getting frequent resets and hotsync errors try the following:

Warm Reset - Key to Troubleshooting your Palm
Let's face it, bad things can happen to your Palm. Maybe you installed a beta program that crashes every time you use it. Or, you tried syncing your old data to a new device. Before giving up hope and doing a hard reset, learn how to do a warm reset.

One item I've noticed from watching Palm users is they believe there are only two ways to reset their device. The first is to do a soft reset and the second is to do a hard reset. Often, your problems are fixed doing the soft reset. But, there is another type of reset that can be done — a warm reset.

A warm reset is similar to rebooting your PC in safe mode. In the case of Palm, various hacks, patches, alarms and so on are not loaded. As with other resets, you'll see the splash screen and preferences screen. The advantage a warm reset offers is data retention. You can also further troubleshoot the device.

When troubleshooting a problem, the best action is to always start with a soft reset. If the soft reset doesn't work, it can mean an application is misbehaving. Often times, it is a program you recently installed or a program that's become corrupted. Another scenario might be if you are syncing your old programs to a new device. This is especially true if you're changing from one Palm OS manufacturer to another or if communication programs are involved.

Once you've done a warm reset, you can start finding the problem application so you can remove it. Sometimes, identifying the problem is easy as the device always crashes when you access the same program. Other times, it's more difficult and you might want to try a tool such as ResetEMU to find the offending program.

To perform a warm reset,

1. Press and hold the Page Up button on your handheld.

2. Using the reset tip tool (paper clip, earring post etc), gently press the reset button inside the hole on the back panel of your handheld.

3. When the Palm Computing Platform logo appears on the screen, release the Page Up button.

http://www.timeatlas.com/mos/PDAs/Palm_OS/Warm_Reset_-_Key_to_Troubleshooting_your_Palm/

After one warm reset I was able to hotsync but had resets opening ePocrates and HanDbase. Also it apparently uninstalled my Bluetooth software but this corrected itself on the next couple of hotsyncs. Several more syncs without problems. I will keep my fingers crossed.

G. Richardson MD