View Full Version : ZLauncher Beta 2.30B2 is out
bobbd
03-14-2003, 08:05 AM
I received ZLauncher 230B2 last night. A coupl of new features that I noticed in a few minutes of playing:
- the File Manager now lets you Deselect a group
- Under Category setup, there's an option to Clear orphaned records.
Bob
sebring
03-14-2003, 08:19 AM
It may be my imagination, but File Manager seems much quicker in this beta, not that it was slow before. Also fixed the fatal exception when selecting info, in File Manager, for a file on MS and MS tab hidden.
Possibility of a link???:)
KCoram
03-14-2003, 10:41 AM
Does the file manager allow you to rename a file? I couldn't figure out how to do so with beta1 ...
Enceladus
03-14-2003, 11:08 AM
Link please. :o
*YellowRose*
03-14-2003, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by bobbd
- Under Category setup, there's an option to Clear orphaned records.
Bob That's a pretty neat addition . . . pretty soon nobody will need any app but ZL...it will be it's own very customizable, beautiful operating system.
;)
*YellowRose*
03-14-2003, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Enceladus
Link please. :o PLEASE!!?!?!?!
boomer
03-14-2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by *YellowRose*
That's a pretty neat addition . . . pretty soon nobody will need any app but ZL...it will be it's own very customizable, beautiful operating system.
;)
Maybe they can add in an address book replacemant as well with the next beta :p ;) :rolleyes:
rldunn
03-14-2003, 11:36 AM
I don't think there is a link; I think it's just being sent out to those who reported problems with the last beta to see if it fixes their issue, but I could be wrong.
One other thing that it fixes is the problem that I reported on the NX, where if you moved an app to the MS using T&H, Move To ..., then it froze up the launcher. This is now fixed.
bobbd
03-14-2003, 12:05 PM
The new version has not been posted yet. Last time it was posted to their download section if you knew the file name. Try http://www.zztechs.com/download/ZL230b2.zip . It's not there now but may be soon. I will ask if they mind if we post to ClieSource.
At the same time I'll ask for the ability to Rename files.
Bob
rhart00
03-14-2003, 01:02 PM
i got it from the zlauncher yahoo forum. hold on and I will get a link to the forum
rhart00
03-14-2003, 01:03 PM
link (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zlauncher?yguid=138570091)
Enceladus
03-14-2003, 01:18 PM
Thank you.:)
cbulock
03-14-2003, 01:31 PM
So, is that clear orphaned records a fix for the ZLauncherDB file growing really large?
bobbd
03-14-2003, 01:35 PM
I'm not sure because my DB is fairly small. I ran it and it shrunk by 2K. Hopefully rtimmel or rhart00 will try it and let us know.
Bob
rldunn
03-14-2003, 01:44 PM
Mine went from 319K to 311K :)
rhart00
03-14-2003, 01:45 PM
ZLDB = 722k. didn't do anything I guess. need to get around to emailing zztechs about it I guess
rhart00
03-14-2003, 01:47 PM
Anybody else have a problem this new beta and uninstall manager (running in background). Uninstall Manager worked fine until I installed this new beta. Now every time I try to delete a file, my NX freezes and I have to do a pin soft reset.
cbulock
03-14-2003, 01:49 PM
I don't use uninstall manager, but you should send an e-mail to ZZTechs. This beta fixes a couple of different bugs that I sent to them this week.
rtimmel
03-14-2003, 02:14 PM
I tried it, but it did not do a whole lot. My DB went from 238.8K to 227.4K, about 4%. I'm guessing the size may have something to do with the number of programs I keep on my card. When I get a little time, I will delete the database and re-scan and re-classify everything to see how much of the database deals with existing programs and how much was from orphans.
sebring
03-14-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by KCoram
Does the file manager allow you to rename a file? I couldn't figure out how to do so with beta1 ...
You can change the name in the info screen to whatever you want, then select save. If the file is on MS, the new name won't appear until you refresh apps.
bobbd
03-14-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by sebring
You can change the name in the info screen to whatever you want, then select save. If the file is on MS, the new name won't appear until you refresh apps.
I hate it when that happens:( I obviously tried to rename a file that was in use and foolishly concluded that I couldn't rename. Duuh. Way cool product.
Bob
zeke87
03-14-2003, 03:15 PM
Hello all.
It would be handy if ZZtechs added a shortcut that could be launched through apps like mcphling or easylaunch and the main launcher that could bring us to the ZL file manager (makes my purchase of PiMover pointless :).
Say I'm in two programs, I like to switch between an app, and the file manager quickly. Without a launchable shortcut, that wouldn't be possible.
Z
KCoram
03-14-2003, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by sebring
You can change the name in the info screen to whatever you want, then select save. If the file is on MS, the new name won't appear until you refresh apps.
D'oh! I should have been able to figure that out. Thanks for the clue.
squeff
03-14-2003, 03:47 PM
On the rename question. I think you can rename only apps (via Info either in the File Manager or the launcher itself), not databases. Try selecting a database (not in use) in the file manager, click "Info" and notice that the underline (which indicates that the title is editable) isn't there. Or am I wrong?
squeff
03-14-2003, 04:21 PM
Another new feature is "Fast Scroll."
Try this... Go to a tab with more than one screen's worth of icons (e.g. "All"). Drag the scroll bar. Notice how it redraws as you drag. Now turn "Fast Scroll" on (Display Prefs). Now, when you drag the scroll bar, nothing happens until you "let go."
sebring
03-14-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by KCoram
D'oh! I should have been able to figure that out. Thanks for the clue.
Actually, the name change doesn't seem permanent. I guess there really isn't a good way to rename files.
Originally posted by rhart00
link (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zlauncher?yguid=138570091) Thanks:)
Originally posted by rhart00
Anybody else have a problem this new beta and uninstall manager (running in background). Uninstall Manager worked fine until I installed this new beta. Now every time I try to delete a file, my NX freezes and I have to do a pin soft reset. I'll have to see as I use UM too. I also run into a reset error every time I try to install a new ZL file. Upon the second hotsync everything goes ok, it is just the initial hotsync that produces a reset.:confused:
Originally posted by squeff
Another new feature is "Fast Scroll."
Try this... Go to a tab with more than one screen's worth of icons (e.g. "All"). Drag the scroll bar. Notice how it redraws as you drag. Now turn "Fast Scroll" on (Display Prefs). Now, when you drag the scroll bar, nothing happens until you "let go."
Glad I looked a little harder here as I was trying to figure out what that did just now:)
Sideway
03-14-2003, 06:30 PM
Now I have something to play with over the weekend. :)
bobbd
03-14-2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by squeff
On the rename question. I think you can rename only apps (via Info either in the File Manager or the launcher itself), not databases. Try selecting a database (not in use) in the file manager, click "Info" and notice that the underline (which indicates that the title is editable) isn't there. Or am I wrong?
I suspect that any database that's owned by an app can't be renamed. Sort of a safety precaution and sort of makes sense. If the app is looking for a particular name, changing it messes things up nicely.
Bob
profvisor
03-14-2003, 10:22 PM
hmmmm... I'm not sure this one seems like something to jump right into. It looks (on the yahoo group) like there might be more glitches than improvements for now...
rldunn
03-14-2003, 10:30 PM
I'm using it and haven't had any problems on my NX. I also looked through the ZL forum and didn't notice anyone having problems with this version. It was b1 that had a few minor bugs.
sebring
03-15-2003, 07:42 AM
Apparently, ZLauncher's File Manager doesn't like for the MS tab to be hidden. All the errors I have experienced with either of these two betas, only occured if the MS tab was hidden. I get a "sys0502" error in this beta when I try to move a file from one MS directory to another MS directory, and the MS tab is hidden. If I unhide the MS tab, no problems.
PS: These two betas are as stable as most full release commercial software.
profvisor
03-15-2003, 08:56 AM
That's what I get for not reading more carefully.
Thanks
Originally posted by rhart00
Anybody else have a problem this new beta and uninstall manager (running in background). Uninstall Manager worked fine until I installed this new beta. Now every time I try to delete a file, my NX freezes and I have to do a pin soft reset.
Yep, same here. Have to turn off Uninstall Manager's monitoring to delete without a reset.:(
Originally posted by Tixx
Yep, same here. Have to turn off Uninstall Manager's monitoring to delete without a reset.:(
I just sent them an e-mail about this.
rhart00
03-15-2003, 06:05 PM
thanks tixx. glad to hear it isn't just me. I will send them an email also.
Anita
03-16-2003, 08:31 AM
Am thinking about sending ZZTechs a note about this but wanted to check with B2 users first to see if this has changed. . .I'm just using B1. . .
I'm growing sort of fond of those pop-up category tabs, been trying them out to see how I'd like them. . . .but I'd like to be able to change color on the text in the color settings tool so that text is readable in any theme. (Am using Copper Deck II right now, would be MUCH easier to read if text color was white, for example).
If category tab text color isn't customizable in B2 I'll go ahead and send in my piddling little request . . . or have I missed something? Tried all the color settings, nothing seemed to affect those.
TIA
Anita
sebring
03-16-2003, 08:49 AM
Not sure exactly what you mean by "pop-up category tabs", but if you are refering to the "Tab Panel", I don't believe there is a way to change the text color yet. I think you can get B2 at the Yahoo ZLauncher Group if you want to check it out yourself.
Anita
03-16-2003, 02:56 PM
I meant the tab panel, yes. Just couldn't remember the official name for it <g>.
Anita
horatio8
03-18-2003, 07:11 AM
Does the final version of 2.3 fix the conflict with Uninstall Manager? I would like to know before updating Zlauncher. Thanks.
horatio8
03-18-2003, 10:31 AM
Update - installed - no problems.
Originally posted by horatio8
Update - installed - no problems.
I'll reactivate my Uninstall Manager and give it a go then:)
Unregistered
03-18-2003, 05:08 PM
I am a beta tester. Is it better to have 2.30beta2 or the 2.30 that just came out?
rldunn
03-18-2003, 05:11 PM
Non-beta is usually more stable and newer is usually better, so 2.30 release version wins on both accounts.
bobbd
03-18-2003, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
I am a beta tester. Is it better to have 2.30beta2 or the 2.30 that just came out?
I expect that there were more bug fixes after B2. I asked about posting B2 and they suggested I wait for more bug fixes. Then the release came out. That's what I'm using.
Aside from that, if you do find a bug and you're using B2, the first question will be "Does it happen in the 2.30 released version?". Might as well move up. I usually keep a few old versions around just in case. But with ZLauncher, I've never had to go back.
Bob
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