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Treth
03-12-2003, 10:01 PM
A certain problem has come about that I have noticed. The Clie Hi-Res feature is great--I can view images, I can fit more text on a single screen, apps look better, etc. . . . but the problem of FontHack123 has made itself known to me. I don't know whether anyone else here has seen this problem, though I'm sure some have . . .

At any rate, I have begun seeing special fonts put out on PalmGear.com and the like that are designed as Hi-Res. I've tried these, and they work great--but they only have the standard sets of fonts. I want to use a font that I have found for myself--a runic one--as a Hi-Res so that I don't see all the scribbly lines underneath. Has anyone found a developer who has made either (A) a font editor which supports making Hi-Res fonts, or (B) a utility which can simply convert a lo-res to a hi-res? Or even at that, a developer who is willing to attempt this?

I've done some C and C++ programming, both palm related and non, but I don't have the necessary information about the formats of font files, et cetera, that I'd need to undertake this.

Anyone have any news for me?

~Treth

madmaxmedia
03-13-2003, 11:20 AM
The reason for the scribbly lines has to do with the size of your font, relative to the default built-in font. I think it has to be exactly twice the height, otherwise it gets messed up. I'm not sure if font width is significant, probably not since different letter are different width anyway.

I found a program that will convert Truetype fonts to palm fonts, I will try to find the link. It's from a dev that is no longer around.

Fortunately you don't have to go that deep to do font stuff ;)

Here's a good page with lots of info-

http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/palm.html

madmaxmedia
03-13-2003, 11:45 AM
Here's the program that can convert TT fonts to Palm fonts-

http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=1&jid=3E7F956D5F255A8C422B19AA958A77D7&productId=9028&optionId=1_1_2&productType=2&catalog=1&txtSearch=ndm+pilot+font+tool&sectionId=0&platformId=1

(or go to Handango.com and search for 'NDM Pilot Font Tool'.)

It does the best it can to 'convert' to the font size you want, but you'll probably need to do some cleanup as well. After messing with it for 30 minutes, I now realize how good the ClieFonts and SwizFonts are.

Treth
03-13-2003, 02:43 PM
That's a good application, but I think you misunderstood what I'm asking. Sony has its fonts in a special format--one that supports the high resolution features of the Clie. When you assign a font set in FontHack123 in the hack which supports the Clie, you are given two sets of the same fonts to change. Standard, bold, large, et cetera, and HRstandard, HRbold, HRlarge, et cetera. When you assign a NORMAL font to a HR place holder, the font appears incorrectly in the text feilds it's used in, generating the correct font and appearance, but with a lot of gibberish underneath.

There are font packs out there that have HR fonts in them. But there are no tools to convert a normal font to an HR font, and thus, I am left in a quandary. ;)

~Treth

madmaxmedia
03-13-2003, 05:40 PM
Oh, I get it now. There's probably no automatic way of converting a normal font to hi-res, although with some of the other programs you could extract the normal font. you might be able to just scale up the bitmaps to the Hi-Res resolution. They wouldn't look as good this way, but you could probably do it.

Treth
03-13-2003, 11:49 PM
See, the problem is that a HR font in a .pdb file holds twice the data of a normal font in a .pdb file. This generates the problem, because no matter how big it is as a TT font (Might I add, the runic font I'm talking about is already a .pdb), a program will convert it the same way . . .

~Treth