View Full Version : A new Tungsten rumor
From PalmAddict, "Jay2 writes: The T5 is only half the story. Although not confirmed there is already speculation that another Tungsten device is already off the drawing board." [details (http://www.1src.com/?m=show&id=552)]
RobertS
10-09-2004, 04:22 PM
I would suspect this device is the C2. Jeff Kirvin of the excellent site www.writingonyourpalm.com has mentioned that a C2 to be released this winter is being rumored by retailers (always an excellent source of rumors). I have also heard vauge whispers of such a debate from other sources (nothing at all concrete) and such a timetable. Jeff theorizes that the device could look as follows (though he does not explain any basis for this beyond his own experience and knowledge of PalmThink):
# Casing and keyboard identical to an antenna-less Treo 650
# New PalmOne MultiConnector
# 320x320 screen
# 256MB of flash, set up identical to the T5
# WiFi and probably Bluetooth
# 1900mAH battery
# Cobalt 6.0
# $499.99
Wishful thinking? Maybe, but it seems that the T series is no longer meant to be the Palm PDA flagship. In the interview on PalmAddict, PalmOne's Ed Colligan makes it clear that the T5 is a step in an overall solution and the the Treo 650 will be the primary Palm standard-bearer. He also says that Palm will be using WiFi but that it was never part of the plan for the T5. However, sort of out of the blue, he does bring up the T|C as an example of an excellent product with moderate sales.
I have a feeling we will be seeing the following lineup in the coming months -
T5 to replace both the T3 and E.
Treo 650 to replace the 600.
Another Treo without the keyboard as rumored on PalmAddict to be more of a classic smartphone - Think Sony Ericsson P800/900.
T|C2 as theorized by Kirvin (which sounds right to me), the new top of the line Tungsten, incorporating elements of both Tungsten and Treo lines.
This leaves the Zire line as entry level/consumer devices.
Credible? You tell me.
This no-keyboard phone thing sounds promising. Wi-fi, BT and a 320x480 screen and we may have a deal. (not holding my breath)
Brian2
10-09-2004, 05:04 PM
There will be always another tungsten. What a piece of news!
mknavydoc
10-09-2004, 05:35 PM
Hopefully, the C2 will be the "Quick Fix" that most of the palm junkies on this site are after... (and I am one of them!). Although 320 x 480 is a must! They also need to fix the bugs in the T5 that are showing up in various news sources on the web.
Yorker
10-09-2004, 05:41 PM
I'd be more than happy with a tungsten c shell with Garnet, wi-fi and proper audio and mike.
not much to ask you'd think? The tc is just a little bit too crippled at the mo.
RobertS
10-09-2004, 05:52 PM
I have found the C to be an excellent machine and not been overly troubled with the lack of audio or the 320x320 screen.
However, Bluetooth would be very welcome.
Very, very welcome.
However I remind all that the C2 specs are not even rumors, just informed musings. The rumor is of some form of C2 released in the Winter, and Colligan's comments seem to lead in that direction...if viewed from the proper angle.
PatrickS
10-09-2004, 07:07 PM
This kind of news makes very much Palm-sense. You either get a Treo with phone wireless OR you get a TC2 with WiFi. God forbid that there be a device with both. That would certainly not be Palm's style.
Moose Man
10-09-2004, 09:40 PM
Perhaps PalmOne has outsmarted us all and previewed the T5 as a test balloon to determine how much "wrath" they'd catch.
The T5 is a decent T3 replacement but not the panacea device that we all wanted. A Treo with large footprint sans keyboard would be my ideal device as long as it included BT. And down the road they made a Wifi card for it, if it wasn't on board.
Wishing for the perfect device? Does PalmOne have something up their sleeve that will set the handheld world on fire? I hope so for their sake. ;)
zackepceo
10-09-2004, 09:42 PM
I think I would gladly settle for a Treo 650 with bluetooth over a C2 with wifi. The price difference that will undoubtedly be there makes all of the difference for me.
PatrickS
10-09-2004, 10:05 PM
I am seriously considering a Treo 650. The problem is that GPRS data prices up here in the Great White North are indecent. I sure would like to have WiFi onboard so that I could use free Hotspots when they're available. Significant savings there.
Gekko
10-09-2004, 10:25 PM
Let me warn you that I had a Treo 600 and it looked good on paper but it was a marginal PDA and a TERRIBLE cell phone. I sent it back after one week. In my opinion, smartphones in general have a long way to go. I don't think the 650 will be that much better.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3000_7-5134514.html
zackepceo
10-09-2004, 10:29 PM
Let me warn you that I had a Treo 600 and it looked good on paper but it was a marginal PDA and a TERRIBLE cell phone. I sent it back after one week. In my opinion, smartphones in general have a long way to go. I don't think the 650 will be that much better.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3000_7-5134514.html
Really? It looks like the TG-50 I have now, except with SD, GPRS, and a camera.
Yorker
10-10-2004, 04:38 AM
Let me warn you that I had a Treo 600 and it looked good on paper but it was a marginal PDA and a TERRIBLE cell phone. I sent it back after one week. In my opinion, smartphones in general have a long way to go. I don't think the 650 will be that much better.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3000_7-5134514.html
I love my treo 600! why so you think its a poor pda? It runs everything that other palm os pdas run. I have all my favorite apps, and a few other great treo specific ones.
And it functions as a phone bu putting it to your ear and taking in your voice through the mike and sending out the callers through the speaker. How much more functional can you get?
The only think I'd agree with is the need to have a wi-fi and GPRS device. Until that happens I will always have two palmos pdas. (which could be the point I suppose :mad: ) Not going to upgrade to a treo 650 though, don't see the point.
Let me warn you that I had a Treo 600 and it looked good on paper but it was a marginal PDA and a TERRIBLE cell phone. I sent it back after one week. In my opinion, smartphones in general have a long way to go. I don't think the 650 will be that much better.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3000_7-5134514.html
What is your opinion based on?.. with the exception of the low res screen (which will be improved in the 650) it runs everything my T3 does.
And as for it being a poor phone, well i disagree. Mine has never one dropped a call and it has far better reception than say the SE T610 if i switch my sim card between the two...
Reading the link you posted, I cant agree with that report either other than the point about the camera, but then every pda or mobile with a camera built in that i have tried has been a joke.. a camera under 2 mp is just laughable.
Athradon
10-10-2004, 10:22 AM
The writer on Cnet complaining about the Treo had it for Sprint. His problems probably stemmed from Sprint's network technology, not the Treo itself. Sprint uses the 1900MHz PCS band, as opposed to the 800MHz band used by Verizon (CDMA), Cingular and AT&T (both GSM/GPRS). The 1900MHz signal has a higher wavelength, which in layman's terms makes the signal harder to travel through walls, especially those of older buildings. That's why the Sprint rep said they could not guarantee performance inside buildings, not because of the Treo he was using.
IsLNdbOi
10-10-2004, 04:45 PM
I think ANY smartphone like the Treo 600 / 650 should at least have bluetooth for bluetooth headset compatibility. I cringe at the thought of putting the screen up to my oily face! :p
Wollombi
10-10-2004, 06:15 PM
The writer on Cnet complaining about the Treo had it for Sprint. His problems probably stemmed from Sprint's network technology, not the Treo itself. Sprint uses the 1900MHz PCS band, as opposed to the 800MHz band used by Verizon (CDMA), Cingular and AT&T (both GSM/GPRS). The 1900MHz signal has a higher wavelength, which in layman's terms makes the signal harder to travel through walls, especially those of older buildings. That's why the Sprint rep said they could not guarantee performance inside buildings, not because of the Treo he was using.
Actually, 1900MHz is a *shorter* wavelength than 800MHz. You are correct in stating that longer wavelengths penetrate better, however 1900MHz still generally penetrates buildings just fine provided there is no shielding involved.
Herr Kolb
10-11-2004, 01:21 PM
The notorious german site www.nexave.de (wellknown for their lies, assumptions and rumors) has bublished a new image of the T5-successor. For more details look here: http://www.nexave.de/forum/thread.php?sid=&postid=79647 - Greetings from Mr. Herr Kolb
PixelPusher
10-11-2004, 01:58 PM
That's obviously a fake (old logo for one thing), but I wish it wasn't. That thing looks gorgeous!
-Eric
PatrickS
10-11-2004, 02:05 PM
That image is an obvious fake.
Take a look at the blue "Palm" symbol at the center of the strange looking D-pad. That is a throwback to the days when there was a single, unified Palm company. They don't use it now there is "palmOne".
mknavydoc
10-11-2004, 02:53 PM
Yes, that surely must be fake...but it does look very cool.
If Palm is truely planning another device, I don't understand why they are being so secretive. This could cause them to lose loyal and waiting customers to PPC. Seriously, if and when someone can create a decent Palm OS emulator for PPC this would kill palm, no questions asked.
Gekko
10-11-2004, 03:17 PM
PocketPalm
http://pocketprof.org/images/PocketPalm.gif
http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1002089.html
depret
10-11-2004, 03:51 PM
I have that PDA picture on my PC, sorry try again. I recall googling images for PDAs and ran across that image a couple of months ago.
hamsammich
10-11-2004, 04:44 PM
This from Palm Addict (http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmaddicts/):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/hamsammich/TungstenT7.jpg
It's rumored to be the T|7
;)
depret
10-11-2004, 04:44 PM
MOD (Mobile Office Device) powered by Penbex downloaded on June 28, 2004.
depret
10-11-2004, 04:52 PM
MOD (Mobile Office Device) powered by Penbex downloaded on June 28, 2004.
Here is the link.
http://www.tw.rhino3d.com/gallery/user/images/PDA-Render01.jpg
http://www.tw.rhino3d.com/gallery/user/images/PDA-Render02.jpg
http://www.tw.rhino3d.com/gallery/user/images/PDA-Render01.jpg
http://www.tw.rhino3d.com/gallery/user/images/PDA-Render02.jpg
hamsammich
10-11-2004, 04:57 PM
Actually, I didn't do that, but it is a nice job, however! I saw that on Palm Addict, and had a chuckle that the rumors are flying once again!
:D
depret
10-11-2004, 05:18 PM
Let's all be very quite an see how long it takes everyone else to figure it out.
depret
10-11-2004, 05:24 PM
Sorry hamsammich, I did not mean to imply that you were the creative party. I would like to see where everyone else goes with this one.
madmaxmedia
10-11-2004, 06:42 PM
That's a nice looking device (the Penbex). Palm should've gone with that look after seeing those mockups... ;)
meir87
10-11-2004, 06:55 PM
Here is the next Pa1mOne device :D
http://img67.exs.cx/img67/8840/fake1.jpg
hussain
10-11-2004, 07:07 PM
good one, way to rip off the HP iPaq.
hamsammich
10-11-2004, 07:17 PM
Those new HP's are the damned ugliest PDA's in a long time.
Blah.
Gekko
10-11-2004, 07:19 PM
the X50 is here
http://plutoniumshore.com/BBSpics/Aximsite/PDA/AximX50-X50v.pdf
MrNako
10-11-2004, 07:39 PM
Those new HP's are the damned ugliest PDA's in a long time.
Blah.
I couldn't agree more with you. I prefered way better the old ipaq's. If this HP has a 4-inch screen I can't imagine how huge this ppc is with that design. :(
cktlcmd
10-11-2004, 08:08 PM
How about a clamshell Tungsten C2 with 480x320 screen, its own keyboard, 5 way navigator, WIFI, bluetooth, flip screen so we can use it as a tablet PDA, the new Tungsten connector, running Palm OS 6, and the same memory and processor arrangement as the current T5?
Don't you guys think this would be the best? I know... but we all can dream, right?
zackepceo
10-11-2004, 08:12 PM
How about a clamshell Tungsten C2 with 480x320 screen, its own keyboard, 5 way navigator, WIFI, bluetooth, flip screen so we can use it as a tablet PDA, the new Tungsten connector, running Palm OS 6, and the same memory and processor arrangement as the current T5?
Don't you guys think this would be the best? I know... but we all can dream, right?
That sounds dangerously like.. the $1699 clie!
cktlcmd
10-11-2004, 08:36 PM
That sounds dangerously like.. the $1699 clie!
he he he. :)
To be honest, I'll settle for a clamshell Tungsten C2 with both BT and WIFI and the same memory and processor as the current T5. That sounds plausible for Palm One to create this winter.
zackepceo
10-11-2004, 08:38 PM
I would like Palmone to just make a flip treo 650 with a dash of wifi. Hold the antenna, please.
cktlcmd
10-11-2004, 08:45 PM
I would like Palmone to just make a flip treo 650 with a dash of wifi. Hold the antenna, please.
That sounds nice too. Let's just hope and pray that they read these forums and actually take notes to all the members suggestions.
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