Clip PRO 2.0 Released

[pocketscience]

Hi all,

I'm pleased to announce that Clip PRO 2.0 has been released and is available for immediate download. We've included a massive number of new features with this version, and hope that users enjoy the changes!

Clip PRO 2.0 is a paid upgrade for people who purchased prior to August 1st, 04 - and those people should have received an email with upgrade instructions already. Those who purchased since August 1st will receive a free upgrade.

You can download the latest version and try it out here: http://www.pocketscience.com.au/products.asp#ClipPRO

If you have any questions please contact our support line - support (at) pocketscience dot com dot au


Cheers,
Gavin.

[hamsammich]

Gavin, I've sure appreciated your applications the whole time I've been using the Palm OS! Great job!

I am having trouble, though, finding a text-clipping application that works across multiple text types (such as clipping/copying text from eReader, Documents to go or others). Man! You'd think there would be several out there! I wish ClipPro could do this...I certainly like your other products very well!

:)

[nausicaa]

oops i just posted my clip PRO spiel on this other thread (http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68791)

basically, i was real glad clip PRO could handle adding brackets to the beginning and end of highlighted text. I pretty much looked at the Clip PRO functionality in terms of helping with linking tasks, but it has lots of other pluses including 64K clipboard size
(1) Unlike braces DA, however, Clip PRO is not a DA so I can's activate it the way I want to (I have to use the Clip PRO way of activation- automatic when text is selected or hard key) and I can't customize the menu to take the "surround text tool" out of the tool menu (I wish it were in the main menu)
(2) "surround text" tool takes up more screen space than the old Braces DA used to (and the smaller braces DA had more useful input stuff as well as 8 instead of 6 input options).
(3) Clip PRO only lets you have ONE custom entry (so I have to decide among asterisk, underline, double underline etc for my ONE custom entry) in the surround text and
(4)the Clip PRO tool to take out html markings from a doc don't take out link markings from a doc (only takes out <> but not [] )
-- otherwise all good. :) :cool:

EDIT: However, since Braces DA and the Kakomun DA don't seem to work on OS5, Clip PRO is the only way to go for relatively easy inputting of links.
I use WP+ (weekly plan) and must input symbols to link my weekly memo and mission etc pages. Also I am hoping that I can figure out a good system linking stuff using Acrowiki + PSLink + PSMemo + MemoURL or by using Shadow Plan + ?some kind of memo pad replacement that'll work with Shadow Plan (and hopefully save memos to memory stick)?

[ddsmith]

I like the enhancements. It would be nice to be able to access the tools directly instead of going through a sub menu. I will upgrade as soon as the support staff replies to my request for instructions. I didn't get my email.

[pocketscience]

I like the enhancements. It would be nice to be able to access the tools directly instead of going through a sub menu. I will upgrade as soon as the support staff replies to my request for instructions. I didn't get my email.

We're peddaling very hard to keep up with the emails at the moment - we will get to you asap! :-)


Cheers,
Gavin.

[pocketscience]

Gavin, I've sure appreciated your applications the whole time I've been using the Palm OS! Great job!

I am having trouble, though, finding a text-clipping application that works across multiple text types (such as clipping/copying text from eReader, Documents to go or others). Man! You'd think there would be several out there! I wish ClipPro could do this...I certainly like your other products very well!

:)

Have you tried using the Import/Export facilities in Clip PRO - they are there to help integrate with apps such as DTG etc.

It is a shame that the standard Palm OS text control is so limited - forcing developers to "do their own thing" - the downside of this is that with most of these apps there is no way for 3rd party gear like Clip PRO to "get at" the data in the custom text controls in DTG etc...

If you want to contact me directly I might be able to help you some more. gavin (at) pocketscience dot com (dot) au


Cheers,
Gavin.

[pocketscience]

(1) Unlike braces DA, however, Clip PRO is not a DA so I can's activate it the way I want to (I have to use the Clip PRO way of activation- automatic when text is selected or hard key) and I can't customize the menu to take the "surround text tool" out of the tool menu (I wish it were in the main menu)
(2) "surround text" tool takes up more screen space than the old Braces DA used to (and the smaller braces DA had more useful input stuff as well as 8 instead of 6 input options).
(3) Clip PRO only lets you have ONE custom entry (so I have to decide among asterisk, underline, double underline etc for my ONE custom entry) in the surround text and
(4)the Clip PRO tool to take out html markings from a doc don't take out link markings from a doc (only takes out <> but not [] )
-- otherwise all good. :) :cool:

1. How else would like to activate Clip PRO?
2. Can add more options - I simply added what I thought were the most important to most users, hence the "Custom" option.
3. Will address in next version
4. [] is not HTML that's why... :-) Maybe I could add a custom removal tool...?


Cheers,
Gavin.

[PatrickS]

Maybe a tool which understands the "Forum" version of HTML, like [b], [/i], etc?

[bobbd]

Clip Pro is great and the latest has some wonderful options. I'm having a problem with the Insert Symbol tool on my T3. Every time I try to insert a symbol I get a Fatal Exception. Has anyone else seen this? I've e-mailed Gavin and I know he'll get to it as soon as he can but I wondered if anyone else has seen this. If not, it must be a software conflict.

Thanks

Bob

[kennyd]

Have you tried using the Import/Export facilities in Clip PRO - they are there to help integrate with apps such as DTG etc.

It is a shame that the standard Palm OS text control is so limited - forcing developers to "do their own thing" - the downside of this is that with most of these apps there is no way for 3rd party gear like Clip PRO to "get at" the data in the custom text controls in DTG etc...

If you want to contact me directly I might be able to help you some more. gavin (at) pocketscience dot com (dot) au


Cheers,
Gavin.
I would be interested in following the development of the import feature of ClipPro. I tried it a few months ago, I think after the release of the import/export function. I wasn't getting results with it. I know that I was testing out the feature with iSilo and DTG. I'll have to give it a try again. I don't remember the developers name, but I used to have a hack called MultiClipHack that was capable of seamlessly accessing the clip board of iSilo and WordSmith. Oh the things I miss that died with OS5. WordSmith I know had similar issues with its own proprietary clip board. I really want to encourage your development of this. MultiClipHack ruined my expectations in respect to reference work functionality on a Palm device.

Another side Question Gavin. I have a request for an added feature in Wassup. The ability to dissable the "On/after xxTime" feature between certain times. Wassup was having conflicts with my automatic backup via CardBackup. If I could tell Wassup not to power on during certain time intervals that would be great. I don't know if anyone else has had the same issue or not.

[hamsammich]

Have you tried using the Import/Export facilities in Clip PRO - they are there to help integrate with apps such as DTG etc.

Thanks, Gavin, for your support with a great app! I'll fiddle around with that feature, and let you know!

:D

[pocketscience]

Clip Pro is great and the latest has some wonderful options. I'm having a problem with the Insert Symbol tool on my T3. Every time I try to insert a symbol I get a Fatal Exception. Has anyone else seen this? I've e-mailed Gavin and I know he'll get to it as soon as he can but I wondered if anyone else has seen this. If not, it must be a software conflict.

Thanks

Bob

One beta tester had similar issues on his Treo 600 - but I could never replicate it on any of my devices (Treo600, T1, T3, Z71, Z72, TC, Zodiac2). I'll endeavour to take a longer look at it after I get back my US trip around the 19th Oct - flying out very soon.


Cheers,
Gavin.

[pocketscience]

I would be interested in following the development of the import feature of ClipPro. I tried it a few months ago, I think after the release of the import/export function. I wasn't getting results with it. I know that I was testing out the feature with iSilo and DTG. I'll have to give it a try again. I don't remember the developers name, but I used to have a hack called MultiClipHack that was capable of seamlessly accessing the clip board of iSilo and WordSmith. Oh the things I miss that died with OS5. WordSmith I know had similar issues with its own proprietary clip board. I really want to encourage your development of this. MultiClipHack ruined my expectations in respect to reference work functionality on a Palm device.

Another side Question Gavin. I have a request for an added feature in Wassup. The ability to dissable the "On/after xxTime" feature between certain times. Wassup was having conflicts with my automatic backup via CardBackup. If I could tell Wassup not to power on during certain time intervals that would be great. I don't know if anyone else has had the same issue or not.

I've not had any luck getting details out of Dataviz about integrating with DTG unfortunately - not through lack of trying either! I'll try contacting the Wordsmith guys shortly.

I've been looking at Wassup 1.5, so will look into your feature request when I get back to it.


Cheers,
Gavin.

[pocketscience]

Maybe a tool which understands the "Forum" version of HTML, like [b], [/i], etc?

Cool. Consider it done for the next release. I'm happy to hear of other tools that you think might be of use to people.


Cheers,
Gavin.

[kennyd]

I've not had any luck getting details out of Dataviz about integrating with DTG unfortunately - not through lack of trying either! I'll try contacting the Wordsmith guys shortly.

I've been looking at Wassup 1.5, so will look into your feature request when I get back to it.


Cheers,
Gavin.
Wassup 1.5! Alright. And thanks for the consideration of the feature. I've noticed that other apps that use some of the same function for timed events can even conflict with alarms. As a user is there anything that can be done to eliminate the conflict?

[nausicaa]

1. How else would like to activate Clip PRO?
2. Can add more options - I simply added what I thought were the most important to most users, hence the "Custom" option.
3. Will address in next version
4. [] is not HTML that's why... :-) Maybe I could add a custom removal tool...?
Cheers,
Gavin.

Wow! How nice of you to take the time out to listen to actual pda Users' thoughts & questions!!! :) THANKS for that sensitivity, and THANK YOU for including 64K clipboards and the "surround text" feature in Clip PRO (I had been LOOKING for something like that! Finding Clip PRO was like having an annoying itch satiated at long last! :p ).
Folks, that ONE feature alone makes inputting links a lot less tedious! and the program has a whole bunch of other tools (like insert time and date, or bullet list etc etc). So, on balance, Clip PRO is awesome!
but there were a few things that could stand some improvement (here I'm being a Grouchy Smurf, and the older and wiser Papa Smurf probably wouldn't hassle poor and possibly overworked software programmers on such "i wish" issues :o )

1. Clip PRO activation: Well, the short answer is --> DA all the way! :D
The explanation: My PDA has no keyboard and no back button. Since hard buttons are scarce, ALL but two are set to other DA and app launchers (the 2 lucky apps on hard buttons are wp+ for dates/todos and PsMemo) and for navigation (faking a back button etc). This leaves 2 activation options for Clip PRO pop up : Command Bar and automatic.
But, as an extension-loving pda user, my Command Bar overfloweth ;) and things get booted off from lack of space, so realistically, the only way for me to activate the handy-dandy Clip PRO popup menu is to use the "automatic" feature. But this has been ... uh problematic.
One problem, er, inconvenience- With graffiti input errors, I used to highlight the wrong letters and graffiti input the right letters over them without bothering to delete (since inputting over highlighted text deletes that text anyway). However, now, if I highlight something, Clip PRO pops up and I have to either select "delete" first and then graffiti enter the correct characters, or tap on the screen to get rid of the Clip PRO menu and THEN proceed to graffiti input the right letters. What I'm trying to say is that having Clip PRO on automatic gives me superfluous intermediate taps to do before I can get on with correcting my typo..uh graffiti-o? graffiti-po? well, u know what i mean.
Another inconvenience- double tapping an unknown word activates my dictionary to pop up a mini screen with the definition of the double-tapped word; however, when I double tap a word I suddenly end up with a Clip PRO popup screen AND a dictionary pop up on top of the original document (hauntingly similar to simultaneous blitz of pop-up windows covering the computer screen when surfing the net with Internet Explorer, but on a miniature screen :o ). While "closing" the Clip PRO popup menu (which isn't small for a popup) is not a BIG deal, it IS another superfluous extra step to what used to be a fluid, quick & easy dictionary look up process.
I tried deactivating "automatic" and put Clip PRO into my Hi-launcher menu. This didn't solve my problem b/c putting the Clip PRO app in the menu only activates the "settings" for Clip PRO, NOT the POP-UP clipboard tool (duh!)! So now I am back to using the "automatic" activation mode.
So, I wish the pop-up Clip PRO menu could be activated like a regular DA. I already have hard keys and jog dial press-and-hold set to launch DAs launchers so if Clip PRO did have a DA for the pop-up, I wouldn't have to dedicate one particular button to only Clip PRO, and could avoid popping up Clip PRO every time I use my pop up dictionary or try to correct misspellt text using select-overwrite with graffiti. (And it would be useful if the DA version were configurable so that I wouldn't have EVERYTHING on the current Clip PRO menu on the DA pop up). But, since I don't know how to program, I'm not sure if this is a wildly unreasonable wish or a moderately reasonable one... :confused:
Other users should note that they probably won't run into these problems if they have a spare hard button/key to use for activation or have exercised restraint with their command bar :p so of course, I will be very understanding if Gavin doesn't put "make Clip PRO DA" at the top of his "to do" list. :p but hopefully it is something to consider ...

2. Good point on syntax choices for surround text: different syntax will be useful for different users so it would be hard for a developer to cover all bases.
Nevertheless, I still wish the main menu were customizable in order to: (1) bring certain tools OUT of the tool submenu and up on the main menu (like surround text) and (2) to enable individual users to take out main menu items they don't really use so as to make their main menu popup smaller .

3. [More custom inputs for surround text] Yay!!! This is one of my reasons for registering. I reason that registering is a good way to give shareware programmers recognition/affirmation & incentive to keep developing their cool programs! :D Thank you!!

4. Adding custom options for removal tool could streamline that menu! (maybe checkboxes, so the tool prefs would be :
"STRIP:
[ ] returns
[ ] ex spaces
[ ] html
[ ] custom: other paired syntax (like syntax for links, custom enter syntax pairs)
[ ] custom (enter graffiti) "
and the user could check off all the things she or he wants to clean up in the document. The last custom would be for folks who get weird symbols in their converted pda docs (It'd be nice to clean the gunk out in one fell swoop!) and folks coming off of CRS memo (the checkboxes in CRS memo look like "0,0" in regular memopads so there is a "0,0" in front of every item in the checklist).

So, altho those were my aspirations for a better Clip PRO, I hope I didn't give anyone the wrong impression. I really really appreciate the developer's continuing efforts to make such a useful :D tool ! (It must've been hard to figure out & program the import clipboard feature~ I should add, it works with the iSilo clipboard for BOTH English characters and non-Latin characters)!!!

I have to say, extensions like Clip PRO make me love & adore my pda more than my computer !

[MFB]

Support for Treo 680?

[PatrickS]

I believe the company is out of business.

[Zano2004]

They certainly haven't updated ClipPro in the past several years. I tried to bring to the developer's attention the problems I was having with ClipPro not playing nicely with Palm NVFS devices. Never heard a word from them about this. It still doesn't play well with NVFS devices, which would include the Treo 680.

[HzR]

I used this application a lot on my T3. Unfortunately it is a disaster on my Tx. I've tried a few other programs, but haven't found a good replacement yet.
I've tried to contact them as well but never got an answer...

[Zano2004]

Yes indeed, it was really nice on non-NVFS devices. But it caused so many problems for me, it stayed disabled and eventually I removed it. The only reason I found out that it was ClipPro was trial and error. That took a long time and was a massive head ache. It was and still is really annoying that the developer ignore my emails.:mad:

[Greek]

It would be great if those guys give the source code to Alex, it was a great app in the pre-NVFS days. :) I am using LClipDA now, but it is not as powerful.

Regards,

[Zano2004]

It would be great if those guys give the source code to Alex, it was a great app in the pre-NVFS days. :) I am using LClipDA now, but it is not as powerful.

Regards,Excellent idea. Alex, if you're reading, please bring ClipPro back to life in the NVFS world....... please, please, please......:D

[technical1]

Oddly enough, I am using Clip Pro v2.11 on my TX & all seems well. Using Stability Test 2.0 by flyzip.com & I get no problems, tho my clips aren't that big; but I do have Clip Pro set to work fm my command bar...

Anybody have ideas why I've had no probs?

Eli