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hobodale111
03-11-2003, 03:02 PM
I was wondering if anyone else is made fun of for their pda. My friends make fun of me for my NR70V/U . They asked me why I would spend $500 on something that is that stupid and in their opinion useless. I dont care because I know they are just jeleous but I was just wondering if anyone else has the same problem.

Tixx
03-11-2003, 03:09 PM
Quite the opposite here. Everyone thinks this thing is great. You just see the value of this technology before they do. Eventually they will all be working for companies that require the use of this technology.

hherbzilla
03-11-2003, 03:17 PM
They make fun of me for other reasons.

Importluva
03-11-2003, 04:47 PM
No, my friends all expect me to have the latest tech. They think its coo and try to take it.

jedix
03-11-2003, 04:49 PM
My wife likes to tease me, but all in good fun. She can't say too much, now that she has her own clie.

rob_squared
03-11-2003, 04:50 PM
Most of my friends are jealous of it, but in a respectable way.

Also I never make fun of "lesser" PDA's. :)

jedix
03-11-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by hherbzilla
They make fun of me for other reasons.

:(

Mastervtec
03-11-2003, 05:07 PM
Yeah, my friends say I am stupid with money and what not, but i must have all the electronics I like- clie- digital camera- vaio-etc..

T1000X
03-11-2003, 05:28 PM
I try to buy small, sexy and svelt PDAs. Everyone keeps commenting on the size of my devices, like with my current SJ20 how small and short it is. I think I've been teased more over how much I've spent on PDAs in the past and how I've gone through about nine different changes in the past two years. Most people at my work that see the PDAs I use are a bit envious and jealous. They've learned to watch our Classifieds board, because almost like clockwork every three to five months now I get a new model and sell the old one.

Mastervtec
03-11-2003, 06:36 PM
I have had 11 pda's in the past 13 months!!

OcellNuri
03-11-2003, 06:42 PM
I used to be made fun of a little, but now people see how much I use my devices and I think they understand that I actually have a practical use for them. Kids used to gawk at the $400 price tag of my Visor, but they seem to understand the $600 price tag of the NX. Of course, when I tell them the price they are looking at themselves in the screen via the camera.

Jake K
03-11-2003, 07:44 PM
Most of my friends think my T665 is the best thing in the world, although another thinks pda's are useless and a waste of money. Everyone has their own oppinion.

iebnn
03-11-2003, 07:58 PM
I make fun of my friends' m130 and crappy old ppc and etc :P

They like my NX.... but some think it's a waste of money. I make money off of mine though :P

xyeta
03-11-2003, 08:26 PM
Hobodale111, you clearly need new friends.

Jeffry
03-11-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Mastervtec
I have had 11 pda's in the past 13 months!!

Since last summer:

T415 > SJ20 > T665c > NR70v (x4) > NX70v > SJ30 > SJ33 > NR70v

I have an NR70v now and it has 3 dead pixels. I might return it for a TG50... :)

I noticed that the NR70v's get dead pixels more often than anything else.

Anyway, my Biology teacher has a cheap monochrome Palm (w/no expansion slot) and a stowaway keyboard and I often make fun of him for having that :D Thank gosh he has an IR port so we can beam lesson notes.

mashoutposse
03-11-2003, 08:39 PM
Like some others, it's not until the NR70V, NX70V, and NZ90 that my friends and family could consider the cost justified. My previous PDAs (Palm V, Vx, N760c, and ipaq 3835) were all considered complete wastes of money. The camera, clamshell design, huge screen, and built-in keyboard makes the newer CLIEs look very much like $600+ products.

Considering all the bickering on these boards, one might find it surprising that the NZ90 got overwhelmingly the most positive feedback. Once I took a pic with flash with it, my dear mother actually ORDERED me to sell off the NX :D :eek:

I have yet to obey --still deliberating! ;)

___
03-11-2003, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Mastervtec
I have had 11 pda's in the past 13 months!!

It's people like you that PDA companies lose money. 1 person returning 5 PDAs just because they want the newer one. Unless you bought all 11...but I find that highly unlikely. You don't just return PDAs cuz you want to try another one...you think Sony won't lose money for that?

Jake K
03-11-2003, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by ___
[B]...You don't just return PDAs cuz you want to try another one.../B]

Lol, I do. I've returned my SJ30 for the T665 and am about to return my T665 for a V35.

jedix
03-11-2003, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by ___


It's people like you that PDA companies lose money. 1 person returning 5 PDAs just because they want the newer one. Unless you bought all 11...but I find that highly unlikely. You don't just return PDAs cuz you want to try another one...you think Sony won't lose money for that?


Do you think its worth yelling at someone for something that you don't know if it is true or not? You don't know (neither do I) if he bought all of them. Why not ask first, yell later (if appropriate)

sindu
03-11-2003, 09:43 PM
My friend and colleague drool when they see my new "flash" and waiting next in line to get my old one when a new one is out. I just love Palm PDA...make my life so organize and work so efficient. BTW, I bought all my PDA with hard currency from my hard earned money after deducting taxes to government......

Mastervtec
03-11-2003, 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by ___


It's people like you that PDA companies lose money. 1 person returning 5 PDAs just because they want the newer one. Unless you bought all 11...but I find that highly unlikely. You don't just return PDAs cuz you want to try another one...you think Sony won't lose money for that?
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How dare you imbosil!!! I bought every last one of them!! I sell them on ebay when I don't like them!! I am insulted~~~ As far as I am concerned, you can got to HELL!!! You think Sony doesn't already make billions!! Go cry to them!!!

rob_squared
03-12-2003, 12:45 AM
___ is our local troll.

Please, don't feed the trolls. :)

cbulock
03-12-2003, 01:01 AM
That was uncalled for though. (What trolly said, what mastervtec said was fine)

jmg_NX21
03-12-2003, 01:40 AM
Fun of? No.

I get oooh & aaaaah's... I always have some video clip, mp3, photos to SHOW off.

;)

sindu
03-12-2003, 01:44 AM
jmg, you could use the clieremote to turn off the tv of your friend and he would wonder what is happening. I did that and my friend were looking high and low for his tv "problem"....he even thought of ditching it eventhough he just bought it.

T1000X
03-12-2003, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by Mastervtec
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Originally posted by ___


It's people like you that PDA companies lose money. 1 person returning 5 PDAs just because they want the newer one. Unless you bought all 11...but I find that highly unlikely. You don't just return PDAs cuz you want to try another one...you think Sony won't lose money for that?
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How dare you imbosil!!! I bought every last one of them!! I sell them on ebay when I don't like them!! I am insulted~~~ As far as I am concerned, you can got to HELL!!! You think Sony doesn't already make billions!! Go cry to them!!!

You bought all of them?!? I'm impressed. I had to put some of mine on my credit cards that I'm still paying off. I will be proud to say it when I get my TG50 that it will actually be my first PDA I bought with CASH I earned. I had to sell a lot of stuff (including an OLD laptop) in order to get it.

I take pride knowing I've been able to try and use so many different PDAs, and educate people at my work about each one. I think the PDA I miss the most was the NR70V I sold at work to some guy using a payment plan, and never got all of my money out of him. I learned after that to never "finance" anything to anybody at my workplace. I would love to repo it back from him If I could find him.

sindu
03-12-2003, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by T1000X


You bought all of them?!? I'm impressed. I had to put some of mine on my credit cards that I'm still paying off. I will be proud to say it when I get my TG50 that it will actually be my first PDA I bought with CASH I earned. I had to sell a lot of stuff (including an OLD laptop) in order to get it.

I take pride knowing I've been able to try and use so many different PDAs, and educate people at my work about each one. I think the PDA I miss the most was the NR70V I sold at work to some guy using a payment plan, and never got all of my money out of him. I learned after that to never "finance" anything to anybody at my workplace. I would love to repo it back from him If I could find him.

Rest assure that eventhough you bought your PDA with credit card payment plan, the title has pass to you and you are the legal owner of the PDA. The credit card company is just a unsecure creditor to you...

I love gadget and my 4 young kids love gadget as well..so my house is fill with it. The only person in the family that don't take interest in it is the mother whenever i bought gadgets for my kids, specially mobile phones. My 11 year old daughter just bought Nokia 3650 for US$500 inclusive of 128mb MMC that enable her to take video clip with the phone. The phone is tri-band, GPRS, MMS, and BT enable. coold stuff.

Jeffry
03-12-2003, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by ___


It's people like you that PDA companies lose money. 1 person returning 5 PDAs just because they want the newer one. Unless you bought all 11...but I find that highly unlikely. You don't just return PDAs cuz you want to try another one...you think Sony won't lose money for that?

Even if mastervtec and others returns xxx amount of CLIEs, Sony's still making billions. They don't even care.

Mastervtec
03-12-2003, 12:39 PM
Exactly, thank you. However I did buy them all, but like you said it doesn't really matter!!~~

jedix
03-12-2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by rob_squared
___ is our local troll.

Please, don't feed the trolls. :)

Thank you for reminding us! :)
Oops, I fed the troll!

Talula
03-12-2003, 08:26 PM
My boss once called me weird. I'm a teacher and I record a lot of anecdotal records as well as results from observations and assessments. Instead of toting around files, folders, and papers, I walk in with my T665c, pull up a particular kid, and read what I've found. I'll use my portable keyboard to write down information the specialists (speech and language, physical therapy, etc) give me. I can tell them things they've told me faster than they can remember what they've told me.

But yet, I'm "wierd" according to my boss.

She also describes me as organized and the information I give about my kids as "rich."

Talula

T1000X
03-12-2003, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Talula
My boss once called me weird. I'm a teacher and I record a lot of anecdotal records as well as results from observations and assessments. Instead of toting around files, folders, and papers, I walk in with my T665c, pull up a particular kid, and read what I've found. I'll use my portable keyboard to write down information the specialists (speech and language, physical therapy, etc) give me. I can tell them things they've told me faster than they can remember what they've told me.

But yet, I'm "wierd" according to my boss.

She also describes me as organized and the information I give about my kids as "rich."

Talula

I'm sorry, Talula, but that is just plain weird. Profiling the students? Man, I hope you have a password encryption program on your PDA to protect it and on your PC you HotSync it with too. With your T665C do you run into battey problems with the kind of use you describe? Have you thought about the TG50 with it's voice recorder?

hherbzilla
03-12-2003, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by T1000X
I'm sorry, Talula, but that is just plain weird. Profiling the students? Man, I hope you have a password encryption program on your PDA to protect it and on your PC you HotSync it with too. OK, I'll bite. Why is that "just plain weird"? Knowing that bit of info, I'd guess Talula's one of the better teachers. What's wrong with taking time to know the students and being able to tailor education to meet their needs? As for encryption, good idea, but the info is probably safer on the PDA than sitting in some files on a desk or in a drawer.

quiller
03-12-2003, 09:39 PM
i'm a senior in high school, so having a "high end" PDA is considered "nerdy." i've had a PDA since my freshman year when my dad bought me a brand-spankin-new Visor Deluxe. I upgraded that to a Visor Platinum, then to a Clie T415 and now my T615. I'm planning on getting the TG50 a month or so afer it releases here.

I get a little slack from some of my less technologically inclined friends. mostly it's just the "why spend that much on something you never use" or "don't you just play games?" not at all, i use my T615 more than the pen in my pocket!

___
03-12-2003, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Jeffry


Even if mastervtec and others returns xxx amount of CLIEs, Sony's still making billions. They don't even care.

And in that sense, if everyone returns xxx amount of CLIEs, what will happen? Obviously it is wrong to simply return a Clie because you want a newer/better/different one.

T1000X
03-12-2003, 10:12 PM
I started off using a Visor Deluxe as well, and then I graduated to the N760C, to the T615C, then T665C, the NR70V, Compaq iPaq 3835, NR70V again, NX70V & SJ20, SJ30 and now I'm waiting to get the TG50. I've used each one of the models I've had, some more than others. When I went on vacation last year with the iPaq, I used it between my digital camera and CF cards and the Photogenics program to view the images on a slightly larger screen. Now, I'm also looking at some of the new Sony 3MP cameras that support MS Pro so I can do somewhat the same on a Clie.

As about the weird comment, I was just kidding around. It is an awesome idea to keep track of the kids that way, and I think if the management here where I work did things like that they would have a better "image" of being organized. Talula, what programs do you use?

Jeffry
03-13-2003, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by ___


And in that sense, if everyone returns xxx amount of CLIEs, what will happen? Obviously it is wrong to simply return a Clie because you want a newer/better/different one.

Sony wouldn't go bankrupt because remember that they are a consumer electronics giant. They can make their money from WEGA TVs and audio equipment and so on....

There's nothing wrong for returning CLIEs. Everyone has different needs and wants when it comes to PDAs and that is why we have a wide array of models to choose from. Some people prefer to try a little bit of this, and a little bit of that until they can find the perfect PDA that suits their needs.

I'm not going to turn this to an argument so I'll stop right here.

JMS
03-13-2003, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by Jeffry


Sony wouldn't go bankrupt because remember that they are a consumer electronics giant. They can make their money from WEGA TVs and audio equipment and so on....

There's nothing wrong for returning CLIEs. Everyone has different needs and wants when it comes to PDAs and that is why we have a wide array of models to choose from. Some people prefer to try a little bit of this, and a little bit of that until they can find the perfect PDA that suits their needs.

I'm not going to turn this to an argument so I'll stop right here.


But why limit the logic of the discussion to just the clie line? Do we also return our tv, video camera, etc. every time a newer model arrives? Yes, there are a wide array of models to choose from, but this means the consumer should first research which model best suits his needs, as well as keep in mind technological developments likely to me made in the near future. Of course, there is nothing wrong in returning a defective model, but why is it that many clie owners' devices turn defective only once a new model is released? I wonder how many upgraded to from the NR to the NX due to sudden "defects" once the former was discontinued.


JMS

SprSaiyan8
03-13-2003, 07:28 AM
no but i make fun my friends that don't have one LOL

Mastervtec
03-13-2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by JMS



But why limit the logic of the discussion to just the clie line? Do we also return our tv, video camera, etc. every time a newer model arrives? Yes, there are a wide array of models to choose from, but this means the consumer should first research which model best suits his needs, as well as keep in mind technological developments likely to me made in the near future. Of course, there is nothing wrong in returning a defective model, but why is it that many clie owners' devices turn defective only once a new model is released? I wonder how many upgraded to from the NR to the NX due to sudden "defects" once the former was discontinued.


JMS


Actually, I think more pda's are returned compared to anything else, a tv cannot improve that much that it is worth returning, and if it does improve enough that people think the one they bought needs to be returned for the "newer model" it is probably alot more expensive, i.e., going from reg tv, to HDTV, or reg screen to flat screen, other than that improvements are minor. Most people do research the item they are buying, but I blame Sony for the high return of Clies, I don't think a new model of Clie needs to be released every couple of months with mostly the same specs as the one before, but with a little "something extra," that you just have to have.JMO

Frostie
03-13-2003, 10:20 AM
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JMS
03-13-2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Mastervtec



Actually, I think more pda's are returned compared to anything else, a tv cannot improve that much that it is worth returning, and if it does improve enough that people think the one they bought needs to be returned for the "newer model" it is probably alot more expensive, i.e., going from reg tv, to HDTV, or reg screen to flat screen, other than that improvements are minor. Most people do research the item they are buying, but I blame Sony for the high return of Clies, I don't think a new model of Clie needs to be released every couple of months with mostly the same specs as the one before, but with a little "something extra," that you just have to have.JMO

Yes, but I don't see how Sony releasing a new model justifies say fraudulent behavior such as causing or claiming a defect in a device that had until then been working properly.

I see nothing wrong with Sony releasing new models with great frequency, as it is clear that they are trying to expand public interest in PDAs and the Palm platform by targeting different groups, many of which priorly had no or little interest in the technology. This helps create a greater demand for more and better programs, which is good for all users, old and new, and should be appreciated.

There is no real basis for many reactions on this board to newer models. If you purchased your Clie, taking into consideration your needs and the realistic uses of the device, and the device does everything it is specified as doing, complaining that there is a new "better" model is childish. Yes, I would have liked a voice recorder on my NR70V, but when I bought it I knew that this function was not included. Do I have the right to be offended that it was included on the NX? Has Sony in some way wronged me or deprived me of the right to use and enjoy my NR? Obviously not.

JMS

Talula
03-13-2003, 04:18 PM
I'm sorry, Talula, but that is just plain weird. Profiling the students? Man, I hope you have a password encryption program on your PDA to protect it and on your PC you HotSync it with too. With your T665C do you run into battey problems with the kind of use you describe? Have you thought about the TG50 with it's voice recorder?

As about the weird comment, I was just kidding around. It is an awesome idea to keep track of the kids that way, and I think if the management here where I work did things like that they would have a better "image" of being organized. Talula, what programs do you use?

To begin, keeping track of kids the way I described isn't just an awesome idea, it is an absolute necessity. I teach preschoolers who have special needs. This means I'm not dishing out math test, spelling quizes, History papers or the like. My children are not "graded" in the traditional sense. So if I am concerned about a kid, I cannot pull out a stack of papers with poor grades to make my case.

In my job I have to begin with an extensive knowledge of child development. I have to know exactly what a typical child can do in each of five domains (social emotional, adaptive (that means self help skills), motor skills, cognitive or academic skills, as well as language skills (both receptive and expressive).

Then I watch the children while they play. For example I listen to their words and how they talk to eachother and me and if they are able to follow directions. I watch how they move their bodies, I analyze how rich their play themes are (do they get really involved in a house theme, or do they just dump the toys on the floor). Of course, while they play, I also must facilitate them to the next appropriate developmental devel. Yes, I teach children how to play. And if a child isn't able to learn to play, chances are they won't learn to read, write, do math etc.

Anyhow. There are formal tests I give a few times a year and I do have a report card I must give out. All of the information I put into my palm is the same exact information all of the teachers around write down on clip boards, and into files.

I have some information, such as test scores and checklists, saved in HanDBase in an encrypted format. I have even more information saved in DayNotez which is password sensitive. I have other information saved in Thought Manager, which is not protected in any way. I do not password the whole device, I couldn't stand entering the password so many times a day.

I used to use a clip board. Then I left it on my desk during an open house and found a parent reading it. A parent is entitled to information about their own child. They are not entitled to information about other children. Its easy to flip through a few pages and read. My Clie is usually in my pocket, if I'm not using it. Sometimes I put it down. But a Clie turns itself off. So just glancing down at it won't give you any information. I also keep it in a case. So someone would have to pick it up, open it, turn it on, find the right programs, know my passwords, enter them, and then read. Much more difficult than quickly opening a file folder. I guess I could leave it somewhere in the building, but file folders could also be left somewhere.

Battery Life - well, I keep the backlight as low as it will go (not off, just low) and I end the day at aout 60%. And I probably use it a total of 4 hours a day, maybe slightly less. The other day the backlight was on high and I didn't notice it. It nearly died by the end of the morning. If I get really desperate I figured out I could use the portable keyboard (I'm a great touch typist) and the backlight on hold. I can take notes "blind" for quite a while with little stress on the battery.

As for the TG50? I like the voice recorder. But I hate the little keyboard. I'm really good at writing with Jot. I'm one of those holding out for a VG model. If it had 32mg though, I might go for it. I could REALLY use more room!

Ok, that was long winded. Sorry, but you asked!
Talula

jedix
03-13-2003, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by SprSaiyan8
no but i make fun my friends that don't have one LOL


That's a good idea! Turn the table on them!

jedix
03-13-2003, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Frostie
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COOL! ME LIKE ALOT!!!

T1000X
03-13-2003, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by Talula




To begin, keeping track of kids the way I described isn't just an awesome idea, it is an absolute necessity. I teach preschoolers who have special needs. This means I'm not dishing out math test, spelling quizes, History papers or the like. My children are not "graded" in the traditional sense. So if I am concerned about a kid, I cannot pull out a stack of papers with poor grades to make my case.

In my job I have to begin with an extensive knowledge of child development. I have to know exactly what a typical child can do in each of five domains (social emotional, adaptive (that means self help skills), motor skills, cognitive or academic skills, as well as language skills (both receptive and expressive).

Then I watch the children while they play. For example I listen to their words and how they talk to eachother and me and if they are able to follow directions. I watch how they move their bodies, I analyze how rich their play themes are (do they get really involved in a house theme, or do they just dump the toys on the floor). Of course, while they play, I also must facilitate them to the next appropriate developmental devel. Yes, I teach children how to play. And if a child isn't able to learn to play, chances are they won't learn to read, write, do math etc.

Anyhow. There are formal tests I give a few times a year and I do have a report card I must give out. All of the information I put into my palm is the same exact information all of the teachers around write down on clip boards, and into files.

I have some information, such as test scores and checklists, saved in HanDBase in an encrypted format. I have even more information saved in DayNotez which is password sensitive. I have other information saved in Thought Manager, which is not protected in any way. I do not password the whole device, I couldn't stand entering the password so many times a day.

I used to use a clip board. Then I left it on my desk during an open house and found a parent reading it. A parent is entitled to information about their own child. They are not entitled to information about other children. Its easy to flip through a few pages and read. My Clie is usually in my pocket, if I'm not using it. Sometimes I put it down. But a Clie turns itself off. So just glancing down at it won't give you any information. I also keep it in a case. So someone would have to pick it up, open it, turn it on, find the right programs, know my passwords, enter them, and then read. Much more difficult than quickly opening a file folder. I guess I could leave it somewhere in the building, but file folders could also be left somewhere.

Battery Life - well, I keep the backlight as low as it will go (not off, just low) and I end the day at aout 60%. And I probably use it a total of 4 hours a day, maybe slightly less. The other day the backlight was on high and I didn't notice it. It nearly died by the end of the morning. If I get really desperate I figured out I could use the portable keyboard (I'm a great touch typist) and the backlight on hold. I can take notes "blind" for quite a while with little stress on the battery.

As for the TG50? I like the voice recorder. But I hate the little keyboard. I'm really good at writing with Jot. I'm one of those holding out for a VG model. If it had 32mg though, I might go for it. I could REALLY use more room!

Ok, that was long winded. Sorry, but you asked!
Talula

Wow, you sure your PDA! It's great to see how you can use your Clie and the kind of use it gets. I use my Clie for my checkbook register, word processing needs, spreadsheets, gaming and other uses. Like I mentioned, if the management here where I work used handhelds you describe, they could be a lot more organized and efficient. Do you use a program like PiDirect with a large MS? You must have a screen protector on your PDA for all of the use you give it.

You definitely have a very interesting and fascinating job, one that is a lot better then my technical support type position. Good luck with the kids!

*YellowRose*
03-13-2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Talula
To begin, [completely wonderful post snipped for brevity]

Ok, that was long winded. Sorry, but you asked!
Talula I just wanted to say I enjoyed your 'long winded' post.  It sounds like your PDA is REALLY useful to you.  I think most teachers are overworked & underpaid, so if it helps you do your job, GO FOR IT!  ;)

sindu
03-13-2003, 05:58 PM
Talula, where do you teach ?? I want to sent my kids to your school....great attention to students are what is lacking now.

Mastervtec
03-13-2003, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by JMS


Yes, but I don't see how Sony releasing a new model justifies say fraudulent behavior such as causing or claiming a defect in a device that had until then been working properly.

I NEVER SAID RETURNING THE CLIE IN A FRAUDULENT MANOR, DON'T MIS-QUOTE ME!!!

........ models with great frequency

WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN!?!?!

......it is clear that they are trying to expand public interest in PDAs and the Palm platform by targeting different groups, many of which priorly had no or little interest in the technology.

LIKE I SAID, THE DEVICE THEY COME OUT WITH USUALLY HAS EXACTLY THE SAME SPECS WITH JUST A LITTLE "SOMETHING EXTRA"

This helps create a greater demand for more and better programs, which is good for all users, old and new, and should be appreciated.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS, IT DOESN'T DO THAT IN ANY WAY!


........If you purchased your Clie, taking into consideration your needs and the realistic uses of the device, and the device does everything it is specified as doing, complaining that there is a new "better" model is childish.

EVERYONE DOES THIS, CHILDISH AS IT MAY BE, EVEN YOU DO IT!!


......a voice recorder on my NR70V.......... was not included.
Do I have the right to be offended that it was included on the NX? Has Sony in some way wronged me or deprived me of the right to use and enjoy my NR? Obviously not.

WHO EVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT BEING OFFENDED, OR THAT SONY HAS WRONGED THEM OR DEPRIVED THEM THIS WAY??!!?! GET YOUR QUOTES RIGHT BEFORE YOU POST!!! EITHER THAT OR JUST DON'T POST AT ALL!!
JMS

Talula
03-13-2003, 06:48 PM
Hey thanks guys for the nice words! Teaching preschool is truly an absolute joy for me. It is damn hard sometimes though! I really do have to be incredibly observant and I really do have to document EVERYTHING! My Clie is so important to me. I don't know how I ever got by without it.

A screen protector is an absolute must for me. I'm using G2s right now. I do go through them faster than I think the average person does. Mine is about 2 months old and it is starting to show some rough spots.

I have several 128 ms cards. Actually I only use one for programs, backups (EXTREMELY important) and db files, the rest house some pretty awesome mp3s. Someone asked me about PIDirect (is that what it is called). I don't use it, but I don't know what it is. How do I have this feeling I should have it.

I really enjoyed some of your comments about how "fascinating" my job is etc. As a preschool teacher many people confuse me with babysitters. As a matter of fact, you have to have more than one college degree to do what I do. It is nice to hear people actually have a little respect for the preschool teacher.

Oh, one more thing I do with my PDA that may interest any teachers out there. I use a program called "Lesson Plan." It is my entire planbook on my T665c. My entire schedule, all of my lessons, all of my units, are programmed into my Clie. It has a desktop conduit for your PC as well. Goodness I hated those huge plan books. Anyway, pretty cool, you can find it at PalmGear. Just one word of advice. After you use the desktop conduit, make sure you close it before you sync, or your loose all your work. (learned that the hard way!)

I'm currently preparing a presentation on the uses of PDA's in the classroom (by teachers and students). Anyone out there with any other great ideas? Do you do anything interesting you think I might want to talk about it my presentation? Of couse I'll give you some credit. Just wondering.

Talula

ralchizar
03-14-2003, 01:09 AM
Talula- That really is a cool job you have there; but maybe I am biased because I am studying to be a teacher myself.
As to suggestions for your presentation here are a few from a collage student's point of view with an NZ90:
It is a great note taker, even if you are slow with typing and graffiti there is always the memo pad.
I have three silibi on this that my teachers have beamed me, talk about convenence and all in one place :D
If there is a drawing on the board or a slide that I need, I can just take a picture of it.
Of course there is always the voice recording option, very very very helpful in my linguistics class.
I have one textbook that was online on a ms now, that is 10 pounds off my back.
I have not done this yet but I have heard that the ir port can be used in for a powerpoint presentation, if you did this it would be rather impressive.
-Ralchizar

ralchizar
03-14-2003, 01:10 AM
oh yea, you can use the web on campus too, that has come in handy a few times.

JMS
03-14-2003, 01:26 AM
Mastervtec,

I think you need to calm down. Where in my post did I indicate that I was specifically addressing you? I wasn't. You should read more carefully and not be so quick to reply if you don't understand a post. Also, here are a few points to consider.

1) By releasing a broad range of model in various price ranges with different features and designs, Sony is trying to appeal not only to current PDA users, but to new users as well. If they are successful it is good for all of us, as the increase in users gives software developers and accessory manufacturers greater initiative to relase new and better products. I see no reason to complain about this.

2) Saying that Sony only makes small changes or improvements to an old device and releases it as new model is an over simplification. The changes that Sony makes are of two types: design and hardware/software. In the low/mid end perhaps the hardware/software has only been slightly modified, but the change in design is quite apparant. In the mid/high end the updates have been significant in both categories: the NX is not just a NR with a few new features, nor is the NZ an NX with a few new features. The changes are rather marked and by mo means negligible.

3) To say that everybody, myself included, returns/exhanges their PDA for the latest model is simply a false statement. Many people are quite happy with their older models and don't jump at every new Clie. I've only owned two PDAs a Vx and the NR70V, neither one of them has been returned or will be returned.

4) The original objection was that some Clie users take advantage of their warranty in a questionable manner. I didn't say that you do so. My point is no one has the "right" to do so just because Sony released a new model.


JMS

Mastervtec
03-14-2003, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by JMS
Mastervtec,

I think you need to calm down. Where in my post did I indicate that I was specifically addressing you?

YOU PUT MY POST DIRECTLY ABOVE YOURS AS A QUOTE, THAT MEANS YOU ARE ADDRESSING ME~~~HOW DUMB ARE YOU

2) Saying that Sony only makes small changes or improvements to an old device and releases it as new model is an over simplification. The changes that Sony makes are of two types: design and hardware/software. In the low/mid end perhaps the hardware/software has only been slightly modified, but the change in design is quite apparant. In the mid/high end the updates have been significant in both categories: the NX is not just a NR with a few new features, nor is the NZ an NX with a few new features. The changes are rather marked and by mo means negligible.

N710 TO N760, S320 TO S360, SJ30 TO SJ22, T665C TO SJ33 (OOOH, THEY SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED THE DESIGN ON THIS ONE)
IF YOU NOTICE, ALL THESE, EXCEPT THE LAST 2, ARE IN THE SAME SERIES, OF COURSE A DIFFERENT SERIES IS GOING TO BRING MORE TO THE TABLE!!

3) To say that everybody, myself included, returns/exhanges their PDA for the latest model is simply a false statement. Many people are quite happy with their older models and don't jump at every new Clie. I've only owned two PDAs a Vx and the NR70V, neither one of them has been returned or will be returned.

WHY DON'T YOU RE-READ WHAT YOU POSTED, IT DOESN'T SAY RETURNING THE CLIE, IT SIMPLY SAYS "COMPLAINING THAT THERE IS A NEW "BETTER" MODEL:

........If you purchased your Clie, taking into consideration your needs and the realistic uses of the device, and the device does everything it is specified as doing, complaining that there is a new "better" model is childish.




I DON' THINK WE CLICK, YOU AND I.

JMS

*YellowRose*
03-14-2003, 11:03 AM
Mastervtec~  It would be very helpful to me if you would consider not posting your responses in a quote.  It makes it very difficult to read/follow your posts at all.  Post your replies under the quote and it will be much easier for everybody to read.  

In addition, typing in a forum, in email, etc. in all caps is considered 'shouting' and is considered quite rude.   If you do that (and I'm assuming here the 'all caps' parts of the posts are yours) people will quite probably take your messages as hostile instead of as a  polite rebuttal.

Mastervtec
03-14-2003, 05:54 PM
Sorry, I don't like that character JMS, I know that is considered shouting, will refrain~~