Divx to Clie

[rikster2002]

Is there any one program that will just take the Divx file and convert it into usable media on the clie. I am not much with doing multiple things with files. Can anyone help or give me a good run easy rundown on what to do. I know there are many threads on this ,, but I am a n00b to all this

[iebnn]

No.

Read up on doom9.org on how to do DivX->MPEG1 (VCD). Or maybe VCDHelp.com. Then just use Image Converter for MPEG1->MQV (for the NX).

[timewaster77]

It's rather simple. First your run the Divx through TMPGEnc and then take the MPEG which is created and run it through Image Converter. That is all you need to do!

[iebnn]

Sorry I was thinking DVD when I wrote divx above.

Yeah, just use TMPGenc.

[MVives]

I thought that the NX60/NX70V were capable of playing MPEG1 files without conversion. Is it necessary to use Image Converter after processing with TMPGEnc? I know that I am able to view MPEG1 files recorded with my digital camera without conversion.

See also the sidebar on this page:

http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/feature/sony_NX70V.htm

[iebnn]

It is but MPEG1 files are gigantic. Take the extra step and convert it to MQV with Image Converter (it's quick).

[hope]

I downloaded the program. I then clicked on the NTCS and then kept pressing next. I tried to convert a Divx of Matrix whix is 690 mb to mpeg so that I could put it through the image converter. But, everytime I try and have the TMPG program begin to encode, it says that it can not find some P(something) file. Can someone please give me some more specific directions as I know that the image converter has turned most of the videos I have put through it at a rate of about 1mb per minute. At this rate, all I need is my 128mb memory stick.
Please Help!!!

[iebnn]

hope: TMPGenc comes with directions on how to use it.... you can also read on its web site.....

Knowing what that P (something) file is would be necessary for us to help you anyway.

[ipgpe13]

Go to www.dvdrhelp.com

They have various step-by-step guides for converting video and all the links to the freeware you will need.

[hope]

OK. I have got it to convert the avi to mpeg so that quicktime is able to play it. But, big BUT, it doesn't encode for sound and it only converts the movie to a certain point. What I mean is the first time it did 6 minutes. The second 41 minutes. The third 23 minutes. Each one without sound. What am I doing wrong and is there an easier way?

[ipgpe13]

This page has a good DivX to vcd guide:

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/divxtovcd.htm

You should edit the video in TMPGENC into 2 or 3 smaller clips. The clips created by TMPGENC should readily convert with kinoma or Image converter without having to convert to a quick time file.

The mpg1 - VCD format works well for me to get my videos into my clie.

[Halesy]

I've found the following website very helpful for converting to MPEG:

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/divxtovcd#audio

The link talks about problems that TPMEng has with some audio and suggests how to resolve it.

I'm still having trouble getting these onto my CLIE though because of the size of the files. I still need to work the right settings to get at least half a movie onto one 128M MS

[simont]

Originally posted by hope
I downloaded the program. I then clicked on the NTCS and then kept pressing next. I tried to convert a Divx of Matrix whix is 690 mb to mpeg so that I could put it through the image converter. But, everytime I try and have the TMPG program begin to encode, it says that it can not find some P(something) file. Can someone please give me some more specific directions as I know that the image converter has turned most of the videos I have put through it at a rate of about 1mb per minute. At this rate, all I need is my 128mb memory stick.
Please Help!!!

Hope,

If you have the divx (and at 690mb it sounds about right) then you need to run it through virtualdub which comes with the gordian knot pack (excellent bit of software).

Use virtual dub in standalone , set the MPEG4 compression, change audio to full processing and compress the audio using MSADCPM.

I'd suggest you also increase the volume (200-250%) seems to work for the CLie, otherwise the sound on your CLie will be inaudible.

The resultant AVI will be about twice the size of the original, and can easily be processed through image convertor. With the Matrix if you cut the last 6 minutes of titles and first minute of studio information then the post image converter file will be 118mb, which will fit on a 128 stick fine.

Good luck, this may not be the perfect solution but i've been showing off around the office with my matrix on a stick for the poast week and have probably sold half a dozen nx's for Sony....

[ashVID]

Let me 2nd the virtualdub option. Forget making an MPEG1, you just dont have to. The only problem the image converter has is with AUDIO codecs. Run your DIVX file thru VirtualDub and on the video choose direct stream copy and on the audio choose full processing and PCM <no compression> This works EVERY time on ANY codec you have installed...



ash =o)

[Gary Duke]

thanks for the tip :)

[Halesy]

I've just tried again what Simont advised (VirtualDub, MPEG4, MS ADPCM) and it worked a treat. 5mins of the Matrix Reloaded -The Movie, not the trailer! Try finding it using KazaaLite) went to 10M using SQ and Image Converter.

This is after reformatting my hard drive, I think I had some dodgy codecs on my machine!

In the process of converting a bunch of other stuff now:D

[Halesy]

PS

Can't wait to buy my CF now, I won't have to change MSs to watch a full HQ movie!

[nekrataal]

I finally got it working with simont's help, thats a bunch!
Btw, what view size do you guys use for your vids for best viewing? do you crop off the black borders?

[nekrataal]

argh! virtualdub took 1hr 40min, and now image converter is taking forever too. not only that, but it looks like it cuts off at 128MB and creates another file. I can't figure out how to get my matrix file to fit

[Halesy]

nekrataal, I've added some stuff to Simont's post, it might help you.&nbsp; The explanation was written generically and not bothered to update for posting here (you'll understand what I mean when you read it).&nbsp; It includes abit about splitting the file into parts.&nbsp; I'm going to being with ways of speeding up Image Convertor but making VirtualDub (or other) do the work, I'll let oyu know how it goes.&nbsp;

Start up VirtualDub and open the file you want to convert

Go to Video - Compression and select 'DiVX MPEG-4 Low Motion' - the exact name you need is likely to depend on the codecs you have installed.

If your video is more than 60mins and you want SQ on your CLIE then you're going have to split the movie.

To do this go to Video - Select Range... If your video is under 120mins then set the length to half its current value and note this value. If your video is greater than 120mins then you need to cut it up further by splitting it into thirds (or more).

You need a note of length value so you can do this all again for the second half of the movie. When converting the second half of the movie set the 'Start Offset' to this value, leave the rest the same.

Go to Audio and select Full Processing Mode

In Audio go to Compression and select Microsoft ADPCM (note this might be the best for compression but I know it works for me)

Again in Audio go to Volume and set the Volume to be around 250%

Select File - Save As AVI and let it do it's thing. If you have split this movie because it's over 60mins then you have go through this process for the other parts.

Next I use one of the CLIE programs to put the movie onto my NX70, it's known as Image Convertor. I select Convert to CLIE on the file I've just made and convert it. Image Convertor has three quality levels, High Quality - almost 4M/min, Standard Quality - about 2M/min, Long Play - about 1M/min. This can be done either directly to your Palm device or to your hard drive and copied across later. I guess though Image Convertor will only work for CLIE devices.

Now watch the movie - easy!

[Unregistered]

Thanks to your excellent guidence I've finally got it working. 8 min with virtualdub, and I'll have to wait for your tutorial on speeding up Image Converter, but this works great for now. Thanks again Halsey!

[nekrataal]

simont -

exactly how did you get The Matrix to fit on a 128MB stick?? my divix file is 566MB and following yours and halsey's instructions it comes out to 2GB, and ends up over 300 mb when Image Converter is done with it. What are your exact audio, video, and Image Converter settings? Thanks!

BTW, my Futurama episodes which are 222MB come out to about 82MB after IC using my current settings, and they look GREAT!! Thanks for all your help guys!

Nek

[Halesy]

nekrataal - I'm not sure on the length of the original Matrix movie but from some adhoc testing I've done you get about 1M/min (or a bit more) if you use Image Convertor - Long Mode. This means means you should be able to get 2 hours of video onto a 128M stick. I haven't been able to complete a movie this length (just 22mins of The Simpsons) because of RAM problems (I think).

You'll have to wait for a bit for updates from me. Two out of three of my RAM modules are duff - that's 640M RAM I've just lost. I won't be doing any video conversions until I've resolved this little problem i.e. spent more money!

[Halesy]

OK after much trouble with my PC and stuff :( I'm eventually back in business, with 1G of RAM :D.&nbsp; I've spent the last couple of hours testing/playing, here's my what I done:

5mins DivXMPG4 of Matrix Reloaded converted to Image Converter (IC) compatible format using VirtualDub (see below what this is).&nbsp; Then used Image Converter to convert to CLIE format, storing on my HD.&nbsp; Here's what I found:

DivX4 (Low Mation) &amp; DivX5 both work with MSADPCM (audio) on the CLIE (NX70).&nbsp; Resulting file size on the CLIE virtually the same.&nbsp; I didn't tryany other video formats.

I tried MP3 for audio but with no success.&nbsp; There's loads of settings available for MP3 (kbit/s &amp; MHz), someone else can try them out.&nbsp; There's also some other audio conversion options, the IMA produced the same file sizes as the MSADPCM so I didn't go any further with that.&nbsp; None of the options seemed worthwhile experimenting with, they all seemed to produce a mono output.

The one thing I experimented with was resizing the video with VirtualDub instead of getting Image Converter to do it, to see if there was any speed difference.&nbsp; Here's the times (for DivX4):

Resizing&nbsp;(VirtualDub): Conversion with VirtualDub - 195s, conversion with IC - 180s, total - 375s

Resizing (IC): Conversion with VirtualDub - 268s, conversion with IC - 270s, total - 538s

Now I done my best to have similar scenraio's for both tests i.e. nothing running in the background.&nbsp; Even allowing for minor differences in background processes, there's a big difference for such a short video (50%).&nbsp; Someone else want to try the same thing to verify my findings.

FYI, the resizing I done with VirtualDub was from the original format (640x304) to CLIE size (320x240).&nbsp; I didn't keep the aspect ratio the same here as my original plan was to fill the screen on my CLIE.

I'd be interested to see other people's results, if it's true I can save 50% of time on average, for a full length movie that's a lot.&nbsp; And, excuse my not timing the DivX5 conversion for comparison - forgot!

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[njguy5]

Hey Folks....I'm pretty much a novice at this video stuff...but I have been able to follow much of thread, and I have gotten video on my NX. However, what is the software used to edit the mpeg file prior to doing the image converter stuff? Say for example, what to use to cut the Matrix down to size to fit on the MS. Thanks.

[Denmuh]

Hey guys I don't want to seem like a dope, but I just want the end product with out all the work (virtual dub & all that stuff) where can I find, If it exist, movies on sony ms already. Or a way to load them directly to a ms via hot sync if possible.....

[Halesy]

There's two main other alternatives that possibly require less work than using VirtualDub then Image Convertor. These alternatives are:

TealMovie - www.tealpoint.com
Kinoma - www.kinoma.com

I don't use either, partly because you have to pay for them and partly because they don't provide much more than the free programs I use already. The choice, as they, is yours.