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planetjag
03-08-2003, 05:18 AM
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/3185.html

It could almost be enough to convert me to the dark side...

Please stop me!

jag

vansouza
03-08-2003, 08:51 AM
Oh yea, I am tempted too... barf gag... yea right... get real..

buckethead
03-08-2003, 10:42 AM
for some reason, i always like to think that palm device being the dark side (in a good way of course) and not PPC :D whatever...

rhart00
03-08-2003, 12:13 PM
hell will have to freeze over or they stop running microsoft OS before I will even consider converting to the dark side (PPC)

lthwc
03-08-2003, 12:32 PM
Just remember the bottom line: it's still Microsoft Windows.

Jake K
03-08-2003, 01:26 PM
But what if it did run the Palm OS? That would be, by far, the best pda ever made.

kstuart
03-08-2003, 01:31 PM
And the advantage of this over an NZ90 is what?

Jake K
03-08-2003, 01:33 PM
Hmmm...
Maybe the 128 mb ram compared to 11 mb ram?
Or maybe the 400 mhz, 200 mhz system bus chip?
Maybe the 4 inch screen?
And maybe even the battery life?

Jeffry
03-08-2003, 09:47 PM
That large screen is gonna suck up a lot of battery juice.

rhart00
03-08-2003, 10:55 PM
is that screen still 240x320 ?

rob_squared
03-08-2003, 11:05 PM
Yeah, uhm. No?

I'd never get that "thing."

And I'd bet that its still stuck at 240x320.

vansouza
03-08-2003, 11:33 PM
The dark side can not understand that we do not NEED all of that ram and speed. My NZ right now scrolls faster then I can even keep up, it actually makes reading books difficult, so yea, I want to go from 200 to 400. Get a clue, people... we do not need 128 megs... but 32 would be nice. Heck even a real 16 would be nice... but 128? perhaps is 2 or 3 years... Vent mode off... sorry...

vansouza
03-08-2003, 11:35 PM
I don't think the world, and surely not my world, would be better off with just one kind of OS based PDA. I am really happy with the choices that we currently have; let everyone buy what they want and may want they want always be there.

rhart00
03-08-2003, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by vansouza
I don't think the world, and surely not my world, would be better off with just one kind of OS based PDA. I am really happy with the choices that we currently have; let everyone buy what they want and may want they want always be there.

very true. competition keeps up the innovention. if it wasn't for the competition to palm pdas, they might still be grayscale and running palm os version 2

PDA gadgetfreak
03-08-2003, 11:49 PM
I agree too about competition. It keeps development at a higher pace. However, I can't see myself EVER going to the dark side:-)

Importluva
03-09-2003, 12:12 AM
I've been to the dark side and back. I just don't see any PPC out there that will give me half of the functionality that my NX does. I have no need for bluetooth or wifi right now. I need a mini keyboard for notetaking, and the camera is cool, and comes in handy. I also love the clamshell and screen quality.

It is true that competition drives innovation. W/o it, the one company would become a big monopoly anyways, and thats never good for the consumer (ahem M$)

chazzz
03-09-2003, 12:25 AM
1. If the screen were better than 240x320, they would've said so, touting "new Higher Resolution!".

2. PocketPCs don't react like Palm machine to expansion cards anyway -- 128MB base RAM is cool, but you can get larger SD cards and you don't need a program like PowerRun to really get some use out of it. (You also don't need to wait for developers add true "expansion card capability"). Yeah, you have a little lag on the read/write, but don't we all?

3. I have a detachable digital camera for my NX60 -- it's call a Canon G2. :)

4. That 400MHz processor is still limited by the operating system, isn't it? I was in the middle of a PocketPC chess program review using my Jornada 568 (200MHz StrongARM) and my iPaq 3970 (400MHz XScale). And the programs that show its calculation speed tell me that my Jornada is outrunning my iPaq in terms of processing. It might be a faster processor, but until the OS is really written for it, it ain't as cool just yet.

5. It's not really the Dark Side. (Why did I just say that?... Strange... I sense a disturbance in the force... one like I've not felt since... since...)

Importluva
03-09-2003, 12:31 AM
Yea it is still 240x320 (the new OS still doesn't support higher, or M$ doesn't want it). However, the new PPC2003 OS should support the XSCALE chips alot better than now.

peterh
03-09-2003, 04:24 AM
"Everytime you buy a pocket pc, god kills a kitten!"

"Please think of the kittens :'-( "

And thats true you know.

This thing might have some good specs (i doubt it has a 320 x 480 screen), but underneath it all its still a Pocket PC as made by M$. This thing needs a 400mhz processor just to be able to run at a reasonable speed. Where as the NZ can happilly fly along with 200mhz.
Microsoft and intel have a deal. Micro$oft will carry on writing bad processor hungry code in there operating systems, so that the user has to keep on buying a more expensive processor ;-)
As for the memory. Shore 128 would be nice on my NZ, but look at it the other way round. It would be impossible to run a pocket PC with 16mb ram! I'm happy with my NZ memory, and plus i already had a couple of large sticks.

JackAxe
03-09-2003, 05:05 AM
If you don't mind the OS, or the lower rez screen that thing should be faster then any other PDA on the market. This also includes the StrongArm 206.

"Jornada is outrunning my iPaq"
The PXA255 was designed by Intel as a fix for this type of issue. Optimization is only part of the problem, the rest is hardware related. The current bus and memory speeds are to slow for the PXA250. The CPU was upgraded, but they were not. Here's one link that talks about it;
http://www.cewindows.net/faqs/pocketpcstaving.htm

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