Wifi Lan Problems

[SWolf]

I can connect to my wireless lan fine, but thats it, it wont surf the web, I have also tried manually putting my ip, an sugestions?

[n2ifp]

You didn't give much info to work with, but here you go. BTW, there are many threads with tons of info in the wireless and NX forums.

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=262&highlight=wireless

Wireless and HotSync Info
Listed below are some common problems and highlights:

(combined for future reference)

The primary pc name has to be !!(double exclamation points) only!

Only works with the long preamble.

The Sony PEGA-WL100 is the ONLY card that works!

Use static/manual settings for IP and DNS addresses

Leave power save unchecked

Use infrastructure mode when on a LAN, even for the wireless HotSync

May not necessarily work on all Wireless Access Points, does work with Linksys, Dlink, Apple's Airport, and some others.

You can use an SSID of ANY.

Windows XP firewall can block a wireless HotSync.

First step is to get to connect with the LAN, then try to get the WAN side to work(gateway and DNS addressing)

Right click on the HotSync Manager Icon in the PC's system tray and select network as a valid HotSync method in addition to Local USB.

Lots of patience...

The following info was supplied by Xaositek:

network = ; wireless lan
go to details
if you haven't added a profile do so now.

ProfileName: (whatever)
Network ID (SSID): Any (case sensitive)

Go to advanced setup and turn off "PowerSaveMode""

Go to your hotsync program
go to menu
"Modem Sync"
set to "Network"
under LANSync, make sure its set to LANSync

Primary PC Setup
Primary PC Name: !! ;-- another must have this way
Primary PC Address: (the IP address of the computer to hotsync too)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 (unless different from Admin)

Click ok

Go to the main hotsync screen
Click on the "Modem" box
then choice your network as "Wireless LAN"
DO NOT ENTER A PHONE NUMBER

[Swolf]

Thx for the info, but im not talking about wireless syncing, im talking about just connecting to the internet

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by Swolf
Thx for the info, but im not talking about wireless syncing, im talking about just connecting to the internet

Yes, I know, but it was a one size fits all post. If you follow the link, you'll find more info on connecting to the net. Secondly you gave us no info on how you connect to the internet, dialup, dsl, cable modem, or who your ISP is. What OS are you using for example. So I gave you something to try and cover all bases without writing a post the size of a novel. WiFi is a complex issue with many facets, that make almost each setup unique! 

[SWolf]

I am not sure what company the wireless access point is made by because i it is not mine, my wireless hub at home works fine, but the one at my school does not. Again, i can connect fine however acces to the net is not available. I know someone that connects fine with his pocket pc, so i cannot give u too much information unfortunintlly. Some had a question like this in the message board in the link u gave however it was never answered.

[Hong Kong Nick]

I was (still am) having the same problem ... could connect to the wireless station but got no further. I haven't had much chance over the last 2 days to sort out the problem.

However, this looks pretty promising and I will try it tonight when I get home (I don't have an Airport but something reasonably similar ... ) ...

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6721

I will keep going at it.

Cheers.

Nick

[tifosiv122]

I am also having problems, I can connect but no surf, except I was able to surf for 2 out of 4 days...i reset the wap with no luck...this is getting annoying.

Calling linksys again....

Erik

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by SWolf
I am not sure what comoany the wireless access point is made by because i it is not mine, my wireless hub at home works fine, but the one at my school does not. Again, i can connect fine however acces to the net is not available. I know someone that connects fine with his pocket pc, so i cannot give u too much information unfortunintlly. Some had a question like this in the message board in the link u gave however it was never answered.

Okay, but your very first post is misleading as I understood it to be your LAN, not the school's LAN.

In this case you need more info from the LAN administrator at the school. There are situations that may preclude your unit from working. I am not trying to give you a hard time on this, but it's difficult at best to diagnose a problem on a system that we know nothing about. Keep in mind that the Sony CF driver is rather primative compared to one that is in a PC.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by tifosiv122
I am also having problems, I can connect but no surf, except I was able to surf for 2 out of 4 days...i reset the wap with no luck...this is getting annoying.

Calling linksys again....

Erik

Problem is that there are so many variables, plus being able to communicate. Sony could have made things easier I believe. Some of these setups can get rather complex. It also depends on the internet connection type, ISP, different equipment, and systems. Unfortunately they are all not created equal. Some systems have things like LEAP, or they run a short preamble, Sony works only with long preamble and not with LEAP. There are others too. Some systems use VPN, some may have to have the MAC address added and so on.

Set IP and DNS addresses to auto, powersave off. SSID to any, no WEP unless it's required. My setup would only work with static settings, others work fine with auto settings and DHCP. If you use a WEP key, the Linksys only works with HEX! cable modem setups seem the easiest. DSL and Dialups become more complicated as they have to be tied together in the PC by ICS or bridging.

Make sure powersavemode is unchecked to. My clie flat out refused to work with it enabled. At best it will slow the connection to a crawl.

[tifosiv122]

Originally posted by n2ifp


Problem is that there are so many variables, plus being able to communicate. Sony could have made things easier I believe. Some of these setups can get rather complex. It also depends on the internet connection type, ISP, different equipment, and systems. Unfortunately they are all not created equal. Some systems have things like LEAP, or they run a short preamble, Sony works with long preamble. Some systems use VPN, some may have to have the MAC address added and so on.

Set IP and DNS addresses to auto, powersave off. SSID to any, no WEP unless it's required. My setup would only work with static settings, others work fine with auto settings.

My settings are static. Whats weird is I could browse at 3am and when I woke up at 10:30 am I could not, but no settings changed and the clie just sat. I think my WAP is not 'talking' correctly to my hub/router, but I haven't been able to target the problem...I will try and work on it tomorrow...

Erik

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by tifosiv122


My settings are static. Whats weird is I could browse at 3am and when I woke up at 10:30 am I could not, but no settings changed and the clie just sat. I think my WAP is not 'talking' correctly to my hub/router, but I haven't been able to target the problem...I will try and work on it tomorrow...

Erik

Okay, I am getting tired, but I edited my post since you posted here.

[thetazmaniandev]

well if its a school like a college they may require that you register your mac address before it lets you use the network. at my school, they require the registration of the mac address then the authentication through a website.
so there might be some sort of issue like that

[n2ifp]

Right, one has to ask lots of questions, to find out what is required.

[SWolf]

No the school does not require to regester a mac address, infact i was able to surf the web with the same wl100 card on my clie ysing a cf adapter on my laptop, its wierd i dont know what the problem is, i just spen like 45 minuets today trying to put in different ips and stuff. I dont know what is wrong, the only other thing to do now is to bring my laptop, get to the internet, get my ip, subnet, etc. then disconnect and put it on my clie, hopefully that will work. But i dont know if the ip is static or not

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by SWolf
No the school does not require to regester a mac address, infact i was able to surf the web with the same wl100 card on my clie ysing a cf adapter on my laptop, its wierd i dont know what the problem is, i just spen like 45 minuets today trying to put in different ips and stuff. I dont know what is wrong, the only other thing to do now is to bring my laptop, get to the internet, get my ip, subnet, etc. then disconnect and put it on my clie, hopefully that will work. But i dont know if the ip is static or not

Does your school use short or long preamble? Short preamble won't work on the Sony. The clie may not be compatible with the network, so keep that in mind.

The card is fine, the weak spot is the primative driver in the clie!

[bucalo9]

I connect at home & at work. My settings are the same for my NX. I wasn't always able to surf at work though.- This had to do with the mysterious ways in which my company manages lan/wan security. It was my IT guy that requested from his corporate counterparts to change our location status, that allows me to surf now. Normally a PC needs to authenticate thru Novel Border Manager first. We requested an 'open' status to allow our Macs access to the net. The open door works for my NX too. Long story short-the answer may be w/security that favors PCs, not PDAs. Sorry for no specific answer, but symptoms sound similar to mine until I got help.:) :)

[SWolf]

Not sure if it short preamble, hopefully not, if this is a flaw in the driver for the card then sony should fix it! Anyway i know it is not a pda or pc thing because all the peopel w/ pocket pcs get internet. Its kinda nice on the pocket pc, it searches for network and then you can connect to it, unlike the clie.

[SWolf]

by the way the router is a Cisco aironet 340 series

[SWolf]

sry forgot to enter my username and password on the other post

[n2ifp]

Sorry, you'll have to consult and work it out with your IT person. I have no way of knowing how the LAN is setup. Additionally I do not know if the primative Sony CF LAN driver is even compatible with their system setup. I understand that the PPC's and laptop's work, it's not the card, but the driver. The problem with the driver is that has very limited features.

[franci miller]

So wifi connections are not possible without the IT person, I guess I was mislead by reading too much. I thought that somewhere I remembered peopple tlaking about the hump? and other ways of conncting that I do not understand (in a purely tech.way) and presumed I could use a Sony pega L-100 to auto connect or search for the LAN network in airports or hotels? I still have 13 days to return it, any suggestions. too abstract?

[franci miller]

So wifi connections are not possible without the IT person, I guess I was mislead by reading too much. I thought that somewhere I remembered peopple tlaking about the hump? and other ways of conncting that I do not understand (in a purely tech.way) and presumed I could use a Sony pega L-100 to auto connect or search for the LAN network in airports or hotels? I still have 13 days to return it, any suggestions. too abstract?

[franci miller]

So wifi connections are not possible without the IT person, I guess I was mislead by reading too much. I thought that somewhere I remembered peopple tlaking about the hump? and other ways of connecting free that I did not understand (in a purely tech.way that is) and presumed I could use a Sony pega L-100 to auto connect or search for the LAN network in airports or hotels? I still have 13 days to return it, any suggestions. too abstract?

[franci miller]

n2ifp, Let me know when this becomes (became) tedious
So wifi connections are not possible without the IT person, I guess I was mislead by reading too much. I thought that somewhere I remembered peopple tlaking about the hump? and other ways of connecting free that I did not understand (in a purely tech.way that is) and presumed I could use a Sony pega L-100 to auto connect or search for the LAN network in airports or hotels? I still have 13 days to return it, any suggestions. too abstract?

[franci miller]

I am sorry I really don't know how that happened I think it is time to go back to reading cliesource and enjoying my NX for all it already is. If I clogged your email I apologize.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by franci miller
I am sorry I really don't know how that happened I think it is time to go back to reading cliesource and enjoying my NX for all it already is. If I clogged your email I apologize.

Ha-ha, LOL, funny.

For those tuning in, this is an extension of the following thread:

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=109233#post109233

It all depends where you are. In a regular business enviorment, things maybe locked down for security purposes to prevent hacking for example. In a hotel you may not need an IT person. In certain businesses not typically open to the general public, then any entity worth their salt will take steps to secure their networks.

What it boils down to is this, it all depends...

[bucalo9]

Yeah. I don't know if it was my post or others that was discouraging. I just thought that maybe in this instance where you couldn't surf, you might have access to IT people. It would be the shortest path to success and I thought you had already succeeded surfing on another network. So I assumed you had already discovered how to set things up to get that far. I think there will always be networks you can't get into because of their security-its not because the documentation is poor(which it is) or you don't know the settings. I haven't connected anywhere's yet accept for where I bought and installed the setup myself, and at one Starbucks. I just don't have easy access to hotspots. I don't go to university campuses and I don't frequent NY or Philly much-where wifi seems to be more common. I have seen airports offering pay for services, but I have laptop and cell phone that I can use at that point.

Maybe asking the guy with the PocketPC that can surf on campus, what his settings are, would be a good idea. Is it common knowledge on campus that wifi is free there? Is it free there? I pass several colleges a day, commuting to work-wonder if I stopped in, what I'd find. What buildings usually have wfi available? Library, Union, Admin, Computer?