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jconaway99
01-17-2003, 11:41 AM
Can someone tell me how to restore my rom from a backup made with syncwizard? I screwed mine up using jacksprat and can't seem to get it back. I will take any and all suggestions. Thanks!

pnp!
01-17-2003, 11:23 PM
I can give you my rom. I've made a backup with jacksprat.
Can it help you?

jconaway99
01-18-2003, 04:57 PM
Check your private mail. Thanks!

pnp!
01-18-2003, 08:27 PM
Ok buddy!..
I've checked it and took down your mail...
I've explained everithing to you in the private mail, I'm sending you the rom as soon as posible.
Good luck with the rom!...

jconaway99
01-19-2003, 01:32 PM
Thanks! In the meantime...could you send me the Applications PRC? You know..the one that is the basic application launcher? That is one of my problems...I can't get to anything to launch it...I accidentally deleted it. Send it to my home email. Thanks!!!

Macabre Man
01-19-2003, 01:34 PM
This is why I will never use jacksprat and jackflash. I had to get rid of my NR unit and I think one of the reasons was due to these two programs. I now have a Tungsten and I will not f@ck that one up.

nevarDeath
01-19-2003, 01:38 PM
Yeah i accidentally deleted my app launcher, and never was able to restore my backups...good thing I liked YiShow :D, but yeah I'd never f*ck with it again

Willber-Force
01-19-2003, 01:57 PM
I never learn, I just keep messing with it and by some twist of fate I always get it working again.... only to be screwed by it later on.

jconaway99
01-19-2003, 03:24 PM
Could someone send me the Application launcher? Please! jconaway99 AT yahoo.com

vw_bugg
01-19-2003, 04:05 PM
I have a suggestion. You can still hotsync and get into Prefs right? If you dont already have a launcher then Install one and use Prefs to remap a button to that launcher. Problem solved.

leo_clie
01-20-2003, 03:47 AM
I also killed almost my Clie twice.

Once when I wanted to upgrade the Address to the NX-version with deleting via Jacksprat than placing the NX-Addresses in RAM lead finally to a breakdown. I was forced to reinstall the whole ROM and therefore lost all apps in ROM.

And second when I installed a Hack in ROM which souldn't be installed and produced after each reset imediately an FatalAllert + Fatal Error which therefore requested a new Reset with a new Fatal ...

Fortunaltely even this could be passed.

But at the bottom line I'm quite satisfied with these two programms, especially I found them in Internet :D

GLORYBEARER
01-20-2003, 04:04 AM
I've been using JackSprat and JackFlash and haven't run into any problems at all. You basically only need to use JackSprat once, then after that just use JackFlash. The products work great on my NR70.

GLORYBEARER
01-20-2003, 04:08 AM
Actually, past versions of Jack Flash used to crash my NR everytime it would get done compacting flash ROM, but the latest version seems runs flawlessly.

jconaway99
01-20-2003, 05:43 AM
Thanks for all your responses. I got it restored using jacksprat. I probably should have read the manual before I claimed the sky was falling. Now I will be more careful.

Mr Sheen
01-23-2003, 04:13 PM
I cleaned my rom with Sprat and it works w/o any problem. I have made the backup as recommended.

I removed all the basic apps (but kept the DB) as I use better substitues. Now I need MemoPad and I do not want to fork out 20 bucks for Memo Plus. Any way I can restore MemoPad selectively or doea a good soul have a copy of it?

Help is very much appreciated.

Thanks,

Sheen
:cool:

zeke87
01-23-2003, 04:26 PM
I've replaced all my built in apps, launcher included, and am running flawlessly. I've gotten some errors, but nothing a little experimentation can't fix. JFlash/Sprat great software. I keep all the originall apps+databases on mem stick in case I need to use the default launcher or something. I have Autorun set to run ZL everytime my stick inserted (Autorun not deleted from ROM), or I just remap a button to avoid reset problems.

zeke87
01-23-2003, 04:30 PM
When you deleted your built in apps, did you have them set to delete, or RAM? I would suggest moving them to RAM, so you can reinstall, or use them whenever you need to.

rquinlan19
01-23-2003, 10:04 PM
pnp! can you send me that rom backup... im sorta in the same situation... i made a backup but lost it when my hd went belly up. thanks in advance

Mr Sheen
01-23-2003, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by zeke87
When you deleted your built in apps, did you have them set to delete, or RAM? I would suggest moving them to RAM, so you can reinstall, or use them whenever you need to.

I killed them, as I never expected I would need something as basic as MemoPad any day. I have the full Sprat backup, is it possible to extract just MemoPad?

Thanks,

Sheen

clkoay
01-23-2003, 11:32 PM
this is why i never mess around with the rom ;-)

Jewboy
01-24-2003, 12:27 AM
never encountered a problem that couldn't be resolved, all these issues are fixable, as far as i am concerned. About getting one of the apps back, you are better off asking someone to send you a copy or just get a free replacement, there is a free version of HandStory for MemoPad for example, if you are missing the database for it just search for an old backup in your archive folder....

jayboydog
01-24-2003, 01:34 AM
if you move an app to RAM (not delete), can IT be moved back to FlashROM or do you need to reinstall the orig backup? Although different app filenames can be written to FlashROM, I understood moving an app to RAM leaves a smaller file in FlashROM which prevents simply moving the app into FlashROM again--as that app filename already exists in FlashROM.

zeke87
01-24-2003, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by jayboydog
if you move an app to RAM (not delete), can IT be moved back to FlashROM or do you need to reinstall the orig backup? Although different app filenames can be written to FlashROM, I understood moving an app to RAM leaves a smaller file in FlashROM which prevents simply moving the app into FlashROM again--as that app filename already exists in FlashROM.

It can be moved back to flash ROM through Jack Flash. I'm not quite sure about that second part, but I do know that it leaves "stubs" in ROM so that there aren't huge problems when a program goes and tries to launch like the default memo pad when it doesn't exist. I've never had to move an original file back to ROM via Jack Flash. If I've needed to, I've just temporarily loaded into RAM, so I don't know what issues might occur. Anyways......

Mr Sheen
01-24-2003, 04:08 AM
Originally posted by Mr Sheen


I killed them, as I never expected I would need something as basic as MemoPad any day. I have the full Sprat backup, is it possible to extract just MemoPad?

Thanks,

Sheen

I am a dumb ***. I have pEdit and completely forgot it. Problem solved. Thanks for the comments opening my eyes.

Sheen
:D

Spiral
01-24-2003, 10:08 PM
I use jacksprat and jackflash very carefully. The main really stupid thing I deleted was the Clie Demo (it takes up like 2 mb, and it's very very useless)

Unregistered
01-25-2003, 06:25 AM
I need the nr70V ROM too. I did something a lot worse than just corrupt it. I accidentally installed the ROM from my 3c into the CLie. Now the core applications all say 'Palm Powered' in the about box. Might also explain the random crashes I have been encountering.

Please help!!!

Russ

zeke87
01-25-2003, 07:23 AM
I thought ROM's were device specific. Say, for instance, both my friend and I owned a T-415, we couldn't swap ROM's without problems, or somthing like that.

russlb
01-25-2003, 07:56 AM
They are supposed to be specific.

I realized the custom backup I had was to install 4.1 on my Palm IIIc. the internal apps now say 'Palm' instead of 'Clie' and there's a general ''flakyness" where it crashes every once in a while.

Camera still works, MP3 player still works, so whatever core drivers for this hardware didn't get overwritten.

I can't find the original backup that I made to restore.

:-(

Russ

zeke87
01-25-2003, 11:36 AM
Isn't the original backup a new user name that you were supposed to create when backing up? To get it, I suggest doing a hard reset, and then, hotsync. When it asks you for the user, select the one you created for your backup files. When it completes, you run FlashWrite from launcher screen, and it should rewrite the flash. It will then tell you to finish with a hard reset.

rquinlan19
01-25-2003, 12:19 PM
how are you guys flahsing your device? I have a rom for a nr70v, but it is a single .rom file and not the 18 or so from a jacksprat backup so I'm all confused on what to do.

Spiral
01-25-2003, 09:28 PM
Jacksprat files are split into like a lot of .prc files, so that if you screw up your rom, you can sync the appropiate files and then rewrite your rom. The .rom files are for emulators.

rquinlan19
01-27-2003, 08:37 AM
thanks... i've come to figure this out, but you can't tell me that when sony builds these things they use jacksprat to flash the device. from what i gather people with palm IIIs and such can flash from a single rom file. whats the missing link here?

marc5
01-27-2003, 09:23 AM
well, my clie is screwed up too, i tried to delete some rom apps and when i clicked update, there was a fatal error reset... there after the palm sign has been flashing on and off, tried to do a hard reset (holding the power button) but everytime i click up to confirm a hard reset, it goes back to the 'palm' flashing state again... any ideas? or should i just try to let sony fix it for me?

Jewboy
01-28-2003, 12:20 AM
disconnect the battery, remove the back paenel, unplug the battery from the board.

Medcat99
01-28-2003, 12:31 PM
Messing with the ROM by using JackSprat can be bad juju if you're not careful. I was lucky and got the original memopad out and put in the NX version on my NR70V. Works perfectly now. The one problem I had is that the memos wouldn't sync on the desktop until I added back that function. I lost the categories to my memos and had to reorganize, but that was it. I've got about 200 memos and it took some time, but in the end, it was worth it to see fullscreen memos.

Personally, I wouldn't mess with the launcher at all, and I have no need for an upgraded datebook or todo list since I use Agendus. I have since deleted Jacksprat from my device and probably won't be using it again in the future. I thought about removing the Network Support file, but I'm not sure what consequences that would have. If anyone has done it, please post.

rquinlan19
01-28-2003, 12:56 PM
I removed the network support file @ one point. I dont remeber any ill effects really... For someone that doesnt use a wireless connection or anything like that its worth it to free up the space. If I remeber right when I took it out I was unable to use the ir to my t68 so i put it back on. Hope that helps

zeke87
01-28-2003, 01:48 PM
Yes, I secondrquinlan's post. Only if you're using mobile stuff.

yehuda
01-31-2003, 05:39 PM
How do you guys use jackflash with the NR/NX 70?
I can't do this with mine... I'm trying to change my ROM from Japanese to English.

Does somebody have the NX70 English ROM?

NYC150
02-01-2003, 10:49 AM
Sounds like there are two opinions on JackFlash/Sprat use - No Problem or Horror Story.

Can the 'No Problems' suggest how they kept it that way - what they didn't try - what apps were super safe?
Can the 'Horror Stories' suggest the top lessons learned, other than the obligatory 'don't ever do it.'

I'm considering Jacking an NR70V and I want to know if I should buy champagne or tranquilizers.

Pseudo Nim
02-01-2003, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by yehuda
How do you guys use jackflash with the NR/NX 70?
I can't do this with mine... I'm trying to change my ROM from Japanese to English.

Does somebody have the NX70 English ROM?

JackSprat does not support the NX series as of yet. As for NR, do NOT simply flash it to the English JackSprat backup. If your original NR ROM is not version JP02, you will screw up your touchscreen, and will be unable to reflash to anything, and your Clie will be totally dead.

So leave it in Japanese.

-pN

yehuda
02-01-2003, 12:06 PM
Thanks. I'll just wait for the next version of Jacksprat, or maybe trade/sell my NX70.

Pseudo Nim
02-01-2003, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by yehuda
Thanks. I'll just wait for the next version of Jacksprat, or maybe trade/sell my NX70.

If you end up selling it, I might be interested (only if it's Japanese, though).

-pN

daluz
10-30-2003, 06:22 PM
Anyone would happen to have a Tungsten T2 ROM backup made with Jacksprat, or could point me out someone who could help me out? My HD burn due to a power failure and I can't restore my palm! :oP Darn!

J_F
10-30-2003, 07:46 PM
could someone please send me the ROM for the NR70?

for eons I am trying to get it for my emulator

ty1ty1ca at yahoo.com

zeke87
10-30-2003, 09:19 PM
its at the sony developer site

http://www.us.sonypdadev.com/program/develop_tool/romimage_dl_eula2.html


zachary browning

J_F
10-30-2003, 09:39 PM
This is the message I am getting whenever I try: "The requested resource (/ClieDev/ObtainRomImagesnull) is not available"

I know 3 Mb is a quite big attachment (don't know the size of it once zipped) but I will be really thankfull if someone could please suggest one alternative source.

I can't download it from my own device - the operation times out at any speed I adjust the emulator/clie

Please help.

stroos
04-03-2005, 04:57 PM
Hi!

I bought on an auction Nr70V and it has happened to be German edition...
Is there any way to put English rom and have English language?
You wrote on this board that you have ROM backed up with JackSprat.
I would be really grateful for sending it to stroos83@yahoo.co.uk

Or maybe there is any other way to change language or maybe only install 2nd language pack?