So I Finally Got A Bluetooth Phone . . . .

[PBM808]

Who wants to walk me through the steps (or find the proper thread) on how i go about getting on the internet on either my Clie NZ90 or my Palm T3 PDAs.

I have a Sony-Ericsson T610 on T-Mobile. I will not be using the GPRS thing that T-mobile charges for.

My intention is to use my phone as a modem, and it will be dialing a dial-up isp number while connecting to my PDA via bluetooth.

Thanks in advance.

[madmaxmedia]

Are you sure you have internet/data enabled on your phone? I'm not sure if you can do regular dial-up over regular TMobile, they may have to enable data for you to use your dial-up.

If that is done, then you should probably first try the Sony Mobile Connection Wizard software. You can download it from the Sony Support site if you don't already have it.

Then holler back-

[PBM808]

already got the mobile connection wizard but it appears to be a setup in the event of me having t-mobile data service. i remember reading back in the Cliesource days that the phone could call up ISPs or something and being "free" although it would just tick away at your minutes. But it was a t-mobile ISP number, and since it's free t-mobile to t-mobile number, i believe the claim was that it was completely free internet usage.

[jmg_NX21]

You are on T-mobile... you should have FREE WAP on your phone / GPRS tethering (some ports blocked) for free...

[PBM808]

yeah, it takes me to some WAP sites to download ringtones, wallpapers and such when i get lost in the menus. but how would i abuse this privilege to get the real internet on my PDA? =D

[madmaxmedia]

Hmm...It should be easy once you have the right Connection and Wireless service set up on your CLIE. Did you search for T-Mobile bluetooth or anything like that?

[PBM808]

i have no problem connecting my PDAs with my cell phone. i would prefer to use my T3 (landscape =D) for net surfing since i've been carrying that around daily instead of my BrickNZ90.

[sparkymcc]

I've been trying to do the same (dial up ISP) with my T68i using Rogers/AT&T and haven't has any luck. I can get the phone to dial, but for some reason the connection is dropped almost instantaneously as the phone starts to redial while my NZ90 is still "connecting". It certainly works with GPRS, however the prices in Canada are a bit much for a casual user who's happy to devote a few minutes of airtime that have been paid for anyway.

I'm thinking that the problem is in my login script somewhere, as the phone is not "waiting" for the clie to connect - I'm not sure how to change this :confused:

Cheers,

MM

[ASC]

Hi PBM808

Firstly turn on Bluetooth (phone and NZ) and pair the NZ with the t610 entering a code of your choice when prompted.

Then on your NZ90 under preferences go to Connections and click on the new button,
In the name field I suggest you call the connection T610.
In the connect to field select MODEM.
In the Via field select BLUETOOTH
In the device field select T610 (or whatever you have called your NZ/T610 Bluetooth pairing)
Dialing = TouchTone
Volume = whatever suits
Click on details and select the speeed you like
Flow Control = Automatic
Init String = leave blank

Next you need to setup a Network connection on the NZ which holds the dial-up info for your ISP. So on the NZ select Preferences, Network and under Service choose an exisitng connection if that fits your dial up (AT&T, Compuserve etc) or choose UNTITLED

Rename Untitled to something reflecting your ISP
In User Name you need to enter your Log in account details given to you by your ISP

Password = your supplied password from your ISP
Connection = T610 (or whatever you have called your NZ/T610 Bluetooth pairing)
Phone = dial-up number for your ISP
Then click on details and select PPP in the Connection type
Idle time out = never
Query DNS = Yes (or tick actually)
IP address tick for Automatic
Click on script and select END

That should be it and you can test the connection from Preferences/Netwrok by clicking on connect, but make sure Bluetooth is switched on for your NZ and T610.

The only thing you need to check with your ISP is that thay still accept slow connections as the modem part of your phone will probably be 9600 baud. Some ISP's have a different dial-up number for a slow connections.

Good luck

[PBM808]

thanks a ton. i will try that out soon.
as for the phone part, will that just be billed as minutes used? or will it be for data transfered? cause i don't have the data plan from tmobile.

[jmg_NX21]

So you can or cannot tether? And why use dial up (CSD/minutes) vs GPRS (should be a faster connection)?

[renaissance guy]

I'm using a Tmobile T610 to connect my Zire 72 to the internet via dialup ISP. Here's what I did, if my memory serves me (and should be the same as with your T|3):

In Preferences\Bluetooth, click "Setup Devices." (If you haven't yet, make sure your Cell Phone is listed as a trusted device, which it sounds like you've done already.)

From here, click "Phone Setup" then "Dial Up to ISP." Click "next",

tell it you do not have a high-speed data service, click "next"

It will tell you that you need to enter the settings provided by your ISP, click "next"

Enter the number you're dialing up to, your username, password, and click "next"

It should tell you that you've successfully set up your dialup account, click "done"

You will be back in your Bluetooth screen. Under the "Network Service" dropdown, make sure "Dial-up to ISP" is selected and Bluetooth is on (and also your Cell Phone's Bluetooth is on) and click "connect." Your T|3 will pop up a dialogue box saying it's connecting, and when it's finished it will say you are connected.

Welcome to mobile internet ;)

[renaissance guy]

thanks a ton. i will try that out soon.
as for the phone part, will that just be billed as minutes used? or will it be for data transfered? cause i don't have the data plan from tmobile.

To answer this part, you will be billed for minutes used if you dial-up to an ISP using a BT phone and Tmobile

[Vidge]

I am using the free GPRS provided my T-Mobile on my T610 and my T3. No dialup here. And it doesn't count against my minutes. There's no need to use dialup at all. All of the T-Mobile accounts have free GPRS. You just have to make sure that you have data enabled on your account in order for it to work. (I actually had the $19.99 unlimited plan and turned it off in favor of the free service.) You cannot browse secure sites, however.

I don't know if the screens are the same but here is what I have:

1. Under Connection
- Name - I have T610
- Connect to - Phone
- Via - Bluetooth
- Device - T610
- Model - Sone-E T610
Under details:
- Speed - 57,600 bps
- Init String - &FV1E0X1

2. Under Network
- Service - I named mine Free GPRS
- User name - blank
- Password - blank
- Connection - T610
- Phone - *99***1#
Under details:
Connection type - PPP
Idle timeout - 1 Minute
Query DNS - checked
IP address - checked automatic

Hope that helps!

[PBM808]

And why use dial up (CSD/minutes) vs GPRS (should be a faster connection)?
Because Minutes are free if i use internet at night or on weekends when i'm usually out. as for GPRS, i think tmobile has a plan that charges like $4.99 a month for that.

[jmg_NX21]

But you say you have WAP access on your phone? Then tethering should be a breeze with the correct settings.

Don't be fooled, the t-zones is 4.99 but YOU HAVE gprs for free if you tether... cust service will not tell yout his BUT it has been discovered by t-mobile users on howardforums.com

These may be it:
t-mobile?
os5 bt:
1. Install OS5 drivers for Bluetooth MS. Get them from the Sony support UK site
2. Prefs>Connection. Create new connection: Connect To: Local Network, Via: Bluetooth, Device: searches for phone and finds it. Speed:57k, Flow Ctrl: Auto
3. Prefs>Network. Create new Tmobile connection: Username: a, Password: a, Connection: bluetooth (from the connection you created).
4. Tap Details: Connec Type: PPP, Idle: three minutes, Query DNS: checked, IP Address: Checked.
5. Tap Script:
Send: at+cgdcont=1,"ip","wap.voicestream.
com"
Send CR:
Send: atd*99***1#
Send CR:
Wait For: CONNECT
End:

[PBM808]

i freakin love you man!

so this tmobile thing is totally free? is there any limit or restrictions on my using it?
and BTW- what's the speed of the connection? supposedly 56K but the data must be hindered by the bluetooth transfer. idk really . . . . only page i can load decently is google.com/palm, but that's fine with me :D

[jmg_NX21]

SO it did work? Cool. I like to collect settings in case others Don't know how to take advantage of their cell phone service (I thought of changing to t-mobile because if this free wap).

Yes there are some restrictions: Various ports are closed, I think https, ftp, BUT I am not certain since I am NOT on T-mobile; perhaps don't abuse of it but I can't say (check out the t-mobile forum in howardforums.com)

You can probably UP the speed if you want... it is GPRS, whatever data transfer rate it is...

GLAD to help... now to help Gao... he still can't figure out Cingular... o_O

[PBM808]

OR you can still help me and figure out why the same settings are not working on my Palm T3 . . . . -.-

[renaissance guy]

jmg_NX21, you ROCK.

I'm so glad I ended up going with Tmobile :)

[jmg_NX21]

What did they work on?

[Vidge]

OR you can still help me and figure out why the same settings are not working on my Palm T3 . . . . -.-

I posted the T3 settings on the previous page. They work just fine with my T3/T610.

[PBM808]

I posted the T3 settings on the previous page. They work just fine with my T3/T610.
ahh. thanks. i replied to the guy before you and didn't read yours. In the network, details, and script, can you describe what you have? i have this from a previous attempt under the settings i used for my NZ90:

Send: at+cgdcont=1,"ip","wap.voicestream.com"
Send CR:
Send:atd*99***1#
etc. . . . .

[PBM808]

ok, i put the scripting at
End:
and it seems to be working now. what about webpro settings? i disabled caching on my NZ90 cause i mainly visit forum sites where info constantly changes and i turn images off so there isn't really anything to cache. but webpro doesn't allow cache disabling. do you guys use the webpro proxy? i guess it formats pages to show the text part only making it load faster or something.

[PBM808]

Man, i also got internet on my laptop through my bluetooth cellphone. and it's getting 115Kbps O.O

freakin awesome.

[renaissance guy]

for me it worked on a Z 72 and S-E T610 on Tmobile

[ErynnM]

But you say you have WAP access on your phone? Then tethering should be a breeze with the correct settings.

Don't be fooled, the t-zones is 4.99 but YOU HAVE gprs for free if you tether... cust service will not tell yout his BUT it has been discovered by t-mobile users on howardforums.com

These may be it:
t-mobile?
os5 bt:
1. Install OS5 drivers for Bluetooth MS. Get them from the Sony support UK site
2. Prefs>Connection. Create new connection: Connect To: Local Network, Via: Bluetooth, Device: searches for phone and finds it. Speed:57k, Flow Ctrl: Auto
3. Prefs>Network. Create new Tmobile connection: Username: a, Password: a, Connection: bluetooth (from the connection you created).
4. Tap Details: Connec Type: PPP, Idle: three minutes, Query DNS: checked, IP Address: Checked.
5. Tap Script:
Send: at+cgdcont=1,"ip","wap.voicestream.
com"
Send CR:
Send: atd*99***1#
Send CR:
Wait For: CONNECT
End:

This worked soooo well. Thank you sooo much!!!

[NiTeSHiFT]

But you say you have WAP access on your phone?
os5 bt:
2. Prefs>Connection. Create new connection: Connect To: Local Network, Via: Bluetooth, Device: searches for phone and finds it. Speed:57k, Flow Ctrl: Auto
3. Prefs>Network. Create new Tmobile connection: Username: a, Password: a, Connection: bluetooth (from the connection you created).
4. Tap Details: Connec Type: PPP, Idle: three minutes, Query DNS: checked, IP Address: Checked.
5. Tap Script:
Send: at+cgdcont=1,"ip","wap.voicestream.
com"
Send CR:
Send: atd*99***1#
Send CR:
Wait For: CONNECT
End:

OK, used the above settings, changed wap.voicestream.com to wap.viaginterkom.de for o2 germany wap flatrate, connect works but no browser works.
blazer doesn want to open anything, wap universe causes a fatal error and webpro always tells me there's no dns server until i add my default gateway as a proxy. that is 195.182.114.52 Port is 8080 for WAP 2.0 and Web-Support and 9120 for WAP 1.0. NONE OF THEM WORK.

I have searched for a solution for several weeks now and woul REALLY appriciate any ideas.

oh, btw, i have a nokia 6600 with newest firmware. on some pages i found out that i have to use *99# instead of *99***1# but both seem to work (at least the connection get's established).

HELP :-(

[NiTeSHiFT]

oh, btw, i have a nokia 6600 with newest firmware. on some pages i found out that i have to use *99# instead of *99***1# but both seem to work (at least the connection get's established).
HELP :-(

just found this post:
http://www.1src.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70198

well, mine is not THAT new. will check my nokia shop tomorrow and let them update it.

regards,
chris

[NiTeSHiFT]

well, mine is not THAT new. will check my nokia shop tomorrow and let them update it.


OK, now it's updated but nothing more morks. the same as before besides the thing that blazer now tells me "connecting" afterwards it sais "negotiating" and after 30 seconds "timed out" error appears.

before the update it told me connecting and nothing more.

i tried the gateway/proxy of my provider for wap 2.0 and the one for wap 1.0/1.1
with wap 2.0 the above described happens, with wap 1.0/1.1 (which blazer only supports) it sais "cannot find proxy" although the adress and port is right (same adress but port 9201 instead of 8080).

btw, tried blazer, wap universe, wapman and webpro 3.0a. what else can i do?

[tehuti]

I was unable to find the the needed driver on the sony uk site; can anyone please post a link?

[Ebookslist]

What did they work on?