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khad_o
07-20-2004, 12:18 AM
id like to know how you guys allocate your files, apps, etc. where do you keep them because there are issues regarding memory space and so on. its confusing there seems to be many options and id like to know your opinions and views and where you allocate them. there is aliasExt on IM, MS in program files, and what is the launcher file for? id really appreciate your help. :D

thanks

drchandra
07-20-2004, 01:20 AM
Earlier I was allocating the files manually, and was transferring the files to memory stick to save my RAM, but it was atime consuming and sometimes confusing process. Then I was Advised Z launcher on this forum for managing your files.
After installing it, you do not have to worry about AliasEXt or Launcher folder. You just tap the app icon, and a context menu opens, asking you whether to move it to memory stick or not. It is that simple, no more remembering different folders and their contents. Z launcher does it for you.

djl
07-20-2004, 04:10 AM
The Palm OS was designed to store and run applications from RAM. Today, we can store applications on a flash device (Internal Media or MemoryStick), but the files are still temporarily copied to RAM when they are run, then copied back to flash and deleted from RAM when closed. This is true whether you use /Palm/Launcher/, AliastExt or a third party launcher.

An application that is placed in the /Palm/Launcher/ directory will not appear in any of the RAM "categories", instead it appears in a separate category corresponding to the name of the flash device, such as "Int Media" or whatever name you have given your MemoryStick. This is useful for applications which are installed on removeable cards (MemorySticks) because they are visible _only_ when the MemoryStick is installed. For example, I have a separate MemoryStick for backups, named "Backup", and the BackupMan application appears only when that card is inserted.

AliasExt, like Zlauncher etc, is a refinement which allows you to store an application on flash but include the icon in a RAM category. Otherwise, it's pretty much the same as using the /Palm/Launcher/ feature. (AliasExt seems to be more reliable than Launcher at deleting applications from RAM when it is done, but this may be coincidence based on the specific programs I have chosen to install with each method.)


To begin I install each new application in RAM for several days. If it runs correctly and is useful I try copying the main .prc file to /Palm/Programs/AliasExt/UniqueFolder/ and perform a soft reset. If the application runs well from there I may copy some related files into the same folder, and move them back to RAM if it causes the program to fail. However, I leave any utility application which performs "background" functions in RAM. Also, I have had best results with complex applications, such as Documents To Go, by installing part in RAM and part via AliasExt.

dennis

khad_o
07-20-2004, 10:18 AM
thanks dennis appreciate your input. so could you or anybody tell me examples of what files you do and do not put in the aliasExt/IM/MS? example like you said you put docs2go on IM and so on. similarly i do that as well if i wanted to test an app i temporarily store it to ram if i find it useful i store to IM. my question is i moved every app to internal media coz i keep getting low memory warning, system memory 7.0MB(4.4 free), program memory 16MB(6.5free), theres this app (not sure might just be data) that keeps reapearing in RAM called wordview+prc. please need more on info on this.

see im in this situation, ive moved most of my apps in IM folder under aliasExt and created subfolders. sometimes i test out new apps and put it into RAM. if i like it i put into IM and soft reset. but when i want to access clie viewer it wont open coz of lack of memory. which forced me to delete some apps from IM. unfortunately deleting from IM created all sorts of problems as "empty" icons still appear sometimes even creating duplicates. i often resort to hard resets and lose all kinds of info and have to hotsync back. is there any other way of deleting these files IM. coz maybe what im doing is wrong. i still have way lots of space on IM and intend to minimise use of handheld memory.

please help. appreciate all the help i can get

djl
07-20-2004, 12:14 PM
1) When you install an application file (.prc file) in the /Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ folder, and then perform a soft reset, an "alias" of that application is created in RAM. It has a name which starts with an asterisk, such as *Photo Editor. This is the file which generates the icon, and it is created as a "read only" file. This means you cannot delete the file unless you have a tool which allows you to remove the "read only" attribute. I use "File Man" from Bits 'n Bolts software, but there are many such tools available. You do not need to perform a hard reset.

2) << clie viewer it wont open coz of lack of memory. which forced me to delete some apps from IM>>

Deleting files from InternalMedia does not create more free RAM. However, I believe this problem is actually caused by having too many files in the AliasExt folder. To work around this create a separate sub-folder for each application or, in the case of a complex application like Documents to Go, create a separate sub-folder for each component. See example below.

3) "Wordview+" is the Documents-to-Go word processor module. The .prc file is named "WordToGo.prc", but during installation it changes its name.

4) This is how I have setup Documents-to-Go. This is ceratinly not the only setup which will work, but it is stable for me...

In Handheld RAM I have these files (some of these may be created when the program is run, rather than part of the original installation)...
DocsToGo.prc
DocsToGo.DB
DSDTGP
DSLib
DxtgTempDB
SheetToGoClipboard
WTG5Clipboard.pbd

On Internal Media I have these files. Notice that I have created separate folders for most DTG components...

/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/DTG/
DGraphConverter.prc
/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/DTG Attach/
DXTGAttachmentPlugin.prc
/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/DTG Sheet/
SheetToGo.prc
/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/DTG Sheet Convert/
SS_P2P.prc
/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/DTG Word/
WordToGo.prc
WTGFontPackage.pbd
/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/DTG Word Convert/
WP_P2P.prc

dennis

khad_o
07-21-2004, 12:16 PM
thanks dennis will try:D