Is there a better audio player for NX Clie?

[ragermac]

I just purchased the NX70 and I am loving it. But the audio player is boring. Is there a player that supports visuals or something?

[Rick 098]

We all wish

[xlr8]

Why cant someone make one that has visuals, ID3 V2 tags (the ones with album art, lyrics, notes, etc) and more features that a PC audio player has. It would be the only software i definately would buy (as opposed to sharewaring)

Can someone take up the challenge?

[yOyOYoo]

I think it is because sony doesn't make their audio dsp information open source.

Palm TT on the other hand has 3 different audio player options and aeroplayer looks awesome!

I think a while back someone here posted information about a AUDOPLAYER or something which was a different audio player for the NR series, so maybe it's possible?

[skrandel]

OK. I'm confused. :confused:

Why would you want a better player? The AudioPlayer plays the songs and adjusts the volume and........

Given the VERY limited battery life on the Clie, any extra features and you'd be lucky to get 2 hours of play time.

What are you hoping to be looking at?

[pharmnatr]

Isn't an MP3 player supposed to play music? If it does that then thats fine with me. Who wants to listen to MP3s and stand there looking at the screen anyway?

[contempt]

Well the previous version (N760) of the audio player had visuals, two different types if I remember correctly. I'm curious why Sony removed them.

Also, if someone really wanted, would it be possible to run the older version of the audio player? Not that I would want that, since it is a battery drain. But just as an option for
xlr8.

[T1000X]

Actually, I'd rather have the ability to chose my playlist on the OS5 devices AudioPlayer then some silly visualization on an OS4 device. That's my two and a half cents.

[timw_de]

Actually, I'd rather have the ability to chose my playlist on the OS5 devices AudioPlayer then some silly visualization on an OS4 device. That's my two and a half cents.

I'll second that , I normally switch the screen off while I'm playing music anyway, so what's the point of flashing displays ?

[Eclipse]

Its not that you would use the visualizations, its that you could :)

[timw_de]

Its not that you would use the visualizations, its that you could

you are right of course, some kind of plugin thing (like winamp uses)

[swan2925]

In honor, I thought Audio Player is the best Audio Player for my CLIE.
However, now come out that, the CF driver won't work with the Audio Player...
So... I now simply want a 3rd party one... but seems to be impossible - v . v -

[sonyslave]

Sony is always trying to cover their ***.

Build in a CF slot but handicap it to sell more memory sticks.

Include an MP3 player that cannot play MP3s encoded at high bit rates, so that Sony Records doesn't feel threatened. Close off options for customer to upgrade to a better MP3 player

Sony should learn to put the customer first.

Oh well, no one stays on top forever.

[xlr8]

Originally posted by Eclipse
Its not that you would use the visualizations, its that you could :)

Exactly. I wouldnt use the visuals much because its in my pocket but it seems they coulda left it in for an 'upgrade'. What i really want (and would be useful):

1) EQUALISER!!
2) Easier to create playlists (as well as shuffle staying on if u exit and power off, perhaps to change the order til u do it again)
2) ID3 V2 tags so we can have full info
3) Ability to edit tags

And some more, but thats the main ones, doubt it would happen.

And T1000X, you can choose the playlist you want by tapping on 'continue' til it says 'program play' then tap icon with a doc and a music note in the top right (3rd from the right). I also believe it uses m3u playlists. Or is this not what you meant?

[mjhamilton]

My audio player play audio......... it does this very, very well in both MP3 and ATRAC3 formats.........surely that is enough??....... if I want video as well I will use my TV + DVD player...........

From experience if you focus on one item you can do it very well... if you focus on too many items (most of them being irrelivant) you end up with a mediocre music playing applet with lots of extra 'padding' that is not required,.....

I'd rather it stayed as it is and Sony concentrate on making the audio quality the priority.... :>

[Eclipse]

Ive never really heard of a audio player effecting the quality of the mp3 (except mabey pre-clie handhelds). I dont think adding a plugin option/SDK would detrementally effect the sound quality. Definatly an equalizer is a must (this bit of "padding" would only improve sound quality), and it would be wonderfull if OGG was supported. WMA would be nice, but i understand the copy protection/roalties/legal issues.

[airodus]

Well new visuals would be nice. I often have my clie mounted in my car playing mp3s through the car's stereo system. It lights up nicely, but the default skin is ugly. It'd be nice to have something like aeroplayer. I don't care about battery life since I have a car charger.

Also, i want to be able to make playlists. Absolutely ludicrous that there is no support for them. And it'd be nice if it weren't so picky about bitrate and stuff. Probably 1/4 of my mp3s I had to redownload to find versions that would work on my clie.

Ah well... I have always said that Sony sucks. It's a shame that they make nice palm pilots. I would've paid $100 more for my clie if some other manufacturer made it. And I probably would have saved that much on the cost of memory sticks vs CF or SD cards.

[cyclone]

Yes, I'd love if it could play lower bitrate files - I often listen to recordings of radio broadcasts which are a 24KHz and 22kbits or something, it takes forever to reencode them at a higher rate and it takes far more space.

[erobinson]

What about a player that supports Ogg Vorbis? Bitrate for bitrate, Ogg files are smaller.

Open source is the way to go.

[muldermx]

Wma!

[Homie_S]

I'm not entirely pleased with the internal audioplayer, simply because it can't support some bitrates and formats. Would it be tons more effort to give it the ability to do this? It just doesn't make sense to me...

[kusumo]

Here's my wish list for Clie Audioplayer:
- Equalizer
- Mutliple playlist
- support lower bitrates
- support multiple formats is good...but most of my files are in MP3...so don't really care much

Visualition doesn't seem to be of any use....we shut down the screen all the time anyway.

[n2ifp]

Your lucky if you still see MP3's let alone anything else besides Sony's ATRAC3 proprietary format! Maybe Palm will listen , Sony sure won't :(

[brahamt]

And VBR support. The NR can do this.

[michael1960]

I want lower bitrates! I don't need 96kbps when I want to listen to audiobooks or recorded classes. :cool:

[muldermx]

whats the lowest bit rate the nx can play?
i remember my old 760 played low bit rates

[archangel]

Originally posted by muldermx
whats the lowest bit rate the nx can play?
i remember my old 760 played low bit rates


The NX can go as low as 32kbps. Problem is when people convert MP3s that low they usually lower the file below 44.1kHz.

As long as you make the file 32kbps and 44.1kHz it will play fine on the NX. If it ends up 32kbps and 22kHz it won't play.

[muldermx]

thats reasonable

[JediLuke]

I really wish the audio player could play other formats, such as wma or ogg files...it would make much more room for songs. I guess Microsoft really does control everything to do with computers. (no media player for palms):confused:

[n2ifp]

There are media players for Palms, just not for Sony.

[j888]

Didn't a ClieSource member once develop an MP3 player in hi-res+ screen, and ID3 tag reader? I don't think it ever got out of beta - and in the end he may have abandoned the project, given that no one seems to have referred to it. I didn't have an MP3 Clie at the time, so I only glanced at the threads, but ...

I remember another member, who was a keen beta tester, affectionately referred to it as 'Audo Player' - because the guy who developed it did a typo in the subject of one of his initial annoucement posts and spelt 'Audio' as 'Audo'. Something like that anyway.

I also remember seeing a screen shot - I recall it had a total black background, and very small hi-res fonts.

Unfortunately, this was before the major forum crash - so I don't think it's in the search archives any more.

Anyone else remember this? I really hope I didn't imagine all those threads! Or have I mixed it up with something else?

Thanks!

[Rabidrodents]

http://ajvmp3.paradise.net.nz/

[Rabidrodents]

www.nybble.net/id3

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by Rabidrodents
http://ajvmp3.paradise.net.nz/

It's not OS5 ready yet according to the site.

[Rabidrodents]

Oh.. Woopsie =O

[skorpiankh]

What about MP3 Pro? Great quality at low bitrates and the file sizes are half of an equivalent MP3!

[RO-Cl]

I'm with those who think the visuals would be extraneous - especially with the battery life limits.

The absence of multiple playlist support is, for me, the single biggest weakness in the Audio Player. I have a 1 GB CF card that I'm filling with MP-3s - but no real way to manage the music for playback.

[akmartin]

Sounds like we need some community incentive to get some clever developer out there to figure this out. It got us Compact Flash support....

[jim_medeiros]

I would certainly vote for at least have an equalizer function. and easier shuffling/programming capabilities

[MarianoSF]

Count my vote as well.

[n2ifp]

BTW, how much are you guys willing to pay for a better Audio Player??

[lal2707]

As with other threads on appls that would make the Clie even better, I would be willing to pay as long as it gave the features we are all after. At the end of the day it will all depend on how willing Sony are to letting developers have APIs access - always comes down to this. Gievn the AudioPlayer that is shipped with Clie is free, it not that bad. Beats not having any at all!

[rclodfelter]

Larry - It's always about the money ;+)

I would pay $15.00

[slippy4twenty]

I'd easily pay 20-30. Especially if it let me use the clie more like a low end Ipod (with shitty battery life by comparison).

Visuals would be nice mounted in the car, but unneeded. You can get a few nice morphing flash files (virtualom.com untested on clie) or maybe some kinoma clips if you really wanted visuals. I'd MUCH prefer more WiFi control......

[j888]

Yes! This is the app I was referring to (it has the black background and is hi-res+). Why aren't people giving this a shot? Granted it's in alpha ....

Anyone know what happened to the developer? Anyone give it a shot? Feedback?

Thanks

EDIT: I just realised that I'm browsing the NX forum ... I'm an NR user! And, of course, the NX is OS5 ...

Originally posted by Rabidrodents
http://ajvmp3.paradise.net.nz/

[Otakusensei]

It's an OK app but it still doesn't beat the Audio player that came with my NR70V.