1src Forums - RifleSlugs HiRes/OS5 in the works!

jpolz

01-17-2003, 07:32 AM

I emailed the support staff asking if/when RifleSlugs will be released in a HiRes/OS5 version. They replied very promptly stating that it was "in progress" and would be ready shortly. This is good news, hopefully it will support CLIE sound, as the little phrases in the game are half the fun! Now all we need is a HiRes/OS5 version of Siberian Strike!

Tixx

01-17-2003, 08:39 AM

Can't wait for this one:)

spradlinb

01-17-2003, 09:59 AM

It should be fun... but then the original "Worms" designers are porting a version for Palm OS in the near future too, so it's going to be difficult to decide which one gets my money. Of course, I could always get both! :)

Cheers.

Tixx

01-17-2003, 10:17 AM

Do you have a link for screen shots or anything?
Thanks:)

spradlinb

01-17-2003, 10:31 AM

I haven't found any screen shots for the Palm OS version yet, just some mock-up versions they had at the time they put out the press release on it... I had the links in an older thread here, but that's obviously been lost now... It's being developed with the blessing of Team 17 though, so it should look and play like the ones on a PC. The news release said it would include all the weapons from the Worms: Armageddon series on the PC, so it will definitely be hard to top!

Cheers.

Tixx

01-17-2003, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by spradlinb
I haven't found any screen shots for the Palm OS version yet, just some mock-up versions they had at the time they put out the press release on it... I had the links in an older thread here, but that's obviously been lost now... It's being developed with the blessing of Team 17 though, so it should look and play like the ones on a PC. The news release said it would include all the weapons from the Worms: Armageddon series on the PC, so it will definitely be hard to top!

Cheers.

Cool:)

Tixx

01-17-2003, 10:38 AM

http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=4304

http://www.hexacto.com/news.php?nwid=32

Zork

01-17-2003, 11:36 AM

spradlinb, not the original Womrs designers. That would be Team 17. Its ported by Hexacto and thos folks dont know how to develop for Palm at all (they are Windows developers and such folks dont know how to really develop cause of all their MFC, COM, NET chaos. Look at their LoRes only releases for PalmOS). So Rifle Slugs is the one to go for, cause its the real Palm version of Worms.

spradlinb

01-17-2003, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Zork
spradlinb, not the original Womrs designers. That would be Team 17. Its ported by Hexacto and thos folks dont know how to develop for Palm at all (they are Windows developers and such folks dont know how to really develop cause of all their MFC, COM, NET chaos. Look at their LoRes only releases for PalmOS). So Rifle Slugs is the one to go for, cause its the real Palm version of Worms.

That's what I said... reread my post. It's being made with Team 17's blessing, I didn't say being made by them :).

I also don't like to discount a program that hasn't even been released yet, no matter what previous programs have been like. The Hexacto programmers that worked on earlier Palm OS programs may not even be the same people that end up working on Worms. The "real" Palm version of Worms still has to be made, so I'll hold off on saying which is better until they're both available.

Cheers.

Zork

01-17-2003, 12:14 PM

Its MS supporter Hexacto vs. Paragon, a Palm only company. So chances are minimal that Hexacto wil come out with a better version.
IMHO thos Hexacto losers surely will release even a slow paced game like Worms only for Palm OS 5 cause of the usual brain dead "OS 4 devices not fast enough" stuff (beside that Worms were developed for the 7 MHz 68k Amiga with the same 320 * 240 solution and will therefor run on any Clie w/o any prob at all).

spradlinb

01-17-2003, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Zork
Its MS supporter Hexacto vs. Paragon, a Palm only company. So chances are minimal that Hexacto wil come out with a better version.
IMHO thos Hexacto losers surely will release even a slow paced game like Worms only for Palm OS 5 cause of the usual brain dead "OS 4 devices not fast enough" stuff (beside that Worms were developed for the 7 MHz 68k Amiga with the same 320 * 240 solution and will therefor run on any Clie w/o any prob at all).

Only time will tell ;)

Cheers.

iebnn

01-17-2003, 05:43 PM

Zork

01-18-2003, 03:11 AM

iebnn, its more or less the same game which doesnt need anything more then a 18 MHz 68k machine. Especially if it offers graphics accelerators like the one inside the Clie. So doing such a game on the OS 4 devices aint any prob at all. But thos are PC developers, so im sure that they cant handle the power of OS 4 devices at all and come up with the usual brain dead "they arent fast enough stuff".
One funny example of PC developers doin stuff is Shanghai Pocket. The Palm OS version has 33 % more screen size and they show it on their site as if the PPC version has a better resolution :) (take a look at their web site).

gothicaleigh

01-18-2003, 08:03 PM

I want Worms/RifleSlugs. It doesn't matter what they call it, or who builds it, if it plays like my Worms2 game, I'll buy it. Very enjoyable game. It would be great to be able to do battle over IR.

Will they include all the wacky voices?

iebnn

01-19-2003, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Zork
iebnn, its more or less the same game which doesnt need anything more then a 18 MHz 68k machine. Especially if it offers graphics accelerators like the one inside the Clie. So doing such a game on the OS 4 devices aint any prob at all. But thos are PC developers, so im sure that they cant handle the power of OS 4 devices at all and come up with the usual brain dead "they arent fast enough stuff".
One funny example of PC developers doin stuff is Shanghai Pocket. The Palm OS version has 33 % more screen size and they show it on their site as if the PPC version has a better resolution :) (take a look at their web site).

The newer Worms games DEFINITELY consume much more processor power than the original Worms game. Gameplay-wise, they may be very similar (which is half-true.... the ninja rope in Worms 2+ REALLY changes the game a lot), but I think you'll find that the new ones won't run nearly as well (or at all) on an old computer that is capable of running the original Worms and not much more than that.

Zork

01-19-2003, 05:58 PM

iebnn, its just more resources wasted, but the gameplay stayed beside a few new features the same. So if the developer knows what he does, Worms wont be any prob on any Palm.

iebnn

01-19-2003, 06:30 PM

Zork, the original Worms would't be any problem on any Palm, but Worms 2+ / World Party would NOT run on a 33Mhz Palm.

cbenfey

01-25-2003, 08:45 AM

I purchased rifleslugs 2 weeks ago and I'd have to say it's the best game on the clie thus far! The other day, however, I had to reset my OS and as a result all of the registration numbers I had for my programs were reset as well. I had most of them written down but unfortunately my rifleslugs serial was not. I plan to e-mail the creators but if anyone who may have it could e-mail it to me that would likely be much faster. Thanks very much.
cbenfey@hotmail.com

spradlinb

01-25-2003, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by cbenfey
I purchased rifleslugs 2 weeks ago and I'd have to say it's the best game on the clie thus far! The other day, however, I had to reset my OS and as a result all of the registration numbers I had for my programs were reset as well. I had most of them written down but unfortunately my rifleslugs serial was not. I plan to e-mail the creators but if anyone who may have it could e-mail it to me that would likely be much faster. Thanks very much.
cbenfey@hotmail.com

Nice try, but not going to happen... besides, the codes are generated based on your HotSync username, so anyone else's wouldn't work for you anyway. Just email Paragon about it and they can check their records for you. They've been quite responsive to emails that I've sent them before.

Cheers.

Zork

01-25-2003, 10:23 AM

iebnn worms world party is just the original game engie a little enhanced. It plays fine on a single threading, single tasking machine w/o the smallest prob. It just depends if the developer knows what he is doing.
Weve seen far more complex games with smooth and fast HiRes graphx.

cbenfey

01-25-2003, 04:10 PM

thanks spradlinb, they got back to me already so i don't need it anymore.
cheers

hansschmucker

01-27-2003, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by iebnn

The newer Worms games DEFINITELY consume much more processor power than the original Worms game. Gameplay-wise, they may be very similar (which is half-true.... the ninja rope in Worms 2+ REALLY changes the game a lot), but I think you'll find that the new ones won't run nearly as well (or at all) on an old computer that is capable of running the original Worms and not much more than that.

Sorry to say that, but the original worms had a ninja rope as well and about the gfx. I guess it's just a personal matter but I never liked the cute look og Worms 2+: The Lemmings look of Worms1 just felt more classy and also gave you a much better overview. Alos level editing for Worms1 was a dream. About Speed: A 33Mhz processor could easily handle a 160x160 Worms2, probably even 320x320 as long as you get rid of transparent water and 4+ layer effects, something probably noone would notice anyway.

Zork

01-28-2003, 04:10 PM

hansschmucker, transparent water want be the real prob (check the famous Clie demo bout transparency and even mirroring effects). Perhaps 4 level paralax scrolling wont be that easy, but again : paralax scrolling isnt really new and games since the C64 support paralax scrolling (Shadow of the Beast for the Amiga even offered 6 level paralx scrolling then - k, most of this effects were done by Paula (if that were the "GPU"), but the CPU only run with 7.14 MHz)).
So its mainly a matter of how familiar the developer is with developing for the according platform.

spradlinb

02-06-2003, 03:12 PM

I see that CliePlanet lists the RifleSlugs beta being tested as only working on OS 5 machines... which means that it will only work on the NX/NZ Clies when it is released... anyone else know whether this hi-res version will be for OS 5 only or if it will work on OS 4.x as well? I hate to rely just on info from CliePlanet's reports, so I wondered if any of the beta testers out there were testing on other Clies, or if it really is restricted to OS 5.

If it's an OS 5 only program, that's going to leave quite a few Clie owners out of the loop :(.

Cheers.

Ivos

02-06-2003, 03:23 PM

I'm testing it on my NR70V right now, and it doesn't look good.....It's works, that mean that it starts... I can't play it :(

bemick

02-06-2003, 03:31 PM

I've got the beta and it runs fine on my NR70V

spradlinb

02-06-2003, 03:47 PM

Well, at least it looks like they're making the game for OS 4 Clies as well... another story CliePlanet either got wrong or is mis-reporting... maybe they meant that an additional version of RifleSlugs was being tested for OS 5. He made it sound like the only hi-res version they would release would just work on OS 5. It looks like a great game, can't wait to try it out! :)

Cheers.

cliekid

02-08-2003, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by spradlinb
I see that CliePlanet lists the RifleSlugs beta being tested as only working on OS 5 machines... which means that it will only work on the NX/NZ Clies when it is released... anyone else know whether this hi-res version will be for OS 5 only or if it will work on OS 4.x as well?.

CliePlanet is wrong yo. I am a beta tester and it works fine on my clie T615. This new version will work on OS5 and Hires 4.x Devices.

OcellNuri

02-08-2003, 12:20 PM

I'm beta testing it on my NX70V. It runs soo smooth. The hires looks pretty good. Running in Hires+ you dont' have to zoom out to see what's going on. I would love to see a landscape mode though. I'll be sending in my testing report in a few days and landscape mode will most deff be one of the features I'm going to request. This is a big step up from the first version though... very impressive.

Narniahopper

02-08-2003, 01:03 PM

Looks great on my NR as well. Not that I've mastered the gameplay or anything, but it does look great.

JC2K

02-08-2003, 07:21 PM

I'm running the beta on my 665 and can't get any sounds to play. Anyone know how to get them to play? The email mentions "Do you like sounds?" ... With the language barrier, I'm not sure if they are asking if we would like to have sounds or if we like the sounds that are supposed to be there.

Anyone getting any sounds?

Also, can anyone get into the "weapons" area from the main menu? Mine just refreshes that screen and goes nowhere.

I've already sent in my first report with these issue mentioned, but wanted to inquire here as well.

Thanks!

Trp

02-08-2003, 08:40 PM

No sound (exept a couple of generic beeps from time to time) and i can not access the weapons area. But its a beta, so its expected.

JC2K

02-08-2003, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by Trp
No sound (exept a couple of generic beeps from time to time) and i can not access the weapons area. But its a beta, so its expected.

Thanks for the info ... glad it wasn't just me. :)

I get a fatal exception requiring a soft reset very frequently (almost once per round). I think I've finished about 5 rounds since installing it.

Looks much nicer though :)

GoldenTiger

02-08-2003, 09:34 PM

Where to download?

IlLuSiOnS

02-08-2003, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by GoldenTiger
Where to download?
Ppl were told not distro by the devs so I don't know if anyone is willing to share...

GoldenTiger

02-13-2003, 08:23 PM

I am in the beta... I got it. Can't say anything much because of NDA, but it is GREAT. The graphics are sharp and the gameplay is snappy/responsive. Everyone's going to be VERY impressed when it's done...