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alee0729
06-26-2004, 07:21 PM
I just received a very disturbing email.

Many may remember my saga last year with the Tungsten C changing MAC addresses, posted on PDABuzz, PIC and Brighthand. The core of the problem was that the MAC address spontaneously changed from 00:07:E0:xx:xx:xx to 00:E0:18:00:00:00, rendering Palms unable to work with MAC filtered access points. More seriously, if multiple affected end up on the same network, it can create serious network related issues, as well as opening a number of security concerns.

http://staff.pop3now.com/alee/macweb.jpg

You can view those threads here:
http://discussion.brighthand.com/palmhandhelds/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33658
http://www.palminfocenter.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13860

A PalmOne user recently sent his T|C back to PalmOne as a result of being affected this problem. When he received his unit back, instead of having the problem fixed, simply had the sticker on the back of the unit changed!!!

http://staff.pop3now.com/alee/palm/mac1.jpg

http://staff.pop3now.com/alee/palm/mac2.jpg

He emailed me these pics with hopes that maybe I had an answer. Unfortunately I don't have a good one, but I completely understand his frustration, and am appalled with how PalmOne has handled this.

This is a serious issue:

PalmOne has not respected the IEEE guidelines for the assignment of MAC addresses, specifically that units be assigned UNIQUE MAC addresses. We don't know how many units are affected, and how many users have not sent their PDAs into PalmOne for repair. This leaves an unknown number of rogue T|C units around the world that can create network related issues, and possible IT security concerns if someone mistakenly believes that 00:E0:18:00:00:00 is a valid MAC address.

One can only speculate that this problem was costing PalmOne too much money, and that they thought they could get away with printing up a bunch of stickers with the "bad" MAC address.

I cannot stress enough how serious this issue is! PalmOne has some explaining to do.

bryus
06-28-2004, 03:51 PM
It is not likely that the sticker was changed, but that the unit was swapped with a referb.

Elfyn
06-29-2004, 10:59 PM
It is not likely that the sticker was changed, but that the unit was swapped with a referb.
First of all the MAC address is NOT supposed to change and secondly the number is supposed to be unique. All the T|C's that are spontaneously changing MAC addresses are changing to that same number (00:E0:18:00:00:00). So even if it is a refurb, they have simply slapped a sticker on the refurb with the 'bad' MAC address printed on it.

The links to the threads in alee0729's post are from 1 year ago! After a year PalmOne still seems to be trying to ignore the problem. I agree with alee0729, PalmOne has got some explaining to do!

Gustavo Faerman
08-04-2005, 06:13 PM
I sent my Palm to be repaired by Palm last April 10, order number s1-103553126

They charge me like u$s 120 and told me I would be receiving a refurb. unit.

After 3 weeks I picked up the refurb unit. To my surpries it has the infamous mac address problem: In Prefs -> Wifi -> Info I have:
MAC Address: 00:E0:18:00:00:00

After spending more than one hour with a very ignorant rep, and after talked to many supervisors, they said that if I send this refurb unit back they will send me another refurb one, but in good conditions.

That generated a new service order #S1-107308823

Well it is August now, they sent me the second unit, and the story is going to be pretty easy to figure out by you pals, this unit has ALSO the MAC ADDRESS problem!!!!!

I talk again to Palm Support here in Argentina, and once they ask me to send it back to them I refused to do so, and asked them to take care of getting the unit from my home and returning it back to me once repaired.
They accepted that. That was like 2 fridays ago. They supposed to be here by the next Monday.

I am still waiting for them.

Hope we all learn the type of customer service they have...

Gustavo Faerman
Buenos Aires, Argentina

dmitrygr
08-04-2005, 08:56 PM
if you are interested i cna make an app to change the number to whatever you want. drop me an email at dmitrygr@gmail.com