beautiful.

[JMS]

And I thought that my NR-70V was a fine looking device ... Design-wise, the TG50 sets itself well apart from other PDAs I've seen. Take a look at the larger pictures at the Japanese site. I find especially attractive the orange-lit keyboard framed by brushed metal that matches the flip case, nice and subtle. As if the beauty of the external design is not enough, the look of many of the programs, such as the audio and video players, have been nicely updated to take advantage of the hi-res screen. In short, I'm impressed.


JMS

[Bionic Antboy]

I have to agree, for the most part. Although not a huge fan of an integrated flip-top, I understand the need for one with a keyboard on the device (as opposed the the SJ33 fliptop, which I just don't like at all, and adds to the thickness of an already thick device). I would prefer a 320x240 screen over a keyboard, but this is a very nicely put together piece of hardware. In fact, I'd almost make this the device to upgrade to, if they don't come out with what I want by the fall. Almost, but I'm not TOTALLY convinced yet. I'll have to wait until I get one in my hands.

I'm surprised that other companies haven't bothered to take the external design of PDAs to the same level that Sony has. All my PDA using friends (even the the once with PPCs) agree that nobody makes a better looking PDA than Sony, and this is the best looking model the've come out with since the NR series. After a questionable start to the new year (SJ33 and NZ90 - personal opinion - not meant to incite arguements :) ), it looks their designers are back on track.

[JMS]

I most likely will be upgrading my NR-70V in the Fall, and, so far the TG50 is the only device I'm considering, although I'm sure in the next six months we'll see other interesting models. I suspect that I will stay with Sony, since, as you bring up, other companies have been rather unimaginative with their designs (Palm did release the rather sleek Tungsten T, but followed it with the Tungsten W, which I find quite ugly, not to mention underpowered). I disagree with you about the SJ33 and NZ90, however, I think they are both quite well designed, taking into consideration their target buyers and features. The only recent Sony release I haven't found attractive is the NX series, due to the CF slot (for me, symmetry, which the NX lacks, is a strong factor good design). Regarding, PPCs, I've yet to see one that didn't seem to me generic looking.


JMS

[phattie]

Sony has tons of experience in the consumer electronic market which has help them out immensely. Plus they have to design things for the japanese/asian market which generally prefer quality form factor and better build quality.

BTW is that a CF slot on the bottom?

[sindu]

TG50 does not have a CF Slot. The "thing" in the bottom connect to cradle.

[BimBoy]

The only thing I can complain about (and would be the first thing I change) would be to replace the yellow/while led with a blue one to match my T68i. then it would be smokin'

[BimBoy]

Hmm weird it posted me as unregistered...

[Palié]

Originally posted by BimBoy
The only thing I can complain about (and would be the first thing I change) would be to replace the yellow/while led with a blue one to match my T68i. then it would be smokin'

The BT antenna and the BT LED light up blue, http://www.palminfocenter.com/ss.asp?f=img_tg50jp_3.jpg.
They look really cool

[T1000X]

Originally posted by sindu
TG50 does not have a CF Slot. The "thing" in the bottom connect to cradle.

True, but the CF sled adapter is listed as being compatible with it. That means the accesory could possibly see a stateside release. I would pay to have the extra CF slot and the extra battery power it provides.

[Jeffry]

One ONLY design flaw in my opinion, is the small screen.

[SprSaiyan8]

Originally posted by Jeffry
One ONLY design flaw in my opinion, is the small screen.
my thought as well i would prefer more screen than the keyboand but i do like how the keyboard lights up i wish the i would be if that was on my NZ90

[SprSaiyan8]

Originally posted by SprSaiyan8

my thought as well i would prefer more screen than the keyboand but i do like how the keyboard lights up i wish the i would be if that was on my NZ90
sorry about that i meant to say.i wish my NZ90 keyboard would light up like that

[bluguru]

Did you know that Palm used Sony designers to make the TT. I read that a while ago. The joke was that they made a device that will surely have problems due to the sliding design (stress on internal wire/cable ribbons). Interesting, since some have said the TT is not in line with the quality of Sony designs. Just a sidebar :)

[Unregistered]

The TG50 is probably one of the most asthetically pleasing PDAs I've seen in a long time. I would love to see what it would look like if Sony designed cars...

[bluguru]

We would probably have to buy our gas from Sony;)

[yOyOYoo]

hahaha i like that bluguru

[LITTLESIX]

It's - um, different.

Teeny screen (carefully protected with lid to protect from those sippy cup spills)

Weird keybored (misspell intentional)

If you look real close under the lid it says "manufactured by Playskool".

Sorry - they not only missed the mark on this one, it looks like their sole purpose for constructing it was to get rid of loose parts around the warehouse.

If you like it - more power to you. It'll never come to my house.

[sindu]

SonyEricsson just annouce a new mobile phone T601 and new bluetooth headphone in the coming CeBit and launch shortly after that. The unit is suppose to launch in Asia at the end of March. The new phone can complement TG nicely. It boast tasteful design, tri-bank, MMS, GPRS, bluetooth and a host of other goodies. Check those out in SE site.

[ballistic]

Originally posted by LITTLESIX
It's - um, different.

Teeny screen (carefully protected with lid to protect from those sippy cup spills)

Weird keybored (misspell intentional)

If you look real close under the lid it says "manufactured by Playskool".

Sorry - they not only missed the mark on this one, it looks like their sole purpose for constructing it was to get rid of loose parts around the warehouse.

If you like it - more power to you. It'll never come to my house.

I'd have to respectfully disagree with you '6. I think it will catch on for the following reason:

1. First time buyers that want a mid-priced color device with power and lots of features (multimedia) but aren't sure about Graffiti will be attracted to this device.

2. Nice form factor. Thin, built in screen protector, don't really need to buy a case.

3. With integrated BT, this thing will work well with a BT phone. This will kill the Tungsten W (which is not getting good reviews) when paired with a good BT phone.

4. The TG will put the final nail in the coffin of the Tungsten T, which is having poor sales leading to its recent price drop, now around the same price point as the TG.

I guess we'll see. Personally, I'd like to check the TG out in person, but it won't replace my NX70V.

[sindu]

Response to Little Six.

1. The screen is not tiny. It is at least at par with T665. The "tiny" screen is need to make the form which include the keyboard.

2. Actually the screen/ lit protector which is exchangable allow you to carry it as it is and it is going to be a fashion statement. Furthermore, the screen when open to form a 90 degree angle might reflect sunlight to make the screen more brighter.

3. Keyboard can the machine more appealling to a wider consumer.

4. Agree with ballistic on BT, specially with the new SonyEricsson phone T601 which has a camera built in. the new T601 is a beatifuly design beast.

For me, When I heard of TG, I cancel the preorder of NZ. This is my machine.

[sixty-four]

Originally posted by sindu
Response to Little Six.

1. The screen is not tiny. It is at least at par with T665. The "tiny" screen is need to make the form which include the keyboard.

--snip--



Look here: http://www.clieclub.jp/review/tg50/images/tg50_21_jpg.jpg

Relatively speaking, that's a pretty significant difference in screen size.

[big_raji]

Originally posted by sixty-four


Look here: http://www.clieclub.jp/review/tg50/images/tg50_21_jpg.jpg

Relatively speaking, that's a pretty significant difference in screen size.

Damn! You're right! The TG50 screen IS quite a bit smaller than a T665.

Ouch.

I guess I'm going to have to stop using my tiny fonts on this device.

[sindu]

Thanks for the picture sixty-four, mistake on my part. I am quiet surprise....would have to see it myself.

[Jeffry]

OMG that's freakin' tiny... like big_raji said. Could this screen possibly be tinier than that in the Tungsten T?

Any PDA that has a screen length less than that of half of the body height reduces its functionality.

[ballistic]

Looking at the picture, the screen isn't that much smaller than the T665. Don't let the Graffiti area deceive you.

[Unregistered]

You will see it in stoe, and you will buy it. Like the NZ, all of the bickering will stop once you can see it in person.

[LITTLESIX]

Originally posted by ballistic


I'd have to respectfully disagree with you '6. I think it will catch on for the following reason:

1. First time buyers that want a mid-priced color device with power and lots of features (multimedia) but aren't sure about Graffiti will be attracted to this device.

2. Nice form factor. Thin, built in screen protector, don't really need to buy a case.

3. With integrated BT, this thing will work well with a BT phone. This will kill the Tungsten W (which is not getting good reviews) when paired with a good BT phone.

4. The TG will put the final nail in the coffin of the Tungsten T, which is having poor sales leading to its recent price drop, now around the same price point as the TG.

I guess we'll see. Personally, I'd like to check the TG out in person, but it won't replace my NX70V.

At NO point did I say it won't catch on; I'm not that stupid ;) It's got the name Sony on it. It'll move like wildfire.

My post was my opinion pure and simple. Don't care for it, you couldn't pay me to take one.

And again to repeat myself - if you like it - more power to you. This one won't be finding a home with me or mine ;)

[ballistic]

Originally posted by LITTLESIX


At NO point did I say it won't catch on; I'm not that stupid ;) It's got the name Sony on it. It'll move like wildfire.

My post was my opinion pure and simple. Don't care for it, you couldn't pay me to take one.

And again to repeat myself - if you like it - more power to you. This one won't be finding a home with me or mine ;)

Duly noted, I should have said, "I think they hit the mark for the following reasons."

How's your newest treating you??? Don't tell me that you're so blinded by love that your eye won't wander to anything other than your NZ!!;)

[LITTLESIX]

Originally posted by ballistic


Duly noted, I should have said, "I think they hit the mark for the following reasons."

How's your newest treating you??? Don't tell me that you're so blinded by love that your eye won't wander to anything other than your NZ!!;)

Treating me great. The battery has a bit of a learning curve on it believe it or not. This Clie is definitely one where you have to RTFM - bigtime or you're gonna be clueless.

Does my eye wander? You betcha. While my NZ is doing great by me, I always have one eye on the up and comings be it Sony or anybody elses Palm. If something else were to emerge tomorrow that better suit my needs moreso than the NZ, I'd be moving straight to it. I've developed quite a knack for selling my PDA's :)

[ralchizar]

ballistic is right in one point, a lot of first time buyers will love this thing, however that is not really a point in it's favor. I don't think that it is designed for someone who knows what they are doing, just those who think that they do.
And the keyboard, imagine typing with that, where do you hold on? when you are typing with your thumbs you have to have something to hold onto that is below the lowest key, otherwise it is very inconvienent to type with your thumbs and any other way is insanely slow.

[quiller]

the screen looks a lot smaller because the 665 has the silkscreen Graffiti area as part of the screen. the TG50 looks to be maybe a fourth of an inch shoter, probably less, but is still bigger than the T|T.

[dorianne]

Originally posted by LITTLESIX


Treating me great. The battery has a bit of a learning curve on it believe it or not. This Clie is definitely one where you have to RTFM - bigtime or you're gonna be clueless.

Does my eye wander? You betcha. While my NZ is doing great by me, I always have one eye on the up and comings be it Sony or anybody elses Palm. If something else were to emerge tomorrow that better suit my needs moreso than the NZ, I'd be moving straight to it. I've developed quite a knack for selling my PDA's :) LITTLESIX - Where do you sell your PDA's?

[big_raji]

Originally posted by Unregistered
You will see it in stoe, and you will buy it. Like the NZ, all of the bickering will stop once you can see it in person.

Oh, at no point did I say I wouldn't buy it. I'm still going to buy it because of the features it has, but I can still complain about the smaller screen. I'm just worried, because I'm used to using the "tiny" fonts everywhere, and I just hope I don't kill my eyes trying to read those same fonts on a screen that's a little bit smaller. I'm already having a tough time as it is, but using a larger font just annoys me.

[LITTLESIX]

Originally posted by dorianne
LITTLESIX - Where do you sell your PDA's?

Depends what I'm selling and how fast I wanna move it. If I need to move one fast, I usually peddle my wares at work. There's always somebody looking and the bulletin board is in a good spot.

If I don't get any nibbles, then I move to online; ebay. That's usually my last resort - too much hassle for me.

Same way for anything else I'm moving, laptops, desktops, printers, etc., I go through a total overhaul about once a year on my personal stuff.

[Jeffry]

Originally posted by big_raji


Oh, at no point did I say I wouldn't buy it. I'm still going to buy it because of the features it has, but I can still complain about the smaller screen. I'm just worried, because I'm used to using the "tiny" fonts everywhere, and I just hope I don't kill my eyes trying to read those same fonts on a screen that's a little bit smaller. I'm already having a tough time as it is, but using a larger font just annoys me.

Working with spreadsheets would be a nightmare.

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by Jeffry


Working with spreadsheets would be a nightmare.

Then what is it on a Tungsten???

[Importluva]

Once, again, I'm late to a thread.

Anyways, the screen does look small, but don't be decieved-it could just be an optical illusion, wait until you see it in person. I think that this is a killer device, as I have said in the past. It should win over many people, especially those who want bluetooth and type out emails on the run. Sony hit the spot with this one.

[T1000X]

On some Clies there is that border around the screen, and with the TG50 the edge of the device seems to be but up against the screen.