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russr
01-17-2003, 01:14 AM
What are the overclocking apps available for the CLies?  I'm interested in one for the SJ30.

I've heard of FastCPU and Afterburner...are there any free ones out there?

hherbzilla
01-17-2003, 07:10 AM
I'm not aware of anything free.
I've tried both Afterburner and FastCPU, and found FastCPU offered a much nicer, more professional interface. FastCPU works great on my SJ30.

wnm
01-17-2003, 07:20 AM
I tried both AB and FCPU. I would pick AB, in conjunction with a hack manager (I used Tealmaster) that allows profile mapping so you can deactivate the AB with certain apps. FCPU is always on, and even thought you can configure the speeds for individual apps, a I found the FCPU program would cause conflicts. Once I optimized AB I never had a problem with it.

DanT
01-17-2003, 08:11 AM
You can turn on and off FCPU by stylus swiping across the graffiti area. Each app can be customed set to whatever speed you want. If I don't want to overclock an app, I just leave it at 33MHz. There are only a few apps that require over clock anyway (13 apps in my case). I have no problem with the FCPU. My N760C max stable speed for app in RAM and in MS are about 55 and 53 MHz, respectively. Higher than than I'll get white screen that requires a soft reset.

Serotta
01-17-2003, 08:27 AM
First, I use FCPU on my T415 with no problem. I highly recommend it.

Second, checking PalmGear, AB and FCPU are the only overclocking apps I could find. There is also an app called QuickBits that is supposed to speed things up by "optimizing" some system commands. Never tried it though.

Tixx
01-17-2003, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by Serotta
First, I use FCPU on my T415 with no problem. I highly recommend it.

Second, checking PalmGear, AB and FCPU are the only overclocking apps I could find. There is also an app called QuickBits that is supposed to speed things up by "optimizing" some system commands. Never tried it though.

I used to use quickbits on my Vx, but it has not been updated and does not work on even my T615:(

russr
01-17-2003, 01:25 PM
I was using FastCPU and really liked it, but the trial version expired and I figured I'd try out the others before making a decision to buy FCPU.

I tried AfterBurner, but I can't figure out how to overclock stuff faster than 37mhz. I downloaded the latest version from Palmgear too...what am I missing?

Also, anyone heard of ClockDA?

breakfastchef
01-17-2003, 01:53 PM
You are referring to ClockupDA. I used it on my Palm IIIxe before I purchased FastCPU. A very good app and it really worked. Nothing fancy and you will need a DA launcher if you want to fiddle with it. http://members.tripod.com/~hokamoto/

As far as using Quickbits or CruiseControl, these programs did not overclock, rather they shortened wait states. They helped an app like ClockupDA work even faster. They are compatible only with VZ processors so won't work with newer CLIEs.

FastCPU is my favorite. You can over or underclock apps, turn it off and on with a stylus swipe and set different speeds for your apps independently. FastCPU also reduces wait states.

 

wnm
01-17-2003, 01:55 PM
To overclock AB faster than 37Mhz, you have to purchase the app. The full version also has options for eliminating wait states and increase pageing speed. All fully explained in the manual. I optimized it on my Visor Platinum (33Mhz DragonballVZ) to the equivalent of 54 Mhz.

With respect to turning FCPU on and off, It's my understanding that all though you can turn it off, the program is still running (at least 3.0). I believe this to be the case, becuase you have to do a reset to activate or deactivate the program.

russr
01-17-2003, 02:40 PM
What's the fastest speed that one can overclock with ClockupDA?

Will it even work on my SJ30 with dragonball processor?

na2rboy
01-17-2003, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by russr
What's the fastest speed that one can overclock with ClockupDA?

Will it even work on my SJ30 with dragonball processor?

The max you can overclock with ClockupDA is 42 MHz, and it works with your dragonball processor. I have ClockupDA and Afterburner on my SJ-30. I have Afterburner always running at 52 MHz, but I sometimes use ClockupDA to set it back in certain programs.

russr
01-17-2003, 11:14 PM
Hmm 42 is not very fast...maybe I'll just stick with FastCPU

ClieCanuck
01-19-2003, 06:39 AM
I use Afterburner on my s360 and found it quite easy to set-up. The intsructions are very straight forward and you can specify the speed you want for each application. Palmgear also has a special where you get Afterburner and Liberty together at a discounted price.

williepalm
01-19-2003, 06:57 AM
So far FastCpu seems to be the most stable. Afterburner seems to crash quite often.

tanker_bob
01-19-2003, 07:04 AM
I used and loved Afterburner for years, but it doesn't recognize apps on the memory stick. That's OK if you want to accelerate everything on your stick, but that wasn't my case. I switched to FastCPU, which worked fine on my T615C but causes instability on my T665C plus locks up the device at settings above 74 MHz. It should work fine on your SJ30. Both AB and FCPU cut wait states, so you no longer need programs like Cruise Control.

wnm
01-19-2003, 08:43 AM
FCPU did not work at all on my T665, even when everything was set to 66MHz. I eventually gave up and deleted it.

tanker_bob
01-19-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by wnm
FCPU did not work at all on my T665, even when everything was set to 66MHz. I eventually gave up and deleted it.
I couldn't live with the instability, so I deleted it as well. I tried working with MegaSoft2000. Although they were responsive at first, the grew silent when they couldn't solve the situation quickly. That was months ago.

wnm
01-19-2003, 01:43 PM
I think that someone had posted that they were pulling it from the market. I don't know if thats true.

tanker_bob
01-19-2003, 01:47 PM
Hmmm, it's still on their website for sale.

russr
01-19-2003, 06:17 PM
FWIW, I have not had any stability problems with FastCPU. I overclock different apps differently as not every app can take 66mhz. Some don't like anything about 50mhz, others 46mhz, etc.

I liked the interface, stability and options of FastCPU best. I do not like its price tag however.

Tixx
01-20-2003, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by tanker_bob

I couldn't live with the instability, so I deleted it as well. I tried working with MegaSoft2000. Although they were responsive at first, the grew silent when they couldn't solve the situation quickly. That was months ago.

Neither could I. I was sad to see it go though.

tanker_bob
01-20-2003, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by russr
FWIW, I have not had any stability problems with FastCPU. I overclock different apps differently as not every app can take 66mhz. Some don't like anything about 50mhz, others 46mhz, etc.

I liked the interface, stability and options of FastCPU best. I do not like its price tag however.
The instabilities appear to be the greatest on 66 MHz SuperVZ CPU devices. I think it is unrelated to the CPU itself, but involves the support subsystems like the display circuits. That's just my guess from some testing I did.

Gazpacho
01-25-2003, 01:49 PM
I just installed FCPU on my SJ30, and Speedy 2.4 Benchmark too. I overclocked every app to 66MHz, but the Benchmark says that I have only 48 MHz.

Also, Sysinfo is saying that the machine is running on 48 MHz too.

Why?

tanker_bob
01-25-2003, 02:10 PM
Because that's as fast as your CPU will go. Each CPU has a limit depending on its manufacturing tolerances. Yours is only guaranteed to 33 MHz. Anything above that is a credit to and gift from Motorola.

Gazpacho
01-25-2003, 11:13 PM
Errr... while everyone seems to manage a clockspeed above 50 MHz, mine is not going faster than 48 MHz?

Does anybody have the same 'problem' ?

williepalm
01-25-2003, 11:37 PM
Thats the old version of FastCpu you're using I guess? The latest is 3.0

tanker_bob
01-25-2003, 11:48 PM
willie, there's no overall difference in capability on 33 MHz VZ processors between 2.8 and 3.0.

Gazpacho - Your device does what it does. Since you bought it as a 33 MHz device, you certainly don't have anything to complain about. I'd think you'd be happy you can get it to go 48 MHz. That's what I ran my T615C at most of the time I owned it, and it worked great. 51 MHz was the max it would go, and I wasn't concerned that it wouldn't do the 55 MHz others' would do. When you buy 33, 48 is a gift. Enjoy it.

williepalm
01-26-2003, 12:01 AM
Thanks for the enlightment.

Gazpacho
01-26-2003, 01:16 AM
Ditto here, of course you are right.

But I wondered whether it would be worth the money for indeed buying fastCPU or not. If I would go to 60 MHz or so, the speed difference would certainly be worth the costs.

tanker_bob
01-26-2003, 06:32 AM
Understand, and that's a personal decision, of course. I recommend that you run VFSMark and some of your more graphic or computational apps at both 33 and 48. It does make a difference in memory stick access and screen redraws. That should give you an idea if it's worth it to you. I ended up deciding to register it for my old T615C, but YMMV.

werul
01-26-2003, 07:12 AM
I used to use FastCPU wiht my Palm 505 and 515. It worked great and there was a significant speed up.

When FCPU 3.0 was released, I tried it with my T675. Though I had no stability issues, there was absolutly no noticable increase of speed in any app or MS access. I deleted it, because it was virually useless.