View Full Version : Anyone switch from the UX to the NX?
Ezra4no1
06-07-2004, 02:06 AM
I've posted this in the UX forum.. but was wondering if I could get other responses from here too..
I am so close to buying another PDA... and want to get a UX so bad... But I am having trouble forking out the extra money. But on the other hand I have been looking at an NX-80v Clie and can get that for more than 150 bucks cheaper than a UX. The upside is the NX80 does have a better camera, is cheaper and pretty much like the TH but with the added bonus of the Keyboard.
I was wondering if anyone could post thier thoughts as too there experince in switching from the UX to the NX. Did you like it? Anything you miss or didn't like and Why you switched.
**Also.. is there software that will let the NX work in Landscape Mode?**
Thanks
chquah
06-07-2004, 03:38 AM
I have been doing whole lot of research comparing different PDA in the past few weeks, here are some of my thoughts for UX50 and NX80v:
Screen : UX50 view is a landscape style,which means that you have to scroll down everytime when viewing long documents (which i hate to do it when viewing my timetable). UX50 (0) - NX80v (1)
Camera : NV80V has built in spot light (which means that you can even take picture in the dark), it also has higher pixel compare to UX50. If you are one of those guy who loves to take picture anytime at anywhere, NV80V is your choice. UX50(0)- NX80V(2)
Dimension : NX80V is horizontal style, UX50 is landscape style, for me, i feel more comfortable grabbing NX80V than UX50, just like when you carry books, of course you carry horizontally rather than the other way, as you need to scratch while holding UX50. :eek: UX50(0) - NX80V(3)
Battery Charger : UX50 has it own bulky charger stand which means that you need to carry around with it if you're thinking of going for holiday. Unlike NX80V, its charger is just like phone charger which is far more easy to carry around. UX50 (0) - NX80V(4)
RAM : UX50 (104mb) have far more RAM than NX80V (32mb) do. ;) UX50(1)-NX80V (4)
Weight : UX50 (175g) is 60g lighter than NX80V (235g), if you think weight does matter.......UX50 (2)- NX80V (4)
other than these stuff, they have almost the same application and specs. As a result, I bought myself a new NX80v last week :p . Even though it's outdated, but it's still the best PDA at this time. :cool:
CLiENX
06-07-2004, 04:22 AM
wow.... never thought of that before...seems like my NX80V will be my last SONY pda then........ if only it can be upgraded to OS6 when it is available! The question now...is no one knows when that will be available..lol
ps. Other points to add is UX50 has built in bluetooth and wifi functions, unlike NX80V which require additional purchase of BT and WIFI card.
THNX
winexprt
06-07-2004, 05:24 AM
I switched from a NX80V to my UX50 mostly for the built-in WiFi & never looked back...I use WiFi all the time and love the convienence of having it built-in, in such a small compact unit.
The bulk of the NX80 was gettin' to me to be quite honest.
Do I miss my NX80V?..Yes, a little.
Put it this way: UX50 - Best PDA ever built as far as I'm concerned.
NX80V - Best screen on a Palm device EVER!
LiteBuLB
06-07-2004, 08:09 AM
I have been doing whole lot of research comparing different PDA in the past few weeks, here are some of my thoughts for UX50 and NX80v:
Screen : UX50 view is a landscape style,which means that you have to scroll down everytime when viewing long documents (which i hate to do it when viewing my timetable). UX50 (0) - NX80v (1)
Camera : NV80V has built in spot light (which means that you can even take picture in the dark), it also has higher pixel compare to UX50. If you are one of those guy who loves to take picture anytime at anywhere, NV80V is your choice. UX50(0)- NX80V(2)
Dimension : NX80V is horizontal style, UX50 is landscape style, for me, i feel more comfortable grabbing NX80V than UX50, just like when you carry books, of course you carry horizontally rather than the other way, as you need to scratch while holding UX50. :eek: UX50(0) - NX80V(3)
Battery Charger : UX50 has it own bulky charger stand which means that you need to carry around with it if you're thinking of going for holiday. Unlike NX80V, its charger is just like phone charger which is far more easy to carry around. UX50 (0) - NX80V(4)
RAM : UX50 (104mb) have far more RAM than NX80V (32mb) do. ;) UX50(1)-NX80V (4)
Weight : UX50 (175g) is 60g lighter than NX80V (235g), if you think weight does matter.......UX50 (2)- NX80V (4)
other than these stuff, they have almost the same application and specs. As a result, I bought myself a new NX80v last week :p . Even though it's outdated, but it's still the best PDA at this time. :cool:
Wat??? NX80 4 - UX50 1????
hmmm,,,, NX70 used to be 5,, muahahahhaa,,, :D
CliePet
06-07-2004, 11:48 AM
> RAM : UX50 (104mb) have far more RAM than NX80V (32mb) do.
This is deceptive. The marketing material for the UX50 adds up to 104MB (RAM+ROM+unusable), but it is misleading. The NX80V has 32MB of RAM and 32MB of ROM, but that is also deceptive.
An apples to apples number would be 104MB v. 64MB (includes RAM and ROM, usable and unusable). These numbers are misleading as well.
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In practical uses, the RAM available on the two devices are essentially the same. They have a 16MB storage heap (for programs and data) and an 7MB system heap (for running programs).
If RAM matters to you, consider the TH55. It has 32MB of storage and 7MB of system RAM (ie. TWICE as much storage RAM than either the NX80 or UX50, and about THREE times as much as the older NX73/NX70/NZ90)
For flash-ROM features, the UX50 has a ~30MB "Internal Media" and 16MB backup storage built in. A 64MB memory stick can provide the same features externally.
FWIW: Overall I prefer the TH55 to all my other CLIEs, it should be part of the consideration.
The UX screen is ridiculously small compared to the NX screens.
sebring
06-07-2004, 12:08 PM
I have been doing whole lot of research comparing different PDA in the past few weeks, here are some of my thoughts for UX50 and NX80v:
Screen : UX50 view is a landscape style,which means that you have to scroll down everytime when viewing long documents (which i hate to do it when viewing my timetable). UX50 (0) - NX80v (1)
Camera : NV80V has built in spot light (which means that you can even take picture in the dark), it also has higher pixel compare to UX50. If you are one of those guy who loves to take picture anytime at anywhere, NV80V is your choice. UX50(0)- NX80V(2)
Dimension : NX80V is horizontal style, UX50 is landscape style, for me, i feel more comfortable grabbing NX80V than UX50, just like when you carry books, of course you carry horizontally rather than the other way, as you need to scratch while holding UX50. :eek: UX50(0) - NX80V(3)
Battery Charger : UX50 has it own bulky charger stand which means that you need to carry around with it if you're thinking of going for holiday. Unlike NX80V, its charger is just like phone charger which is far more easy to carry around. UX50 (0) - NX80V(4)
RAM : UX50 (104mb) have far more RAM than NX80V (32mb) do. ;) UX50(1)-NX80V (4)
Weight : UX50 (175g) is 60g lighter than NX80V (235g), if you think weight does matter.......UX50 (2)- NX80V (4)
other than these stuff, they have almost the same application and specs. As a result, I bought myself a new NX80v last week :p . Even though it's outdated, but it's still the best PDA at this time. :cool:
How about builtin WiFi and BT, adds 2 to UX, but two memory slots adds 1 to NX80.
In making the decision, you can't just list features, you also have to weight the features according to which ones are most important to YOU. Screen size is the one that keeps me away from the UX (I have bad eyesight). :eek:
pruss
06-07-2004, 01:23 PM
Screen : UX50 view is a landscape style,which means that you have to scroll down everytime when viewing long documents (which i hate to do it when viewing my timetable). UX50 (0) - NX80v (1)
There is no portrait mode on the UX50 (except on apps like Plucker or Bible+ that do rotation themselves)??? I had no idea.
Alex
chquah
06-08-2004, 04:20 AM
nah, i don't think UX50 have potrait feature except the apps itselfs does. Unlike Palmone - Tungsten 3, which let you switch between potrait and landscape
LiteBuLB
06-08-2004, 07:00 AM
Aiya,,, ux owner will cling n insist that their machines are the best. same goes to nx owners.
PBM808
06-08-2004, 07:18 AM
i played with a UX at the store and i was misled from my reading when they claimed that "UX uses a 480x320 screen like the 320x480 screen of the NX series" and i was expecting the same sized screen. the UX screen was small but i thought it was an optical illusion because it had a large border. picked up the TH55 next to the UX and i was amazed at how small the UX screen was. anywho, T3 is my PDA of choice between UX, NX, or T3. UX has all that memory, but it can't store non-palm files. NX has a CF slot, cards are about half as costly as MS, but T3 has SD cards which are comparable to CF, bluetooth, larger screen than UX, portrait OR landscape with a single tap, 52mb usable which is more than enough for most, and not to forget, a great metal stylus thicker than any sony stylus i've seen.
Ezra4no1
06-09-2004, 03:06 PM
...T3 is my PDA of choice between UX, NX, or T3...
I've thought about the T3, but having some sort of thumb board is a requriment for me since I tend to take large notes at times and find I can enter info in faster than always using a stylus. That right there rules out the T3 for me.
Next.... I never quite understood the Slider thing on some of the Palms designs. I mean if you have a high res+ screen....wouldn't you always want to use it? Yeah, The T3 can be slid down smaller to fit in the pocket, but at least for me, I feel like I would be fooling my self everytime I went to use the PDA, as if I "had" to slide it all the way open when in use and Slide it closed when not in use. At least with my soon to be NX model, I could keep it in Tablet mode just about all the time and only flip it around when ever I needed to use the thumb board. Also the NX has a pretty decent camera built in which was another "huge" deciding factor for me.
But I will say that I like that palmOne has a button to change views to Landscape..(NICE) I wish that existed for the NX...
PBM808
06-09-2004, 03:50 PM
i don't see your point about the fooling yourself in sliding the T3 open- it takes more work to flip the screen of an NX from closed to tablet than it does to flip back the cover of a t3 and slide. unless you mean to tell me you carry your NX around in tablet mode without any cover. i really like the feature of turning on my T3 by sliding it open. it's a lot easier than sliding the small switch on the side of the NX80, not sure about what the 70 has. i'm sure you've handled both PDAs to make your comparison, but i guess weight isn't a big factor for you. the T3 is significantly lighter than any of the NX's.
Ezra4no1
06-10-2004, 07:35 AM
i don't see your point about the fooling yourself in sliding the T3 open- it takes more work to flip the screen of an NX from closed to tablet than it does to flip back the cover of a t3 and slide. unless you mean to tell me you carry your NX around in tablet mode without any cover.the T3 is significantly lighter than any of the NX's.
Yes.. I would keep it in tablet mode. I had an NR series way back. I use to always keep it in tablet and only flipped it when I needed. I have a pretty decent case I kept the NR in and was planning on doing the same with the NX. As for fooling myself... I see absolutely no reason to want to close the T3 and the whole sliding design I find pointless, (and yes I know it makes it smaller..still does nothing for me). Now if palmOne released a model much like the TH, than that would be a different story.
As for size and weight....No bother at all.... I use to use the Ipaq 3600 series with it's CF Slider and all... Wanna speak about BIG and HEAVY.. The NX will be welcomed.. Besides.. like I said previously.... I like the camera quality on the NX and probably am one of the few people on this site who like'd the whole idea of having an intergrated camera.
PBM808
06-10-2004, 06:53 PM
if size is no bother and you like a camera, get the NZ90 brick = P
aoi tsuki
06-11-2004, 02:09 PM
i'm a UX-50 owner and i've been toying with the idea of getting an NX-80 as a secondary PDA. The larger NX-80 screen, a processor that i can speed up (with the right apps), and the remote feature -- both the wired remote and the fact that it's IR port is strong enough to function as a remote are big pluses for me. Another plus is the CF slot. If i can use it as i would the MS slot, i may even sell my UX-50 for the NX-80. Granted, it's larger, the keyboard isn't as useable, and has no built-in WiFi or Bluetooth, but i'm not using the last three options as much as i thought i would.
As much as i love my UX-50, i think it's a bit overrated at times because it does everything, and i admit to being seduced by this "feature" myself when it came time to upgrade from my N760C (one of my fave Clies). It's a tough decision, because i can get a nice NX-80 package with the money i'd get for my UX-50, but i'd miss my UX-50.
Decisions, decisions...
macattack
06-11-2004, 02:35 PM
I considered both. I REALLY wanted a UX machine, but I was definitely scared away by all of the quality control issues with the screen (misaligned, high-pitch whine, etc.). To me, the NX80 was the third generation in a design series, so I figured it would have fewer bugs than the UX. As it turns out, the only real complaints I have read about with the NX80 are its new "features" (CF door & power slider). Even with those problems, they seem to amount to a much smaller percentage of affected NX80 units than, say, the screen whine on UX units, which I understand to approach 50%.
aoi tsuki
06-11-2004, 02:38 PM
Yeah, my UX's screen whines, and the battery mysteriously dies if it's not charged in three days of light use. i've got a 2-year warranty from CompUSA that i intend to use as soon as i find my papers (moving's a pain). i don't care about the screen whine as it doesn't bother me, but the battery issue is truly unacceptable.
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