NX-60 discontinued?

[musicjesus]

At CompUSA this week, I saw that the NX-60's were marked down to $429 with a big "CLEARANCE" sign. I asked the salesman if the NX-60 was discontinued. He replied that he had just been to a Sony products meeting and learned that the NX-60 was being discontinued in favor of a new model, but that he could provide no further details.

Has anyone else heard this? I just got my NX-60 three and a half weeks ago and am not excited to hear this news?

[aaronrkelly]

You bought a Sony product - its to be expected, thats how it goes....for everyone else thats not "early adopters" its a good way to get a good machine for a better price.

[clovell]

That's rather annoying. I bought my NX60 at CompUSA on December 31st, and it's been obsoleted within 60 days?

Grrrrr!


Craig

[rhart00]

when does the TG50 come out?

[xXx]

That wont replace the NX60..they wont just drop the clamshell line.....

[*YellowRose*]

Originally posted by musicjesus
I just got my NX-60 three and a half weeks ago and am not excited to hear this news? Just curious...why does it matter if you're happy with your PDA?  

It's not like they've stopped supporting it...just stopped making it.  If it breaks they'll still be able to fix it.  You'll still be able to purchase cases & accessories....

I don't see the problem...

[n2ifp]

I looked at the Sony site yesterday and it did NOT show the NX60 as obsolete!

Then again any computer you buy is obsolete the moment you buy it...

[Jag]

I bought my NX60 last week for $400 at CompUSA and was told that Sony was discontinuing the model also.

[mashoutposse]

The NX60 came out in October -- the fact that you bought it in December's got nothing to do with anything.

[LSAlford]

In my mind there's a big difference between "obsolete" and "discontinued".
My wife still uses my old PalmIIIc for just about everything that I use my NX70V for with the exception of multimedia. It runs Agendus, iSilo, Bejeweled, etc.
Hardly obsolete.

In fact, my 2002 Toyota Camry has been "discontinued" but is also not obsolete., and rumor has it that the 2003 model will also be discontinued and replaced by a 2004.

Anybody here buy a new car every year? Didn't think so.

I WILL NOT replace my NX70V with the NZ. I hope to use it for a very long time, and someday replace it with something that has not yet been imagined.

And the old Palm IIIC will probably still be going strong.

[fireman54]

Well said LSAlford, well said.

[clieconverted]

I bought my NX60 at CompUSA in January. The sales rep told me then that they were pushing the last units in favor of a new model with OS5.2. Basically the NX60 w/ 5.2. For me the real move will be OS6, (better be) more RAM, and SONY again. At least they keep coming out with better PDA's. My home PC is 3 years old, finally getting a pair of new ones for the house. But my PDA's are replaced about every 12- 15 months.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by LSAlford
In my mind there's a big difference between "obsolete" and "discontinued".
My wife still uses my old PalmIIIc for just about everything that I use my NX70V for with the exception of multimedia. It runs Agendus, iSilo, Bejeweled, etc.
Hardly obsolete.

In fact, my 2002 Toyota Camry has been "discontinued" but is also not obsolete., and rumor has it that the 2003 model will also be discontinued and replaced by a 2004.

Anybody here buy a new car every year? Didn't think so.

I WILL NOT replace my NX70V with the NZ. I hope to use it for a very long time, and someday replace it with something that has not yet been imagined.

And the old Palm IIIC will probably still be going strong.

I agree with fireman54, well said!

Okay I may have used a poor choice of words, but Sony hasn't yet said the NX60 is discontinued, but the NR70 has been. Your right, even if a manufacturer stops making a car, it doesn't mean you have to stop driving it. Sure, the newer cars may have gee-whiz goodies that you don't have now, but you still can get around without them.

[nxx]

check out this link, i don't see any nx60 on their discontinue product line.

http://sonyelectronics.sonystyle.com/micros/clie/discontinued/index.html

[Baker1369]

So what to do...I just got a NX-60 a week ago...i have three more weeks to take it back for something else...what do I do? just kidding...I see no reason to worry about the nx60 being discontinued...If I am happy with it that is all that matters...I would like bluetooth maybe...:D

[TheSpies]

Originally posted by clieconverted
[B]The sales rep told me then that they were pushing the last units in favor of a new model with OS5.2. Basically the NX60 w/ 5.2.

I heard the same thing, that the units are not being discontinued but they are just going to roll them back out with 5.2 and an updated connector.

[musicjesus]

Thanks for the input, guys. So, being new to the Clie line, will it be possible to upgrade the NX60 to Palm OS 5.2?

[clieconverted]

Doubtful. The only way is the SONY way. You return it to them, they charge $50 and in a couple weeks you get it back. That is if SONY will do it at all. If you need it then you need to upgrade it, but why bother OS6 will be golden master by September (hopefully) then new devices before xmas. So figure on this time next year for the device to buy since SONY will be first, and then first again with a new hot device while PSG is still trying to figure it out.

[Macabre Man]

I wouldnt think they would kill off the 60's, they are still too new.

[T1000X]

The NX60 being discontinued makes me think very strongly that Sony is going to be coming out with an updated NX70V that has integrated Bluetooth and OS updates. As for the existing model, I think it will go to the NX60's price point.

[rhart00]

if they were coming out with a replacement for the NX, don't you think they would be discounting the NX70 too, not just the NX60?

[n2ifp]

Of course, it will happen one of these days. The life span of a Clie is very short, before a new model comes out. I wonder how many still useful Clies have been tossed aside?

[addict]

Originally posted by clieconverted
Doubtful. The only way is the SONY way. You return it to them, they charge $50 and in a couple weeks you get it back. That is if SONY will do it at all. If you need it then you need to upgrade it, but why bother OS6 will be golden master by September (hopefully) then new devices before xmas. So figure on this time next year for the device to buy since SONY will be first, and then first again with a new hot device while PSG is still trying to figure it out.

Is this standard operating proceedure for SONY? Is that $50 pricetag arbitrary, or are is there some other circumstance that worked like this?

Saddened...

[mashoutposse]

It happened once, and people seem to consider it standard practice already.

[Jag]

Personally, I plan to keep my NX60 for a long time. To me it is the best unit available and plenty fast. I will probably buy one of the new Memory Stick Pros when available. Until then I will keep using my two 128mb sticks and PowerRun, doing a lot of document work and playing some great games. When I found my unit at CompUSA it was discounted and I was told Sony was going to discontinue the model - I still bought it and would have, even if it had not been discounted. I think the machine is just Super.

[cbulock]

I find it strange that so many people believe things that some guys at CompUSA said. There are some knowledgable people who work there, but the only time I have ever heard anything about a new NX coming out and it is going to be the same, but with OS 5.2 is from some person who "heard it from a guy at CompUSA". I wouldn't take that as facts. I'm sure a new version of the NX is on the way, as someone here pointed out before, they have released updates to this series every 6 months. But I certainly wouldn't take things you hear from CompUSA/BestBuy/CircuitCity/Fry's employees as 100% truth.

[gyffes]

I'm not worried 'bout my brand new '60 being disco'd -- it's what allowed me to save nearly $100 off the purchase price.

What WILL annoy me is if next month an OS5-running Zaurus-type microlaptop with a 200mhz processor comes out for $500-$600. THAT will put some serious sand in my panties.

Obsolescence is part of 'puter ownership.

[cpncrnch]

Here's my question. Where are you guys who found the nx 60 for 400 located. Every store-- including compusa-- where i am located (boston) is still selling for 500?

[cbulock]

Originally posted by cpncrnch
Here's my question. Where are you guys who found the nx 60 for 400 located. Every store-- including compusa-- where i am located (boston) is still selling for 500?

If you want to find deals like that, you will probably want to look on the web. I got my NX60 for $450 before it was even released and I know some got it cheaper than that. Check out Dell.com as they have good deals once in a while. Also check out sites like techbargins.com. You just have to keep an eye out as sometimes these deals don't last very long.

[MVives]

Originally posted by *YellowRose*
Just curious...why does it matter if you're happy with your PDA?  

It's not like they've stopped supporting it...just stopped making it.  If it breaks they'll still be able to fix it.  You'll still be able to purchase cases & accessories....


I want to put in a few words about this: The topic of Sony discontinuing products / introducing new ones comes up a lot on these forums, and people complain about it. In many cases there is really no need to worry since "it doesn't prevent your PDA from working." And this is true: existing accessories and software will continue to work.

However, consider that the introduction of a replacement PDA can limit the future usefulness of an existing model. If a PDA is not on the market long enough to sell "a lot" of units, then accessories manufacturers and software developers will not want to create new products to support them.

For example, suppose that Sony comes out with a new PDA that features a new display resolution, say 640x480, with a new display API for software developers that is not backwards compatible with existing 320x480 displays. If that new PDA sells much better than existing models, then developers may choose to ignore old models and only support the new technology for future software. I get the impression that something similar has already happened with the NR series, i.e. new VG skins not working with NR models (I am not clear on the details of that).

Similarly, if connectors and PDA shapes change quickly, accessories manufacturers will leave the old technology behind. Consider the placement of the connector on the NZ90: if that is the only PDA with such a connector, you can bet the NZ90 will have a fairly limited selection of related accessories. (To Sony's credit, at least they appear to have standardized on the T-series connector, not counting the KB11/NX fiasco.)

The chance of such a problem occurring would be reduced if Sony were to leave a model (or at least the special features of that model) on the market longer, so that there can be a critical mass of customers for third-party manufacturers / developers to profit from. In many cases, this isn't really a PDA model issue, it's about the special features supported by Sony devices: 320x480 display, VG, MP3 support, T-series connector, Memory Stick slot, etc. The frequency of new product introductions won't matter as much if the special features are kept relatively constant.

In fact, part of the reason I am comfortable with my new NX70V purchase is that Sony recently released the NZ90, a PDA that is very similar in terms of "special features" (OS5, 320x480, VG, etc.), at least as far as software is concerned. I can (sort of) rest assured that developers will be supporting this "platform" for a while because there appears to be that critical mass of customers, at least based on the number of models in question (NX60, NX70V, NZ90, and the NR series to a lesser extent).

On a side note, I think PalmSG does a somewhat better job of keeping their products consistent, though as many here have said, that does limit their level of innovation.

Again, this isn't about techno-lust (wanting the latest and greatest)... that's a psychological issue than many Clie Source readers are actually quite proud of! I really speak here of a sales, marketing, and product development issue. There is no such thing as future-proofing when it comes to high-tech gadgets, but Sony should recognize that they are basically selling a computer platform (not an appliance), and that changing that platform too frequently can negatively impact existing customers and third-party suppliers.

(And I am sure that someone has said something similar in a different forum at a different time, but I figured it would be worth mentioning here... thanks for reading.)

[gyffes]

I got mine online, as well. Found it for $425. Try ASKJEEVES.com or the like.

Same site found me MSs for $50 (128mb)

[TheSpies]

Here's an odd thing, i just went to sony's site and clicking on the NX60 takes you to a page to order the NR70, and clicking on the NX70 takes you to the order page for the NR70V

[inertia memphis]

I went to Comp USA a few weeks ago arriving not having decided between NX60 or 70. When I saw the $429 vs $499 I was expecting that made the NX60 easy choice for me. For $170 I could by a really nice 2pm sony to use although as it happens I already have F717 so it makes an Ideal companion with the Clie. NZ90 was too expensive and not as pretty.

I did by the Mem Stick BT adapter and am pretty happy with it. I can hotsyc with it and also in general works with my bluetooth phone, only glich is in sending emails with attachments or over 10k or os. I can recieve much larger files without probelm, I'm trying to work through the sending probelms.

I don't care about it being dis-continued, like others have said I'm really happy with it and for about the same price just blows away the tuncston, in particular for me the calmshell tablet thing, hugh screen, and even jog dial are unique pluses to this.