WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT BRIAN'S NZ90 REVIEW (Barga!nPDA.com)??

[GEORGECLIE]

Personally I don't think there's a perfect PDA in the market yet, they gonna be upgrading PDAs and PPCs constantly for years, SONY got a lot of features in the NZ90 unit and this is not perfect, the next one is going to be better.

I think also NZ90 has many nice features and you Know them, is nice have a PDA with camera 2 MegPixels, MP3 player, don't you think guys.

If Brian in his review (Barga!nPDA.com) doesn't recommend to buy this PDA, there's other ones we probably could recommend not to buy, because they have imperfections you know, like Ipaq 5455, Tungsten TT, Toshiba E720, etc.


I forgot to mention that I love my NZ90.

you can read the review in this link

http://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=1213&showComments=true

[davy19]

thought he was wrong on a few points, especailly the battery

[mashoutposse]

I thought he was wrong about:

-the battery (just plain wrong)
-the speaker (how can you put it in the front when the top half swivels?)
-the lack of sample 1600x1200 pictures taken by the NZ (even though he called the ones he provided 'highest quality')
-the flash/battery issues (you can easily override the warnings by clicking the flash button!)
-comment about the voice recorder button (#1, having the button simply start the app makes absolutely no sense in 80% of situations, and #2, you can easily prevent accidental recordings by using the Hold switch)
-the entire conclusion

It's obvious that the author didn't dedicate enough time to the actual testing of the unit. If the flash impacted battery life as much as he said, then why didn't he take the time to do a torture test? It's not like it would take long :rolleyes:

His conclusion especially didn't make any sense. Are you telling me that the NZ90 doesn't have enough to justify the $200 over the NX70V? 2MP digicam with flash? Bluetooth? Replaceable battery? Tons of improvements and refinements? Come on.

The best reviews of this unit have come from CNet, PC Magazine, and this board, as far as I'm concerned. I'm just slightly annoyed that people will read it and not give the NZ90 a chance.

[Marudine]

Well, if you read the comments (can be found at the bottom of the review) made by mostly 'Anonymous' users, they sounded like an 'anti-NZ' .... and its a total contrast from this forum .. could it be the writter, or could it be the readers, or could it be the NZ by nature ? For you to decide ...

[bargainPDA]

Interesting feedback from you guys. I did use the unit exclusively for a while and feel like the review was compprehensive and fair. It's kind of funny though. Every PDA hs faults, none is perfect so far. You claim that my battery claim is wrong is laughable. I told you of my experience with the device. You're claim is that I am lying then? I can assure you, that'snot the case.

Many devices have the speaker in front, it may be tough, but not impossible.

Those pictures are the highest quality - I must have resized them by accident - good catch. I thought my browser was jsut resizing them.

The flash would not work at times because of the battery flux. There was no way to override the warning to make it work.

The conclusion did not state the NX series was a good value either. If you compare the two units, yes the NZ has much more to offer for only $200, but that's not the point.

I'm sorry you felt the review was unfair and shortsighted. Perhaps you could tell me who this PDA is good for and how they would get a return on the $1000 investment. Maybe I'm missing something.

Brian

[davy19]

i think the problem is you did nto charge the battery correctly, either that or the battery is faulty, and need to get a reaplcement.

For a fari reveiw you should excahnge the NZ90 maybe you have a defective one that does happen wehn it comes to electronics.

I have taken over 140 pics with flash and my battery only went down to 75%

so something is wrong with yours

[bargainPDA]

Glad to see it works out for you. There is clearly a problem with many units though. I wish Sony wouldn't hide from it though. Kind of like Microsoft refusing to admit the problems with their XBOX drives.

B

[TritonB7]

I use my Sony Nz90 extensively; I'm involved in a lot of Web Design, and school projects. Almost anything I say or do in either subjects/projects I record with my Nz90. I get about 6 hours of battery life without taking pictures. And when I do take pictures I can usually take around 20 with no flash, and my battery is still around 75% or better. However by the end of the day I do see my battery around 35%. I usually pop in my extra charged battery when my current one gets around 20%. Overall I have seen great improvement in the battery life. I think you just need to wear in the battery first, before you will see any big improvements

[pdagal]

I tried the totally drain and charged it 18 hours regime twice. It really didn't improve my NZ, sadly. I am a bit concerned about doing this too many times, because Lithium Ion battery manufacturers warn about permanent capacity reductions if these batteries are drained below 10%. I know Sony is telling us to do it though. 2nd battery no different.

When the battery is at 100%, I can fire off a 30 to 40 pix, no problem. But the fluctuation due to temporary voltage drop at camera initialization (camera app launch) gets me whenever the battery is at 65% or less (flash warnings, which require efforts to trick it into using the flash). If the battery is at 50% before camera app launch, the the NZ will sometimes tell me it is disabling the camera (not just the flash). I have to exit and re-enter the camera app until voltage stabilizes enough to allow to me to shoot (even no-flash) pix. Either there are problems with some units and/or batteries, or Sony should make the camera app a bit less sensitive to battery voltage readings so we aren't inconvienienced by the false warnings and flash/camera disabling behavior. It makes it too hard to take quick pix when you've got to do these workarounds, and sometimes ya just need to snap some shots quickly when the battery isn't fully charged.

Sony also needs to come out with a separate charger too. It's a pain to keep charged spares on hand when each battery, one by one, must spend 4 hours in the NZ on the cradle to fully charge.

[mashoutposse]

Thanks for the reply, bargainPDA. I'm certainly not calling you a liar, but I'm saying that, with a bit more thorough testing, you would have found 1) the battery life itself to be more than adequate, and 2) the readings to be misleading when using the camera app.

As I stated in another thread, I took 280 pics with flash from a full charge, and was left with about 35% battery life left. Regardless of the odd readings, that power had to come from somewhere.

All Sony needs to do is release a patch to solve the camera app/battery bug, and everything should be fine.

Perhaps you could tell me who this PDA is good for and how they would get a return on the $1000 investment. Maybe I'm missing something.

You said it yourself -- this is a Personal Entertainment Device. Imagine going on vacation, chatting with someone on AOL IM via Bluetooth, then taking a pic with the cam and emailing it to that person so that he can see all two million pixels of that beautiful waterfall you were just telling him about, while listening to mp3s the whole time. No other PDA on the market can do something like this, and that's just one possibility out of many.

You might not know this, but there are plenty of people out there who are totally unsatisfied with the capabilities of every single PDA on the market. And I'm not talking about MBs and MHz -- there are millions of people who just don't see the wisdom of spending hundreds of dollars on a mere organizer. We're talking about people who have the disposable income; people who aren't exactly stingy. These people see 'Palm Pilots' as a waste of time -- after all, you just use it to store addresses and phone numbers, right?

The NZ90 may be more evolutionary than revolutionary as far as features are concerned, but it is the first 'PDA' to fully separate itself from the stigma associated with these devices. We're talking about a standalone-quality digital camera with the ability to go on the internet, play mp3s and movies, record audio and video, play assorted games, and, oh by the way, organize your life. Sony knows digital cameras are hot (after all, they sell a boatload of them); I think you SEVERELY underestimate the value of the NZ's camera to most people.

Sony knows how to get people to buy their products by incorporating hot features -- look at the Playstation 2; they included out-of-the-box DVD playback when it released in late 2000, at a time when DVD's popularity was skyrocketing. "A brand new game console AND a DVD player for only $299?" It's early 2003, and they've already sold nearly 60 million of them, and has become Sony's most important product.

I pulled out my NX70V in the elevator today; I was immediately asked about it. When I brought up the camera, he said, "Oh, that's got 2 Megapixels, right?" His girlfriend chimed in, asking him, "Is that the one you were talking about?" I corrected them, but I was surprised that these people, who have never owned a PDA before in their lives, already knew about the NZ90, and displayed a genuinely strong interest in it!

And now that I really think about it, it makes sense. The NZ90 is really the ONLY device that does what it does. Even with the sizeable pricetag, it will probably do more to expand the market than any other PDA (except the Zire, probably -- ironic, considering they're on opposite sides of the price spectrum).

Be openminded.

[starstreak]

YES! I'm not the only one. Exact same problem but not as bad as my frist unit. My frist would kill the unit after 20 shots. This one behaves closer to yours. I'm again going to take back my unit for another. If you followed my other post on this first return, they gave me a open box and I'm still having feelings about that.


Originally posted by pdagal
I tried the totally drain and charged it 18 hours regime twice. It really didn't improve my NZ, sadly. I am a bit concerned about doing this too many times, because Lithium Ion battery manufacturers warn about permanent capacity reductions if these batteries are drained below 10%. I know Sony is telling us to do it though. 2nd battery no different.

When the battery is at 100%, I can fire off a 30 to 40 pix, no problem. But the fluctuation due to temporary voltage drop at camera initialization (camera app launch) gets me whenever the battery is at 65% or less (flash warnings, which require efforts to trick it into using the flash). If the battery is at 50% before camera app launch, the the NZ will sometimes tell me it is disabling the camera (not just the flash). I have to exit and re-enter the camera app until voltage stabilizes enough to allow to me to shoot (even no-flash) pix. Either there are problems with some units and/or batteries, or Sony should make the camera app a bit less sensitive to battery voltage readings so we aren't inconvienienced by the false warnings and flash/camera disabling behavior. It makes it too hard to take quick pix when you've got to do these workarounds, and sometimes ya just need to snap some shots quickly when the battery isn't fully charged.

Sony also needs to come out with a separate charger too. It's a pain to keep charged spares on hand when each battery, one by one, must spend 4 hours in the NZ on the cradle to fully charge.

[Edidid]

I do believe my NZ feels bulky compared to my NX, but the complaints about the battery are off base. I did see two NZ users with fluctuating battery levels, but neither owner allowed the battery to fully charge for the full four hours before their first use. After calibrating their battery and a full night of charging both NZ have stable battery levels. I listen to 2-4 hours of mp3s, generally take 10-15 pictures a day, and check my PIMs pretty regularily only to see the battery level drop below 50% once or twice. With the reviews battery complaints I wonder if the wireless card was left in the slot draining the battery while not actively being used.

I am also curious why the reviewer was put off by the blue hue on the screen, after all its white point is almost identical to my color calibrated monitors, and is not as harsh on the eyes in dark situations.

Oddly enough BargainPDA metions Micrsoft hiding from faulty Xbox drives...too bad that was simply a rumor in the japanese market and not reality. Generally people double check their statements before publishing, but apparently not always.

[davy19]

what camera bug app is everyone talking about?

i have yet to experience anything?


i also think your review is wrong look how many people in this forum has the NZ90 and how many are compalining? very few

[TritonB7]

Originally posted by starstreak
YES! I'm not the only one. Exact same problem but not as bad as my frist unit. My frist would kill the unit after 20 shots. This one behaves closer to yours. I'm again going to take back my unit for another. If you followed my other post on this first return, they gave me a open box and I'm still having feelings about that.




How long have you been wearing in your battery?

[mashoutposse]

The bug causes the NZ to report an inaccurate battery reading form within the camera application. The reading within the app can be up to 25% off of the true level.

[davy19]

Originally posted by mashoutposse
The bug causes the NZ to report an inaccurate battery reading form within the camera application. The reading within the app can be up to 25% off of the true level.

oh ok..but that is not a major bug, just dont look at the abttery level..lol


serisouly i dont even pay attention to my battery most of time, i just use it as, and end of day i charge it up

[Bryan Smith]

Well guys. Someone has a bug but I thank God it is not my NZ. I use this thing (I can't say sexy thing as I got a thread shut down because of that discussion but the NZ sure is se...y)
I have had no battery problems and you are having them because you did not let the battery fully charges to calabrate itself-you know the manual tells you to do that? I know we do not read manuals; I never do except for this time.

Bulky-no. A brillinat PDA-yes. People go wow it is a camera? No it is more and then they go WOW WOW WOW.

Sony will make a better PDA and in a year and it can only get better. One week left in Japan by the way before we get 1mg memory sticks and then this will become my mp3 player as well.

Anyway decharge your battery and recharge it for the 4 hours fullly and it should solve your problem.

[starstreak]

Did that. and still same problem. I drained mine to below 15% and charged it for over 6 hours(well light goes off after 4) did that a few times. its better than my first unit, but way off the mark from some people.

[Bryan Smith]

My firend had to toally drain his-to 0% and then it was fine

[Spiral]

Actually, they could try to put the speaker on the "front," by placing it on the same side as the screen. This would be a tad inconvenient if you wanted to listen to MP3's while the nz is closed tho, (does anyone actually do this?) I've done ti a couple of tiems, but not often.

Personally, I thought the review presented a pretty good view.

The battery life errors may have been just the particular unit, and no fault of the reviewer, and the conclusion is strictly the reviewer's opinoin. (I did not look at the pictures tho)

[mashoutposse]

Actually, they could try to put the speaker on the "front," by placing it on the same side as the screen. This would be a tad inconvenient if you wanted to listen to MP3's while the nz is closed tho, (does anyone actually do this?)

What about alarms?

[Spiral]

Ah, forgot about that, i nvr use alarms, i either use my clock or my watch, the clock is already louder than my clie, esp. in cradle, and sometimes i still can't wake-up.

Two speakers then?

[Unregistered]

Gee, it sure sound like there's some feuding going on here between this site and bargainPDA.

I just want to say that I've had my NZ-90 for several days now. Charged it for 6 hours before use. Re-charged it several times already. I have no Bluetooth activity, no WiFi activity (don't even own a card) and no MP3 activity, just Camera and basic PDA activities. . . .

And I've noticed significant battery drain on my NZ-90 just after a few shots. I have to concur with Brian.

I'm concerned about the limited use of my camera in order to preserve battery for PDA functions.

I think Sony chose inefficient chips for the NZ-90 camera. Maybe the power requirement is too high for the NZ-90 battery. Just a guess. It's the first 2MP camera on a PDA.

I don't think the MP3 function taxes the battery as much as the camera especially with flash. MP3 functionality is found on lesser models of various PDA's. But the camera, especially a 2MP with Flash is only unique to the NZ-90.

I will continue to monitor my battery usage.

No matter what I read on any website, what really matters is what I'm experiencing. But at least I have to admit to myself that my problem is real. It's a problem that I have to deal and live with. I guess that's part of the price I have to pay for being too eager to be one of the early owners of the NZ-90. I wish I would have waited though.

Just consider those of you who aren't experiencing the same power problem as I am are just lucky or fortunate.

[Redmond]

I just wanted to lay CLAIM to the previous post.

I don't know why it came up as Unregistered Guest.

I don't want anybody to think Brian posted it.

Redmond.

[Redmond]

I just wanted to mention that I'm also a bit disappointed that Sony took away some of the Jog Wheel's functionality.

The Jog Wheel use to be able to turn the unit OFF or go to different menus by option settings.

It seems the NZ-90 Jog Wheel fuctionality is fixed.

If any one knows how to configure it, please post a reply.

Sigh.

[starstreak]

K. but just to let you know, the high drain at the start seems nromal, but after taking some pictures with flash, some poeple will kill the battery. which is wrong. while others can go on and oin

[Redmond]

Of course not, I would never kill the battery with camera (esp. flash) photos. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to use the NZ for the rest of the day, or until I charge it up.

It just kinda irks me that I have to be careful about having to limit my camera use because of battery power. I have to pick shots that are well lit to avoid the use of Flash. Its not what I expect from a $700 PDA.

I'm thinking the battery could have been twice as big. It should have at least twice the current capacity in mAh.

For cryin' out loud, the screen on the NZ is almost as large as my 3 inch LCD screen of my Sony and JVC DV camcorders. Both my camcorders recording time is longer when I don't use the 3 inch screen, so likewise I try to minimize Flash. And I use the NZ-90 screen all day.

[starstreak]

yup and it should be (larger battery) but some people here aren't having the battery problems which is leading me to believe that there is some quality control problems with the sony, or some people are getting the 1% that are really good. :)

[mashoutposse]

Redmond: When you talk about the camera's battery drain, are you stating this based on the reading given when the camera app is open? Here's a typical situation:

-I enter the camera app with 80% battery life remaining.

-Within the app, the reading drops down to 55%.

-I take 10-15 pics with flash.

-I exit the program. After a few seconds (sometimes over a minute), the reading creeps back up to 78%.

What's the normal situation in your case?

[starstreak]

mas- That sounds good. I would be at 85% drop to about 60% in one minute. and it would drop 1% every 4-5 seconds without taking a picture. I just took 15 with flash, but after 6, I got a low battery warning for the flash. But I got it to take up to the 15. Now after one minute out of the app, I'm up to 75%. So I lost 10% with 15 shots. So I dunno if this is good or not. Its not if you compair me to Ark. :)

[mashoutposse]

Wow, 10% seems a bit excessive to me... As I said, my NZ produced 280 shots w/ flash on a single charge (a bit over one hour straight of taking pics). Maybe there's a patch forthcoming to loosen up the warnings threshold...

[GEORGECLIE]

Yesterday I had my battery drain to 0 %, it was taking few pictures, listening mp3 music, and some games, after that I put it in the cradle to recharge the battery after 7 hours I think it wasn
't enough because now it reads on 100 % full battery, I have 5 hours 30 minutes for use.

Do you recommend to exchange my unit.

What should i do.

[mashoutposse]

The same thing for me, too. I'd say don't worry about it, as 5 hours seems reasonable -- remember, Sony themselves says 10 days, 30 minutes per day, with the backlight off!

[davy19]

agree with mashoutposse,

i would not worry about it

[Redmond]

Originally posted by mashoutposse
Redmond: When you talk about the camera's battery drain, are you stating this based on the reading given when the camera app is open? Here's a typical situation:

-I enter the camera app with 80% battery life remaining.

-Within the app, the reading drops down to 55%.

-I take 10-15 pics with flash.

-I exit the program. After a few seconds (sometimes over a minute), the reading creeps back up to 78%.

What's the normal situation in your case?

I didn't use my NZ too much this weekend, but here's exactly what happened:

- I was at 83% Battery.

- I took two flash snapshots.

- The NZ-90 reported: "!! Battery power is too low to use the flash. The flash will be disabled. (OK)"

- I left the Camera App to the Main Screen check Battery.

- Battery reading now at 43%

- Shortly afterwards I tried Camera App again and was able to take two additional flash shots - DISPITE the Battery reading was at 43% (Thanks to all wonderfully accurate Battery Management Program)

- Then the next NZ message informs me: "Your battery is running too low for camera. Please charge your handheld. (OK)"

- I OK'd the second message and set the unit down - kinda disgussted really.

- I crused the Web - cliesource

- I cheked on my NZ again, Battery now at 50%

- I went to bed (Sunday night)

- Woke up this morning and saw your post and replied.

- My NZ went to bed uncharged - intentionally - to check for loss.

- Happy to report that the all mighty Battery Management Program reports I'm at 50% (NO Loss overnight)

- Disappointed that I tried the Camera App and was immediately informed by the familiar message: "!! Battery power is too low to use the flash. The flash will be disabled. (OK)"

- After OK, It was followed by the next message: "Your battery is running too low for camera. Please charge your handheld. (OK)"

- I exited the Camera App to the Main screen.

- This time my Battery reading is at (just a min. . let me see, , it doesn't look good . . .Battery Icon is at about 1/3 bar) 43%

- I've got to get this baby in the cradle or else I won't be able to get it charged before I go to work!!! (it's 6:43AM)

My conclusion - be very wary of the Battery Report. Take your pictures between 75-100% Battery. It seems less than 50% it gets flaky. You may or may not take Flash pictures, at least on my NZ!!!

[Redmond]

What??? Me Worry??? NOT.

Just a bit disgusted at Sony though that my NZ-90 has to be baby'd after 50%

I EXPECT to be able to take pictures even at 40% battery power. Isn't that a reasonable expectation from a top of the line $700 PDA?

On my digital still camera as well as my DV camcorders I can take pictures at 50-40-30-20-10% until the cameras battery DIE.

But it seems my $700 NZ is a bit more TOUCHY, and I have to adjust accordingly.

[GEORGECLIE]

Mashoutposse:

The thing is other guys are saying that they get 14 hours after they drained to 0 % and recharged the battery overnight, with my 5 hours 30 min. on 100 % remaining, i wont get 280 shots with flash in my camera, probably is something wrong with my battery, I'm thinking drain it again and recharge, may be is going to work better this second time.

thanks for the replies guys.

[Redmond]

I just finished readin all the additional posts. . .

I think what you're all saying is TRUE.

We all say things to make ourselves feel better.

I just had higher expectations from my NZ-90.

I thought before I went out and bought the thing - all based on Specs and features mind you . . .

"yeah BABY!! - this thing's got everything - gotta get one. Gonna get one"
= Great screen
- 2MP camera
- Replaceable battery
- dictation capabilities
- Virtual Grafitti
- MP3
- OS5
These were all my WANTS - so I GOT one.

Hindsight - I should have waited.

But I did what I did, and now I have to live with it (married) - even with all it's good and bad points.

How does the marriage vow go? "in sickness and in . . ."

Each one of you that owns one of these top-of-the-line Sony Army Knife PDA deep down inside know what I'm talking about.

I better get dressed for work!!

[oneeyesquare]

I tried the force flash method last night. By tapping the flash icon til it showed it was on, you can easily disable the battery warning. I was able to take pics down into the low 30% range with out much trouble and a pic count around 30 or so with redeye/flash. Quite frankly, I got sick of taking pictures...
The NZ is not as good as a dedicated camera for pic taking, but if Iwas ONLY gonna take pics I'd have bought a digi- cam instead.
I wonder if Sony purposely made the battery threshhold finicky to keep people from blowing their battery in the middle of the day and losing the rest of the PDA functions? Just a thoght. My thanks to whomever posted the force flash trick. It would've never occured to me. That's why I visit this board!!!!

[davy19]

Originally posted by Redmond

Each one of you that owns one of these top-of-the-line Sony Army Knife PDA deep down inside know what I'm talking about.




Not me..I was able to take 140 pics with flash and still be at 75% flash..first of all most pics I ever plan on taking in one day is probably 25..more like 10 on average.

So not all of us are thinking like that.


In fact majority people on this board are very happy with the nz-90, and rule is you usually dont hear from the ppl who are happy, because they are not here..it is the people that are having issues.

[Redmond]

Originally posted by davy19



Not me..I was able to take 140 pics with flash and still be at 75% flash..first of all most pics I ever plan on taking in one day is probably 25..more like 10 on average.





140 pics with flash, and still at 75% WOW!! that's impressive. I'm happy for you.

That's what I average on my dedicated digital camera.

I'm curious, of the 140 photos (with flash), please tell me approximately how many of those pictures were taken when your NZ-90 reported LESS THAN 40% Battery Remaining?

Surely you can tell me and other NZ owners approximately how many pictures we can EXPECT to take when the Battery Reports is at 40%.

You didn't mention the rest of your day. . . So can I assume after your 140 pictures (with flash) and 75% Battery left, you could have taken say another atleast 100 photos? So something like 240 photos per charge? is that reasonable to expect out of a normal (not dis-functional) NZ-90 with 100% charge?

[davy19]

Originally posted by Redmond




140 pics with flash, and still at 75% WOW!! that's impressive. I'm happy for you.

That's what I average on my dedicated digital camera.

I'm curious, of the 140 photos (with flash), please tell me approximately how many of those pictures were taken when your NZ-90 reported LESS THAN 40% Battery Remaining?

Surely you can tell me and other NZ owners approximately how many pictures we can EXPECT to take when the Battery Reports is at 40%.

You didn't mention the rest of your day. . . So can I assume after your 140 pictures (with flash) and 75% Battery left, you could have taken say another atleast 100 photos? So something like 240 photos per charge? is that reasonable to expect out of a normal (not dis-functional) NZ-90 with 100% charge?



I could have went more but I did not..I was starting to get bored..LOL


my unit did start to get warm after that, and that was from the battery which is normal accroding to the manual.


There was someone here who was able to take 240 or 280 pics..not sure exact number, there is a thread somewhere below.


Turthfully I have never gottten my unit below 50%, so dont know

I always charge up my unit overnight, and it lasts for the entire day, and I use it for about 1-2 hours total time during the course of the day.

[bargainPDA]

I think it's funny that you guys all think I hate the NZ90. It's still my current PDA of choice, when size is not a concern. I do prefer the Tungsten T though, when I have to go light. Anyway, the battery has gotten slightly better, but still not quite right. I simply cannot dismiss the battery problem as an isolated incident or impropper battery conditioning. I'll keep you posted as to how things go though. I should be getting a second battery soon as well, so we'll see what happens there.

Brian

[starstreak]

My THIRD unit is on the charger now. Lucky for me Compusa believes in me when I show them how fast it drains. I got nowhere near 140 shots before 75%, i can do about 30 or so and be around 78% But if I continue, I'll get flash warning which can be bypassed. I'm crossing my fingers again.

davy19-
When you first got your unit, you charged till the light went off or all night? I think you said else where, but can't find it. Oh and I can take it that since yours never went below 50%, I can guess it last a while day above 50%? So besides yourfirst charge, you normally charge above 50% too?

[mashoutposse]

I charged all night the first night. It was hard (really wanted to play with my new toy), but luckily I fell asleep watching TV, trying to pass the time.

[Redmond]

My NZ's been in the cradle all day since morning.

Its gonna be time to wake her up for some extensive photo shooting after the kiddies go to bed.

I'll let you know how it goes.

[starstreak]

K, i'll do the same, but my light indicator is off. It turned on when it was done charging(green power light) I don't know why. ANyways, power indicator(I didn't remove it from the charger yet) says 5:09hours at 50% brightness. SO I still don't know where 10+ hours come from unless youre at 1% light or something


Originally posted by mashoutposse
I charged all night the first night. It was hard (really wanted to play with my new toy), but luckily I fell asleep watching TV, trying to pass the time.

[GEORGECLIE]

Do someone Know after finished charging the battery, when the power light goes off. If the batteries still charging???

[starstreak]

Its supposed to stop charging, but I think while the light is off, its still charging your spare.

[GEORGECLIE]

Stars:

Thanks for your reply, I hope this time the battery is going to be better, this is my second unit, the other was bad, it lasted 10 shots with flash and about 24 songs mp3 with the high backlight on 80 % remaining battery.

[Redmond]

I was gonna take some shots. . . but didn't get around to it.

Took the NZ off the cradle after all day charge (14 hrs w/LED off) and the NZ's been off the cradle unused for 14 hrs.

Current battery Reading: 100%

I might get around to the photo shoot tonight.

[starstreak]

ok, but you should get that right? you didn't use the unit and the light is off?

[Redmond]

Negative. the 90 sat on my desk for 14 hours unused. I just turned it on briefly to check the condition and report on this board.

It was on the charger for 14 hours prior with the charging LED off. I believe even with the LED off, the unit is probably being "trickeled charged". But not to the extent of overcharging the battery.