I hate the lo-res screen!!!

[yOyOYoo]

Coming from a Sony UX50, the lo-res screen of the Treo 600 really blows!

I try so hard to get used to it, but then I look over at my CLIE and the resolution and crispness of the screen just makes my Treo 600 screen look so bad.

I mean for text, it is fine, but once multimedia comes into play (games, photo viewing, movies, web browser, etc etc), the screen resolution just looks so awful I don't know if I can bear it!

The good thing is that in some ways the Treo 600's screen is better than that of the UX50.

1) MUCH more brighter. 50% brightness on the Treo is brighter than 100% brightness on the clie.

2) easily readable outdoors, unlike the UX50.

3)contrast adjustment.

anyways, I really really wish palmone hurries up and gets those updated treos with high resolution screens and bluetooth out soon. I guess this post is just a rant.

[Pdaman]

Sorry, but i remenb one new post where is cut/scene/place where tells that new treo 610 don't have 320x320 screen i mean high resolution screen...
When i found that post i will add it to this message with link what will go to that post/news...

All treo news :
http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.shownewsbycat&SID=3D130A98-CF18-AC90-85889FE38826A344&PartnerREF=&catid=101

Ringtones for treo (news) :
http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.shownews&SID=3D130A98-CF18-AC90-85889FE38826A344&PartnerREF=&resID=24819

READ FULL STORY :

http://www.brighthand.com/article/RumorMill_-_Analyst_Confirms_Treo_610

"Many were unhappy about the Treo 600's 160-by-160-pixel screen. According to rumor, the next model will have a high-resolution screen. However, this doesn't necessarily mean the Treo 610 will have a higher resolution screen than the Treo 600 does. Mobile phone makers and handheld makers have different definitions of the term "high resolution." In the mobile phone world, the Treo 600 already has a high resolution screen, because it's much better than the ones offered on most handsets. If the original source for this information is a wireless carrier, it's possible the Treo 610 will have the same 160-by-160-pixel screen as its predecessor. "

[markgm]

High resolution is the only thing keeping me from the Treo. After a few years of being a Clie user, I don't think I can easily go back.

[DaMan]

I used the Treo 600 for about two weeks before I couldn't stand the screen anymore. I am back to a UX. I'm not knocking the Treo, but it just wasn't for me. If the next model has at least 320^2 then I will be the first in line to try it out.

[rldunn]

I agree. I hear such great things about the Treo, but the low-res screen would be a major deterrant. I would also like to see some form of a clamshell Treo, as I haven't had a non-clamshell phone in a long time (and don't want to go back), but the screen resolution is more important if I were to get a convergant device.

[scandalex]

For me, the T|600 is a phone 1st, PDA 2nd. For internet purposes, I usually only use it for that feature when I am away from my home computer. It serves its purposes for the short amount of time that I'm not in phone mode.

There is something about the brightness of the little screen that is murder to my eyes, so I keep the brightness as low as I can get it.

For other needs I use my T|3; and besides, games have a more realistic look to them on the 3 as opposed to the 600. ;)

[tonyreynolds]

My wife moved on from her Treo 90 to a Clie TG-50 last fall. She loves the Clie in terms of readability, who wouldn't.

That left the Treo to my daughter, who basically refused to use it, just as she refused to use the HP 525 PPC before that: just not a PDA person I guess...

That left the Treo languishing on my desk waiting for eBay, that is until my NZ90 needed to get it's defective screen replaced and I needed a backup Palm OS unit with a color screen, something better than the IIIx I have sitting in a drawer.

I liked using it well enough to keep it for the foreseeable future as a small, nifty backup for the NZ.

Even though the screen res sucks compared to today's highres+ fare, it was CERTAINLY better than B&W. The keyboard was easier to use than the one on the NZ. That said, having to use two hands to get back to "home" is not the greatest.

I was able to load most of what I have on the NZ by using a 54MB SD card and zLauncher; very nifty. Reading books was okay, Wordsmith is a better word processor than DTG on the NZ. Restoring my files form the NZ to the Treo was as easy as inserting the MS in my notebook card reader, copying the contents and then transferring those files to the SD card from where I was easily able to do a "restore" on the Treo.

Now all I have to do is once in awhile beam the PIM files from the NZ to the Treo to keep it up-to-date...

It's right here on my desk, waiting to step up to the plate...

Tony

[ignar]

Yes, low-res screen and the lack of BT are two big disappointments in Treo 600. Good news is the fonts used in Treo are generally smaller than those used in other Palm models, so information displayed on the screen is comparable to high-res models. For example, if you compare Blazer on Treo 600 and WebPro on T3, you will find Treo 600 screen delivers pretty decent amount of information for its size and resolution. On the other hand, if we are talking about pictures, Repligo, movies, and games, Treo 600 is definitely lacking. I use Treo 600 as my main PDA and phone, but usually carry iPaq 4150 or Tungsten T3 along with it since I like to read Repligo and eBook documents on PDA. Kind of defeat the purpose of one converged device. :( New Treo better have at least 320x320 screen. Upcoming PocketPC phones look really impressive, and I will have no problem jumping ships if PalmOne insists I should use older, inferior, and inconvenient technology.

[Antoine]

I do not own a Treo600, but after playing with it a few times I have to say that I could get used to the screen. There is a great difference in the Treo600's screen and my Z71's screen. I notice that the colors reporduce better. In terms of utility, I think that the Treo is a better device. Being wireless really does add to it's effectivness. I have recently figured out how to go wireless with my Z71 and SE T616 and wish that I had done so earlier. It is great not to be tied to my desk. I do see the res being a problem in that respect, too low to be useful except on the thinnest of websites.

Oh well, if any of you Treo600 owners are that miffed, I would be glad to trade my Z71 and cash for a Treo600 ;). Unless I get wind of a hi-res Treo; then Ima have to pass :D

[anitanium]

a higher res screen does also mean more battery drain
and so that impressive 5-6 hours talk time will dribble down to maybe 4 at the most, maybe even less
and people will say what a horrible device, no good battery life...

there are no pleasing some people

and i don't find lack of bluetooth that bad
yes, maybe we can't use bluetooth headsets...but is that what many users would want? i think bluetooth on pda's mean ability to use bluetooth GSM phones to connect to the internet, but the Treo already has that ability, so they left it out. yes it is some sort of a loss, but not a major one

[babsk]

I am just fine with the 160x160, and I'm also a T|C & NX80 owner.
The utility value of the Treo is what matters to me, and the screen is plenty bright enough for its size. Someone already commented about battery life, and I definitely prefer better battery life. I was going to say, as a tradeoff, but I'm not bothered at all by the screen, so I don't feel like I've gotten the short end or anything. I was using a PPC phone until a few weeks ago. It had a much dimmer screen than my other PDA's but I didn't mind because I was more interested in the convergence factor. I have carried 1 and sometimes 2 PDA's + cellphone, but like that I don't have to with the Treo. The smaller form factor is a real plus too. I could live with having another PDA with me because the Treo barely takes up space and is my phone. I use it as my primary PDA because as it's my phone, it's always with me. In fact, it's the only device I've been carrying around, although I want to maybe start toting my T|C with me again. But I definitely like the phone part-it has convenient elements to it.

[nomad_uk]

The poor Screen Resolution is the biggest reason I SOLD my Treo after 3 months. Now, I am back to Clie UX50 - same as the rest....

I wish new TREO have more solid screen...

[DaMan]

I'm sure most of you have been following the Treo Ace developments and the rumored 320x320 screen and bluetooth. The screen will be physically smaller with greater pixel density. It will be interesting to see how many people desiring hi-res will actually be satisfied with it. IMO, it will be quite similar to the UX40/50 screen, but without the extra 160 pixels horizontally.

[ignar]

High-res doesn't necessarily mean smaller fonts. If you compare 320x320 to 160x160 screen, the amount of information showing on the screen is almost identical. High-res delivers prettier looking screen and an ability to display more information on the screen if users and/or programs want. I need high-res for Docs-to-go and Repligo.

[DaMan]

Ummm... OK. Hi-res does not imply smaller fonts, but the idea is to be able to provide more information in the same amount of physical space. One of the methods to accomplish this is by reducing the size of the fonts. You realize that the only way you will see more text on the screen on D2G and Repligo is by reducing the font size, right?

I don't really know how you can say the the amount of information on the screen for 160x160 and 320x320 screens is "almost identical." If it was, why would we be complaining about the difference? There are four times the number of pixels in the 320 screen.

What I was trying to say in my previous post is that some people will now complain about the slightly smaller screen size.

[anitanium]

from what people were saying about the low res screen, i thought that it would look horrid when i got the treo
but actually, it was much better than i was expecting. sure i won't be able to look at pictures that clearly, but for the purposes, it works just fine

[jlperdue]

I had only considered the Treo 600 in passing since our carrier, Verizon, didn't make a version and reps told me they had no plans too. The kids working the mall kiosk apparently don't know much. Now that Verizon will be using the Treo it looks like that is the way I will be going for my new pda and phone. But I have recently come to the conclusion that I will need to also carry my Clie for normal Palm related work, e.g. eBooks, Word docs, etc. I do like to idea of an integrated device and maybe the hi-resolution and BT Treo will be the answer to these issues. jp

[wshwe]

From what I've read the Treo 600 screen doesn't seem to be any better than the one on my Nokia 3650 except for the touch screen. I got my 3650 free after rebates from Amazon. Similar to Ignar I carry my Clie TH55 to handle Repligo, DTG and Wifi web surfing.

Unlike PalmOne Sony keeps improving its P800/900 smartphone line.

[anitanium]

keep in mind that the treo 600 is nearly one year old
thats an eternity in technology years

[jlperdue]

Good point...

...I am planning to wait for the Treo 610 anyway. I noticed that PalmOne has listed the Verizon Treo 600 for $600 for current customers and considerably less for new customers. Ouch! How about a discount for faithful customers?

keep in mind that the treo 600 is nearly one year old
thats an eternity in technology years

[IB Michael]

Sorry.......I've been spoiled with my Clie NX70's resolution. I look at my brothers T600 and like it but that screen is as bad as my Kyocera 7135 screen. I'll wait and hope they incorporate the Bluetooth so I can get better results with the Jabra wireless headset. It too lacks in performance but I really think the fault lies in the adapter and not the unit itself. Hurry up T610!

[drdjin]

I agree with you, lo-res sucks. Had a difficult time to get use to squinting at my Treo600. Hopefully someone from Verizonwireless, and Palm is reading these complaints.