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charlies
02-28-2003, 02:57 AM
Wireless LAN issues
I have tried every possible combo and can not get my nx70 to do a hot sync via the lan. I can get email and web browse.
Set up: Linksys wrt54G Router with a netgear switch.
It goes through the motions but gets to the sync icons and times out.
network
LanSync
!!
my IP
my mask
Connect to: LAN
via: cradle/cable
I've opened forwarding on my router and tried all settings.
Hotsync is set to accept usb and Network
Not that this matters, but I am an IT manager for a 24 hour news channel. I run a pretty stout network with Cisco switches and about 300 PCs and servers, VPN, etc. I feel my networking skills are pretty solid.
Any suggestions or settings I may be overlooking?
Additionally, PalmVNC and Win-Hand will not connect/work either. There is one piece of the puzzle I am missing!
Thanks in advance
jamesbock
02-28-2003, 04:18 AM
Regarding the LAN hotsync for NX70, you have to gone through some steps.
You can get e-mail & web browse but can't perform the LAN hotsync, most properly you need to delete the "Primary PC name",
reason is it caused by the computer name has been rename after first time setup.
But for Sony, the compatible wireless LAN card is PEGA-WL100.
Hope it help you!!!
n2ifp
02-28-2003, 07:41 AM
Your settings are correct!
The problem lies with the fact that the Linksys 54G will not work with the Sony WL100 CF card.
The Netgear MR814 might be a better choice.
charlies
02-28-2003, 08:46 PM
Using: Clie NX70V/U, SONY WL100 CARD, NETGEAR MR814.
I dug up my receipt and went to Best Buy (their service is terrible!) I took a hit on unboxed goods of 20% restocking and turned in my Linksys router and laptop card. In return I got the Netgear MR814 as suggested. Got it up and running pretty quickly. Can get email and Web, but still can not hotsync via LAN connection and apps like (PalmVNC and Win-Hand) will not work!
Any other suggestions?
Modem Sync Pref: Network
LANSync Prefs: LANSync
Primary PC setup:
!!
used both my private and public IP addys (can get it to work both ways with router)
netmask
Connection setup:
called it: charlies
connect to: Local Network
Via: Cradle/Cable
When I hot sync, it initializes and then goes to the hotsync screen (all greyed out) and then times out.
Hotsync is set to accept: Local USB and Network.
Error: The connection between your handheld computer and the desktop could not be established. Please check your setup and try again.
What can I be missing/doing wrong? Thanks for the earlier input!
addict
02-28-2003, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by jamesbock
Regarding the LAN hotsync for NX70, you have to gone through some steps.
You can get e-mail & web browse but can't perform the LAN hotsync, most properly you need to delete the "Primary PC name",
reason is it caused by the computer name has been rename after first time setup.
But for Sony, the compatible wireless LAN card is PEGA-WL100.
Hope it help you!!!
true - <empty> Primary PC setting is what worked for me the first time I got hotsync to work. Now I use !! and it works too. Try both values.
charlies
02-28-2003, 09:08 PM
Just tried blank PC name - no success
n2ifp
02-28-2003, 09:25 PM
Blank PC name is a one shot item, you need to keep the double exclamation points. Your are posting in two different forums. I left you with a series of messages in the NX forum.
Timbo
03-02-2003, 08:44 AM
I am struggling with almost the same problem. ClieMail & NetFront are OK but I can't do wireless HoySync. IR Hotsync is OK.
I my case, the wireless window doesn't even open - So I have to assume that it is not trying to connect. I can ping the Clie from the PC. I have tried all the suggestions posted here and on other forums.
Using NX70V with Palm Hotsync V5.0
Tim Quinn
charlies
03-02-2003, 10:05 AM
I have pretty much given in on this one. If I have to sync, I walk over to the cradle!
Things like this...
addict
03-02-2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Timbo
I am struggling with almost the same problem. ClieMail & NetFront are OK but I can't do wireless HoySync. IR Hotsync is OK.
I my case, the wireless window doesn't even open - So I have to assume that it is not trying to connect. I can ping the Clie from the PC. I have tried all the suggestions posted here and on other forums.
Using NX70V with Palm Hotsync V5.0
Tim Quinn
If it's not even trying to connect, then I think you need to look at your Network Hotsync settings - p32 of the WL100 manual.
n2ifp
03-02-2003, 11:50 AM
Palm HotSync v5.0?
n2ifp
03-02-2003, 11:57 AM
It really gets confusing with trying to help all these users in the different forums. So if I repeat something, I apologize.
If your running a firewall or using Windows XP firewall, it will BLOCK a wireless HotSync.
Usually, the wireless HotSync is the easy part.
jimny
03-07-2003, 03:17 AM
WL100 vs WL110...what is the difference. I have SMC router, access points.
Is Bluetooth even an option for wireless Network with SOny NX70V?
n2ifp
03-07-2003, 06:31 AM
No info yet on the WL110, even if it exists.
Bluetooth is not the same as 802.11b wireless LAN. It doesn't have the same range or throughput.
Bluetooth is more for connecting devices, such as cameras and cellular phones
addict
03-07-2003, 08:35 AM
Here's where my brain landed when debating the Palm Tungsten T vs. Sony NX (WI-FI vs. Bluetooth):
Look around you. Do you see any bluetooth ANYTHING? Now, do you see an wi-fi anything? I think yes to the second question (speficially, your home wireless network, the public access points, the move to 802.11 by many many electronics manufacturers). For me, it was an easy choice.
euroclie
03-07-2003, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by addict
Look around you. Do you see any bluetooth ANYTHING? Now, do you see an wi-fi anything?
I look around me, and I see: a Bluetooth enabled GPRS mobile phone, a bluetooth USB dongle on my PC. No wifi hotspot in the vicinity, and I've got a nice 100Mbit/s ethernet network at home...
So as you say, the choice is fairly easy to do! ;)
Sorry, I just couldn't resist! Just because wifi is getting popular in the US doesn't mean it's the universal solution.
Here in Europe, radio frequency attribution problems (the military use part of the required wifi spectrum) caused a huge delay in wifi deployment, whereas a significant number of mobile phones are bluetooth enabled, thus making bluetooth a viable technology. Anyway, it just doesn't serve the same purpose, you know: I'd like to see a wifi-enabled mobile phone, that would certainly be funny (though not a very long time due to limited battery life).
Bluetooth is nice to connect a computer (in the general meaning, i.e. your PDA is a (small) computer) to some peripherals (printer, modem, gps), when wifi is perfect to connect two computers together (networks).
just my $0.02... :)
addict
03-07-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by euroclie
...So as you say, the choice is fairly easy to do! ;)
Excellent! Hey, it seems your environment leads toward a different decision than mine - such is the nature of the world. Looks like you'll be in the market for one of the Memory Stick BT Adapters then, huh?
Unregistered
03-08-2003, 08:44 AM
Some one mentioned earlier the Linksys 54G will not work with the sony WL100. Not TRUE! I use it and it works just fine. The caveat is you must download the latest firmware.
n2ifp
03-08-2003, 09:13 AM
Very good, but at the time the firmware didn't exist and Linksys admitted it and it they were of no help!!!
So don't balme us, it's difficult enough to try and keep track of everything. We try to do our best to offer free help and advice! Did I mention the time factor involved!
I don't go back and rewrite posts, and I resent your cavalier attitude and you have to hide being unregistered!
Unregistered
03-08-2003, 10:43 AM
How is not being registered hiding? If I come up with some clever name like ClieDude or wassuphomeboy, do you really know any more about me than if I was called unregistered?
Get real.
Unregistered
03-08-2003, 04:38 PM
I was not being cavalier, but just stating a fact. Also I was able to get my linksys to work with firmware 1.01. I did notice a new one out on the 7th (1.02) which further addresses the problem. As for not being registered, just haven't had the time yet. No offense was intended.
tmill2500
10-22-2003, 06:18 PM
Keep "!!" in computer name and change LOCAL to MODEM and choose wireles LAN option.
n2ifp
10-23-2003, 12:12 AM
Right!:)
Mfunkenbusch
10-27-2003, 04:53 PM
First, thank you all sooooooo much for your help throughout these threads.
I can't get my wireless hot sync to work. I have my wireless setup at work so I am limited in what network info I get.
It is a Linksys 54 G and I have a WL100 card on my clie NX70
I am having the exact same problems as posted above. I tried using < !! >. I tried not using < !! > and instead no primary pc address. I tried manually putting in the IP address info.
Doing these things I got no response and it would just time out.
I tried changing the ConnectMode from infrastructure to Adhoc 1 ch. When I did that I was able to get a network connection.
( Well I should say I think I am connected b/c it says I am "Connected" and gives me the option to disconnect in the Network preferences screen, otherwise I have no idea how to tell if I am connected.) I have not yet figured out how to do POP3 mail and get internet access, so it seems all I can do with my wireless is hot sync...which I can't do. (Oh yeah my green link light is blinking on the card. Does that mean I am connected?)
When I hot sync it says "Hot Sync Problem" The connection between your handheld computer and desktop could not be established.....
Questions:
1. What is firmware, how do I know I need it, and where do I get it?
2. What can I do to check if a firewall is the problem?
Thank you- Shelly
jackho
10-28-2003, 07:14 AM
Mostly firmware is referred to router (or Wifi AP) and lan card. In CLIE case, that is referred to router or AP only. You need to get router login and password to upgrade firmware.
You said you are in company, that is not easy to know the firewall details.
I suggest you try to ping gateway, dns or even your own PC in company first (do it in network preferences -> options -> log. If you can't get anything, that means your connection has problems. If you can replies and all settings are really ok, then that should be firewall problem.
Mfunkenbusch
10-28-2003, 11:00 AM
thanks for your input.
I am very inexperienced in using my palm so I am sorry if I ask dumb questions!
On my clie, I went into network preferences, Options, and View Log and it said
Service Name: <blank>
Local IP address: 192.168.1.94
Gateway address: 192.168.1.254
DNS addresses:
192.168.1.1
Does that mean I pinged?
jackho
10-29-2003, 05:19 AM
No, you need to type "ping" by yourself. If you ping DNS, then that should be "ping 192.168.1.1".
Mfunkenbusch
10-29-2003, 11:48 AM
I typed ping and pressed enter and it said :
Syntax: ping <hostname> [-b
<numBytes>] [-l <numLoops>]
192.168.1.1
Does that mean I pinged?
aithir
10-30-2003, 03:18 AM
No its just help screen
You should type: "ping 192.168.1.1" with out the quotes and then press the enter key or the enter keystroke.
Accordind to the PalmOS reply you will know if you have successfully ping or not. Post the reply if you want more help.
Mfunkenbusch
10-30-2003, 10:48 AM
I did what you said and the palm responded with:
Request timed out.
Error timeout (0x1212):time=0ms
Error timeout (0 x 1212):
So I guess I did not ping. I have no idea what to do now. I am almost at the point of giving up. :( Any ideas from anyone.
jackho
10-31-2003, 07:39 AM
Your network is auto assigned IP (DHCP) or manual settings? Is it VPN?
I think you better to ask IT department for details first..
IB Michael
11-01-2003, 12:05 PM
I went through the same hassle with Linkysy "G" and my home network. Spent some serious time on the phone to several tech support people. I finally hauled the G back to Best Buy and swaped it out for "B". Once home at the computer it hooked up in 5 minutes and only 1 phone call to my cable modem provider. It was a breeze. The speed of the G stuff sounded sexy, but it just did'nt pan out. Wish ya luck.
Mfunkenbusch
11-01-2003, 09:30 PM
I am weary of asking the outsourced tech guys to change my linksys g to g and b because I am afraid as to what effect that might have on slowing down the network. I was completely stopped from syncing my palm for several months so that the office could test whether the syncing of palms was causing problems in our networked calander/database.
Jackho, I have no idea what the answers are to those posted questions. Guess I'll use my Wireless LAN Card as an ice scraper!
jackho
11-01-2003, 10:04 PM
You need to wait for IT dept to change the linksys router for you first.... Sometimes dual band AP has compatibilty issues w/ CLIE. Maybe it can solve your problem after changed AP.
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