What's Your Battery Cycle?

[TritonB7]

Just was curious on how many cycles you have on your nz90. I have 9.

[ArK]

4

[dorianne]

How do you find out how many cycles you have??

[ClieMD]

Mine is at 9 and you tap the battery icon and then tap details

[dorianne]

Ok - Mine is at 7. Now what does that mean?

[ClieMD]

you have recharged it atleast 7 full cycles

[dimensiondvdrob]

Do you have to discharge the battery fully and re-charge fully or can I put it on and off the charger periodically throughout the day? I just let my battery go down to about 25% and now I am charging it, but my charger is at work and I dont want to stay here all night until it's charged.

Whats better for the battery? To completely discharge and re-charge every time, or just plug it in whenever and for however long?

Thanks.

[ArK]

No if u use it enough and then recharge it counts as a cycle. i'm actually trying to drain the battery and its taking forever. 200 pics with flash has not been able to drain the battery so i've looped the mp3's and have had them playing for the last 3 hrs. The battery is really really good and seems to be getting better the more its charged. Fully charged its now saying I have 12 hrs of regular use which I find incredible.

[ArK]

actually I have just found that even though the clie says it can't use flash anymore u can still get it to use flash by just turning the flash back on. Its still not drained after taking another 100 pics with flash. I'm begining to think my battery can't be trained.

[starstreak]

Not even... even with my new unit. I can't take 100 shots in a row. Or in your case 300. either that your you're waiting like 30seconds between shots.

[ArK]

no they were continuous. But I finally wore it down 30 mintues ago and its charging. We'll see if the battery life increased or if its the same in the morning.

[starstreak]

I can't see how you do that. Anybody else here getting that much flash shots? I'm jealous.

[starstreak]

Hmm why am I "guest" in my last posts... anyways. maybe you can get close to that. Tonight I came home from work with 80% battery life. And I've been taking flash shots since I got home to kill the battery. Mind you it'll tell me my flash won't work after like 10 or so shots in a row, but if I was a few... I can keep taking shots with flash.

[ArK]

well after draining and then recharging it said i had 14 hrs and 10 min. and it didn't decrease. this was accurate. I'm going to kill it again 2nite and hope for even better. :)

[starstreak]

Mine will say close to that if either on lowest light setting or no light.

[rlc7254]

Originally posted by ArK
well after draining and then recharging it said i had 14 hrs and 10 min. and it didn't decrease. this was accurate. I'm going to kill it again 2nite and hope for even better. :)

 

Mine says that after a full charge and the back light off. When I turn the backlight on, it goes to approx. 5hrs 30min. Brightness of the backlight didn't see make a difference.

 

 

[lanchman]

Originally posted by ArK
200 pics with flash has not been able to drain the battery so i've looped the mp3's and have had them playing for the last 3 hrs. The battery is really really good and seems to be getting better the more its charged. Fully charged its now saying I have 12 hrs of regular use which I find incredible.
What kind of battery was "yours" born with? That's freakin' crazy!!! I don't think I've seen mine much above 7 hours usable. Did you get the battery on steriods or what?

[zx7rgirl]

Yes, Ark, you seem to have raised your battery really well! Did you do the initial 4 hr charge and then keep draining it on every use after?

[ArK]

yeah I did and its amazing how long it lasts now. Its actually kind of hard to drain it now. It is amazing how long the battery actually lasts and it keeps getting longer. I'm actually getting a little worried that its gonna explode but its been good for now. I may not need an extra battery if this keeps up

[ArK]

damn, i sure did say actually alot.

[blueprints]

ArK. Do share with us as in how u charged ure battery frm e day u got it. E.g: Whats e % of e battery when u charged it n how many hours u left it to charge each day/over-nite. How many hours did u get frm each cycle u drained n charged it back. Lastly, how many cycles did u put ure battery thru b4 gettin results. Thanx for sharing...

[lanchman]

What are you feeding it?

[ClieMD]

Ark you are totally right, I finally completed a 3rd full discharge and now my battery also say 14+ hours. The battery does get better and smarter as time goes along

[blueprints]

I went to e SONY Shop this noon, e shop assistant told me that e battery has a lifespan of 300 charge cycles. After e 300 cycles, its would go dead... and irreguardless of half charge or quarter charge or what-so-ever. Each time u dock ure NZ on the station for charging is considered one cycle. I feel its kinda bull... but hey juz checking wit u guys.

[ArK]

I'm at 6 charge cycles now. I charged it the first day the 4 hrs and then killed the battery. I've done this each day. The last few days its been harder to kill so i take about 2-300 flash shots with redeye ( the redeye uses the flsh twice) and then I just let the mp3 player play continuous untill its down arond 8 - 9 %. Then I charge over nite. The max I've gotten is now 16hr 43 m but it goes down to 15 hr 28 m when in use. It stays constant at the 15hrs with back light half way up. Its longer when using the mp3 player with screen off, or jsut normal use. Its 3 hrs shorter if you use wifi, and 5 if you us bluetooth. With the flahs it maxes out at about 300 flash shots. It charges bakc up a little but not by much. I think I've maxed it out and after hearing about the 300 cycles I'm not looking to try to max it out anymore. Its definatly a lot better then what previous reviews had said but I guess they didn't have enough time to play with it.

PS - Also it should be more then 300 charges bc I had charged my 5x and my nx70 more then 300 times and had no problem. I know its a different type of battery but he might ahve been trying to scare you into buying a battery.

PPS- Also it need to be more then 50% dead before the clie will count it as a cycle. Because I've charged quick a few tiems and it dosen't consider it a cycle. maybe its remembers for everytime 4 hrs of charging and considers this a cycle.

[ralchizar]

Ark- The battery god,
are you accepting disciples?
I want to have that battery life too, I am following your commandments to the letter.;)

[starstreak]

hmm got me. I'm at 5 cycles, and it hovers around 5:30min with 50% birghtness and BT on. By your means, I should be around 10 hours. which is 100% more battery life. Sounds almost too good to be true. Either that or SOny has some serious charging problems with 90% of their units.

[zx7rgirl]

That thing about 300 cycles, he may have meant 3000 cycles. I remember hearing something like this as it applied to the ipaq 3600 (with built-in battery). The ipaq is supposed to become unchargeable after that.... but 3000 is a lot of use.

[mashoutposse]

ArK's results greatly interested me, so I thought I would try to replicate them. I was able to take exactly 280 pictures with flash from full charge down to a 32% reading, where the camera application wouldn't load anymore. At 32%, the NZ estimates that it can run another 2 hours doing basic PIM work at 50% brightness.

It's also interesting to note that I am only on my second cycle (technically, this is the first time I have gotten the battery under 75% since the initial 4 hours charge), and that I had to exit and enter the program every 24 shots to empty the RAM (which means that the application had to go through its startup and shutdown 12 times).

Here are my notes:

-Took first 119 shots w/ flash without problems.

-The next 71 shots w/ flash were interrupted occasionally by "Battery Too Low For Flash" warnings.

Total: 190

-Upon trying to enter the program for the ninth time, the NZ gave its first "Battery Too Low For Camera Application" warning. I immediately made another attempt to open the app, and was successful.

-Took 24 shots with flash. Flash battery warnings became more frequent (nearly one for every shot taken).

Total: 214

-Tried to enter program for a tenth time. Had to actually wait a few seconds for the charge to creep to 40%.

-Took 23 shots with flash. Flash battery warnings occured once for every pic taken.

Total: 237

-Tried to enter program for the eleventh time. Waited several seconds for charge to creep; stalled at 38%. Turned backlight all the way down; entered program as soon as the charge hit 40%.

-Took 24 shots with flash. Every four shots or so would be followed by two straight warnings (every shot followed by at least one).

Total: 261

-Tried to enter app for a twelfth time. Charge stalled at 38% again. Turned backlight and Beam Receive OFF; charge creeped up to 41%. Started the camera app.

-Took 19 shots w/ flash (warnings actually decreased in frequency) until I got a "Battery Too Low For Camera" message, which kicked me out of the program.

Final Total: 280 w/ flash

So that's 280 shots w/ flash. I don't care about the warnings; the power necessary to take those 280 shots didn't just pop out of thin air. Almost as impressive as the 280 shots taken is the fact that the NZ can still do another 2 hours of PIM work.

As far as I'm concerned, the NZ90 has excellent battery life.

[dorianne]

Originally posted by ArK
No if u use it enough and then recharge it counts as a cycle. i'm actually trying to drain the battery and its taking forever. 200 pics with flash has not been able to drain the battery so i've looped the mp3's and have had them playing for the last 3 hrs. The battery is really really good and seems to be getting better the more its charged. Fully charged its now saying I have 12 hrs of regular use which I find incredible. I wish I could get that kind of results with my battery. My battery really drains fast, and I have 8 charge cycles on it. My battery was at 67% -- I turned my camera on, and it went down to 22%, and said that the flash is disabled. It was fully charged this afternoon, and I probably haven't used it 2 hrs. I am going to Colorado Springs in April, and want to be able to take pictures. I might be able to get good scenery pictures without the flash, but want to take a lot of family pictures -- will probably need flash for those. Will keep trying your advise.:cool:

[starstreak]

You guys are having me worry. I still can't get close to that many pictures although what I am getting is WAY better than my first NZ90, but about 3x less than you. Well Ark anyways.

I tried BT to my phone for internet and it drains pretty fast. I'm down to 81% and its been off the charger for about 6 hours, used on the internet for about 20mins. So maybe this is ok for bt.

[davy19]

only problme i run into is my battery gets hot after prolonged use....

wish it would not get so hot..after it ook the 100 pics with flash had to put unit down for a while ..lol

[starstreak]

While this unit I have is better than my last, it still sounds like there is still a problem compaired to like 3-4 people here. but on par with mostly everybody else now.

Can it be there is a problem with the batteries?

[mashoutposse]

Have you actually tried to do a torture test? I basically just took pictures one after the other until the thing couldn't do it any more.

[rsoussan]

just curious, at was resolution are you guys doing these flash test?
I can't get my clie to take more then 30 before it dies!

[mashoutposse]

1600x1200, Standard quality. Did you start from a full charge?

[starstreak]

k, i'll try the tourture test once I recharge the battery. I have BT on, 50% light,and 1600x1200 in fine mode(why take pics with 2mp camera and shoot in a lower resolution?)

[rsoussan]

ok, so I tried the test, and yeah, I can take hundreds of pictures, but only 10 or so before I get the warning, then I force the flash and get to or 3 picture etc..then the warning again,and finaly I quit the program and memory jumps from 20 percent back to 60 and the cycle continues until it drains the camera.

whats the deal?

So if the battery can do this, why make us do the dance? it must be a flaw in the programming of the clie software and battery drivers (if such a thing exist)
Just like the petition for CF drivers from Sony, we need to get a petition going to let them know they need to address this.
It's a very strange behaviour. and you know sony, unless pushed, they do nothing.

And to answer the question about the resolution, I was just wondering for speed purposes if you were using lores for this test.

thanks for the reply

[starstreak]

Anybody tried BT with a constant connection? I used it to connect to my t68i phone. My battery would drop 10% in like 2 minutes of use. which is strange. My friend with a tungston uses same program and same phone. He won't even see a drop in battery life.

oh and at 67% battery I took one shot with flash. before getting low battery (24%), but of couse I can turn it on and take a quick shot over and ove that way. after about 5 times I turned off the camera and its back to 55%. doesn't sound so hot again...

something new:
the battery gauge fluctuates(sp) alot more than the old unit. right now it loves to GO FROM 55% TO 60% THEN DROP BACK TO 55% AND i'M NOT DOING ANYTHING BUT WATCHING THE GAUGE. Ignore caps, I hit the shift key, too lazy to retype.

[ArK]

lol damn I didn't mean to make anyone worry. :) Maybe my battery just ate its vegtables.

My torture test were at 16 x 12 and fine quality with the red eye flash on. This makes it use the flash twice per every picture. I don't think its an error in fact I think we all may be killing off our secondary batteries. It probalby give it a kick start when it gets too low. i'm satisfied with the aprox 15 hrs and so I am not going to be draining again or doing the 300 shots unless I need to (ie @ mardi graw and video camera batteries die) - wink.

I think the problem that most people are having is that they use the nz for 30 minutes and put it back in the charger. Use it for a full day or 2 and then charge and you should see some improvments.

As for bt and wifif I'm going to do a full torture test today to find out if the reuslts are as good as the camera. I allready know the mp3's can go for longer then you can store mp3s so i guess the last true test is the internet. If anyone has any questions please ask.

Oh and finally in response to an earlier post I am accepting disciples. SO feel free to sign up anytime. jk

[starstreak]

The problem tho is some of us are draining it all the way first and charging it up for around 7 hours. Like me. I still only see 5hours at 50% light,BT on.
So I'm still wondering if yours is correct, then sony has alot of defective units out there. and since most people has these system,it looks like its the norm for the unit.

[dorianne]

Originally posted by ArK
lol damn I didn't mean to make anyone worry. :) Maybe my battery just ate its vegtables.

My torture test were at 16 x 12 and fine quality with the red eye flash on. This makes it use the flash twice per every picture. I don't think its an error in fact I think we all may be killing off our secondary batteries. It probalby give it a kick start when it gets too low. i'm satisfied with the aprox 15 hrs and so I am not going to be draining again or doing the 300 shots unless I need to (ie @ mardi graw and video camera batteries die) - wink.

I think the problem that most people are having is that they use the nz for 30 minutes and put it back in the charger. Use it for a full day or 2 and then charge and you should see some improvments.

As for bt and wifif I'm going to do a full torture test today to find out if the reuslts are as good as the camera. I allready know the mp3's can go for longer then you can store mp3s so i guess the last true test is the internet. If anyone has any questions please ask.

Oh and finally in response to an earlier post I am accepting disciples. SO feel free to sign up anytime. jk I am at 9 cyles, and 100% charged, and only have 5 hrs. time.:mad:

[blueprints]

dorianne,

how did u charge ure Batt when u first got ure NZ? and for e subsequent charges, how long do u keep it on for recharging.

[starstreak]

weird. today I tried to do the tourture test. after 50 shots, the unit is warm. When I stop, I have 75% battery which is good?

Anyways, I noticed my autofocus quit working. Did anybody else here notice this? Even when I set it to manual, it wouldn't focus. After a minute of resting, it would work again.

Note: its now about 30minutes later. I went into camera mode for about 10 seconds battery dropped to 34%. Got out of it, and battery goes up to 70% and stays there. 5% drop for just 10 seconds in camera mode?

[dorianne]

Originally posted by blueprints
dorianne,

how did u charge ure Batt when u first got ure NZ? and for e subsequent charges, how long do u keep it on for recharging. I charged it for the 4 hrs. and I put it on the charger every night before I go to bed. It stays on the charger all night. I do think it is getting better. The first time I took pictures, I could only do 3 flash. Today I did 18 or 19 in a row, and still had almost 100% battery left after I turned the camera off. (I didn't try to see how many I could take, because I didn't want to run the battery down -- I wanted to play games.

[starstreak]

18-19 on this unit I have yelded about 85% for me. but for some, 18-19 shots are still above 95%(I'm guessing cuz they can get into the 100's of shots on the battery)

[dorianne]

Originally posted by blueprints
dorianne,

how did u charge ure Batt when u first got ure NZ? and for e subsequent charges, how long do u keep it on for recharging. I charged it for the 4 hrs. and I put it on the charger every night before I go to bed. It stays on the charger all night. I do think it is getting better. The first time I took pictures, I could only do 3 flash. Today I did 18 or 19 in a row, and still had almost 100% battery left after I turned the camera off. (I didn't try to see how many I could take, because I didn't want to run the battery down -- I wanted to play games.

[MarkS]

Hi,

Just got my NZ90 yesterday. Started charging late afternoon. Left it in cradle till this morning. Checked battery cycles and it said 2!

This NZ90 came in sealed box....

So how could it be 2 cycles??

Also, is it better (battery-wise) to leave NZ in the cradle all the time when you're not using it?

[helmutk]

I have a theory on why people are seeing extra charge cycles when leaving their NZ90 in the cradle overnight.
When you put the CLIE in the cradle it starts to charge. After 4 - 5 hours the charging is complete and it stops charging. Then while sitting in the cradle overnight it is slowly discharging, as it would while sitting anywhere shut off. Eventually it has discharged enough for the charge circuit to recognize it needs to be re-charged and then it starts charging again and adds another charge cycle.
If this is true it would keep adding charge cycles by just leaving it in the cradle.
Anyone want to leave their NZ90 in the cradle, without touching it for a week, to test? ;)
Solution would be to not sleep as much or charge your CLIE and then take it out of the cradle and take it to bed with you. :D

[oneeyesquare]

but I do bring it to bed with me.... :D

[lisabeth]

not touch my nz for a week?? what, are you kidding??? I could go without eating longer than I could go without my nz!!

[mongo]

i'm loving my nz90 with the exception of the camera and battery....

despite giviing it an 8 hour overnight charge before using it the first time i can take 1 freaking picture then it says batery too low for flash.... even when it says it's fully charged... it lasts for hours doing general work and playing games but it seems when the camera comes on for either video or pictures the battery drops instantly to like 30% no matter what the charge was... do i have a defective battery or what....

[Marudine]

mongo, I think you are the first person to report such a scenario. If this happen to me, I'll try a few more times and if it does happen again, I'll bring it back for another new unit.

[starstreak]

mongo- thats worse than my first unit. I could at least do 5-10 shouts with my first unit.

[ArK]

1 picture. Damn um I would return it. Some people are getting more use then sony says but to get less at that price tag... return it and tell them to throw in a free pb and j.... with out the p and the and. :)

[waveman]

Hi every body,

I' m looking for buying a NZ90.

Ark say that he drain his battery. How do you drain it ?

do keep your NZ open ?


Thanks for your answer
Waveman

[JohnJ80]

To drain it, turn the backlight on as high as it will go, go in and out of the camera app and take flash pictures, and set up, in preferences, that the time to turn off is long.

I've got about 12 cycles on mine now and it is really settling in. At first I could almost watch it drain, now after a while I am getting 3 days of pretty heavy use out of it before I get down to about 35%.

I think there are several things in play here:

1. There have been some faulty batteries.

2. The LI-Ion batteriest that Sony is using are taking some time to 'age' and settle in. This is a characteristic of Li-Ion where they have to be aged at half charge for 1-3 days depending on technology. This sets the plates of the battery at a uniform spacing and properly sets up the chemistry (my understanding). Usually this is done at the factory but that may not be the case here. So, more usage and time on them with charge is maybe making the difference.

3. The fuel gage needs to settle in as it watches the battery consumption vs. voltage and the rate of charge. I noticed some funny things happening when I charge. Recently, I put it on a charger all night and it completely charges based on the orange light. The battery gauge says that there is 5 hr 00 minues left and it is 100% charged. I use it for 1 minute, turn it off. When I turn it on an hour later, it now says that I have 6 hrs 38 minutes left and it is 98% charged.

This is undoubtedly a problem with the gauge or the gauge software and not actually with the actual Li-Ion batteries.

So, I'm thinking that other than the defective batteries, this is a problem that probably will require either patience by all of us and/or a software patch from Sony to the gauge software on the NZ90. I really doubt that this is totally a battery problem (other than the aging which can be fixed).

j.

[Unregistered]

"Ark you are totally right, I finally completed a 3rd full discharge and now my battery also say 14+ hours. The battery does get better and smarter as time goes along"

Can at least one of you guys take a picture showing the BATTERY INFORMATION window for us to see this 14+hours?

Sorry but unless I see it I think you guys are trying to make people crazy by having them believe you are actually getting this much power.

I'm on my second battery (bought another at bestbuy ) and none of these two even show in the battery information window 7 hours. And yes I have done the drain thing, I'm not new trying to get good juice from my batteries.

Thanks and I look forward to the picture, I dare ya.


Unbeliever till I see it.

[starstreak]

Yes...please tell us your settings. I used my backlight at 50%. And while at 100% and wait 1minute, I have somewhere between 5:19-5:33 hours of use.
Are u getting 14+ hours with back light off?

[ptml]

I currently own a Clie NX60 and I just ordered a Clie NZ90 from www.pcconnection.com (I'm getting a free 128MB memory stick with my order because of a special promotion) which I'll be getting on Monday.

I'll let you know how the battery goes (I'm really hoping I don't have any trouble). If you’d like me to try anything special on my brand new device (when I get it on Monday), let me know. :)

[JOHNGAETANO]

My cycle is at 10. Funny because I was at 5 after 3 or 4 days, and I'm going on 3 weeks now.
The battery life has improved 10 fold. I record meeting during the day and take at least 10-20 pics per day, everyday and never see the NZ-90 under 80%.

[Enceladus]

My battery cycle is at 26.

Battery life is good and degradation is 0%.

[oneeyesquare]

Enceladus,
Nice avatar... Too bad it's not true yet!!!

My battery cycle is @ 24 cycles and getting somewhere over 7 hrs at lowest backlight.

[Enceladus]

Yeah, I'm patiently waiting. LOL

[eric2002]

I've noticed the more I use my NZ the more capacity the battery seems to have (in terms of total usage hours). When I first used the NZ my usage was around 8 hours, now after a full charge when i turn on the unit it states I have 13.5 hours of usage!! (of course as soon as I go to camera mode that drops considerably)!

[starstreak]

but at what setting? Saying 13+ hours doesn't say much. was this at 50% backlight? no backlight?

[JohnJ80]

I run my NZ90 at the last step before the backlight goes off - the screen is plenty bright.

At first when I charged mine up and did the drain thing, i got the battery meter to say 13 hours. However, in a few minutes of usage it would drop to 6 hours and actual usage was much less (mabye 4 hours).

Then after a number of cycles, it reliably, when it finishes charging and then some, will say about 6 hours and about 30 minutes. However, now this time seems to be very, very accurate.

What i am sure is now happening is that as the battery settles down from its aging, and the smart gauge circuit starts to understand how this battery behaves based on its own characteristics, then this battery is getting more usable capacity and the fuel gage is getting more accurate.

So, what I think you are really seeing when you see the 14 hours is the inaccuracy in the gauge until it dials in. I don't think anyone should trust any of the numbers out of the gauge until you have 10-15 cycles on the battery and a couple of pretty good drains.

The capacity of the battery is basically a function of the chemistry and the surface area of the plates inside. It is just not going to happen that one battery will have that much more capacity than the average. It just doesn't seem reasonable for some batteries to last 28 days at 30 minutes usage per day and others to be 10 days. That is an enormous spread in capacity.

So, the right answer is to run the battery through some cycles and then see what happens and how accurate it is. Once it settles in, I would expect that everyone will be pretty much in the 5-7 hour range depending on backlight usage. Don't trust the gauge/meter until you have done this.

j

[the_iceman]

I put a posting out probably here in this thread (too lazy to go back and look) .... and my battery showed 9+ hours of usage... with my backlight at 50%(lower cycle counts). Now that cycle count has increased cycles... it too has slowly trimmed down. Sure I've seen 14hrs when the batter first 'registers'... but it immediately drops down like I'm sure most do. I agree with John... that the batter gets smarter and ends up giving more accurate timings as the cycles increase.

I remember when I first got my NZ ... the battery was all over the charts for fluctuation ... now it is fairly steady ... without the gauge bouncing around from empty to full with everything that I do.

[cjones]

Originally posted by Unregistered
"Ark you are totally right, I finally completed a 3rd full discharge and now my battery also say 14+ hours. The battery does get better and smarter as time goes along"

Can at least one of you guys take a picture showing the BATTERY INFORMATION window for us to see this 14+hours?

Sorry but unless I see it I think you guys are trying to make people crazy by having them believe you are actually getting this much power.

I'm on my second battery (bought another at bestbuy ) and none of these two even show in the battery information window 7 hours. And yes I have done the drain thing, I'm not new trying to get good juice from my batteries.

Thanks and I look forward to the picture, I dare ya.


Unbeliever till I see it.

I too would love to see a picture of this battery charge level. There's enough folks with NZ's now that somebody should be able to do this. :)

-chris

[dorianne]

I have 2 batteries. The most I can get out of either of them is 5-6 hrs. on about 30% backlight! :-(

[seven]

me 2...i got 2 batteries too. the most i could get from them is still 5-6 hours with about 50% backlight. now the charge cycles for them are 6 & 8. think i just leave it on the charger too often (daily throughout my office hours) without completely draining them...some old habbit since my palm Vx....

[terrycm]

Hi

3 cycles

Terry

[YTTAN]

My battery cycle is at 4.
Battery life is degradation is 0%.

I test it start at batt = 62% with 60 shots at (800x600 dpi standard) at one go including first 12 shots w /flash only. Due to the cam not allow me to shoot it further with flash.

When i out from the camera, it shown batt left only 18% then bound back to 38% in 1 min. I can't launch once i out of it although i still can continue without flash.
before the ark's test my cycle is at 4. But after that i check it again, it is 5 cycles!!! why?

If ark test is true for himself, he must be very lucky to have such a good battery life. For mine, i calculate from my test which i can easily take 250 shots but without flash of course.

Can anyone willing to test it in other ways? For example, from 100% shoot for 5 shots w/ flash with resting 2 mins interval repeat it until it's can't be launch the camera again?

I will do it the same too just to see how is my battery compare to other.

[YTTAN]

BTW my NZ is only 5 days old with 5 cycles already. It is norm? I saw some got 10 cycles only at 3 weeks.

[YTTAN]

After i had sent the prev. message the batt life jump to 45% with 3hours 43 mins usable which allow me to take photo again?. That is funny and inaccurate battery behavior!!!

[blueprints]

Where do u guys get the latest Netfront 3.0 Rev 1.1.3(en)??? By e way any nice software sites/ programes to recommend? Thanx for sharing. Cheers.

[YTTAN]

From NZ CD...

[sony-kuri]

Can someone please tell me how long they can use their Clie for (at 50% backlight) if they have their bluetooth enabled??

By the way, thanks for the super tips on the camera front... it was very helpful! I can now actually TAKE pictures on my NZ instead of wanting to throw it out the window coz I could only take 5!

Back to BT... does anyone know how long?

[sony-kuri]

Can someone please tell me how long they can use their Clie for (at 50% backlight) if they have their bluetooth enabled??

By the way, thanks for the super tips on the camera front... it was very helpful! I can now actually TAKE pictures on my NZ instead of wanting to throw it out the window coz I could only take 5!

Back to BT... does anyone know how long?

[YTTAN]

I can surf with BT with T610 for one hours from battery life 98% to 88% at battery cycle of 31.

[Unregistered]

to: yttan and any other bt experts.

hi ...

do you have any difficulties to hotsynch thru bt?
i have nx80 with ms bt and dell pc + belkin bt.
almost a week already, but i still could not get hotsynch my pda to my pc thru bt.

the condition is that my pc recognizes my pda in the "my bt places" and in my pda i have "dell pc" as a trusted devices.

when i try to hotsynch, the connection bulb in my belkin is on, a sign that there's a connection between devices. also the little blue bulb in the ms bt is always on.

after waiting a minute, there's nothing comes up in my pc and there's an error message in the pda such as "the connection between your handheld computer and the desktop could not be established. Please check your setup and try again"

i already check all requirement steps as mentioned in the manual, also all setting in the preferences, i.e. bt and connection. there's nothing wrong in that.

anything to do with the hotsynch manager that i need to setup?
such as com port, etc?

oh man .... i'm very sick & tired of this bt thing.
also, is there any apps that allow me to do the transferring file from my pc to cf card directly thru bt?

thanks