How fast is your SD card on Tungsten T3?

[keelinlee]

Tested Hagiwara 512MB SD with VFSMark (http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&prodID=34400) on TT3

HAGIWARA 512MB SD (MODEL# HPC-SD512T)

File Create - 38%
File Delete - 18%
File Write - 7%
File Read - 587%
File Seek - 907%
DB Export - 27%
DB Import - 1045%
Record Access - 683%
Resource Access - 673%

VFS Mark - 442

[KenSong]

Here's mine.

HAGIWARA 128MB SD x2 speed on my T3

File Create: 243%
File Delete: 144%
File Write: 70%
File Read: 533%
File Seek: 590%
DB Export: 220%
DB Import: 548%
Record Access: 476%
Resource Access: 457%

VFSMark: 364

And this one is my HAGIWARA 512MB


File Create: 34%
File Delete: 16%
File Write: 11%
File Read: 725%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 22%
DB Import: 1122%
Record Access: 724%
Resource Access: 685%

VFSMark: 490

[win.ph]

How fast is SD compare to MMC???

[keelinlee]

MMC Standard Specification

Capacity 2 / 4 / 8 / 16 / 32 / 64 / 128MB

Transfer Speed - 300KB/second

Read:
- 1.7 (sustained) Mbyte/second
- 2.5 (burst) Mbyte/second

Write:
- 0.4 (sustained) Mbyte/second
- 2.5 (burst) Mbyte/second


v.s.


SD

Read:
- 8MB~512MB�3MB/second

Write:
- 8/16MB�1.4MB/second
- 32/64/128MB�2MB/second
- 256/512MB�10MB/second

[Rokiteer]

At those speeds, storing songs is faster than they can be ripped. So I am not sure I can see a big advantage to the SD.

[dbytes]

Lexar 256MB SD (memory by Panasonic)

File Create: 474%
File Delete: 284%
File Write: 133%
File Read: 587%
File Seek: 786%
DB Export: 321%
DB Import: 794%
Record Access: 709%
Resource Access: 673%

VFSMark: 529

[keelinlee]

wow :cool: the writing speed of Lexar SD is super

[capuns]

Panasonic SH256 SD (256 MB)

File Create: 445%
File Delete: 284%
File Write: 137%
File Read: 587%
File Seek: 842%
DB Export: 316%
DB Import: 778%
Record Access: 658%
Resource Access: 629%

VFSMark: 519

______________________
- Ralph

[L-3]

PNY SD-M256B1

File Create: 35%
File Delete: 19%
File Write: 7%
File Read: 580%
File Seek: 907%
DB Export: 26%
DB Import: 1045%
Record Access: 709%
Resource Access: 698%

VFSMark: 447

Looks like PNY and Hagiwara might be the same card.....

[keelinlee]

Originally posted by L-3
...Looks like PNY and Hagiwara might be the same card..... [/B]

The Hagiwara is using Toshiba chip :rolleyes:

[Jetlag]

My T3 fried my 256mb SD card....so my response time is zilch

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by keelin
The Hagiwara is using Toshiba chip :rolleyes:
Same with the PNY. My results look like the PNY above--write speed stinks but reading is very fast.

[keelinlee]

Thinking to get Lexar SD but is very limited choice in my areas
By the way, does Lexar come with 1GB SD?

[alexO]

Hagiwara 128MB (by Panasonic)

File Create: 250%
File Delete: 145%
File Write: 59%
File Read: 580%
File Seek: 842%
DB Export: 185%
DB Import: 877%
Record Access: 724%
Resource Access: 698%

VFSMark: 484

[LanMan]

Do any of you miss MSImport with your new T3's, or is SD access so fast that MSImport becomes irrelevant?

[tanker_bob]

No, SD write access is actually pretty slow, but reading is blazingly fast. I did miss MS Import until I registered Card Export (http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&sid=3A31A096-D15C-4D25-8EC970DFF9E5210F&prodID=44626). It does the same thing for Palm that MS Import does for Sonys, but not for free. Be sure to get version 1.10, as it clears up some earlier bugs.

[keelinlee]

I think the card reader is more suitable for me :)

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by keelin
I think the card reader is more suitable for me :)
Yeah, they are about the same price as Card Export, but the latter is so convenient and doesn't take up any extra room on my desk. I just leave my T3 in the cradle and go nuts transferring stuff around. I just can't see pulling the card out for every transfer. To each his/her own. :)

[keelinlee]

Had some bad experience on MS Import, so decided go to card reader since my NR70V :p

[LanMan]

Originally posted by Tanker Bob
No, SD write access is actually pretty slow, but reading is blazingly fast. I did miss MS Import until I registered Card Export (http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&sid=3A31A096-D15C-4D25-8EC970DFF9E5210F&prodID=44626). It does the same thing for Palm that MS Import does for Sonys, but not for free. Be sure to get version 1.10, as it clears up some earlier bugs.

Tanker, Card Export does look nice, but you aren't kidding that it's not freeware. At $20 I would be hard pressed to justify it, but I appreciate your input because that would solve my problem. I just wish that Palm included it as Sony inluded MSImport (even on my old T415).

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by LanMan
Tanker, Card Export does look nice, but you aren't kidding that it's not freeware. At $20 I would be hard pressed to justify it, but I appreciate your input because that would solve my problem. I just wish that Palm included it as Sony inluded MSImport (even on my old T415).
Me too. Palm has never been as supportive of utility software as Sony.

$20 bucks isn't cheap, but writing a USB driver for Windows and Palm OS isn't easy. You might try it for a while and see what you think. You can also use PDA Avenue's discount code on PalmGear (pdavenue) for a 10% savings until Oct 15.

[yoopermjm]

Wow, talk about slow write speeds! Just got my PNY 256 (Toshiba) today, and it took 30 minutes to load msdictionary on to the card! My longest ever hotsync. Whew, glad I don't do that every day.

[Steller]

Another Panasonic SDH256

File Create: 557%
File Delete: 316%
File Write: 148%
File Read: 594%
File Seek: 842%
DB Export: 385%
DB Import: 786%
Record Access: 683%
Resource Access: 640%

VFSMark: 550

[keelinlee]

Originally posted by yoopermjm
Wow, talk about slow write speeds! Just got my PNY 256 (Toshiba) today, and it took 30 minutes to load msdictionary on to the card! My longest ever hotsync. Whew, glad I don't do that every day.

If the file size is larger than 2MB, suugest use Card Export or card reader for transfer ;)

[Steller]

FYI
The file-transfer speed using Card Export is between 100-110 kB/s at my System.
Not to compare with a USB2 Card Reader but pretty 1/4 of the max. USB1.1 speed. Works far better then QuickInstall.

Steller

[MonkeyK]

SimpleTech 256MB


File Create: 465%
File Delete: 306%
File Write: 134%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 227%
DB Import: 877%
Record Access: 841%
Resource Access: 783%

VFSMark:604

Now if that only meant somthing when I am installing files...

[n0m0n]

Can anyone post the speeds of a 256 MB SanDisk card?

[Ddeath]

Apacer 256MB SD, Sandisk OEM.

VFSMark Results 20/11/03

File Create: 468%
File Delete: 206%
File Write: 54%
File Read: 635%
File Seek: 983%
DB Export: 68%
DB Import: 919%
Record Access: 738%
Resource Access: 711%

VFSMark: 531

[hiro]

JFYI, you can find more test results in this thread (http://www.palmonecity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=918) .

--Scott

[nekrataal]

256MB PNY

SD256 Toshiba

VFSMark Results

File Create: 32%
File Delete: 17%
File Write: 7%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1475%
DB Export: 27%
DB Import: 1230%
Record Access: 905%
Resource Access: 872%

VFSMark: 589

[n0m0n]

What program are you using to get this data?
I have just purchased a San Disk and I would like to see the speeds on it as well.
And compare it against your findings.
Thanks

[matrix42]

The program is VFSMark, just do a serach for that on PalmGear, or Google (it's free)
-S

[spoirier]

Just click on, VFSMark (http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&prodID=34400), to download it.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by spoirier
Just click on, VFSMark (http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&prodID=34400), to download it.
Thanks to both of you.
I will download it when I get back home.
Is it pretty simple to use.
Does it just setup and run all the tests itself???
Thanks

[tanker_bob]

Just tell it to go and it goes. It does take a while to run, especially on a Toshiba card.

[pae]

I'm happy with these .. previously having a Clie T625C

VFSMark Results 27/11/03

Panasonic 256Meg

File Create: 506%
File Delete: 300%
File Write: 141%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 261%
DB Import: 763%
Record Access: 696%
Resource Access: 650%

VFSMark: 569
Tested with about 120Meg free of the 256Meg (rest is full of data and MP3 files)

[wakatam]

Sandisk 256MB

File Create: 95%
File Delete: 60%
File Write: 62%
File Read: 662%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 64%
DB Import: 908%
Record Access: 593%
Resource Access: 768%

VFSMark: 476

These scores are much better than what was posted for Sandisk in an older thread! Writing scores still suck though.

[n0m0n]

Ok this was my Sandisk 256MB cards results

File Create: 127%
File Delete: 85%
File Write: 25%
File Read: 365%
File Seek: 406%
DB Export: 121%
DB Import: 387%
Record Access: 397%
Resource Access: 384%

VFSMark: 255


Why are mine so different?
Now I have files on this card.
Should they be cleanly formatted cards when tested???

[n0m0n]

Ok this was my Sandisk 256MB cards results

File Create: 153%
File Delete: 86%
File Write: 24%
File Read: 368%
File Seek: 406%
DB Export: 108%
DB Import: 405%
Record Access: 425%
Resource Access: 384%

VFSMark: 262
I just ran the test again and why would the results be different with no changes made on my part???

[Shamrock]

Is there any way to identify the "real" manufacturer and model number under all of these different labels?

[tanker_bob]

Do you have the ROM patch installed? If not, turning off the T3 and turning it back on slows it down about 20% or so.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by Shamrock
Is there any way to identify the "real" manufacturer and model number under all of these different labels?
Go into CardInfo. It will tell you the manufacturer of the card.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by Tanker Bob
Do you have the ROM patch installed? If not, turning off the T3 and turning it back on slows it down about 20% or so.

Yes, I have the SD fix...
I would not be testing this San Disk card if I did not...
I don't have the $$$ to be frying cards!!!
Are you all testing this on newly formatted empty cards?
Now I have formatted this card, and migrated about 125 MB onto the card so the test is being performed with alot of files /app's on it
Does this matter???
Thanks

[tanker_bob]

As long as you have enough room for the test, it shouldn't matter. Card access is purely electronic.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by Tanker Bob
As long as you have enough room for the test, it shouldn't matter. Card access is purely electronic.

Then these readings dont make sence to me.

[tanker_bob]

Successive tests on my PNY (Toshiba) cards show very little variation. Try testing after a no-notify reset. That will prevent programs from loading that may eat up CPU time in the background.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by Tanker Bob
Successive tests on my PNY (Toshiba) cards show very little variation. Try testing after a no-notify reset. That will prevent programs from loading that may eat up CPU time in the background.

Well I guess my question is how does everyone else run this test?
On a newly formatted card?
Do they no-notify reset first?
I want to do this as everyone else does so that the readings are gained within the same perimeters as the other tests.

[matika]

Tested on my TT3 with ROM Patch

XYZ brand 128SD / Transcend 256 SD / Panasonic 256 SD
File Create 1066% / 195% / 485%
File Delete 944% / 85% / 311%
File Write 56% / 26% / 142%
File Read 760% / 356% / 587%
File Seek 1072% / 393% / 842%
DB Export 160% / 51% / 326%
DB Import 897% / 381% / 786%
Record Access 952% / 406% / 683%
Resource Access 914% / 369% / 640%
VFSMark 757 / 251 / 533

The XYZ brand is amazing, which was a sample from a SD
card vendor.

It really beats Panasonic 256 MB SD.

[wakatam]

Originally posted by n0m0n
Ok this was my Sandisk 256MB cards results

File Create: 153%
File Delete: 86%
File Write: 24%
File Read: 368%
File Seek: 406%
DB Export: 108%
DB Import: 405%
Record Access: 425%
Resource Access: 384%

VFSMark: 262
I just ran the test again and why would the results be different with no changes made on my part???

I'm not sure why they're different, but I'm using an off-the-shelf sandisk card. I only bought my 256 sandisk AFTER I installed Palmone's T3 Patch.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by wakatam
I'm not sure why they're different, but I'm using an off-the-shelf sandisk card. I only bought my 256 sandisk AFTER I installed Palmone's T3 Patch.

The same here.
I just got the card and have had the patch installed since day one of its release.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by matika
Tested on my TT3 with ROM Patch

XYZ brand 128SD / Transcend 256 SD / Panasonic 256 SD
File Create 1066% / 195% / 485%
File Delete 944% / 85% / 311%
File Write 56% / 26% / 142%
File Read 760% / 356% / 587%
File Seek 1072% / 393% / 842%
DB Export 160% / 51% / 326%
DB Import 897% / 381% / 786%
Record Access 952% / 406% / 683%
Resource Access 914% / 369% / 640%
VFSMark 757 / 251 / 533

The XYZ brand is amazing, which was a sample from a SD
card vendor.

It really beats Panasonic 256 MB SD.

Can you share what XYZ is???
Or is it a secret new 32x card???
Does the size 128 vs 256mb have anything to do with the speed difference?

[pae]

Originally posted by n0m0n
Can you share what XYZ is???
Or is it a secret new 32x card???
Does the size 128 vs 256mb have anything to do with the speed difference?

I was about to ask the same question! :D

[matika]

Originally posted by n0m0n
Can you share what XYZ is???
Or is it a secret new 32x card???
Does the size 128 vs 256mb have anything to do with the speed difference?

I'm not able to announce the brand yet. Since it is not
a mass-production product yet. And I'm also testing
the stability of this card.

I don't think the size of the card really matters. Although
Panasonic's 128SD is marked 2 MB/s and 10 MB/s for
the 256 SD

[edeab220]

Thanks to Black Friday, I got my first SD card :D.

256MB Lexar SD Card

File Create: 279%
File Delete 262%
File Write: 59%
File Read: 760%
File Seek: 983%
DB Export: 160%
DB Import: 829%
Record Access: 978%
Resource Access: 936%

VFSMark: 582

[slippy4twenty]

I just got two 256mb Sandisk SD's, fully patched, soft reset, exit Zlauncher, ran VFSmark

create 140
delete 217
write 62
read 702
seek 1072
DB exp 74
DB Imp 908
Rec Acc 724
Res Ac 783
VFSMARK 520

Whats the deal with that???

[G-San]

Is there anyone woth numbers on the "new" 32x high speed cards (256MB) from Lexar ?

[nev]

T|T3 with update - Lexar 256MB (Panasonic)

Freshly bought - maybe I installed 1 mp3 :
File Create: 489%
File Delete: 311%
File Write: 138%
File Read: 843%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 252%
DB Import: 941%
Record Access: 978%
Resource Access: 893%
VFSMark: 669

Then after using it a bit (using it all up, deleting, etc) and currently has about 80meg of mp3s and photos on it :
File Create: 475%
File Delete: 303%
File Write: 134%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 238%
DB Import: 877%
Record Access: 882%
Resource Access: 817%
VFSMark: 614

And a few moments later overclocked to 532MHz with PXAClocker :
File Create: 497%
File Delete: 320%
File Write: 139%
File Read: 946%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 271%
DB Import: 990%
Record Access: 1034%
Resource Access: 960%
VFSMark: 704

Nev

[G-San]

I finally bought a 32x Lexar card and here are my results:

factory formatted:

VFSMark Results

File Create: 512%
File Delete: 304%
File Write: 137%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 243%
DB Import: 829%
Record Access: 724%
Resource Access: 685%

VFSMark: 582

Reformatted on the (patched) T3:

VFSMark Results

File Create: 472%
File Delete: 291%
File Write: 140%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 983%
DB Export: 255%
DB Import: 829%
Record Access: 724%
Resource Access: 685%

VFSMark: 568

After writing and deleting some files on the T3:

VFSMark Results

File Create: 507%
File Delete: 307%
File Write: 136%
File Read: 725%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 232%
DB Import: 867%
Record Access: 738%
Resource Access: 685%

VFSMark: 585

Clocking a batch of 40 mp3's (about 200MB) during hotsync to the card, I measured a 25KB tranfer rate.

The batch of mp3's writting on the same card using a USB2 SD cardreader gave me a transfer rate of 2.6MB

This make me conclude that there is really NO point in buying a high-speed card, but that any Panasonic card will do fine (as seen from the earlier results on this forum).

My High-Speed 32x 256MB Lexar card was made in Japan (says so on the box), and CardInfo tells me it is a Panasonic card.

SH256
Panasonic
Secure Digital Card
Device Id: SH256_3ADB8979390A07

My next card is going to be a standard Panasonic.

[Shamrock]

I am contemplating buying a Simple Tech 512 SD card. This represents a pretty "major" expense for me. Anyone know what the specs on this are? Anything better?

How about the 'real' mfg. Panasonic? Toshiba?

thanx...r

[snark]

Panasonic High Performance 256 MB SD :

VFSMark Results

File Create: 452%
File Delete: 283%
File Write: 132%
File Read: 725%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 255%
DB Import: 857%
Record Access: 861%
Resource Access: 800%

VFSMark: 604 :D

Card Info returns:

SH256
Panasonic
Secure Digital Card
Device Id: SH256_3B58029A390B07

[yaniv79]

specs :

palm TT3
available RAM : 25 MB ( about 140 software titles installed in RAM )

simple tech 256MB SD card
( panasonic inside )
71.7 MB free of 243.8 MB

CPU overclocked with Lightspeed 1.3 to 600

VFSMark Results

File Create: 489%
File Delete: 311%
File Write: 136%
File Read: 875%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 271%
DB Import: 930%
Record Access: 952%
Resource Access: 872%

VFSMark: 668

once i got a 707 result :-)

yaniv

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by yaniv79
specs :

palm TT3
available RAM : 25 MB ( about 140 software titles installed in RAM )

simple tech 256MB SD card
( panasonic inside )
71.7 MB free of 243.8 MB

CPU overclocked with Lightspeed 1.3 to 600

VFSMark Results

File Create: 489%
File Delete: 311%
File Write: 136%
File Read: 875%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 271%
DB Import: 930%
Record Access: 952%
Resource Access: 872%

VFSMark: 668

once i got a 707 result :-)

yaniv

What exactly did you overclock with LightSpeed?
App's system what??

[Weapon X]

Now, feast your eyes on this impressive performance ;)

T|T3 w/ROM Patch SanDisk 128MB SD Card - 23MB free - No overclocking - ZLauncher disabled

VFSMark Results

File Create: 34%
File Delete: 19%
File Write: 5%
File Read: 374%
File Seek: 513%
DB Export: 18%
DB Import: 339%
Record Access: 416%
Resource Access: 376%

VFSMark: 232

Hey, :mad: Did I hear a chuckle out there?


--Weapon X

[alex_lorenzo]

This must be twin to your card

T|3 /ROM Patch + SanDisk 128 nearly full!

File Create: 38%
File Delete: 20%
File Write: 7%
File Read: 365%
File Seek: 491%
DB Export: 18%
DB Import: 345%
Record Access: 452%
Resource Access: 431%

VFSMark: 240

BUT...
I just ordered a Sandisk ULTRA-II 256. I hope to see SOME difference..

[ZhaoYun]

My Transcend 256SD Card with T3 Patch with pathetic score.

File Create: 68%
File Delete: 88%
File Write: 30%
File Read: 377%
File Seek: 472%
DB Export: 36%
DB Import: 401%
Record Access: 470%
Resource Access: 431%

VFSMark 263

[sil9mm]

Has anyone heard of an IO Data card ?

[n0m0n]

Ok so I guess the fastest card is the Panasonic manufactured one, right?

[snark]

Looks like, indeed!
But only the 256 ones or bigger. Smallest ones are slower.

[n0m0n]

Yeah why is that ???
That does not make sense to me

[alex_lorenzo]

I just got the new SanDisk Ultra II, 256 Mb, running in my T3, 152 Mb free

VFSMark Results

File Create: 180%
File Delete: 356%
File Write: 121%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 341%
DB Import: 953%
Record Access: 804%
Resource Access: 673%

VFSMark: 593

I sort of expected a little more...

[snark]

Originally posted by n0m0n
Yeah why is that ???
That does not make sense to me

Compare their speed here (http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelList?storeId=11251&catalogId=11005&catGroupId=11049). The 256 and 512 are rated 10 MB/s while the smaller ones are 2 MB/s. I didn't make this up myself.

[redrum]

Lexar 256MB (Panasonic)

File Create: 608%
File Delete: 289%
File Write: 133%
File Read: 1189%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 432%
DB Import: 1090%
Record Access: 1206%
Resource Access: 1097%

VFS Mark: 802

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by snark
Compare their speed here (http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelList?storeId=11251&catalogId=11005&catGroupId=11049). The 256 and 512 are rated 10 MB/s while the smaller ones are 2 MB/s. I didn't make this up myself.

I understand what you are saying and see that this is the case, I just dont understand why the smaller cards would be slower then the larger ones.

[wakatam]

Originally posted by alex_lorenzo
I just got the new SanDisk Ultra II, 256 Mb, running in my T3, 152 Mb free


This may be a dumb question, but how do you know if the Sandisk is an "Ultra II"? I assume that's a "better" SD card from Sandisk?

Reason I'm asking is because I have a 256MB Sandisk SD, and VFSMarks hit 400+, which is very different from the 200+ I've been reading in this forum.

[alex_lorenzo]

Sandisk ultra II is a new product by SanDisk, comes both in SD and Compact Flash. They claim read speed of 10mb/s and write speeds of 9mb/s. I bought it from www.mymemory.co.uk, the price was ok. These cards are black and the label shows the new logo with big Ultra II letters. In the brochure they also show the supposedly delayed Wi-fi card (both SD and CF) a new? firewire reader, and other goodies.

I wanted a panasonic card, which had always been reported as extremely fast, but couldn't get one in Spain (some american dealers just don't send these products overseas, and clerks in photodealer shops over here don't seem to know that aside from their capacity, cards have SPEEDS too!), i even knew the exact number of the fastest series of Panasonic cards. Apparently the Ultra II sandisks were released very recently. IN some sandisk web sites they are just not mentioned.

I am pretty sure SD have some card batches that just get better results, I don't know where they manufacture it, etc, and until the UII, there was no way to tell one type of SD card from another.

[Gazpacho]

http://palmclub.nl/tips/vfsbenchmark/

Hopefully it'll add some info to this thread. General tendency is that Panasonic cards, also branded Lexar, is far superior than Sandisk, Toshiba etc. and such.

[wakatam]

Originally posted by alex_lorenzo


I am pretty sure SD have some card batches that just get better results, I don't know where they manufacture it, etc, and until the UII, there was no way to tell one type of SD card from another.

I must be lucky then :D

[JLHoffy]

Card Info says it's a Sandisk SD Card:

Test I Test II

File Create: 145% 146%
File Delete: 60% 60%
File Write: 66% 67%
File Read: 672% 662%
File Seek: 1072% 1072%
DB Export: 59% 59%
DB Import: 919% 919%
Record Access: 770% 770%
Resource Acc: 800% 783%

VFSMark: 507 504

Jon

[Shamrock]

I hate to say it but I was hoping to put all this great info into a purchase, however it looks like prices have gone through the roof in the last 2 weeks (Simple Tech 512 went from $178 to $229 and rising). Is this seasonal or the start of an ugly trend?
...r

[exiii]

Can anyone translate these read/write speeds to MB/s?

[lmpmd]

Panasonic 256 mb card on T3:
VFSMark Results

File Create: 509%
File Delete: 302%
File Write: 140%
File Read: 725%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 282%
DB Import: 847%
Record Access: 683%
Resource Access: 650%

VFSMark: 578

Not bad!

[cnolan]

T3 - Normal setup, no overclocking
SanDisk 256MB SD Card
161mb free out of 241

VFSMark Results

File Create: 413%
File Delete: 202%
File Write: 21%
File Read: 703%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 64%
DB Import: 908%
Record Access: 754%
Resource Access: 724%

VFSMark: 540

[n0m0n]

How can some get such high scores with San Disk memory and others get such a poor performance???

[Weapon X]

Hi, Weapon X here, Feliz Navidad

You remember me from postings like "boy, my SD card's on reverse" and others.

Well I decided to put a Panasonic 16 MB SD (got it free from Palm when I bought my first Palm: an m125) through the VFSMark and check this out"


Tungsten T3, w/ ROM Patch, ZLauncher ENABLED. NO OC
VFSMark Results

File Create: 238%
File Delete: 132%
File Write: 52%
File Read: 748%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 151%
DB Import: 867%
Record Access: 646%
Resource Access: 629%

VFSMark: 515

Impressive, no?

Now compare it with a new run I gave to my SanDisk 128 MB:

VFSMark Results

File Create: 36%
File Delete: 19%
File Write: 7%
File Read: 383%
File Seek: 513%
DB Export: 24%
DB Import: 403%
Record Access: 381%
Resource Access: 358%

VFSMark: 236

Broken in half by the tiny Panasonic. :eek:

[xanderprime]

Here are 2 benchmarks from my 2 256MB cards:

PNY (shows up as a Toshiba) 256MB
VFSMark Results

File Create: 40%
File Delete: 21%
File Write: 10%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1311%
DB Export: 29%
DB Import: 1211%
Record Access: 882%
Resource Access: 834%

VFSMark: 563


Sandisk Ultra II 256 MB
VFSMark Results

File Create: 727%
File Delete: 377%
File Write: 69%
File Read: 748%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 336%
DB Import: 990%
Record Access: 882%
Resource Access: 853%

VFSMark: 672

Xanderprime

[cbombrun]

Sandisk 256MB (China)

File Create: 102%
File Delete: 199%
File Write: 63%
File Read: 703%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 57%
DB Import: 897%
Record Access: 683%
Resource Access: 662%

VFS Mark: 505

Has anyone reported a pb with Sandisk card from China as i heard a rumor ?

[bobes]

holy crap... just got a pny 256 (for 39.99 after rebate)...
what's up with the file write speed...

used to have Panasonic and it blazes during a sync... when I sync now, it takes forever to write to the card.

sigh.... Guess u get what u pay for...

[alex_lorenzo]

I see here similar global results with different cards, but I'd like to know if some items are more relevant when considering the overal performance of the card.

I specifically refer (without much proofing) to:
File Create, Delete, Write*, Read, and Export*, Import
especially those marked *

[Geckotek]

PNY 256
VFSMark Results

File Create: 114%
File Delete: 106%
File Write: 21%
File Read: 725%
File Seek: 983%
DB Export: 67%
DB Import: 887%
Record Access: 861%
Resource Access: 817%

VFSMark: 509

Mixed feelings.....probably return.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by bobes
holy crap... just got a pny 256 (for 39.99 after rebate)...
what's up with the file write speed...

used to have Panasonic and it blazes during a sync... when I sync now, it takes forever to write to the card.

sigh.... Guess u get what u pay for...
Well, when the T3 SD card issue was alive, the PNY card was one of the very few for the most part that worked. The PNY card made by Toshiba has a very slow write speed and that has been already ascertained by many users so far. Read speeds are terrific, but write... well... forget about it... :( My Panasonic card is considerably faster, there's no need to even time it. It only takes a second or so to see the tremendous speed increase in writing to the card.:D The PNY is a good solid card with lifetime warranty, but writing to it is damned slow!

[stef]

Kingston 256 (toshiba)


VFSMark Results

File Create: 32%
File Delete: 17%
File Write: 7%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1311%
DB Export: 25%
DB Import: 1138%
Record Access: 952%
Resource Access: 893%

VFSMark: 567

Cheers

[Geckotek]

Bought a Kingston onsale @ Fry's

VFSMark Results

File Create: 46%
File Delete: 23%
File Write: 6%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1311%
DB Export: 26%
DB Import: 1192%
Record Access: 882%
Resource Access: 853%

VFSMark: 563

It's going back

[Geckotek]

Sandisk 256 on sale @ Costco

VFSMark Results

File Create: 408%
File Delete: 236%
File Write: 26%
File Read: 703%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 249%
DB Import: 978%
Record Access: 786%
Resource Access: 783%

VFSMark: 582

May keep this one.

[tanker_bob]

I just bought a new 512 MB Panasonic SD card on eBay, and what a speed difference! First I formatted the card in the T3, then ran VFSMark.

VFSMark Results - 512MB card

File Create: 555%
File Delete: 331%
File Write: 158%
File Read: 725%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 302%
DB Import: 786%
Record Access: 724%
Resource Access: 662%

VFSMark: 590

For reference, my 256 MB PNY (Toshiba) returned:

File Create: 42%
File Delete: 20%
File Write: 6%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1475%
DB Export: 24%
DB Import: 919%
Record Access: 683%
Resource Access: 662%

VFSMark: 507

The overall score doesn't begin to tell the story. The Panasonic leaves the Toshiba in the dust, especially writing. Panasonic may be a bit more expensive, but the difference in performance is well worth it IMO.

[icefabio]

Transcend 128Mb SD

File Create - 1028%
File Delete - 918%
File Write - 29%
File Read - 725%
File Seek - 983%
DB Export - 100%
DB Import - 877%
Record Access - 928%
Resource Access - 893%

VFS Mark - 720

[motionmind]

This is why Sandisk sucks...the sandisk Ultra sounds really nice though.

VFSMark Results for 256M Sandisk

File Create: 53%
File Delete: 15%
File Write: 27%
File Read: 315%
File Seek: 472%
DB Export: 26%
DB Import: 403%
Record Access: 452%
Resource Access: 384%

VFSMark: 238

[ndep]

SimpleTech Pro 256MB

VFSMark Results

File Create: 432%
File Delete: 289%
File Write: 135%
File Read: 725%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 246%
DB Import: 847%
Record Access: 804%
Resource Access: 738%

VFSMark: 587

[tanker_bob]

Sounds like the SimpleTech Pro is a Panasonic. Is that what CardInfo shows?

[tanker_bob]

My SD card review is now posted at PDABuyersGuide (http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/tips/PNY_Panasonic_SD_cards.htm). More than just a review, though, I discuss the significance of VFSMark testing procedures and test results. It seemed like the logical follow-on to this thread.

[dgoeg]

Nice review!

If I had read this earlier I wouldn't have bought a card, which is actually a Toshiba one.

Unfortunately my new SD card is almost unusable, it's so sloooooooooow when it comes to writing.
Backup time increases more than factor 10 and copying some mp3s "provides an experience akin to watching grass grow in the arctic" [Tanker Bob]

I fully agree with Tanker Bob's opinion.

[motionmind]

anyone seen any benchmarks of the 1gb cards yet?

[tanker_bob]

Courtesy of Kenny Song posted elsewhere on this forum:

"Sandisk 1 MB SD card in T3

File Create: 319%
File Delete: 115%
File Write: 24%
File Read: 725%
File Seek: 907%
DB Export: 115%
DB Import: 838%
Record Access: 696%
Resource Access: 724%

VFSMark: 495

I had about 60% free space when I did the test. After formatting the card, Card Info read 968.3 MB available. The VFSMark test took about 4 minutes, which was faster than my 512 MB card."

Kenny's test time fits my hypothesis as stated in my article. For comparison, my 66 MHz Sony T665C had a File Write of 25% as well. Draw your own conclusions.

[John_Blasdell]

I've used VFSMark v1.0 since it was first released with other Kopsis software to make Compact Flash adapters function with the Handspring Visor. Various websites now talk about "VFSMark v1.1," and PalmGear and FreeWarePalm list v1.1, yet the Palm "Info" (after installing them) shows these as v1.0.

Is there a real v1.1? If so, where can I get the REAL v1.1?

Thanks,
John

[sayem_bashir]

Sorry silly question, but how do you find out the spped of your sd card?

thanks in advance.

[tanker_bob]

Originally posted by sayem_bashir
Sorry silly question, but how do you find out the spped of your sd card?

thanks in advance.
Download VFSMark 1.1 (http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&SID=6691244B-7E95-2C26-2BB3D63CCF9A68F7&PartnerREF=&prodID=34400) and run it on your system. You can save the result to a memo for later reference. I also recommend that you time the test with a stopwatch.

[John_Blasdell]

Followup to my post about VFSMark. The post just above says, "Download VFSMark 1.1" and includes a link to a file at PalmGear. The README file in that Zip says it's "VFSMark 1.0". Install the .PRC, go to the Launcher/Info, and it says "v1.0". I suspect an erroneous version number was attached to this file at PalmGear or elsewhere, and the mistake stuck. I think the ONLY version that exists is v1.0. No problem -- 1.0 works fine -- it just sends people on a wild goose chase for a non-existent "upgrade." TrackerDog started me searching for this, but so far no 1.1.

[tanker_bob]

The makefile in the archive says it's version 1.1. The About file string doesn't have the version number in it. If you look at the comments in the source code, it says it's revision 1.3 and the resource file is revision 1.2.

BTW, I forgot that the souce code came with the executable. It turns out that it tests small and large block writes (and reads) during the tests. I had previously thought it did only small block writes because of the time it took to complete. In follow up to my previous testing, I watched the test on my 512 MB Panasonic and can see the change-over between write methods by watching the progress bar. Large block writes go much faster than small block writes and you can see the change in the movement of the progress bar. VFSMark does 1000 small block writes and 100 large block ones. It does the same for reads as well.

[fastpat]

VFSMark results for Sandisk Ultra II 512MB 66x
..........................1st run.........................2nd run
File create:..........969%............................947
File Delete:..........548%............................561
File Write:..............91%............................316
File read:..............946%............................928
File seek:............1311%..........................1311
DB Export:............481%............................504
DB Import:..........1090%..........................1105
Record Access:.....1005%............................804
Resource access:..1010%............................936

VFSMark:................827...............................823

Conditions: New SD card freshly formated with no other uses or files on it. A good score even with the weirdly low file write score. The results of the second run netted several changes, yet nearly an identical score. :D

Pat

[jconaway99]

Sandisk 512 MB SD card on T3

File Create: 131%
File Delete: 101%
File Write: 77%
File Read: 635%
File Seek: 983%
DB Export: 74%
DB Import: 867%
Record Access: 646%
Resource Access: 640%

VFSMark: 461

I can live with it.
:)

I guess I should have mentioned that my card has 90mb free.

[MarieC]

512 MB SanDisk SD card on T3:

VFSMark Results

File Create: 400%
File Delete: 169%
File Write: 64%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 66%
DB Import: 887%
Record Access: 696%
Resource Access: 817%

VFSMark: 557


My card's about half full.

I can live with that, too :D

[Vidge]

512 MB Panasonic SD card on T3:

VFSMark Results

File Create: 535%
File Delete: 323%
File Write: 148%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 278%
DB Import: 687%
Record Access: 658%
Resource Access: 629%

VFSMark: 564

(Of course, every time I run this, I get different results, even though my card has not changed. I've got 327mb free.)

[tanker_bob]

512MB Panasonic SD card with only 25MB free space, Tungsten|T3:

VFSMark Results

File Create: 454%
File Delete: 290%
File Write: 132%
File Read: 725%
File Seek: 983%
DB Export: 223%
DB Import: 838%
Record Access: 861%
Resource Access: 800%

VFSMark: 589

[scandalex]

Tested Lexar 32x 256MB SD with VFSMark on TT3

1st Run --------------------------- 2nd Run
File Create - 489 %.........................485
File Delete - 298 %..........................303
File Write - 132 %..........................135
File Read - 725 %............................713
File Seek - 983 %............................983
DB Export - 252 %...........................240
DB Import - 847 %...........................847
Record Access - 841 %.....................861
Resource Access - 783 %..................783

VFS Mark - 594.......................VFS Mark 594

[tech.junkie]

i just got a 512MB billionton SD card. its the only option in our area. here are my VFSmark results:


empty:

File Create: 1024%
File Delete: 772%
File Write: 26%
File Read: 725%
File Seek: 907%
DB Export: 87%
DB Import: 763%
Record Access: 738%
Resource Access: 711%

VFSMark: 639


w/ 150MB free:

File Create: 172%
File Delete: 141%
File Write: 28%
File Read: 725%
File Seek: 983%
DB Export: 100%
DB Import: 719%
Record Access: 696%
Resource Access: 685%

VFSMark: 472


i wonder what chip it uses since it shows as Unknown in Card Info.

i noticed that i only have a total of 489.2MB on my supposedly 512MB SD. thats 22.8MB lost! i know that the actual size of SD/MMC cards are really less, & not exact, bec. same scenario hold for my 256MB & 128MB SD's. but ~23MB is a lot, if u think about it. :rolleyes: can those w/ 512MB SD's kindly say how much total space is available on theirs? :)

[Shamrock]

400Mhz 472Mhz 532Mhz
File Create 538% 740% 504%
File Delete 309% 334% 338%
File Write 143% 161% 227%
File Read 736% 859% 946%
File Seek 1180% 1180% 1311%
DB Export 331% 235% 321%
DB Import 897% 1017% 1074%
Record Access 724% 822% 882%
Resource Access 698% 783% 872%
VFS Mark 617 681 719

SanDisk 512m Ultra II, Tungsten T3 with PXAClocker for overclock. 343Mb free. Don't know what the anomoly in File Create means but I thought it would be interesting to see 3 speeds on the same PDA/SD. I don't even know if this is good. I have seen numbers all over the map.

[tanker_bob]

i just got a 512MB billionton SD card.

***SNIP***

i wonder what chip it uses since it shows as Unknown in Card Info.

Judging by your write speeds, I'd guess that it's a Sandisk chip.

[tech.junkie]

tnx tanker_bob. its just weird that it shows as Unknown in Card Info. :rolleyes:

[yud]

Transcend 128 MB, 68% free (83 MB). T3 + patch, no OC, card factory formatted. Test took approx 1 min.

VFSMark Results

File Create: 299%
File Delete: 284%
File Write: 63%
File Read: 760%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 182%
DB Import: 908%
Record Access: 882%
Resource Access: 872%

VFSMark: 591

Similar results with or without ZLauncher running.

Doesn't look similar to many of the posts here...

CardInfo shows:
Unknown
Unknown
Secure Digital Card
DeviceID: Unknown_3001E392000...

Regards,

yud

[greghoro]

SanDisk 256 - average of 2

File Create: 369%
File Delete: 190%
File Write: 56%
File Read: 662%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 65%
DB Import: 893%
Record Access: 652%
Resource Access: 651%

VFSMark: 512


PNY 512 (Toshiba) - average of 3

File Create: 41%
File Delete: 22%
File Write: 11%
File Read: 729%
File Seek: 1311%
DB Export: 24%
DB Import: 1100%
Record Access: 714%
Resource Access: 685%

VFSMark: 515

Pretty bad write access numbers for the PNY.

Greg

[sfringer]

Just to add to the list that this community has provided (and helped me make my decision - or at least kept me from jumping at some of the "offers" I saw on the 'net)

Here are the VFSMark results for my just arrived SimpleTech ProX 256 MB SD Card. The test was performed in my Tungsten T3.

CardInfo lists it as a Panasonic, and I bought it at Buy.com for $48.99.

File Create: 520%
File Delete: 304%
File Write: 146%
File Read: 725%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 282%
DB Import: 877%
Record Access: 861%
Resource Access: 800%

VFSMark: 620

This card is noticably faster than the SanDisk 64MB SD card I was using!

Scott

[yairg1]

Results for SD 256 SanDisk on T3:

File Create: 95%
File Delete: 73%
File Write: 78%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 103%
DB Import: 857%
Record Access: 683%
Resource Access: 662%

VFSMark: 484

[oVeRcLoCKeD]

Are all these scores for the Tungsten | T3 only?? I have a Tungsten | E and I'm wondering if my score of ~250 is because it's a T|E or is my SD Card just shlt?

75
69
13
359
347
51
441
517
468
----
260

I got the Kingmax Platinum card figuring it would be good :(
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/2296.html

[i540ismiley]

Kingston 512mb and T3


VFSMark Results

File Create: 37%
File Delete: 16%
File Write: 10%
File Read: 627%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 18%
DB Import: 990%
Record Access: 822%
Resource Access: 768%

VFSMark: 496

[tanker_bob]

The 512MB Kingston card looks like it's made by Toshiba. It has the same poor write performance.

[stevejohnson460]

The 512MB Kingston card looks like it's made by Toshiba. It has the same poor write performance.

Uh, if someone just HAPPENED to have bought said Kingston card, it wouldn't affect the speed of a hotsync unless the sync involved writing to the card, right? But then (say, in a DTG sync with files on the card), hotsyncs would take forever, right?

I've got an RMA back to the vendor on the card, but they're only offering store credit, and the only other 512mb SD card offered there is a . . . SANDISK! :mad:

[tanker_bob]

Steve,

You are correct that the card would not affect the HotSync speed unless you HotSync something to the card, including installing apps or data to the card, DTG, etc. I also obtained an RMA number, but I still have my 2 256MB PNY cards. I use them to hold my music, since they read fast and I rarely change the songs on them.

From the data I've seen, the Sandisk cards write faster than Toshibas, but not nearly as fast as Panasonics. Numbers here indicate that 512 MB Sandisk cards are at least 5x faster writing than Toshiba chips, maybe a bit faster. Of course, there are the compatability issues with some large-capacity Sandisk cards. I'd probably go for the Sandisk under your circumstances because of the speed difference, but YMMV and it's up to you.

[applejosh]

Is that 512 Sandisk you're reffering to the normal 512 or the Ultra (or Extreme or whatever their flashy marketing department came up with)? My understanding was (and forgive me if I'm completely wrong here since it's early for me and my head is still full of cobwebs) that the normal Sandisk cards still had crappy write performance, but the newer Ultra cards were da bomb.

Josh

[tanker_bob]

The Sandisk XL/Ultra/whatever-hype-is-current SD cards appear to have the performance of ordinary Panasonics. Comparatively, ordinary Sandisks have poorer write performance than Panasonics, but are much better than Toshiba-based cards. Given the limited choices presented in the previous message, I simply opined that based on the performance data available I'd opt for the Sandisk over any Toshiba-based cards. In an unconstrained decision set, I would (and did) opt for Panasonic SD cards both for speed and reliability.

[applejosh]

Thanks for the clarification. I'll be looking to get a higher capacity SD card someday, so I'll definitely keep the Panasonic cards in mind.

[csc]

VFSMark Results

File Create: 742%
File Delete: 400%
File Write: 275%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 359%
DB Import: 965%
Record Access: 822%
Resource Access: 783%

VFSMark: 695

no overclocking, don't know if its good... it's enought for me...

[Aslak]

Palm Tungsten T3
Twin-MOS 512 Mb Ultra-X SD-card
Overclocked to 498 Mhz

VFSMark Results

File Create: 986%
File Delete: 906%
File Write: 48%
File Read: 773%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 141%
DB Import: 897%
Record Access: 1005%
Resource Access: 936%

VFSMark: 751

[jorang]

I took a chance bying myself a Sandisk SD card (ordinary edition)

The first thing I did was to perform a VFSMark on the card. Sandisk cards is no longer as slow as they used to be. I have a 128MB Sandisk SD card which is reeeeeelly slow - much slower than my newly purchased 512.... :)

Here is the VFS Marks on my Sandisk SD 512MB:

File Create: 156%
File Delete: 118%
File Write: 138%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 146%
DB Import: 867%
Record Access: 804%
Resource Access: 783%

VFSMark: 535

This will do for my requirements. Rather buy your self a cardreader for transferring data than spend loads of money on a Lexar....

Just my 2cents....

_____________________________
JoranG

[LoRdB]

SD Sandisk 256Mo :
- File Create : 181%
- File Delete : 110 %
- File Write : 21 %
- File Read : 478 %
- File Seek : 983 %
- DB Export : 153 %
- DB Import : 908 %
- Record Access : 709 %
- Resource Access : 640 %

VFSMark : 464

SD Sandisk Ultra II 256Mo :
- File Create : 764%
- File Delete : 412 %
- File Write : 229 %
- File Read : 736 %
- File Seek : 1180 %
- DB Export : 378 %
- DB Import : 941 %
- Record Access : 841 %
- Resource Access : 834 %

VFSMark : 701

[siliconsoul]

Lexar 512MB High Speed (SMI) with T3

I saw all the great Lexar high speed VFSMarks so i decided to buy one and i got it at a decent price from Buy.com with the 5% off this last weekend.
Well it looks like I got a Crap version of this card. anyone else out there get HORRIBLE write results like mine for a lexar high speed?! most of them ive seen are atleast double the speed im getting!! I thinking about returning it and asking for a Sandisk Ultra II 512MB

here is what card info says

SMI
Unknown
Secure Digital Card
Device Id: SMI_1900FB5B000107

all 4 tests done with a brand new empty card. one after the other.

VFSMark Results

File Create: 1082%
File Delete: 931%
File Write: 53%
File Read: 773%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 148%
DB Import: 930%
Record Access: 952%
Resource Access: 936%

VFSMark: 764

VFSMark Results

File Create: 252%
File Delete: 234%
File Write: 36%
File Read: 773%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 149%
DB Import: 930%
Record Access: 1005%
Resource Access: 936%

VFSMark: 598

VFSMark Results

File Create: 250%
File Delete: 238%
File Write: 50%
File Read: 760%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 151%
DB Import: 930%
Record Access: 978%
Resource Access: 936%

VFSMark: 608

VFSMark Results

File Create: 244%
File Delete: 236%
File Write: 50%
File Read: 773%
File Seek: 1072%
DB Export: 154%
DB Import: 941%
Record Access: 978%
Resource Access: 936%

VFSMark: 598

[IndyDave]

1 gb PQI card from newegg.com

Out of box:

File Create: 1090
File Delete: 906
File Write: 36
File Read: 760
File Seek: 983
DB Export: 149
DB Inport: 740
Record Access: 770
Resource Access: 689

VFSMark: 689

so ran again:

File Create: 1073
File Delete: 871
File Write: 35
File Read: 748
File Seek: 1072
DB Export: 148
DB Import: 733
Record Access: 754
Resource Access: 738

VFSMark 685

So, do I keep or send back? Write speed KILLS me....how long a hot sync for all my updatable drug databases. UGH! Otherwise love the capacity, the access speed, and the price: $100 w/shipping. Hmmmm....

[jjesusfreak01]

Dont get mad, but my TH-55 wanted to be posted too.

File Create: 110%
File Delete: 166%
File Write: 70%
File Read: 504%
File Seek: 295%
DB Export: 81%
DB Import: 321%
Record Access:335%
Resource Access: 358%

VFSMark: 248

Edit: Sandisk MemoryStick Pro 256mb

[MrNako]

Dont get mad, but my TH-55 wanted to be posted too.

File Create: 110%
File Delete: 166%
File Write: 70%
File Read: 504%
File Seek: 295%
DB Export: 81%
DB Import: 321%
Record Access:335%
Resource Access: 358%

VFSMark: 248

Memory's brand, size and type?

[siliconsoul]

im really considering returning my lexar high speed! for the sanddisk ultra II unless someone has had a bad experience with it. the whole reason i decided on the lexar high speed was for the fast write! most of the cards have good to great read!

[siliconsoul]

this is not my site but i found it browing one of the many forums i have been looking through. it has a decent database and im sure if more add to it could be great!

http://heller.ca/cardspeed

also maybe if we email the guy he can add a manufacturer field. so we know what brand and who made the card.

[tanker_bob]

this is not my site but i found it browing one of the many forums i have been looking through. it has a decent database and im sure if more add to it could be great!

http://heller.ca/cardspeed

also maybe if we email the guy he can add a manufacturer field. so we know what brand and who made the card.
Nice site. However, the total VFSMark score doesn't tell the whole story as discussed in my review at PDABuyersGuide (http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/tips/PNY_Panasonic_SD_cards.htm). I discovered that the write score was a much better measure of the user experience than the total VFSMark score. It is easily possible to have a high VFSMark total while having an abysmal write score. FWIW.

[tanker_bob]

VFSMark score for a new (empty) Panasonic 1 GB SD Card tested on a T3:

File Create: 371%
File Delete: 106%
File Write: 148%
File Read: 713%
File Seek: 983%
DB Export: 278%
DB Import: 803%
Record Access: 841%
Resource Access: 752%

VFSMark 555%

Card had 64.0 KB used, 944.6 MB Free.

[IndyDave]

or not. The 1 gb PQI card is actually noticeably faster than my Panasonic 256 in data access functions, which is most of my use. However, the write speed is ghastly during syncing...which I do at least once daily to update databases from the web.

I've decided to keep the card. The blazing access speeds for routine use at work outweighs the write speed hit during nightly hotsyncs. And I'll use Card Export for moving other files and installing new SW.

If the write speed weren't abysmal this card would rock.

[emotive]

Nice site. However, the total VFSMark score doesn't tell the whole story as discussed in my review at PDABuyersGuide (http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/tips/PNY_Panasonic_SD_cards.htm). I discovered that the write score was a much better measure of the user experience than the total VFSMark score. It is easily possible to have a high VFSMark total while having an abysmal write score. FWIW.
I just noticed you can see all results by selecting the "detailed" filter

[Kossi]

Sandisk 1GB on T3 (60% used):

VFSMark Results

File Create: 650%
File Delete: 369%
File Write: 109%
File Read: 682%
File Seek: 983%
DB Export: 225%
DB Import: 794%
Record Access: 770%
Resource Access: 752%

VFSMark: 592

CardSpeed:
Wrt32bit: 178 bytes/sec
Wrt8KB: 150657 bytes/sec
Read8KB: 2383127 bytes/sec

Price: 85€

[Rikster]

Tekq Ultra SD 512mb on T3 (20% available):

VFSMark Results

File Create: 205%
File Delete: 101%
File Write: 55%
File Read: 736%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 121%
DB Import: 755%
Record Access: 593%
Resource Access: 581%

VFSMark: 480

381mb used
96.3 mb free

[tanker_bob]

My new Sandisk Extreme III 1GB card arrived today. Tested on my T3:

968.3 MB of 968.3 MB free:

File Create: 357%
File Delete: 191%
File Write: 206%
File Read: 748%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 184%
DB Import: 829%
Record Access: 683%
Resource Access: 724%

VFSMark: 566
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Retested with 392.8 MB of 968.3 free:

File Create: 310%
File Delete: 167%
File Write: 208%
File Read: 760%
File Seek: 1180%
DB Export: 189%
DB Import: 820%
Record Access: 670%
Resource Access: 711%

VFSMark: 557

CardSpeed version 1.2:
Finished in 1.94 seconds
Wrt32bit: 438 bytes/sec
Wrt8KB: 224054 bytes/sec
Read8KB: 2621440 bytes/sec

It feels as every bit as fast and responsive as my Panasonic 512MB.

[sonypenguin]

Here is my VFS Mark.... I'm loving it.

UX-50 w/ SanDisk 2GB MS Pro (FAT16)
VFSMark Results - used 1.8GB/100MB Free

File Create: 304%
File Delete: 178%
File Write: 75%
File Read: 602%
File Seek: 231%
DB Export: 87%
DB Import: 256%
Record Access: 296%
Resource Access: 274%

VFSMark: 255

UX-50 w/ SanDisk 4GB MS Pro Ultra II (FAT32)
VFSMark Results - used 1.8GB/2GB Free for now.

File Create: 590%
File Delete: 209%
File Write: 129%
File Read: 483%
File Seek: 737%
DB Export: 235%
DB Import: 919%
Record Access: 804%
Resource Access: 800%

VFSMark: 545

[fabarati]

hi, first post. want to see if this is normal
toshiba rebrand (kingston) 512 mb, 93% free, no overclock

File Create: 35%
File Delete: 15%
File Write: 10%
File Read: 748%
File Seek: 1311%
DB Export: 19%
DB Import: 1192%
Record Access: 928%
Resource Access: 893%

VFSMark: 572

i think my reading speeds are way to high....