What screen protector is this?

[Unregistered]

I know this has been done to death, but I've sifted through many previous responses and still haven't found the answer.

I am looking for a screen protector that is, in order of importance:
*completely see through for my color hi-res 665c
*has a finish just like my screen
*easily applied, and attaches to screen (see note below)
*dust proof
*cheap ($10 just seems like a lot to pay for a 3x4" piece of plastic)

*Also - I've read here about transparency film but one thing worries me. If dust gets caught under the film (which seems quite possible), and with the pressure applied from normal use from the stylus, and movement of the film, won't that be just as bad as not having a screen protector at all? Meaning, won't the dust end up scratching it anyway, maybe more so since it will be trapped? Has anyone had positive/negative experience?

[rhart00]

$10 may seem like a lot right now but not when you have to pay $200 for a new screen because it is scratched beyond usability. Definitely worth it. Its not going to break your bank account paying $10.

[hherbzilla]

Originally posted by rhart00
$10 may seem like a lot right now but not when you have to pay $200 for a new screen because it is scratched beyond usability. Definitely worth it. Its not going to break your bank account paying $10. Exactly. My Brando cost about $10, if I recall, and I've been using it for around 5 months now. Protecting the screen is definitely worth the small investment.

As for your question, Brando is not "completely see through". G2 and Lumitector seem to be the most popular alternatives. Also, BoxWave is a new one that looks like it may be good. I bought a G2 for my wife's PDA. It is perfectly clear and wasn't too hard to install. However, it really highlights fingerprints. Plan on cleaning it a lot if you get one.

[Palié]

I've had my T665 for about two month now. I read many "scratchy" stories on screen damage, so I ordered the Brando protector before I got my clie and installed it right after I opened the box. I took it off today to wash it, I was suprised by the fact that the screen looked so much better without the protector, especially the colours are more vivid.

I heard that the Brando ones are not as transparent as G2 or Lumitector. I will try one of those next time.

[BoxWave]

Hi all,

My name is Wing Lum and I'm representing BoxWave here on the boards.

I'd recommend you pick up a screen protection whatever route you go - that's some honest, unbiased advice.

I don't know how many electronic gadgets I've had that had a much too costly LCD get marred by a accident.

Get a screen protector (unbiased :)).

Get ours (biased :)).

Best of luck however you go,

Wing Lum
BoxWave

[rhart00]

Originally posted by BoxWave
Hi all,

My name is Wing Lum and I'm representing BoxWave here on the boards.

I'd recommend you pick up a screen protection whatever route you go - that's some honest, unbiased advice.

I don't know how many electronic gadgets I've had that had a much too costly LCD get marred by a accident.

Get a screen protector (unbiased :)).

Get ours (biased :)).

Best of luck however you go,

Wing Lum
BoxWave


thanks for being honest and telling us you are representing boxwave. Some people try to pretend like they don't represent a company that they actually do and it gets really annoying. They pretend to be a regular user that discovered a miracle product.


Anyways, I am interested in your product. Where can I find more information about them?

Ryan

[chopstxxx]

http://boxwave.com/products/cleartouch/index.cfm

[ClieMD]

Out of the 4 mentioned. Which one do you think is the best? Brando, G2, Boxwave, Lumitector

[rhart00]

it isn't one of your 4 but I vouch for innopocket protectors. I use one on my NX. it is about as clear as a transparency and protects well. also you can get it from the cliesource store. they are very fast about shipping. I ordered a bunch of stuff and recieved it 2 days after I ordered

[slade_300]

come on people just use overhead transparencies, just cut them a little bigger than the screen, and push the under. It work just as well for 10 cents a sheet

[BoxWave]

Slade_300,

I have to recommend against it - even though it's considerably cheaper.

BTW - thanks for the thanks : ).

Okay, back to the transparencies - they show grease as well as extremely high glare.

One of the main reasons why we push our Cleartouch is because it does neither of these (and it's reusable).

I don't know about you all, but I've been known to use my finger to tap real quickly - no grease, no finger print.

Best,

Wing

[ClieMD]

Wing,

Is the Clear Touch like the Brando Screeen where it's not transparent because I'm looking for a screen protector that's going to show off my NZ's display. I like Brando in all, but that milky haze. If the Clear Touch is more like the G2 then I'm sold.

[DanT]

I'm happy with Fellowes WriteRight. When I first installed it, I saw air bubbles trapped between the screen and the clear coat. However, those bubbles disappeared on the next day. Amazing!  It has a clear coat too.

It is a bit expensive ($24 for 12 coats). But I change it once every a couple of months or when it looks wornout. So the package may last me for about 2 years, about $1/month. Still have 4 coats left over after 18 month uses. When I'm out of them, I may try these other brands that you guys are talking about and see how they perform. $10 is cheap. I can use the difference ($14) for buying a cool app.

[BoxWave]

Clie_MD,

Hey : ).

We've received alot of praise about our product because it has so much less of the "milkiness" that Brando exhibits.

Hmmm...the thread is actually on here in the forums.

That's the main reason why alot of people choose our product over Brando's - as well as the fact that if you don't end up liking it, just let me know, we'll refund you.

I also think our product is significantly cheaper in the three pack.

Best wishes,

Wing

[DanT]

Wing Lum, from reading your site I gather than one pack contains only one coat. Based on your experience, how long does this one coat last normally?

[ClieMD]

Wing

Hey :)

Ok you sold me, now is there any vouchers or promotion codes that you can give to help out us fellow Cliesource members. I'll most likely end up buying a 3 pack. Let me know. Plus this could generate a lot more customers.

Thanks again

[BoxWave]

Hi all,

Well, we're not offering any further discounts beyond the 30% off both miniSync and 3-pack Cleartouch is pretty nice considering we were selling alot of units at their formal prices :).

But as always, take care everyone and let me know if you have any more questions.

Best wishes,

Wing Lum
BoxWave

[ClieMD]

Bought a clear touch for my NZ today let you know how it is when I get it in a couple of days. Total cost was $16.50 with shipping

[rrayl]

Wing,
I am interested in the 30% off Cleartouch and minisync combo but cannot find anything referring to this on Boxwave website. It only shows a sale price on minisync by itself. Would the 30% discount be on the discounted minisync price and regular Cleartough price?

[k123]

your site doesn't call out for a sj-33. do you order the sj-30's?

[Wolvy]

Wing, I currently use a Brando screen protector and have found this to be the best so far, as the others were far too flimsy. I really like the idea of the thicker protector and also the ease in which it adheres to the screen and can be removed and cleaned easily.

However, I'm not so keen on the 'milky' screen effect that you get. Is the Boxwave one the same 'type' of protector as Brando but with clearer screen viewing. If so, I would be really tempted to go for a pack of 3.

[BoxWave]

Hey all,

To answer the questions:

I'll put the words of a reviewer on here - he actually reviewed it for you guys here on the boards.

As said by Michael Hyunh, M.D.:

"they also have some anti-glare properties...and are dust-repelling..the two differences from the brando that i like were that they didn't have the "milky" color that everyone states and instead of having a rough "paper" feel when writing on it...the boxwave cleartouch had a more smooth feel....since they "stick" on by static electricity on to the pda they were very easy to apply compared to the nushields or G2 protectors that require a lot of manuevering to place them on..."

And you know, completely honestly - if you don't like the product, just let me know, and of course you can get a refund.

Best wishes,

Wing Lum
BoxWave

[rxmedicine]

hi,

just wanted to let you guys know that quote above was from me... the thread where it was discussed at is linked here

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4147&highlight=boxwave+cleartouch

as i've reviewed on the thread...it really does give you the best of both worlds...the clearness of the G2's but with the durability (due to it being thicker then most normal protectors) and smooth surface...like the brando's it is stuck on the screen by a sort of static electricity and it is washable...i know..b/c i tried it out just to see...and it is thick and easy to apply....took me about 10 to 15 seconds....but the difference it has from the brandos is that instead of the rough "pencil" like surface it has a more smooth, glassy feel...which of course is a matter of taste....but overall you can't go wrong with this protector.....

Also i am saying this b/c i am sooo thoroughly pleased with the product...actually i've contacted wing lum and he has been very responsive to my comments and suggestions....i do not work for the company...just a very satisfied customer that wants to let others know my experience so they don't spend more then they need to on a protector like i had to do...

and you can't beat his offer...he'll refund them if you're not happy...i bought it before knowing about that offer...you have nothing to lose...and alot to gain....

[Wolvy]

Originally posted by BoxWave
Clie_MD,

Hey : ).

We've received alot of praise about our product because it has so much less of the "milkiness" that Brando exhibits.

Hmmm...the thread is actually on here in the forums.

That's the main reason why alot of people choose our product over Brando's - as well as the fact that if you don't end up liking it, just let me know, we'll refund you.

I also think our product is significantly cheaper in the three pack.

Best wishes,

Wing

Hi Wing, I have sent you a copy of this by e-mail ...

It was a post on Brighthands Tungsten T forum. Please let me have your comments please. Thanks

"The verdict is in...
The Boxwave ClearTouch protectors and the Brando protectors are the exact same, identical screen protector. Even the plastic packaging is the same. Obviously, the same company (in China) makes these protectors.

My advice, however, is to order them from Brando. Why? They are $12.00 (shipped) versus $16.45 (shipped) from Boxwave. It takes twice as long to ship them from Hong Kong, but to me five extra days mean nothing. Plus, I have dealt with Brando's customer service in the past and was very pleased. I purchased a screen protector for my old m515 which was scratched when I received it. They sent me a new one with no questions asked and no request to return the scratched one.

So, anyone want to give this kind of screen protector a try? I now have three extra. (I always keep a spare on hand and last time I ordered from Brando I ordered two - for $21.00 shipped)."

[MoKoni]

BoxWave:

I am the one who posted the message above on Brighthand's forum. I have the ClearTouch and Brando protectors in front of me at this very second and they are the exact same protector - there is not a single difference.

I am very interested to hear your thoughts on this...

MoKoni

[BoxWave]

I've answered you on the other forums Mokoni.

You seem to insist on pursuing this (even so far as registering on another board to bring up a question already answered).

You have mentioned that you like the products regardless, and I have, once again, answered your questions.

If you are unable to detect the differences as several other reviewers already have, I apologize for things that are not in my control.

Best wishes,

Wing Lum
BoxWave

[MoKoni]

Originally posted by BoxWave
I've answered you on the other forums Mokoni.

You seem to insist on pursuing this (even so far as registering on another board to bring up a question already answered).

You have mentioned that you like the products regardless, and I have, once again, answered your questions.

If you are unable to detect the differences as several other reviewers already have, I apologize for things that are not in my control.

I was directed to this website by another user at Brighthand and my post below was well before you supposedly "answered my questions" on the Brighthand forum. Maybe you should have checked when the posts were made before you felt the need to attack them.

I do not understand why you felt this response was necessary. If you feel that you did answer all my questions, what more was there to add? It seems to me that you are the one who is pursuing this to a level which is unreasonable. As I said, I really could care less if these two protectors are the same or if they are different. I started with Brando and I am sticking with Brando, especially after this lovely exchange. Thanks.

[BoxWave]

MoKoni,

I feel I've remained extremely respectful of you on both forums.

If you feel otherwise, I apologize - it was not my intention to offend you.

Just to clear things up - you did not wait for me to reply (I replied within 1.5 hours) before you registered and further questioned (the same question) on this forum.

All the same, I'm glad this is over :) if there's anything else I can help with just let me know.

Best wishes once more and best of luck with your handheld,

Wing

[DanT]

Originally posted by MoKoni
BoxWave:

I am the one who posted the message above on Brighthand's forum. I have the ClearTouch and Brando protectors in front of me at this very second and they are the exact same protector - there is not a single difference.

I am very interested to hear your thoughts on this...

MoKoni

Since you have both brands, how about try them alternatively, wash them few times, compare which one gets milky looking or other changes, and give us updates on your finding here later.

[rxmedicine]

I actually have used both the Brandos and the Boxwaves...and from my experience...when you have both of them in hand...they both look like they have the slightly milky appearance...but i don't know about you guys...but i just care how it looks when my pda is on...and that is why you will notice the difference...

granted both of these screen protectors are very similiar...they both are a more durable, thicker plastic...and they both are washable...and stick on by a sort of electrostatic mechanism...

So like Mokoni says...they both are just about the same when holding them both in the air...and looking at them...but after placing each on my pda...you will quickly notice a difference...eveerything being equal...the only big difference is...with the Brandos...you will notice this "milky" appearance...i think that is due to the fact that it is needed for their anti-glare properties....the boxwave on the other hand when placed on the pda and turned on...are much clearer. they don't have this milky appearance...although they still have the anti-glare properties...
but on a side note...the antiglare properties aren't as pronounced as the Brandos...but then...i would rather the tradeoff for a more clear protector


Another big difference...is something that is more dependent on personal taste...the Brandos have a more "paper-like" feel kind of a gritty feel....when you write on it...kind of like when you write on a sheet of paper....whereas the Boxwaves have a more smooth glass-like feel....i personally like this more...and it is a matter of taste...but i like it b/c...it allows me to write a bit faster...and really helps when i play Bejewelled.....but i think indirectly it also helps decrease scratches since theres less friction...even though both the Brandos and Boxwaves are very scratch resistant...

in my opinion...they are both good screen protectors...and if you search the forum...you will see a lot of recommendations for the Brando...(heck i used one for a period of time along with the G2's)...you'll also see a very devout following to the Brandos....but in those previous threads you will also see everyone mention the "milky" appearance even though they love them....there really is no perfect protector...just the perfect one for you....and for me...the Boxwaves give you the quality of the Brandos...but with an added bit of clarity and a smooth surface....

[Wolvy]

Thanks for trying both rxmedicine and giving your comments.
MoKoni ... as stated, why have you not tried to attach both and see the difference yourself?

Just for the record, I received a mail reply from Wing below ...

"I GUARANTEE you that our screen protectors are different.
Everything is nearly the same except our Cleartouch is smoother and clearer.
I tell you this knowing that you probably have tested the Brando.
If you receive our product and find it NOT to your satisfaction?
I will handle the matter personally and make sure you are refunded.

Very best wishes,

Wing Lum
BoxWave"

Anyway ... as rxmedicine has actually tried both on his PDA, compared to MoKoni just holding up and comparing ... I'm going to give Boxwave a try and as Wing has said ... if not completey satisfied I will return. However, if they are as stated ... can't wait to have on my PDA as I love the Brando 'type' but want a clearer screen.

[faloverung]

Dear Boxwave, (Mr. Wing). I got the ClearTouch today. I found that it is shorter than my screen (T665c). Can i get the refund because, I have to remove my old Screen protector (Brando) to put the new one but the new one does not work. I lost the old one too even it washable but no way to dry it without any dust.

thank you.

[BoxWave]

Falover,

Just shoot me an email at wingyew@boxwave.com.

The fit should be perfect <.75 mm width on each side.

We can have you refunded or exchanged.

Best,

Wing Lum
BoxWave

[BoxWave]

By the way,

To answer some of the questions:

1) Why not a Cleartouch / G2 mix (the best of both worlds!?)

:) A great idea but to date, no one has come up with a super translucent screen which doesn't attract enormous glare when under direct lights.

We'll try to work on it though :).

Best!

Wing Lum
BoxWave