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CoolDoctorJ
02-23-2003, 01:14 PM
Ok, I know this topic is getting beat to death, but I can't find anything that works for me.

I'm trying do an adhoc network between my desktop (with a Linksys Wireless USB Netword Adapter (not a router or AP)) and my NX70v. So far all I can get it to do is my desktop (Windows XP) recognizes an adhoc network under "Available Wireless Networks" when I hit "connect" on my Clie, but I can't do anything with it.

Here's what I've got setup on the Clie:
WEP: None
Connect Mode: Adhoc
ch: 1ch
IP Address: Set to my desktop's wired LAN card
SubnetMask: Set to my desktop's wired LAN card
Gateway address: Set to my desktop's wired LAN card
DNS Address: Auto
Powersave Mode: Off

I did some of that stuff suggested for the Hotsync section too, like the "!!" thing, but it didn't help... Or if it did there's still something else wrong.

If you guys notice any glaring errors in what I've done so far please point them out. If you need more info just ask. I'm really eager to get this thing working.

mashoutposse
02-23-2003, 01:21 PM
I believe you have to make sure that ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) is turned on on your PC.

Also, I think the IP address is supposed to be a unique one specifically for the PDA... Try to set it to Auto, as well.

addict
02-23-2003, 02:07 PM
clie_wannabe pulled it off. See this thread (http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4541)

CoolDoctorJ
02-23-2003, 03:45 PM
No, I tried all that. It still doesn't work. If it's any help, I'm not using a router, and as such, when I bridge my connections, I get a funky 10.8.156.53 IP address instead of a nice 192.168.0.100. At this point, enabling or disabling ICS hasn't impacted my success. The unique IP address is of course logical... I still look forward to any useful input.

Thanks.

n2ifp
02-23-2003, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by addict
clie_wannabe pulled it off. See this thread (http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4541)

Right, but I don't think it was with a USB network adapter. One fellow might know, his name is Pelaca, look for his blue and red bald power user avatar.

mashoutposse
02-23-2003, 06:31 PM
Probably a longshot, but have you tried channels 6 and 11?

CoolDoctorJ
02-23-2003, 07:00 PM
Just tried it... still nothing. Thanks though.

n2ifp
02-23-2003, 07:15 PM
Call Linksys and see if they can help you. That's how we found that the 54g wouldn't work with the Clie. For USB connection, there maybe something else you need to do.

Is there an SSID: enabled

You do have to have the HotSync app setup and the double exclaimation points for now as the PC name, IP address, and subnet mask.

Now does USB Local need to be selected or unselected when you right click on the HotSync Icon in the system tray?

I am just trying to give you some ideas as the USB thing is new to me. One thing that sticks in my claw was the inability to access the web from the cradle/cable. Now there is an app that just came out supposedly allowing it to be possible.

reggae
02-23-2003, 07:16 PM
what do you mean by "bridging" connections?

too many networking terms thrown about while not knowing what half of them mean is adding confusion to those that can help you.

auto for dns will not work unless you have dhcp on your network somewhere AND it's configured to hand out the dns address

the ip address of your clie CANNOT be the same as the address of your laptop's nic. it's gotta be an address on the same subnet.

meaning if your subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and your usb nic is set to 10.8.156.53 THEN the address of your clie has to be anything from 10.8.156.1 to 10.8.156.254 EXCLUDING the .53 address

the gateway would then be set to .53

in this given scenario, the assumpiton is that DHCP does NOT exist on your network. you'd have to hard set the dns or there will be no name resolution for browsing websites but you'll still be able to synch. it also means that you're laptop is being used as a router (SLOW).

what you're trying to do is doable, but you're saving what? $150 on an access point on a proper setup? and in the end performance will be pretty weak on an already slow clie browsing experience.

my advise...

get an AP
get a switch (if your router doesn't have extra ports)
configure your router to do internal dhcp
set all your devices to auto config

CoolDoctorJ
02-23-2003, 07:26 PM
Ok... let me just point out a few things... One, it's a desktop, not a laptop. Two, I'm not shelling out $150 for an AP, I'm a college student who just happens to have a wireless USB adapter. I already said I am NOT using a router. The "bridging connections" was outlined in "clie_wannabe"'s post, which I read and tried prior to posting here. I know what it means. I've already taken note of the fact that my desktop and clie can't have the same IP. Does this help?

P.S.: I want to do what I'm trying to do, and since it's apparently possible, please give me information on how to do it, not tell me to spend more money.

Sorry, just kinda feel like I was being attacked there.

Thanks for your help people... keep it coming!

addict
02-23-2003, 07:31 PM
FWIW, I was running into general CLIE/Desktop issues cuz my personal firewall was blocking incoming requests to the PC. If you have one in place (e.g. BlackIce), be sure to configure it to allow incoming connections from the CLIE.

reggae
02-23-2003, 07:31 PM
i told you how to do it in my post BEFORE telling you to spend money to do it right.

just an observation but 6 bills for a clie and another buck and a half on a wifi card seems a little skewed for not getting an AP for your network. theres much more value add on the AP

just my 02. cents

reggae
02-23-2003, 07:36 PM
let me make this compeletely simple for you...

go to the desktop, open a command box (start, run, cmd <hit enter>) and then type in the box "ipconfig /all" <hit enter>

mimick everything under the usb card's information EXCEPT the ip address on your clie (pick the next available number)

configure your hotsync accordingly (use !! and the ipaddress of the USB nic)

this should get you going.

CoolDoctorJ
02-23-2003, 07:48 PM
Ok ok thanks guys... didn't mean to offend anyone there. I'm just not a networking guru or anything, especially when it comes to wireless.

Ok I tried what reggae said and...

My usb wireless adapter doesn't have a DNS listed, or a default gateway... only an IP and subnet mask.

I still can't connect either to the internet or PalmVNC to my desktop... Haven't tried hotsyncing yet.

Thanks for making it completely simple though... that's the kind of thing I wanted in the first place.

Any more suggestions?

Thanks.

reggae
02-23-2003, 07:53 PM
scroll up from the ipconfig and use the dns listed elsewhere...

turn on ICS as someone else mentioned and set the gateway on your clie the same as the ipaddress of the usb nic.