Should I return NZ90 and keep Ipaq pocket pc

[mape245]

My ipaq pc was the perfect solution. I have a Sprint CF card so I was able to get on the internet anytime and it was pretty fast. With the NZ, I can get a sprint lg vision phone, serial cable, and connect to the internet, but I'm afraid of all the page too large errors. Also, the Ipaq has 64mb ram and I can get a 1 gb CF card for $250.

The NZ90 has a beautiful screen, much better than anything. I also have a Sony Giga Pocket PC television recorder, so when I get home, I already have my programs in ms Sony Movie format. I love looking at pictures and the NZ90 is perfect for that. It is also more stable than the Ipaq, which I always have to do soft resets on. I also love the keyboard...with the Ipaq, I have to attach that macro keyboard which is awful. I don't know what to do! Of course, if I return the NZ90, I save some money.

[blueflame]

nah, sell the ipaq, ppc need 64 megs of ram cause the programs are bigger, palm OS rules. plus it does so much more than the ppc

[dks99]

I used to own a Toshiba e740 (build in WiFi)...


after about a month of frustration I gave up and went back to Palm. The thing had even problems turning off (you press the power button to turn it off and nothing happens... - holding the power longer would turn on the backlight)

I once left it unused / fully charged over a weekend and it drained the power completely over 48 hours (without me using it)and lost all the data...

Now resyncing is not as straightforward as on a palm... NO, I had to reinstall most of my apps... I have been using Palm since the Palm Pilot days. I NEVER lost data on it...

should I go on ?

Stick with Palm.

Pocket PCs make lots of promises but fullfill very few of them,
Palm does less but does exactly what they advertise...

To be honest I don't know how many Pro-Pocket PC suggestions you are going to get on this "Palm" forum :)

[watoke]

I think Palm still rulez....
Imagine a simple programs of around 10-20kb, might be 1-2MB for PPC ...so, can imagine huh? :P
That's why the PPC need so much memory... :)

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by blueflame
nah, sell the ipaq, ppc need 64 megs of ram cause the programs are bigger, palm OS rules. plus it does so much more than the ppc

Wow you are very ignorant. Palm does not do anything MORE than what a PPC can do. It obviously does LESS to incorporate the "efficiency" factor and "ease of use" and "simplicity"

[OcellNuri]

Originally posted by Unregistered


Wow you are very ignorant. Palm does not do anything MORE than what a PPC can do. It obviously does LESS to incorporate the "efficiency" factor and "ease of use" and "simplicity"

You have a valid point, and I agree with your opinion. BUT... Why did you have to start with a personal attack against Blueflame? I do not agree with you on that.

[jedix]

I say keep the clie. But then again, I love clie, and you posted this at cliesource. So what kind of answer were you expecting?

[dimensiondvdrob]

I say, keep your CLIE. I did the same thing you did. I was at Fry's and saw the HP iPAQ 1910 and thought wow, what a size difference! I immediately bought it and then wanted more, so I bought the HP 5455 with BT and WiFi built in. Well after CES and playing around with pocket pc and comparing to Palm, I decided to stick with Palm. I mean, it's so much easier and intuitive, has WAY more software and companies supporting it and overall, works better. The only thing (and I mean the only thing) I like about pocket pc is ActiveSync. Other than that, PPC sux and PALM is definitely the way to go. For me at least. I think Palm is and will continue to be the best handheld OS out there.

Just my $0.02

[dimensiondvdrob]

oh, one more thing...for looking at pictures, the CLIE NZ rocks over ANY PPC, including the new HP 5455.

[mashoutposse]

I think you're going to miss the camera. Also, why don't you get a BT phone?

[starstreak]

I had a HP5455. good unit. its up to you. I have a nx90 now. only thing I hate is it drains batteries like nothing. Camera is ok, but not the best. bad in low light. even with flash.

[starstreak]

btw, pocket pc like the HP5455 can do alot of things better than my nx90.
1) battery drain is just a bit better
2) my notes can be longer. (already had to edit my notes to fit it on the palm.
3) It doesn't copy all my outlook address information. I wish when palm updated its OS's they would at least allow to OS to save all my addresses properly from outlook.
4) IR remote controls other devices besides sony. The hp5455 will memorize other remotes and work with other devices.
5) screen is better, but not as high resolution as the nx90

[jedix]

Originally posted by dimensiondvdrob
oh, one more thing...for looking at pictures, the CLIE NZ rocks over ANY PPC, including the new HP 5455.

..for taking pictures, too!

[Marudine]

mape245, I agreed with dks99 and jedix ... what answer do you expect in Cliesource (i.e. OS Palm website) ?? That's my first impression when seeing the title.

To me, you are uncertain at times and you just want to feel good for the people here to tell/convince you that nz90 is better than ipaq. Before you post this thread, you already got an answer .. that's nz90.

[OcellNuri]

Originally posted by starstreak

4) IR remote controls other devices besides sony. The hp5455 will memorize other remotes and work with other devices.


Wow.. I didn't realize HP was putting IR Remote Control software on thier units from the factory now. That's cool. Last time I was looking for IR Remote software for PPC it all cost money. I'm glad to see HP is putting it on the new units for free.


One note though... My NX can control MUCH more than only Sony products. The ClieRMC software has a database of dozens of brands of electronics. I can walk into almost any living room and be controling a whole entertainment system in a few seconds. The only brand I have run into that the database is missing is Zenith. I do wish ClieRMC would learn codes as well, but if I really need that feature I can pay for Omniremote. The best part, is ClieRMC and the definition databases come in the Clie ROM with the unit. No extra money buying software to do this.

[starstreak]

PLease tell me how! All I want it to do is control my cable box.

btw, this IR feature is on the HP 5455 unit. not all units have it.

[OcellNuri]

Go into Clie RMC, then bring down the menu and choose "Details". Now you can choose Category (TV, VCR...) and below that is the brand. The Test button sends the Power On/Power Off signal out, so you can make sure you have the right mode. Many brands have different modes, but the first mode usually works great for me.

[starstreak]

but nothing for cable box.:(

Sony has only vcr/tv/dvd/amp

nothing for cable box.

[OcellNuri]

Check your Clie Installation CD. There may be other definition files on there. I know that on my T615 the databases were not in ROM, but were on the CD.

[OcellNuri]

Ohh. I'm sorry. I thought you were saying all you could control was your cable box. I'm not reading right tonight.. it's almost 2am. You are right, the databases do not have codes for cable boxes. But if you play with different codes you might find one that works. I know you can control the DVD player on an Xbox with one of the RCA codes.

[Manical]

I just hope mape posted on a PPC forum and got their views also. You;re going to get "Keep NZ" responses here and
"Keep PPC" in the PPC forum. Just read all answers and decide for yourself.

My vote is keep the NZ. I;ve used both forums and I detest using the PPC. Active sync was a pain... and it took forever to use ANY programs in the PPC. The PPC felt like windows, I had to wade through menus and stuff to get the program to do what I thought it would do for me. All palm programs take a few minutes for me to figure out their functions. Plus, you'll miss the camera function. As usual you get a fully PRO Clie answer, but what do you expect? I just ask you to ignore unregistered guest that post useless responses. (another reason I hate PPC, their proponents are unbearable.)

[starstreak]

manical- I had zero problem with active sync. and all my programs worrked on with my ipaqs/hp5455 units I've owned. Its slow compaired to my clie(first time palm usere here.) unless you consider the camera app then that takes forever.

I can go either way.. but I would be more pro clie if battery lasted longer.

Oh and one more thing. I can't stand how my addresses from outlook doesn't transfer completely like it did on the pocketpcs.

[NewtUser]

Can we say this analogy? Using Palm is like Using the Mac OS and using PPC is like running Windows....

I miss the Newton OS....(sigh)

[sephiroth]

Which one are you referring to? NX70 or NZ90?


Originally posted by starstreak
btw, pocket pc like the HP5455 can do alot of things better than my nx90.
1) battery drain is just a bit better
2) my notes can be longer. (already had to edit my notes to fit it on the palm.
3) It doesn't copy all my outlook address information. I wish when palm updated its OS's they would at least allow to OS to save all my addresses properly from outlook.
4) IR remote controls other devices besides sony. The hp5455 will memorize other remotes and work with other devices.
5) screen is better, but not as high resolution as the nx90 :confused:

[sindu]

It's always a tough question...I had always been a Palm guy and got a chance to play with PPC and never like it. Would you miss the 2mb quality camera and the simplicity of the OS, not to mention its efficiency and stability. Further to that, the screen is so fantastic and the sound is dazzling. Tons of softwares and accesories hardwares. Sony quality, fitness, and continous improvement. The last but not the least, you save the kitten.

Why they can't built PC (with window OS) like Palm ??? Do I need 2 Gigahertz, 256k ram, and 40G hardisk to just do things that I can do with my palm ?? We are not running a NASA rocket program, do we..it would save the world if our PC is much more simpler..no resources is wasted !!!

[starstreak]

sephiroth

NZ90

[joebok]

I have both an iPAQ 5455 and my new NZ90. Got them for the express purpose of comparison, the units and the OSs.

The main difference can be summarized by the front cover of the Clie: It's a Personal *Entertainment* Manager. The iPAQ is, for me, more of a Personal *Information* Manager.

For work, the iPAQ rules- no question. Out of the box I can read and edit Word & Excel files. It connects to the network just like any other pc- I can browse to servers, upload and download files (wired or wireless, from home or office), sync, etc. The mail app is fantastic- I have lots of email accounts and it can handle them all- from Notes (3rd party conduit for Notes mail) to Outlook to several POP accounts.

On the NZ90 (or any palm), I can get DesktopToGo and do my word and excel. But getting files back and forth is totally hotsync driven (at least as far as I know of). The Sony does a great job with multi-media. The screen is fantastic, I can't believe how small I can get readable fonts.

Both units suck power like there is no tomorrow. (I still have my Palm III whose battery life is measured in weeks if not months!) One major frustration I have with the Sony right now is that to charge it I need the freaking cradle and AC adapter. The iPAQ can charge through USB and comes with a do-hicky so I can use other chargers (like the iSUN).

The iPAQ stylus storage is also much better. Sony's is cleverer, but the iPAQ is much more secure and besides, they give you two to start out with.

If I could only have one I'd probably go with the iPAQ because of it's networking abilities. It is much closer to being a laptop replacement than the Clie.

Joe

[cheyo84]

i agree with joebok,
I think you work for Microsoft :)

(I live in Seattle also)

[MikeD]

Does the nZ90 do TIVO?? As far as remote controls go?

Originally posted by OcellNuri


Wow.. I didn't realize HP was putting IR Remote Control software on thier units from the factory now. That's cool. Last time I was looking for IR Remote software for PPC it all cost money. I'm glad to see HP is putting it on the new units for free.


One note though... My NX can control MUCH more than only Sony products. The ClieRMC software has a database of dozens of brands of electronics. I can walk into almost any living room and be controling a whole entertainment system in a few seconds. The only brand I have run into that the database is missing is Zenith. I do wish ClieRMC would learn codes as well, but if I really need that feature I can pay for Omniremote. The best part, is ClieRMC and the definition databases come in the Clie ROM with the unit. No extra money buying software to do this.

[starstreak]

N, nada nothing but vcr/dvd/tv/amp Not even cable boxes which sucks big time for me.

[joebok]

Originally posted by cheyo84
i agree with joebok,
I think you work for Microsoft :)

(I live in Seattle also)

No, I've had Palm OS devices since the PalmPilot Pro. It's a much better, more stable OS. I have to reset (reboot) the iPAQ all the time, only rarely with Palm. Also, the iPAQ has a 400mHz processor, the Clie has a 200mHz. By far and away the Clie is zippier and faster.

For me, the Palm downfall is connectivity. Hotsync isn't enough!

[(oyo)]

I would get Sony VAIO® C1MW PictureBook instead... ;^)

[kwajkat]

Keep the IPAQ and the CLie!! I have both an IPAQ 3955 and the NZ90 and don't plan on getting rid of either one. Each has it's own little niche that I use them for and I love both of them. There are some programs I like on the IPAQ that are not available for or I don't like as well for the Palm. Anyway that is my justification and I am sticking to it!!!!!!!!!

[Unregistered]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by OcellNuri
[B]

Wow.. I didn't realize HP was putting IR Remote Control software on thier units from the factory now. That's cool. Last time I was looking for IR Remote software for PPC it all cost money. I'm glad to see HP is putting it on the new units for free.


One note though... My NX can control MUCH more than only Sony products. The ClieRMC software has a database of dozens of brands of electronics. I can walk into almost any living room and be controling a whole entertainment system in a few seconds. The only brand I have run into that the database is missing is Zenith. I do wish ClieRMC would learn codes as well, but if I really need that feature I can pay for Omniremote. The best part, is ClieRMC and the definition databases come in the Clie ROM with the unit. No extra money buying

CLIE RMC may support dozens of brands, but only 4!!!! pieces of equipement!!! This is really pathetic since HP supports at least 10 peaces of equipement (I didn't check any further) including the lights & has the ability to learn codes.