Reasons why I'm thinking about returning my NZ90

[bbywu]

Firstly, it is important to know that I upgraded from the NX...so I already had a 200MHz processor, OS5, and WiFi compatibility. So I can understand if others upgraded from previous Clie's or Palms, some of the features offered by the NZ seem new and refreshing...

1. It really is bulkier.

While my coat can easily fit the NZ, I just find the NZ fairly larger than the NX.

2. Battery life.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I have had a terrible time keeping my NZ going for an entire day...Same number of hours used on my NX, and I could go for at least 2 days. Granted, I do use the new camera with flash a little, but it seems significantly depleted in battery life.

3. Build quality

For $800, I'm a little disappointed at the poor cradle design, poor trapdoor for the interface. Although, I must admit, the tablet mechanism seems smoother than my NX, I'm just a little disappointed for poor design layout of the NZ.


Just my opinion...anyone else want to share?

[jmg_NX21]

Have you DRAINED the battery completely as others have? That may help the battery situation.

Have not had an NZ in my hands yet... time will tell...

TOo bad about your opinion on the BUILD quality =/

[zx7rgirl]

This battery situation sounds deterring. Can you please post if your battery works better after you have drained it.

I am tempted to keep mx nx70 and buy a BT mem stick for it...

[davy19]

battery wroks great if you look at the other threads...my adivce darin battery compltely and let it chrage for at least 12 hours and you should be fine

[Jeffry]

Another reason to return the NZ: only 16MB of memory!!!

[davy19]

Originally posted by Jeffry
Another reason to return the NZ: only 16MB of memory!!!


well one should know that before buying...it ias davertised as 16 mb, but i do wish there was more memory but i can live with it, use to it from the nx

[markga]

drained my battery playing audio files until it shut down, recharging now

[TritonB7]

Originally posted by markga
drained my battery playing audio files until it shut down, recharging now

Tell me if you notice any differences

[TritonB7]

Originally posted by davy19



well one should know that before buying...it ias davertised as 16 mb, but i do wish there was more memory but i can live with it, use to it from the nx

Load apps off your memory card. Thats what I'm doing. I have 9.3mb left on my memory and 44mb left on my memory card. I just load them by using shortcuts to the memory card.

[BKWEIN]

if all you are doing is *****ing about the NZ-90, then why did you buy it? Every unit I've ever bought has a few issues, but you tell me when they produce the perfect pda, and I'll buy it. If you can do any better, then build one yourself. Otherwise if you don't like it then you shouldn't have bought it in the first place!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[markga]

we're not *****ing, we're discussing, that's why it's called a "forum"

[Shrink]

Originally posted by BKWEIN
if all you are doing is *****ing about the NZ-90, then why did you buy it? Every unit I've ever bought has a few issues, but you tell me when they produce the perfect pda, and I'll buy it. If you can do any better, then build one yourself. Otherwise if you don't like it then you shouldn't have bought it in the first place!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Why are you getting so twisted? All we're doing is discussing some issues. If you don't like it, don't contribute, but it makes no sense to get nasty.
alan:confused:

[BKWEIN]

I take my words back. Seems like all people want to do is critisize the nz-90, and not appreciate it as compared to what we used to have. If I offended you I apologize

[Shrink]

[ If I offended you I apologize [/B][/QUOTE]
Hey, no sweat. I made a mistake once also; I thought I was wrong but I wasn't.
alan;)

[jedix]

I think you made a mistake in trying to quote BKWEIN....just letting you know. I thought that it was funny becuase of what you said.

[pstoppani]

Originally posted by BKWEIN
I take my words back. Seems like all people want to do is critisize the nz-90, and not appreciate it as compared to what we used to have. If I offended you I apologize

yep, human nature is to point out the flaws of just about anything; we're a critical breed ;)

Regarding the original posters reasons for returning it, well, yes is is bigger than the NX, but we all knew that before we bought.

If anyone thought it would run a long time on batteries when using the flash then they were kidding themselves; why do y'all think Sony offers a spare battery?! Need a bigger hint than that?

Frankly, I don't understand the complaints regarding the cradle and docking port door; they seem just fine to me.

Given all the stuff packed into this thing, I'm delighted with it. It is a gadgeteer's dream. If you just want a PDA, get a Zire :D The NR/NX/NZ are not PDA's, they just happen to have a PDA as a function. It outshines every other PDA/gadget on the planet by miles.

Yes, the next one will be much better; my main hope is they get the camera to start up in a couple of seconds and fix the Viewer to be usable. Oh heck, builtin WIFI would be nice so they can get rid of the CF slot so I don't have to listen to anymore *****ing about CF memory drivers; there, that should stir up some fine conversation, hee hee.

Happy NZ owner :) :) :)

[LITTLESIX]

Originally posted by bbywu
Firstly, it is important to know that I upgraded from the NX...so I already had a 200MHz processor, OS5, and WiFi compatibility. So I can understand if others upgraded from previous Clie's or Palms, some of the features offered by the NZ seem new and refreshing...

1. It really is bulkier.

While my coat can easily fit the NZ, I just find the NZ fairly larger than the NX.

2. Battery life.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I have had a terrible time keeping my NZ going for an entire day...Same number of hours used on my NX, and I could go for at least 2 days. Granted, I do use the new camera with flash a little, but it seems significantly depleted in battery life.

3. Build quality

For $800, I'm a little disappointed at the poor cradle design, poor trapdoor for the interface. Although, I must admit, the tablet mechanism seems smoother than my NX, I'm just a little disappointed for poor design layout of the NZ.


Just my opinion...anyone else want to share?

The big question that jumped out here for me is: How long you had the NZ? If you're thinking of dumping it after 1,2,3 days I think you're making a mistake.

Battery life: There are currently 96,000 threads on battery life, so I'll save you some reading. Drain the battery til it's freaking dead as a door nail, then let it charge uninterrupted as long as possible (overnight or longer). Guarantee you'll notice a difference.

Somebody's stupid comment of "it's only got 16MB of memory: Ignore them. So did your NX, and if you scan through the NZ forum, you'll see that they never had anything objective to say about the NZ.

Build quality: Non issue for me, so I can't comment on it being an issue for me. Somebody else can tackle that one.

[Unregistered]

Sometimes it is impossible to tell if you are going to really enjoy something until you get it out of the store and use it. That is why it is always a good idea to know the return policy no matter what you are purchasing.

Obviously the thread starter is unsure or he wouldn't have brought it up here for discussion.

[Unregistered]

I wonder if you defend the honor of your friends and family as much as you do your precious machines.

[pstoppani]

Originally posted by Unregistered
I wonder if you defend the honor of your friends and family as much as you do your precious machines.

Danger danger, a troll is among us :rolleyes:

[LITTLESIX]

Not even worth responding to pstoppani. If they're too much of a coward to put their name on their post, they're not worth the time.

[mashoutposse]

Originally posted by Unregistered
I wonder if you defend the honor of your friends and family as much as you do your precious machines.

Make a forum called "Mashoutposse's Friends and Family" and we'll see. For now, since we're in the NZ90 Forum of Cliesource.com, I think I'll continue to discuss the NZ90.

[nike33]

Unregistered Wrote:

"I wonder if you defend the honor of your friends and family as much as you do your precious machines"


Unregistered Sir or Madam

Please do not make the mistake of misunderstanding the purpose of this forum. This is simply a place where people with a common interest chat. To most here, this is in lieu of watching the tube, or a pastime to relax at the end of the day.

I would guarantee you, that in a hypothetical situation if you attempted to menace these fine folks family or friends, they, without hesitation, use their NX or better yet their NZ, as a missile with sincere intent of bonking you on the head!

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by nike33
Unregistered Wrote:

"I wonder if you defend the honor of your friends and family as much as you do your precious machines"


Please do not make the mistake of misunderstanding the purpose of this forum. This is simply a place where people with a common interest chat. To most here, this is in lieu of watching the tube, or a pastime to relax at the end of the day.

I would guarantee you, that in a hypothetical situation if you attempted to menace these fine folks family or friends, they, without hesitation, use their NX or better yet their NZ, as a missile with sincere intent of bonking you on the head!

Man, I am not going to mess with you:D!

[starstreak]

Maybe its just me and its ok with me, but this camera has been added with no thought of battery life. You can't use the camera once youre down to 35%, which means if youre anywhere close to 50% on your battery you'll drain it to below 35% with flash in a few shots and then no can use for a while. So its good for a quick shot of something but thats about it.

I tried this:
right now, I did a full drain to 0% and recharged it (7 hours+). And after taking like 2 shots with flash, 2 no flash (at different times) and abobut 30min of use(not straight use), 50% brightness, and BT on. I'm at 75% power after little over 6 hours.
Is that good times?
Maybe I need to drain to 0% a few times?

[GoGo]

I don't agree with your point. First of all, if you never use NZ90 before, you will not know the performance for sure. You can hate it after buying it. BUT at least you can see its "SIZE and LOOK" BEFORE you bought it.

So, if you really hate its size then why did you buy it? Now you bought it and told us you think the size is too big? Then I think that's not Sony's problem. That should be your problem.

Second, same number uses of hours didn't mean that you can get the same battery life of both machines. And the power requirement is totally different for a machine with great 2MP camera w/flash and greater screen than the old one. For me, after doing the discharge and recharge procedure, I got almost the same battery life with my NX70V even I took around 20-30 pictures (with or without flash) per day. Like this morning, I took around 25 pictures (half of them took with flash) at 100% battery level, but I still get 92% battery level after then. Then I do some regular uses like install software, hotsync, play games, watch ebooks for like 4-5 hours. Now I still get 50% battery level on my machine. For a regular office day, few people can play with their PDA for that long (4-5 hours) and I believe my NZ90 can be last for 2 days within weekday for sure.

Third, about the build quality, you can say you don't like the design or say it is so fat and ugly. But for Sony PDA, I won't say its quality is "bad" :) At least, I love my NZ90 and I think the quality is the best for all PDAs I ever saw.

[lenrodman]

i keep wanting the new os5 clies with bt, better camera etc
i'm waiting for two/three things though - buttons on the screen half, better battery life/better visibility with backlight off, game controller buttons/extra buttons (another 5-10 apps) on the shell half/bigger keyboard with traditional key mappings (none of that cr@p with alt-presses for numbers - there's plenty of room for a numbers row.)

[lenrodman]

i keep wanting the new os5 clies with bt, better camera etc
i'm waiting for three things though
-better battery life/better visibility with backlight off
-buttons on the screen half, game controller-style buttons/extra buttons (another 5-10 apps) on the shell half, bigger keyboard with traditional key mappings (none of that cr@p with alt-presses for numbers - there's plenty of room for a numbers row.)
-at least 64mb internal memory

I already sunk $550 on my nr70v, and i'm happy with it, but b4 I go sink $800 I better at least get 64 f**kin mb! PPC is beginning to win over clies, they are just stuck on this stupid profit margin cr@p with their MS'es. It would be one thing if the MS were blazing fast like the internal, and if it didn't drain battery, but as is such, they need to give up on trying to make an extra $50 on MS - they won't be getting that first $800 from me until they do so. I encourage everyone else who already has a clie to wait and do the same - boycott Sony!!!

[LITTLESIX]

Originally posted by nike33
Unregistered Wrote:

"I wonder if you defend the honor of your friends and family as much as you do your precious machines"


Unregistered Sir or Madam

Please do not make the mistake of misunderstanding the purpose of this forum. This is simply a place where people with a common interest chat. To most here, this is in lieu of watching the tube, or a pastime to relax at the end of the day.

I would guarantee you, that in a hypothetical situation if you attempted to menace these fine folks family or friends, they, without hesitation, use their NX or better yet their NZ, as a missile with sincere intent of bonking you on the head!

ROFL

Not that I'd ever expect it to happen. In person you can't show up "unregistered". :D

[rob_squared]

So true. I don't care what other features a new clie has, I'm not getting another until I see 2^6 MB of storage.

[starstreak]

I have no idea how youre gettin only 50%. Bluetooth takes out about 20mins worth running, I have backlight at 50% (what good is having the other 50% if it'll drain the battery so much quicker), and I take 5 shots. Use address and etc on the unit while at work for the 8 hours (only about 30-45minutes max use of the unit) and I go home with like 35% battery life.

Originally posted by GoGo
Second, same number uses of hours didn't mean that you can get the same battery life of both machines. And the power requirement is totally different for a machine with great 2MP camera w/flash and greater screen than the old one. For me, after doing the discharge and recharge procedure, I got almost the same battery life with my NX70V even I took around 20-30 pictures (with or without flash) per day. Like this morning, I took around 25 pictures (half of them took with flash) at 100% battery level, but I still get 92% battery level after then. Then I do some regular uses like install software, hotsync, play games, watch ebooks for like 4-5 hours. Now I still get 50% battery level on my machine. For a regular office day, few people can play with their PDA for that long (4-5 hours) and I believe my NZ90 can be last for 2 days within weekday for sure.