This cradle is going to kill my NZ90

[davy19]

When I went to put it on the cradle...I accidentally slipped, and my NZ90 fell luckily not too far just on the desk but desk is kind of hard, made a nice loud noice....luckily nothng happened, but with this cradle it is going to take too many falls...


What in the world was sony thinking? LOL

[LITTLESIX]

I'm too much of a klutz; I have to use the two handed method. Haven't had the time to look into the whole charger-cable thing. I know nothing about it other than it exists.

[davy19]

Dont do the cable charger thing...there is a few threads, but sony says it is not compatible, and you can burn out the unit...I will see if I can find the threads.

[jedix]

Originally posted by davy19
Dont do the cable charger thing...there is a few threads, but sony says it is not compatible, and you can burn out the unit...I will see if I can find the threads.

Oh, didn't know this! Thanks for the heads up!

[LITTLESIX]

Ditto - me neither.

I thought for some reason that it's listed as an accessory for the NZ? Am I wrong?

[davy19]

Here is one thread..read it to the bottom, there is a link that shows where sony says the cable and charge can only be used with the cradle, and I called sony myself:

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4269


and this thread as well:

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4318

[Mr. Thompson]

I fail to see where the problem is. The NX series devices and the NZ cradle are rated at 5.2 volts, 2000 mA. They only use three pins for the charging circuit. By limiting our charging options, I think Sony may be just trying to sell spare batteries. It's the memory stick verses CF memory issue all over again.

[markga]

LITTLESIX, I'm a two-hander also, major klutz here, I pick up the cradle to meet the NZ where I can see the contact, don't want to risk screwing up and creating an $800 doorstop

[ralchizar]

You all probibly know, but to be redundant; sony actualy recomends picking up the cradle to dock the NZ, and this is not all that bad because the cradle is rather light. But that does not mean that I like it at all. It is soo much better to have a real cradle that you can just set the PDA in without any worries.

[Mr. Thompson]

I'm used to surfing the Net with a BC10 plugged into my NX. Doing this plugged into a wall with the NZ's cradle is a major PITA...

[davy19]

Originally posted by Mr. Thompson
I fail to see where the problem is. The NX series devices and the NZ cradle are rated at 5.2 volts, 2000 mA. They only use three pins for the charging circuit. By limiting our charging options, I think Sony may be just trying to sell spare batteries. It's the memory stick verses CF memory issue all over again.


maybe but who wants to take a chance on a $800 unit

[ArK]

well for me its simple. I've actually become proficient in puting the nz in the cradle but I still don't like it. I have ordered the charger from sony along with the belkin bt dongle. That should take care of everything. I'll keep the cradle next to the tv if I want to view pictures but thats about it.

[AdB3]

5.2 volts, 2000 mA

The USB Sync & charge cables won't work because a 'high power' USB hub (or host) only produces 500 mA... Right, or will it charge slowly? (info from the USB 2.0 specs, section 7.2.3)

[CeasarMA]

I love the cradle myself.  I've had it for almost three days and I am used to it. Besides now I can use it both for home and travel.  Talking about bricks, the NX cradle weighed almost as much as my NX.  I couldn't take it with me for longer trips.  It's great to have something I can take with me, have it fit in my bag or portfolio and not feel compelled to have more junk to keep track of (cables, dongles, adapters, cords, lines, etc., etc.

As far as flimsy,  what are people doing with this thing??  It sits next to my laptop, I put it in and take it out etc with my left hand with no problem and I am right handed.  It hasn't slipped of my desk, scratched my NZ or spontaneously combusted.

Oh well, to each his/her own.

ceasar

[pdagal]

With all current Clie models I can think of, Sony has included the little dongle adapter so we could plug directly into cables. I don't think they elected to not do so with their flagship model just to trick us. If they did, that's pretty sad.

I suspect that pinouts (maybe) and voltage/resistors (probably) may have changed (haven't looked at the developer specs yet) to accomodate the new data functionality (video and audio out for TV and USB printing) and intelligent charging circuitry on the smart battery.

Originally posted by Mr. Thompson
I fail to see where the problem is. The NX series devices and the NZ cradle are rated at 5.2 volts, 2000 mA. They only use three pins for the charging circuit. By limiting our charging options, I think Sony may be just trying to sell spare batteries. It's the memory stick verses CF memory issue all over again.

[Jun]

This thread's subject was exactly in my mind when I first saw the NZ90 in Circuit City here. What a HUMP! I am not comfortable seeing NZ90 hanging on the cradle.

[Mr. Thompson]

Originally posted by pdagal
With all current Clie models I can think of, Sony has included the little dongle adapter so we could plug directly into cables. I don't think they elected to not do so with their flagship model just to trick us. If they did, that's pretty sad.

I suspect that pinouts (maybe) and voltage/resistors (probably) may have changed (haven't looked at the developer specs yet) to accomodate the new data functionality (video and audio out for TV and USB printing) and intelligent charging circuitry on the smart battery.



Hey look at the memory stick/CF slot fiasco. Having dealt with Sony for 35 years, I would not put it passed them.

The pinouts are the same. I checked them with a VOM. Looking at the circuit board inside the NZ cradle, it's hard to tell if anything would apply to the charging circuit. Given the amount of space inside a NZ, and the fact that Palm, Handera, HP etc.; not to mention Sony, have always included charge control circuitry inside the device, I find it hard to believe there has been a change in convention.

My guess is Sony wants to sell more batteries and cradles.

If anything, they are worried about having to replace the plastic door for the Sync connector as the DC power dongles stretch it quite a bit.

Granted this is my opinion. The cautious may want to play it safe until, if ever, we get a strait answer from Sony.

[oneeyesquare]

Well, Sony ought to explain it much better than a simple "Don't". If it will burn up the battery cuz it's cradle dependant for charging, just say that!!!! Otherwise, I'm highly suspicious... I've got a $50 DC powered GPS cable I fully intend to use, the NZ's warrantied.....